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.————— I CARMARTHENSHIRE QUARTER SESSIONS. I The trial of prisoners at these sessions commenced on Friday last, before J. Johnes, Esq. (chairman), Lord Dynevor, D. Pugb, Esq., MP., J. W. Pliilipps, Esq, Capt. David Davies, Rev. Chancellor Williams, G. W. M. G. Hughes, Esq., and the Rev. H. J. Davis. The Grand J ury compried Mr Builand, CMynmawr Mr James, Rotten Pill; Mr B. Jones, Penlan Air Wylde, Danylan;. Mr Lloyd, Penjbank; Mr Thomas, Dery- givabon; Mr Williams, Glandwr; Mr Garret, Big House; Mr Davies, Lord's Park Mr Muscott, Laugharna Mr Wil- liams, Penlan Mr Williams, Grove Mr Kiohards, Pentre- howell; Mr Bowen, Cilgadan; Mr Jones, Towy Castle; Mr Thomas, Glanrhynis; Mr Rees, Bryneoch Mr Stephens, Cilfaithy, and Mr Phillips, Pontyberem. The learned Chairman, in charging the Grand Jury, said that on nearly every occasion in which he had had the pleasure of addressing the grand jury of the oounty, he had been able to congratulate them on the scarcity of crime, considering the extent of the county and the number of its inhabitants but he could not do so on this occasion, for there viere no less than nine prisoners for trial, Before he alluded any further to the calendar he would call the attention of the jury to several Acts of Parliament which had pissed during the last session. [The learned Chair- man then referred to the provisions of the Acts relating to the Malt Duty, the Union Assessment, and Penal Servitude, in pretty nearly the same terms as he used in charging the Grand Jury for the Borough, a report of which appeared in the WELSHMAN last %veek.] He then said that of the oases which would come under their notice there was only one that required any observations from him. [Just as the learned Chairman was explaining the law in this case, Mr Jeffries came into court and stated thst the prosecution had been withdrawn. The charge, in that case, was against John Treharne, for having forcibly entered, on the 3rd of August and several times subse- quently, certain lands and houses at Llanelly, of which the Misses Elizabeth and Mary Williams were possessed for a terms of years, and kept them from the possession of the property.] Griffith Jones, shopkeeper, aged 57. surrendered to take his trial on a charge of embezzling several sums of money, which were set forth in the indictment, the property of his master, Mr James Buckley, Llinelly. Mr LusceHe?. and Mr Wilsorwsonducted the prosecution instructed by Messrs Tail and nson, LUnelly. Mr Oliver Powell, defended the prisoner, instructed by Mr J. P. Lewis Llandilo. From the opening statement by Mr Lascelles, it appeare d that in April 1859, the prisoner was engaged by Mr Bythe- way, Mr Buckley's managing clerk, tb take cbterge of certain stores fur the sale of flour, malt, & bear, at Cross Inn. The engagement was in writing, and dffned by the prisoner. Amongst other things, he was to supply Mr Buckley's cus- tomers with goods, as they were required, and receive pay- ment for them from time to time. Every Friday he was to forward to Llanelly all the money he had received during the week with the cash book on which the various items were entered. The charge against the prisoner was that he had been paid various sums which he had not accounted for. By the Act under which the prisoner was charged, no more than three separate account, could be laid in one indictment. And he now stood charged with having fraudulently re- ceived from David Thomas Lio 15s and £4 5s, and from James Rees zC9 13s 6d. Mr Bvtheway examined I live at Llanelly, and am Mr Buckley's managing clerk. In 1859 I had an interview with the prisoner. Being instructed by Mr Buckley, I hired him at zCl a week. at Mr P )well requested, if the agreement wa in writin g that it should be produced. The agreement, in the ordinary form of such documents, was put in and read. Examination resumed—The agreement was entered into on the 16th of April, 18-59. The prisoner was to act as Mr Buckley's agent at Cross Inn and its immediate neighbour- hood, for which he was to be paid XI a week. If he in- creased the trade his wages were to be increased. I gave him the names of Mr Buckley's customers in that district npon whom he was to call for orders and to reoeive cash. He was to act in the capacity of traveller. He was to enter all the cash he received in a cash-book and send the money and book to Llanelly once every week. A cash-book was supplied him for that purpose. At Llanelly we transferred the entries from the prisoner's cash-book into our general cash-book. The book and cash were sent down to us regu- larly every week. I gave him instructions not to open any new accounts, without my authority. He occasionally broke through theso instructions. In consequence of cer- tain correspondence with our customers, I went down to Cross Inn on the 28th of June last. I met the prisoner at the station, and he returned with me to the office. I pro- duce the cash-book. 011 the 25th of February, 1861, David Thomas owed Mr Buckley ZCIO 15s. There is no entry on the cash-book, of this or any monej paid by David Thomas, on the 25th of February. That money is not accounted for in any way in this book. The bill and receipt to Mr Thomas for the amount, now produced, are on the ordinary printed form supplied the prisoner by Mr Buckley. The receipt is in the prisoner's handwriting. I have no doubt of it. In May last James Hees owed Mr Buckley X9 131 6J, which he paid the prisoner, who has not accounted for the money in any way. I produce the prisoner's receipt. On the 20th of June last David Thomas owed Mr Buckley XI 5s, which he paid the prisoner, who has not accounted for the money. I produce the prisoner's receipt. These ac- counts were not entere d on the prisoner's cash-book as received, nor has ho paid the money. When I went into the office at Cross Inn, on the 28th of June, tho cash-book was on the table. I opened it, and saw that there had bean no entries of cash since the previous Friday. I requested him to render me au account of all the money he had re- ceived for Mr Buckley. He said he would, and took this cash-book away with him into his own house. He was away about a quarter of an hour or more. When he re- turned I found there were some fresh entries which he had just made. These entries did not contain the sums for which I have produced receipts given by the prisoner. I asked him if he had entered all the cash he had received for Mr Buckley, and he said he had. The sign over the stores bears Mr Buckley's name. Cross-examined by Mr Pjwell: How are you paid Witness—By salary. Mr Powell—What are you? Wit- ness — I am Mr Buckley's agent or managing clerk. Mr Powell —Did you give the prisoner a list of all your cus- tomers ? Witness — Jfes when the engagement was (luded I gave him a list of our then customers, with parti- cular orders not to trust any one else without my per- mission. Mr Powell Was that order attended to ? Witness-No the prisoner occasionally broke it, by not in every case consulting me before opening a fresh account. Mr Powell-You did not object to his conduct in that re- spect? Witness-Not when the customer was a good one. Mr POlVell-Oo. the 28th of June you went to the office kept by the prisoner, where was it ? Witness—In the village of Cross Inn. jAr P,)welL-Who paii the rent of the office? Witness-I do not know, but the office was in the prisoner's house. Mr POlVell- Who paid the rent? That is the ques- tion I put. Wtuess—I really do not know, but I suppose the prisoner did so. Mr Powell-You are Mr Buckley's managing clerk, did he pay the rent ? Witness-fle did not. Mr Powell—I suppose there was fire in the room during the winter, if so who found the coal ? Witnesi- There was fire in the offioo, and the prisoner fonnd the coal, I believe at any rate Mr Buckley did not. [rhe witness here replied to a great many question!! showing the nature and extent of the business done by the prisoner every year for Mr Buckley, from which it appeared that he sold large quantities of flour, malt and beer, and that considerable sums of money passed through his hands.] Mr Powell When you saw the prisonei in June, you say you charged him with not having accounted for certain moneys he had received for Mr Buckley? Witness-I did. Ur Powell- At that time did you not ask him for security for the money he had not accounted for ? Witness-I did not. Mr Powell—Did you at any time after that ask him for security for the money ? Witness—I did not. Mr POlvell-Did the prison"roffof you a policy of insurance on his life, about a week after you saw him at Cross Ian ? Witness-Yes. he did. Mr Povell-Diti you take it to Mr Buckley? Wit- ness-Yes, I did. Mr Lticelles-The stores were the pro- perly of Mr Bickley ? Witness-Yes. lic Ltscelles-Y(iu have stated that a large sum passed through the prisoner's hands, now will you tell us the amount of his defalcations ? [Mr Powell objected to the question, contending that the proseoution was confined to the charges in the indictment, and the court held the objection to be good.1 Mr Powell- Was there some conversation between you and the prisoner respecting an increase in his salary ? Witness-fle applied for an increase which I refused to give. Mr Ltseelles- When the prisoner offered you security did you accept it ? Witness—No. He said the house he lived in was his own. Mr Liseelles -Did you offer to accept the lease of the house or the policy of in-aurance ? Witneis-I am not aware that we did. The prisoner's statement as to the ownership of the house was contradicted. The Chairman—Was David Thomas on the list of customers you gave the prisoner ? Witness—No. The Chairman—Did he become a customer afterwards with you sanction ? Witness-I do not at this moment remember whether I had any conversation with the prisoner, about David Thomas. The Ciiairinan-Llad David Thomas paid anv previous money through the pri- soner to Mr Buckley. Witness—Yes. The Chairman —Was James fiaes on the original list ? Witriesq-Na I believe I opened the account with him myself. The Chairman Had he paid any money to the prisoner for Mr Buckle y before the transaction upon which he is now on his trial ? Witness- Y es. David Thomas and James Rees proved paying the pri- soner the sums mentioned in the indictmnent, and for which the receipts signed by the prisoners were produced and read. This concluded the case for the prosecution. Mr Powell said that there was no case to go to the Jury against the prisoner, who was charged with defrauding Mr Buckley, and yet Mr Buckler had not been examined, and for aught they knew to the contrary, the money might have been paid to Mr Buckley himself. T,ic Chairman said that it was in evidence, that the pri- soner had not accounted for the money in any way. Mr Powell said it was very remarkable that the prosecutor, whose name was on the back of the indictment, was not examined. Mr Lascelles explained that he was not aware Mr Buck- ley's name was on the back of the indictment, and said that if Mr Buckley had been called, it would have been merely as a matter of form, for he should not have asked him a single question. Mr Povell contended that as the case now stood it was so incomplete, that there was nothing left for the Jury, and he must object, after the close of the case for the proseoution, to Mr Buckley being called to patch up the case; The Chairman thought.that Justice should not be defeated, merely through an oversight on the part of the prosecu- tion to call Mr Buckley. Mr Buckley was then called by Mr Lascelles, who re- marked that he had no question t1 aik him, and Mr Powell said he certainly should not examine him. The Chairman—Whore do you live? Witness-At Penyfai, near Llanelly. Chairinan-aa3 the prisoner been in your employ ? Witness—Yes. Chairman—In what character. Witness—A clerk or shopkeeper. Chairman- Have you been in the habit of receiving money for him which he has received on your account ? Wituess-l have never to the best of my recollection received any money from him, Chairmin-But he has received money on your account and paid it to some one. Witness—Yes, ho sent all moneys he received to my office at Llanelly every week, with the cash book. Chairman-To whom was that money paid ? Witness I believe to Mr Bytheway, at first, but lately to my second son who is now cashier. Chairman —How long has he been cashier. Witness-[After referring to a cash book] since July 1861, and it was his duty to receive all moneys pail by the prisoner. Chair- man-Is your son here. Witness—He is. Mr Lascelles said that if the court was of opinion the case was incomplete, he would not go to the jury. He was only now made aware of the real state of the case. The 'Chairman asked if Mr Lascelles, on the part of the crown, thought the evidence insufflcent ? Mr Lascelles did not think so, as it had been proved in evidence that the money had not been accounted for in any way to Mr Buckley. Mr Powell said he had another objection to make before he addressed the jury. The prisoner was charged with embezzling the money of his master in the capacity of a servant, but the evidence went to show that he was an agent and not a servant. He ought, therefore, to have been in- dicted under the Bailee Act. Iu support of this opinion he cited the ruling in the case of the Queen against Walker. Mr Lasoelles argued that as the prisoner was indicted under the Consolidated Statutes of 1861, the ruling in a case so far back as 1859 had no bearing on this case. Be- sides the prisoner was really a clerk or servant and not an agent. There was nothing in the evidence to show the agency of the prisoner. This point was argued at considerable length, and the court decided that the objection was fatal. Under the direction of the Chairman the jury returned a verdict of Not Guilty." The other indictments against the prisoner being also bad, the counsel for the prosecution offered no evidence, and the jury acquitted the prisoner in each case. David Davies, 22, labourer, was charged with having fraudulently obtained one shilling and fourpence from Joshua Griffiths, at Llandilo, on the 12th instant. Mr 0. Wilson appeared for the proseoution, instructed by Mr J. P. Lewis, Llandilo. The prisoner was undefended. The circumstances out of which this prosecution arose were stated in our report of the Llandilo Police Court, which appeared in the WELSHMAN of last week. From the evidence of the prosecutor, an old maiftpparently between 70 and 80 years of age, he heard the prisoner on the day in question call out at his door, -Hii "old laiy" (alluding to his wife) went to the door, and he Ward the prisoner ask Where's Joshua." Mrs Griffiths.hailing told him that her husband was in the garden, the prisoner went there to him. Having asked the prosec how he was, he proceeded to ascertain how muoli, money he had, by the following method. He stated that., Tie had just met Mr Gwynne Hughes, of Tregib, mp the road-a mere accident, of course,—who asked him if he would go to Cwmamman to fetch a couple of dogs. Prisoner could not refuse to go; but as he had no money in his pocket, and as Mr Hughes bad no small change," that gentleman had requested him to ask the prosecutor for the loan of a shilling or two, which Mr Hughes would repay whenever the prosecutor called at Tregib. The prosecutor told his old lady to give the pri- soner what money she had, and she gave him a shilling and a fourpenny piece. Prisoner then asked the prosecutor if he had another sixpence to lend and the prosecutor said he had not got a halfpenny, and the prisoner then went away. On the following day the prosecutor went to Tregib to remind Mr Hughes that he had advanced the prisoner the money, but Mr Hughes denied having seen the prisoner or spoken to him. In reply to the Court, the witness said he lived about a mile from Tregib. He did not think the prisoner was drunk, although he "smelt" of beer. His wife gave the money to the prisonor, because he asked her to do so and he would not have asked her to give the prisoner any money if the prisoner had not told him he was sent by Mr. Hughes. Mr Gwynne Hughes, of Tregib, siid he had never em- ployed the prisoner to do anything for him. He did not see him on the 12th instant, and did not send him on that day or at any other time to borrow money of the prosecutor. The Prisoner said he knew nothing at all about it; having been very drunk on the day in question. A Juror wished to know why the prosecutor's old lady had not been brought before them. Mr^Wilson said he was in a position to produce evidence to show that she was too ill to attend but the court thought it unnecessary. The learned Chairman briefly summed up the evidence, and the jury almost immediately found the prisoner guilty.-Sentenoe, two months' imprisonment, with hard labour. John Davies, 35, labourer, was charged with stealing a bridle and a pair of heins, the property of Morgan Morgan, of Ffairfach, Llandilo. Mr Lascelles appeared for the pro- serution, instructed by Mr J. P. Lewis, Llandilo. The pri- soner was defended by Mr Oliver Powell; attorney, Mr T. Jones, Llandovery. Mr Lascelles, in stating the case to the jury, explained that the articles were missed by the prosocutor, and found in the prisoner's premises, concealed and he had not properly accounted for the possession of them. Morgan Morgan, the prosecutor, stated that in Septem- ber last, he was living at Ffairfach, and at that time there was a railway in progress of construction, the outting being about six hundred yards from his house. He saw the bridle and heins on the 13th of September, and on the 14th he missed the heins, the bridle being missed on the 17th. He next saw them at the policeman's house. The bridle pro- duced he identified as his property, and one-half of the pair of heins.—In cross-examination he said he now lived at Cardiff, having left Ffairfach on the 23rd of September. On the day he lett Ffairfach he had a sale, and all his effects were sold except the bridle and heins, and those would no doubt have been sold if he could have found them. They were kept in a bin in the yard. He employed an auctioneer to sell, and thara was a clerk at the sale keeping an account of the articles sold. In answer to Mr Lascelles, he repeated that he missed the bridle and heins before the sale, and could not find them. Benjamin Griffiths, a navvy, said he was working on the Carmarthen and Llandilo Railway, in September, and the prisoner worked on the same cutting. At the time the prosecutor missed the articles they were working three miles from Ffaii fach, but the line of -,railway goes within twenty-five yards of the prosecutor's house. He recollected Llangadock fair, which he believed was held on 14th Sep- tember, The day before the fair be gathered a troop of men to go.to work, and was at Ffairfach on that day. He there saw the prisoner in the yard of the prosecutor standing by the bin where the bridle and heins ,rere kept. He saw a catt bridie in the bin, That was between eight and nine o'cluck in the morning. —In reply to Mr Powell, witness 8.id only those who had busitieds there would go into the yard i where he saw the prisoner. Witness went to the houMt having business.—Mr Lascelles: The prisoner had no busi- ness there? Witness: N,,). -Nir Powell: How do you knoll that ?-Witness Because I weat to the house, and the prisoner did not. John Davies, formerly a servant with the prosecutor* identified the bri lle produced as the property of the prosecu- tor. While in his emptov he broke the bridle at the place where it was mended. He was also quite sure that one part of the heins was Mr Morgan's property, because it was at one time too small for the horse, and he had recommended his master to lengthen it at a place he now pointed out. -111 cross-examination witness said be never saw another pair of heins lengthened exactly like the pair produced, which he did himself; although he did not pretend to say that the workmanship was particularly good. Dairid Themas, police-constable, stated that he took it warrant to the prisoner's house, at Dolearre;, in the parish of Motbvey, and he there found the articles produced, in the cockloft, under the roof. He charged the prisoner with stealing them, and he said, in reply, that he had purchased them at Mr Morgan's sale.—In cross-examination witness said there were he IpS of things in the cockloft besides the articles produced, but he found the bridle and heins under the roof. He admitted that the house and all that was in it were under the roof, but these articles were very different- ly placed to all other thing. If he had gone there with » lighted candle, there was nothing to prevent him seeing them. There was nothing thrown over them.—In reply to Mr Lascelles, witness said the bridle and heins were placed under the eaves, and quite separate from all the other things on the loft. Mr Powell (addressing the jury): My learned friend in opening this case told you that if the prisoner had honestly come by these articles ha would account for the possession of them. Now, I think I can show you that he has accoun- ted for them, and his statement cannot be contradicted. He says he purchased them at the prosecutor's sale and if that statement is false it is an easy matter to contradict it; but the prosecutor has not produced the auctioneer, or the clerk, or the sale-book; in fact, no attempt has been made to disprove the prisoner's statement. The Chairman having summed up, the jury found the prisoner guilty and a former oonviction for felony having been proved against him, he was sentenced to twelve months' imprisonment with hard labour. Henry Marsden, a young man aged 21 years, described on the calendar as a shoemaker, was charged with stealing two books and a robe from the Welsh Collegiate Institution, Llandovery. Mr Powell conducted the prosecution, instructed by Mf Jones, Llandovery. From the evidence it appeared that the prisoner wall apprehended on the 7th of July, at Builth, by Sergeant Fly, who seeing a bundle wilh him took him into custody on suspicion that he had stolen it. When in custody he told the officer the best thing he could do was to lock him up, and that he had stolen the two .books which were in the bundle from a school-room at Llandovery. He also con' fessed on the following.day to having taken the robe. Fly sent to Llandovery and found that the Institution had been broken into, and ,two books atolen. Ann Thomas, a ser- vant at the Institution, stated that she saw the prisoner at the back door of the premises on the 6th of July, & that she had some conversation with him. The Rev. W. Scott, classical master, identified the books. One, a Latin Dio- tionary, was his property, and the other, a Dictionary of Greek and Roman Antiquities, belonged to the Rev. W. Watkins, the Warden. Sergeant Howells proved that a pane of glass in the Class Room at the Institution was broken sufficient to admit the prisoner. The Jury found the prisoner guilty, and having pleaded guilty to a previous conviction, he was sentenced to two years' imprisonment, with hard labour. James Jonathan, a middle aged Welshman, surrendered to take his trial on a charge of stealing two yearling ewes at Llansawel, on the 23rd of Juty, the property of Benjamin Thomas. Mr Lascelles appeared for the prosecution, instructed by Mr J. P. Lewis. The prisoner was not defended. Benjamin Thomas, a farmer, living at Penlan, Llansawel, stated that on the 23rd of July he missed some sheep from his flock on the farm, which he found at the Hops, neat Llandilo, a public-house kept by Edward Davies, who said that he bought them of the prisoner on the 23rd of Juty. Thomas, and David Richards, his servant, identified the sheep, which were brought into court. Tile prisoner, who said nothing in his defence, was found guilty. The same prisoner waq charged with stealing one ram and a lamb, the property of David Davies, at Llansawel, on the 3rd of August last The prosecutor, who lives at Rhyd- gwyn, in the parish of LiansAwel, slid he had a raw a nd a lamb on his farm un the 2nd of August, and about five o'clock on the morning of the 3rd he missed them. The lamb was his property, but the ram was lent him by a neigh- bouring farmer for the use of his sheep. He gave informa- tion to the police, and on the 4th of August he accompanied a policeman to Swansea, and in the public slaughter-house there he found the missing sheep, which he identified as his property. [The sheep were introduced into the court, and maintained the utmost decorum whilst the case was being proceeded with.] Wil liaca Alabe, a butcher, of Swansea, said he bought. ram and a lamb of the prisoner on the 4th of August, and placed them in the department (No. 1) of the slaughter- house, where he slaughters his beast. The ram in court he identified as one of those sheep, but he could not swear to the lamb, which, of course, had grown, and was much altered in appearance since then. William Davies, inspector of the public slaughter.bollse. at Swansea, stated that on the day the prollecutor carne to the slaughter-houses and identified the two sheep, there were something like a hundred sheep there. The sleep identified by the prosecutor were brought to the slaughter- houses by the prisoner James Williams, a farmer residing in the parish of Llao- sawel, identified the ram as his property, and the one he lent the prosecutor. David Hopkins, a policeman, stationed at Llandi, lo, said he accompanied the prosecutor to Swansea, and saw him identify the two sheep now produced. He took possession of them on the 4th of August, and had them in his posses- sion from that day. David Davies, a policeman stationed at Llansawel, who apprehended the prisoner, stated that in answer to the charge, Jonathan said he had bought the sheep of a man on the road. This was the case for the prosecution, and the prisoner called Edward Davies, landlord of the Hope public-house, near Llandilo, who could not swear that he saw the sheep produced in the prisoner's field before they were taken in Swansea. He believed he had seen the ram in the prisoner a field, but he could not say anything about the lamb. 10 answer to Mr Lascelles, witness said he saw the prisoner passing his house with sheep about four o'clock on the morn* ing of the 3rd or 4th of August. Tie prisoner now said that the prosecutor told him to take the sheep and sell them for him, and to make the best be could of them. He called several witnesses to character, all of whompsaid they had never heard of any charge brought againsMiim before the present one. The jury, after consulting for a short time, found the prisoner guilty, and the learned Chairman, ill, passing sen- tence upon him, said: Although you have felled several witnesses, who have given you a good character, yet the Court cannot overlook the fact that you have been convicted, upon the clearest possible evidence, of two separate crimes, of a similar nature and of a very serious character. The crime of sheep-stealing has always, in this country, been considered a serious crime, because a man cannot protect hIS sheep as he can his money or his household furniture, and, therefore, the law is severe in punishing offenders of your description, and enables this cjurt to send yon to penal servitude for the term of fourteen years. This Court, how- ever, will hot pass so severe a sentence upon you as it 18 empowered to pass, but still it will be one of considerable severity, and I trust it will be to you and to everybody a warning not to offend again. The sentence of the Court is that, for the first offence, you be imprisoned in the Honse of Correction, at Carmarthen, for the term of one calendar month; and that at the expiration of that term, and for the second offence, you be kept in penal servitude for the period of five years. James Brown, 27, described as a tanner, Frederick Fra*CK,, 31, cook and steward on ship-board, and Thomaf WUliarnsi 28, blacking maker, an interesting trio, were charged with feloniously breaking into and entering the dwelling-house of Joseph Davies, at Cwm, Eglwysoummin, on the 23rd of September, and stealing a waiscoat, one flannel shirt, and other articles. Mr Oliver Powell prosecuted, instructed by Mr J. H. Jeffries, Carmarthen. The prisoners pleaded guilty in an easy, comfortable mood, as if it hadbeea the business of their life; and Wil- liams, with the utmost nonchalance, pleaded guilty to two former convictions, one for larceny, at Cardiff, and the other for felony, at Haverfordwest. Brown was sentenced to fifteen months' imprisonment, Franck to fourteen months, with hard labour in each case and Williams was sentenced to seven years' penal servi- tude. This concluded the business of the sessions, and the Court rose shortly before seven o'clock.
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Ci/IETON SUSPENSION BRIDGE. —The inhabitants of Clifton are taking measures to procure a public opening of this magnificent structure on its completion next month. A meeting was held on Friday evening at Pomeroy's KoomSi at which Mr Kempster, one of the town councillors for the ward, presided, and at which it was resolved to ascertain from the directors of the bridge company whether any public ceremony is contemplated on the opening of the bridge, and offering to render any assistance for such purpose. A deputation was also appointed to wait upon the Mayor, and request him to bring the subject under the consideration of the Town Council. A BIBLE SEIZED BY THE BAILIFFS. A bailiff of the Wapentake Court of the hundred of Clitheroe was, on Thurs- day, deputed to serve a process from the court upon a pooir man in Blackburn, the amount being small. The whole of the family being out of work, and actually in want of the common necessaries of life, they were unable to muster the payment of one shilling for appearance, whereupon the bailiff seized the family Bible, almost the only remaining remnant of the household goods, with which he walked off ID triumph. A FATAL PRIZg FIGHT AT SHEFFIELD. On Sunday a shocking scene occurred in a wood on the western side ov Sheffield. A number of young men of the lowest claot went to the Old Park Wood for the purpose of "briuling off," as the slag term is, a couple of prize fights. the sacredness of the day was profaned by an assemblage of some of the most dissolute of the population; and the scene began at six in the morning, the ring being regularly prepared, the men being provided with "seconds," &°'» and in fact there were all the usual ceremonies observed. Two prize fights were arranged, and when one had been brought to a conclusion, two young men, one of whom was named Thomas Dawes, stepped into the ring to fight for £1 a-side. They fought for 20 minutes, and at the conclusion of a round, in which Dawes had received a heavy blow on tho throat, he was placed on his second's knee. On time" being called, he rose and attempted to close with nis antagonist, but suddenly reeled and fell dead. His 16 friends" ran away affrihted, but some of the by- standcrs carried the body to an adjacent public house. The police arc in active pursuit of the pugilist, whose stJllbnquet is Billy Muck." He has fought several times before.— Leeds Mercury.
UNIVERSITY FOR WALES.
UNIVERSITY FOR WALES. A publio meeting for promoting the establishment of high class colleges and a University in Wales, was held at the Shire Hall on Tuesday evening, Valentine Davis, Esq., mayor, in the chair. There was a very small attendance. The Chairman after reading the placard announcing the meeting, said that as chairman he was precluded from giving his opinion on the subject, but 'must con- tent himself with putting the motions to the meeting, seeing that they were properly seconded, and that they were relevant to the object which the meeting was called to promote. He believed that at a meeting called for the promotion of any object no discussion could be allowed; neither could any hostile motions or amend- ments be received. Dr. Lewis said The Principality of Wales, by reason of the speciality of the language of its people, claims to be considered as a distinct part of the King- dom of Great Britain. The Celtic descent and peculiar language of its people give a unity to Wales that must be admitted. Theoretically, it is one with England, more so than Scotland, for its courts of judicature are identical, which is not the case in Scotland but really and practically, the people of Wales are very distinct from the English people. It is perfectly useless to ignore this difference, and to say that Wales does not want any separate educational establishments from what exist in England. The non-recognition of this fact is the main cause why the people of the princi- pality have remained so poorly furnished with public schools and colleges for laymen It will be my en- deavour to show that, though in respect to other things, the people of the principality may send to England for what they require; yet, with -respect to education, it is of essential importance that the machinery thereof, as represented by Colleges and a University, should be located conveniently in the midst of t,hArno. '.l'hl IS a privilege enjnvod. \Jy nimosi every QfttiODftlity of equal oua importance on the continent of Europe. And it must be the earnest desire of every patriotic Welsh- man that his own country should cease to be the ex- ception to this state of things. Belgium is about twice the area of Wales, and with a population (in 1831) of 4,064,235 it contains three universities—Ghent, Liege, and Louvain. Switzerland, with an area of about 16,000 square miles, or about twice the extent of Wales, and a population of 2,188,395, has two universities- Zurich and Basle; and academies at Geneva, Bern, and L&nsane, in which degrees in Law, Divinity, and Arts are given. Scotland, with an area of 26,014 square.miles, and a population of about 3,000,000 (a little more than three times the size of Wales), has four universities, &c.: Aberdeen University- King's College (founded by James IV., 1494) Marischall College, New Aberdeen (founded by George Keith, Earl Marischall, in 1521). Average attendance at King's College, 300 Ma- MchaH, 250. St. Andrew's University, the most ancient in Scotland, founded in 1411, by the Bishop of St. Andrews, has two colleges St. Salvator's and St. Mary; and has a chancellor and rector. Population in 1831, in parish of St. Andrews, 5621. Edinburgh University, first instituted, 1582, by James VI. of Scotland, is under the control of the Town Council; has never had any chancellor, and not always a rector; no academical dress worn; no attendance on Divine service enforced; no discipline exercised outside the walls of the class rooms it has a library. Glasgow University, founded by Pope Ni- cholas V., 1450, has no chambers for students; sess'on extends from October to May; [students said to be too poor 10 continue at study any longer; has a library; one year's number of students, 1027. None of the Scotch Universities are of less standing than 300 years; hence the people of Scotland have had an enormous advantage over the other divisions of the kingdom. For every million of people they have had a University and College to train and educate their youths, and that for more than three centuries. Can we, then, wonder that the Scotch people are the best-educated and the foremost, in proportion to their numbers, of the people of this kingdom. Another great advantage that the Scotch have enjoyed is that the Uni- versities were not collected all in one city, or district, but were distributed at distances throughout the land. Suppose that instead of such an arrangement all these institutions were confined to Edinburgh, I have no doubt that the Scotch people would only have been half as well educated as they are. A few words as to what may have been the cause of the backwardness of the Welsh people in intellectual culture. I think it has been from an excessive degree of patriotism or love of country, and from a blind attachment to the Welsh language; also an indisposition to amalgamate with the English people. It cannot be mere geographical posi- tion, or distance from the seat of government, for Scot- land is considerably further, and the people of that part of the kingdom have long ago adopted the English language and literature, though it has retained much of its ancient judicature, and has its own form of national religion. Hence we must look to some peculiarity of national sentiment, to account for the isolation in which the Welsh people have kept themselves ever since their exclusive residence in Wales. Whatever the cause may have been, it is more than time that it should be given up. And it behoves us now that we should know the time of our visitation. Some of the best friends of Wales are now bestirring themselves to obtain for the people the only means by which they can lift themselves out of obscurity and apathy-that is, by establishing fully equipped colleges and a University amongst them. A tide of material prosperity seems to be about to visit the Principality, and it is to be hoped that the people will now make a vigorous effort to obtain for themselves what they have every right to possess—a National University and colleges. The results of having such institutions in Wales would, I am sure, be most grati- fying. Instead of about 100 of the youth being privi- leged to undergo collegiate training and education in part of Wales, there would at least be 500 or 700. There are persons who think that it is better that our Welsh youths should go to English public schools rather than remain in the Principality; but the answer to this is, that the greater portion of the inhabitants of Wales are not in a position to send their sons to Eng- lish colleges, the requirements being too great but they would all avail themselves largely of the means of a good education in Wales if the necessities be moderate. There are others who taink that we should never be able to obtain first-class professors-that such men would not come into Wales; but that appears to me to be a very superficial remark, for learned professors go to our colonies, and in fact they go anywhere pro- vided they are adequately compensated and, therefore, why should they not come to Wales if we adequately remunerate them for their services. I beg to move the following resolution That this meeting is deeply sensible of the need in the Principality of Wales of High Class Educational Institutions similar to those possessed by other parts of the United-Kingdom, and approves of the effort now being made to secure such Institutions." Dr Nicholas said he was happy to second the reso- lution, which was in tenor similar to what had been proposed at other public meetings held for the same object as that they were met to promote, and he had found that wherever it had been proposed the meeting had cordially adopted it. If they would allow him he would explain what they meant by meeting to promote this object. They had met for the purpose of taking the subject into their consideration, for the purpose of ex- planation, and even for the purpose of conversation. The promoters were anxious that the mind of Wales should be exercised on this subject. They were ex- ceedingly anxious that the subject should have the candid consideration of all intelligent people-to secure the co operation of all the intelligent people of the Principality-to proceed upon a basis wide enough to enable all the people of Wales to stand upon it-to em- brace all sections of the church, all political parties in the country. They would not exclude any man from their proposed University they were anxious to es. tablish an institution which should be wholly unsec- tarian and they did not intend to shut out from its ad- vantages by reason of conscience or honest opinion any individual in the country. He would explain, as precisely as he could, the object they had in view. They thought that Wales, being the only country in Europe destitute of high class colleges, ought to be provided with them. The country was large enough, and rich enough, to provide institutions equal to those of other countries. They thought the million-and-a-half Welshmen stood as much in need of a University, as Scotland stood in need of four they thought that Wales was as worthy of one large university as Ireland was of two large universities containing several great colleges. Well, then, they meant to start two new colleges, with two professors and as there might exist some national feeling in this as well as other matters, it was intended to erect one college in the North, and one in the South; and this was neces- sary not only by reason of national feeling, but because of the distribution of the population. They could not expect the young men to come from the North to their college in the South, and vice venaThey therefore thought they should first of all establish one college in the North, on unsectarian principles but if Lampeter College would join them, or if they were allowed to join Lampeter, they would wish to make that College the first of three. But inasmuch as Lampeter College belonged to the Church of England and must remain in the Church, it would not provide the means of educa- tion for thousands of young men who by reason of conscience could not go there. But he did not say that the other two colleges should exclude churchmen. On the contrary they proposed to open them to all so that while the College at Lampeter would admit only those in the Church, the other colleges would admit all young men without reference to their religious persuasions They proposed to receive young men from the various colleges and institutions in Wales, such as Llandovery College, and Brecon College, as well a3 from some of the superior old grammar schools of the country, and give them a high-class education such as could now only be obtained at Oxford or Cambridge at great expense. There wAs no reason why they should not form a uni- versity, which should corn" tip to the standard of the other universities of the "kingdom and with that ob- ject it was proposed to affiliate their colleges to a university, to consist of a annate, &c., which ) would sit in different parts of Wales, or some one place which might hereafter be selected, for the purpose of conferring degrees, and to which the colleges would be enabled to send their alumni. It was, in fact, proposed that these colleges should form a confederacy of schools and institutions in Wales, which should be equal to those of any other part of the king- dom. But how did they propose doing this ? They had already commenced the formation of a fund of L-50,000, and they intended to get that amount. He was anxious that they should procure that amount, in order that it might be shown parliament what efforts were being made in Wales for the education of the peo- ple. The promoters of this scheme thought that if Wales would contribute to that amount, it would tell on the legislature. They would see that Welshmen had an earnest desire to benefit themselves by education; and he thought the result would be that the government would endeavour to conform to the request of a requisi- tion to the effect that while the people of Wales sought to start colleges, they could not themselves support them altogether, but would ask the legislature to help them, as they had done in other parts of the kingdom, to the extent of L-5,000 or Y,7,000 annually, which would be spent in the payment of professors, examiners, &c. He thought that Y,7,000 per annum would be necessary to the support of colleges such as those they proposed establishing. The University would not be a teaching institution any more than the London University was at the present time. It would be simply a corporation for the purpose of conferring degrees. It would consist of a senate composed of men learned in the various sciences, in literature, and in art, men who had distin- guished themselves in the country by reason of their learn- ing. He hoped to see learned bishops of the Church of England, and men of all degrees and professions, con- stituting that body. The senate would have the power of appointing examiners, of determining liuw the ex miners were to be paid, and what subjects were to be taught in the colleges and they would also have the power of conferring degrees, or of withholding them. Where the colleges would be erected was a question which had not yet been considered; but they would endeavour to fix upon those places which would be the most useful—as being most central, and most accessible. The examiners would meet in the two new colleges, and also at Lampeter College, if they had the privilege of having that college joined to them, or at some central place, but that was altogether unknown to them at present. That was their object, and the way in which they meant to accomplish it. He thought there was a pressing necessity to work together, and all should lend their aid to promote this great good. There was one point he wished to touch upon, namely, the importance of promoting middle-class education. (Hear, hear.) That was a question which should not be lost sight of. It had engaged the attention of the best men in the land, and he had thought a good deal upon it, and had, in his humble way, written a good deal upon it. They could not do much in Wales without it. They must have schools. They had been considering what would be the effect of those schools as regards their projected Uni- versity, and he believed they would operate well. The young men and their parents would see that their pros- pect of rising to higher degrees in the social scale would depend upon their education, and they would be stimu- lated by the prospect of having the honours which would result from their earnest exertions. Ho was sure that no young man of generous impulse would not arm himself, would not nerve himself to greater exertion if he knew that after years of toil he would have the learned in the land conferring upon him degrees, and proclaiming him to be a man of education. He thought it was but reasonable to expect that the existence of high-class colleges in the country would be a stimulus to the formation of middle class schools in the centres of of the population of Wales. He believed that after the lapse of two years from the formation of their colleges they would see the establishment of finer middle-class schools than they had ever yet seen in Wales. He did not wish to say one word against any of the schools that now existed; but he hoped to see in this place, and in the county of Carmarthen, better schools established than were now to be found. He hoped to see the resi- dent gentry risk a little of their property in order to give the sons of farmers, shopkeepers, and others around them the means of a superior education, which they could only get in high and middle-class schools. He would tell them how the scheme they were met to pro- mote would, at the same time, promote middle-class schools. When he was at Llanelly he was talking to Colonel. Stepney. The Colonel said, "I am most anxious to see the establishment of middle-class schools in this country; but do you think your University will promote them." The Colonel also said that there were connected with the Uni- versities of Scotland high-class schools, the ob- ject of which was to prepare young men for entering into the high classes of the Universities; and the Col. concluded by saying, And do you think your Uni- versity will promote the prosperity of schools of this kind ?" All he could say was, that that was what they had been expecting all the time. The establishment of these colleges and university, would be the means of establishing middle class schools in the immediate neighbourhood of each of the colleges, where young men would be prepared to enter into them. After the establishment of these colleges, with the middle and high- class schools, together with the existing National, Bri- tish, and other schools, there would be a complete organization in the land, and Wales would be equal to Scotland and England, but not superior, for he had named no class of schools that did not already exist in those countries. And was it too much to wish that Wales should be provided with the same means of edu- cation as other countries possessed. It was expensive to travel two or three hundred miles from home. The Scotchman kept his school as near home as possible. If they could give their young men as good education as could be procured in Scotland at as cheap a rate, they would be very favourably placed, and he could hardly conceive how a man could be a true and an enlightened patriot, without wishing to put his own country on a footing of equality with other parts of this great empire. (Hear, hear.) The Scotch people, the canny, industrious Scotch people, had provided as good education as could be found any- where, and it did not cost half as much as an education of an equal class did in Wales at the present time. Why, a man could not pass Eton for less than JE200, while he would pass in Edinburgh for X50. Again, the University of Oxford would not admit a young man with less than X180 a-year, and perhaps he would be fortu- nate enough to take scholarships that would reduce his cost to X150, or perhaps to 11130 but in order to obtain those, he must be up to a high mark. And if the young man cannot afford so large a sum, he must rest at home. Now, the question was, what would be the cost of an education in Wales equal to that of Cam- bridge or Oxford ? There were some people who con- sidered that nothing in Wales could possibly be equal to its kind in England. Perhaps the mountain-breezes of Wales wore not equal to the breezes met on the plains of England. He thought Wales was quite equal in many respects to England. The mental training of the young men of Wales could be carried on at home quite as well as in England,—at least he saw no reason why it could not. He thought they succeeded in teaching the multiplication table in Wales quite as well as in Log- land. (A laugh.) And if that be so, why should they not be equally successful with Latin and Greek. In fact, they could :learn anything in Wales quite as well as in England, except one thing, and that was the Eng- lish language-he meant the articulation of it. But if a young man applied himself to it, although the proba- bility was that he could not learn it so well as in Eng- land, yet possibly he would. Well, as he had before stated, they could not educate a young man in Oxford or Cambridge for much less than j6180 a year, and if they were close, they would still find it would cost them £ 150; and supposing the young man was fortunate in obtaining scholarships, the cost might be reduced to X120, or at the very lowest to ZIIO. Now, what he contended was that they could get as gooa an education in Wales, under this scheme, for 150 a year. The effect of that would be that 100 young men would receive a first-class education where two or three at present re- ceived it. The blessings that would ensue in twenty or thirty years from the establishment of these colleges would be unspeakable. He believed that the Welsh people needed nothing but bet- ter schools to place them on an equality with their neighbours. (Hear, hear.) He was at Llanelly on Thursday evening. They had not a large meeting, it was true-they never had large meetings. Somehow or other, the majority of the people. could not understand the subject they did not understand these grand things they were all very well for English people, but they would not do for Welshmen. Indeed, there were many intelligent men, he was sorry to say, who consi- dered the question of education a very dry question. If they talked to them of sending missionaries to the Hottentots, they would, perhaps, rouse them-(laughter) —but when the question of educating themselves was brought before them, they really could not'understand it. He wished to have good earnest men to think of this subject and to talk about it. Now, at Llanelly, after the meet- ing, which was attended by good men, they went about and were very favourably received. The meeting was presided over by Mr William Henry Novill, a very good, a very excellent, and a very liberal gentleman, and he had acted very kindly towards them. They continued to call upon the people, and they had seen a good many persons there this day, and the effect of their visit to Llanelly was that they had already, from the good people there, the sum of t5OO, and he was certain they would in a few weeks get from Llanelly £ 1,000. (Hear, hear.) He thought they ought to get a good sum from Carmarthen; and he believed that the committee in London would be pleased to find that the good old town of Carmarthen, the ancient capital of Wales, would do something for this object. In conclusion he thanked the Mayor for presiding, and also for his intelligent remarks; and expressed his willingness to answer any question which the audience might put to him and to give all the information that might be required. Ho seconded the resolution- The Mayor then put the motion to the meeting, and it was adopted. Mr Stevenson (a student at the Presbyterian College) moved the following; resolution That as the Colleges and Universities proposed to be established (while their Christian character will be amply secured by the ex- amination in the evidences of Christianity and the original languages of Scripture), are purely non sec- tarian, and offer equal advantages on equal terms to all, this meeting is of opinion that they are peculiarly suited to the circumstances and needs of the Principality, and worthy of the countenance and support of all sections of the people." Mr Evans (another student) seconde 1 the resolution, which the Mayor put to the meeting and declared to be carried unanimously. Mr D. Thomas (Lammas-street) said he did not con- sider the resolution carried unanimously when there were only three or four hands held up in its favour. The Chairman said it was generally understood that when no hands were held up in opposition to the reso- lutions they were carried unanimously. Mr Thomas said he did not consider the resolutions were carried unanimously, for although he did not hold up his hand in opposition, yet he was opposed to them. Dr. Lewis moved that the following gentlemen form a local committee (with power to add to their number) for the town of Carmarthen, with the view of diffusing information, and obtaining subscriptions. [The names of some dosea gentlemen were appended.] Dr Nicholas, in seconding the motion, said he did so in the hope that not only those named in the resolution, but several other influential gentlemen of the town, would take part in this work. They would find the duties of diffusing information and soliciting subscrip- tions very pleasant. (A laugh.) lie had been a beggar for many years, but he had never begged with such pleasure as he had within the last few days at Llanelly. He should certainly magnify the people of Llanelly, for they were good people. Ho knew the people of Carmarthen WAn, and he could not but think that, when it was considered that the good effect of what they were about to do would be felt for hundreds and thousands of years-.that the wells of intellectual refreshment they were seeking to open would satisfy thousands of their fellow-men, he could not but think that when the people of Carmarthen considered those things, they would act equally as liberal as had the people of Llan- elly. Ho had no hesitation in saying that they were sure to raise .fjo0,000; he would undertake to do that himself. (Hear, hear.) He knew something of the people of Wales, and had the utmost faith in their liberality. The press of the country, too, were unani- mous in their favour-he did not know of one newspaper that had spoken against them. It had been said that the nobility of the land never were found in the van, had never taken the lead in any movement for the ad vance- ment of the people. But he thought it would not be difficult to get them to fall in with their views on this question, aud if they succeeded in that, the nobility could do more for them than any other class. He believed they would give their support, and their money too. But it was for the middle class of Wales, who would be especially benefited, to do something for itself; and when the nobility saw that the middle classes were moving in the matter, they would not be slow to help them. There were friends of the Church of Wales who had not spoken out on this subject; but he hoped yet to see the learned bishops and the clergy of the Church of England give it their countenance and support. From all he could see, he had been led to think they would not oppose them. He had found that those who had opposed them had misunderstood them. They seemed to have been possessed of some vague idea that the promoters formed an institution in London, who had conspired to upset the institutions of the country but they were weak-minded people. They imagined that the educational establishments in Wales were good enough at present and that the promoters of this move- ment were endeavouring to promote seeretarianism in the land. He distinctly and emphatically denied this there was not a single man on the committee who desired to promote sectarianism. In all their dealings they were most anxious to unite the people, to promote the upion of all people. They had seen no good in sectarianism; but on the contrary they believed it was a positive curse, and they desired to do away with it. The resolution was then put to the meeting and car- ried. In reply to Dr. Nicholas, Mr D. Thomas said he was opposed to the movement, because he saw no necessity for an institution such as that proposed. A vote of thanks was then awarded to the Mayor, on the motion of Dr Lewis, seconded by Mr Stevenson and the meeting terminated.
- - -"'- -LLANELLY.-THE UNIVERSITY…
LLANELLY.-THE UNIVERSITY FOR WALES. I A public meeting was held at the Athenaeum, in con- nection with the Welsh University movement, on Thursday evening, the 20th inst., when W. H. Nevill, Esq., Llangennech Park, presided. There was a very small attendance. The Chairman regretted the small attendance, espe- cially on such an occasion as the present. It afforded him great pleasure to assist them in any way he could. A University for Wales was intended as the means for the better and more perfect education of the middle classes chiefly, although all classes no doubt would greatly benefit by its establishment. That was its real object. He might fairly say that the agitation on this matter was not from any particular section of the com- munity, but it emanated from the general body of the people both of North and South Wales. The very fact of the agitation proved that the, establishment of suchan institution was a felt want in the principality, and argu- ments of comparisons as regards Wales, Ireland, & Scot- land might be brought forward, which he thought would be quite conclusive on that point, if no better argument could be adduced but it rested on far better grounds. There was in Wales a defective system of education, the young men of Wales are behind their English and Scotch neighbours, both in physic and commerce, as well as the sciences generally. The university was intended to remove this deficiency. The details of how the Uni- versity and Colleges were to be established would be fully furnished by Dr. Nicholas, the deputation, and whether it was to raise the standard in existing schools by only testing their proficiency at the University. If that were all he could not join in the movement. He j should prefer inculcating moral discipline by residence in the University, as it would never be complete without that Referring to the dangers and difficulties which the promoters had to contend with, he said they were many, i and presented themselves in two forms: 1st. The danger of falling away to mere sectarianism and 2nd. The great danger of inculcating a morbid feeling of nation- ality. The movement started with aprejudice against it, the London Committee being chiefly formed of the Non- conformist body; however, they had to prove that would not be the case, and he must say that if the men who were on the committee would not bear that always in mind the movement undoubtedly would be an evil one, as it would tend to increase the barriers which now too plainly divided the various classes of the community, and it would destroy that broad platform now existing. The morbid feelings of nationality, Wales for the Welsh," was not of such importance, and therefore did not require so much notice. It must not create any such ill-feeling, nor draw any comparisons between English and Welsh abilities, but it must utterly and for ever do away with such narrow and vulgar prejudices' He cer- tainly would prefer a thorough Welshman who loves and boasts of his hills and dales, mountain and valleys, and is really proud of his native country, as history proves that nothing has been gained by breaking down and erasing national feeling, but it was always found better if possible to have a fusion of all classes of the community as regards their training at the University, without any reference to creed or party feeling what- ever. He concluded by wishing the movement every success. Dr. Lewis addressed the audience and in the course of his remarks said he was very glad to be able to say that the fears expressed by the Chairman as to the sectarian tendencies," of the intended University, were utterly unfounded, as the London University would be taken as a model. They would of course respect all parties and favour none and as regards a spurious national movement, he was glad to say that was groundless also. He hoped and wished soon to see such an institution as the Welsh University established, as it would enable the young men of Wales to cope with the young men of England, Ireland, and Scotland. The Rev. Dr. Nicholas was then introduced as the deputation from the London Committee. After a few introductory and very complimentary remarks on the town of Llanelly and its inhabitants, he observed that it was the spring time it was the morning of the Prin- cipality it may be now surrounded by mists, but he could just observe the atmosphere clearing. Wales undoubtedly was entering upon a most interesting crisis in its history this movement had much to do with the future prosperity of the country, it was a most earnest work, and the men who had taken this up did not trifle with matters either in Wales or England; they never would give it up, for it was not an experi- ment. It was the one thing desired by almost every inhabitant of the principality, and had the sympathy of all its English friends; and he was sure they were resting on a broad and sura foundation. In the first place he would just point out, as the old Divines used to do, what they did not intend doing. They certainly did not intend to promote sectarianism. He would assert, explain, and reason, until it was thoroughly understood, that they have not the slightest intention that way, but, on the contrary, to do away with it, and to combine in one body the whole of the churches and ministers and political parties, and have one common ground of action, and to combine the Church of England and other denominations in perfect equality, no advan- tage to be given to one more than to the other. Another important feature was that the various bodies of Chris- tians were to have no advantage over non-Christians. What they wanted was that the young men who needed culture should have the means provided for them. Another idea was that they did not intend to work for an empty nationality, as nothing distinctively Welsh would ever be introduced. The committee did not seem to please some good people, because everything was not Welsh. Some Eisteddfodau people went so far as to assert that there is no language like the Welsh, and no language ought to be talked in Wales but the Welsh. They actually wanted to deprive themselves of th,, im- mense advantage of acquaintance with one of the prime movers-the English language—in the civilisation of the world. They would have that element in it. Cultivate the Welsh as much as they liked, but he would say it was essential for the people of Wales to know English, to enable them to compete with the best men of England. It was suggested to combine this movement with the movement of Yr Eisteddfod," but he did not think that a wise plan. He thought it best to keep it entirely separate, and occupy entirely different ground. The inhabitants of the Principality never would become on an equality with the English until the English language was learnt. Ho would certainly like to see every man become a duoglot, as two languages were certainly better than one. Everyone had a better and a higher state of mental culture by mastering two languages than one, being then able to impart their ideas in Welsh as well as in English, therefore no one should talk about dropping altogether, or the utter annihilation of the venerable and still beautiful old language. He was proud in being able to say that he had felt the pulse of nearly all the inhabitants of North and South Wales, and found them all favourable to the movement and anxious to see it commenced. They intended raising X;50,000 before going to the Government for any asistance. They had already received promises which made in all a handsome sum of money— £ 4,000 or £ 5,000—and much more had boon promised. There were twelve CIOO, two or three t230, one £.50, and two £ 1,000. Other kind and liberal offers wore made in land, materials, &c. One gentleman offered 28,000 bricks at any time. It was surprising to him that the landed proprietors, the aristocracy of this country, did not so warmly help them as he ex- pected he had expected much from them but the proprietors of various works he always found most ready to assist him in any way, and he was thankful for their help. Although the argument did not rest on corn- parison with other countries, but rather on the facts that it is so greatly needed, they could not but observe j that the Government had established various Colleges in Australia, India, Canada, and other colonies, but he would ask whether they were more wanted than in Wales ? He thought it was quite right that when material progress was great, there should also bo in- tellectual progress, as otherwise it would be dangerous to society; the moral and religious, the material and the intellectual, should always move together: the University would supply the want and means for this. The mind of the Welsh people was highly capable of being cultured, and still they ware the only people in Europe destitute of culture. No people with so few advantages did so much, literally and intellectually their periodicals were chiefly contributed to by the working classes, of which he was proud the Eisteddfod itself was a witness to the intellectual life there was amongst them, and he had no hesitation in saying that the Welsh people had genius not equalled by any other nation. In the proposed University the mere power of conferring degrees and testing proficiency was not worth the labour, and it was absurd, indeed, to think of testing a power not in existence—it was unreasonable; they must establish a University and make it the leading power, the machinery to be the two first-class colleges —one in North and one in South Wales-where the very best university education would be imparted; the university would then test the subjects for study, including the different branches of science,' and literature, and languages; there would be ten or twelve chairs esta- blished; all the existing colleges now in Wales would be brought in and be entitled to affiliation with the University on adooting a course equal to its require- ments the students would also be residents for about three years, and pass a creditable examination. A large number of the youth of Wales would then be able to compete for University honours. Several resolutions were then passed. Mr James Buckley, Mr C. N. Broom, Mr It. B. Jones, and the Revds. David Rees and D. M. Evans, delivered short addresses. Mr Evans, in the course of his short but admirable address, regretted that so few were present, and said they all presumed such an institution was really desirable, that was granted by every one he declared that they would never be fully educated until it was established; what remained for them to do as a nation was to unite; the curse, the ancient curse of Wales, was its want of unanimity, and the presence of sectarianism; all denominational objects were at once warmly attended to and faithfully carried out; what was now wanted was to rise as one man and expand their hearts, and they would soon establish a University for Wales. Ho invited every one present to subscribe. On the motion of the Rev. D. M. Evans, seconded by Dr. Lewis, a cordial vote of thanks was given the Chair- man for his kindness in presiding.