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PUBLIC Meeting at CARMARTHEN.
PUBLIC Meeting at CARMARTHEN. On Tuesday last, a numerous and highly respectable Meeting of the Burgesses and Inhabitants of Carmarthen, ■was convened by David Davies, Esq., Mayor (pursuant to < requisition presented to him for that purpose), at the Guildhall of that town, for the purpose of adopting such measures as to the meeting may be deemed advisable in the present position of public affairs." His Worshipful the Mayor, having been unanimously called to the chair, opened the meeting by adverting to the requisition calling the same, the very respectable signatures to which, comprising the most independent gentlemen of the town, he said, left not a moment's hesitation on his mind as to the course he should adopt. He had, therefore, fixed upon the first day left open to him of acceding to their wishes. He had no doubt should any difference of opinion arise as to the best means of attaining the objects which they were that day met to discuss, that all persons would receive a fair hearing. Having read the requisition, and stated that he should be happy to hear all parties having any resolutions or remarks to offer to the consideration of the meeting, The Hon. W. H. Yelverton rose, and moved the first re- solution, viz., That the present Administration deserves the confidence of the country." It sometimes happened, observed Mr. Yelverton, with persons called upon to propose or second resolutions at public meetings, that the whole of those resolutions did not coincide with their opinions, hut he felt happy in acknowledging that the one he held in his liand met his entire approbation and he also felt satisfied that it was approved of by the country generally. He was aware that it might be said by those who differed with them in politics, that the smallness of the numbers assembled at jpresent* was an argument to the contrary but when they took into account that their adversaries did not also come forward to combat in the only open manner in which the truth or fallacy of a proposition could be attained, they had a right (taking also other circumstances into account) to claim all merit for their present position, in according their confidence in his Majesty's present Administration. He was aware, too, of the objections which several well meaning Reformers of the town had to public meetings, especially on the spot fraught with recollections of Tory misrule, yet but too fresh in their memories.—(Loud cheers.)—He, however, was not to be daunted by such circumstances, conceiving that their interests were best consulted by discussion in the open day, in preference to hawking Addresses from door to door for signatures, without previously calling public meetings, the only Sure test of popular approbation.—(Cheers.)—They were met that day to celebrate the overthrow of a party, united for the annihilation of the best rights of the country; and notwithstanding they had, with their usual sagacity, revived the old cry of" TheChurch in danger," he believed the only danger with which it stood threatened, was from those very persons who propagated the libel. In truth," said Mr. Yelverton, it is not the Church, but the pounds, shillings, and pence that are in danger.—(Loud cheers.)—We should have no such cry about the Church, but for the latter objects." The Hon. Gent. then drew the attention of the meeting to the Clergy going forth, waging a crusade against doing jus- tice to the people of Ireland and asked, whether such con- duct tended not, rather to promote a spirit of opposition to, than to uphold Church of Englandism in that country ? He believed it was the patronage of the Church and not its spiritual welfare that was uppermost in their zeal, and if the Tones" pinned their faith" to the temporalities of the Insh Church, rather than to its spiritualities, he believed that some reasons might be offered for their exertions. Under such circumstances, however, they must fall; for the growing in- telligence of the age would allow of no such innovations upon the most valued rights of the community,—liberty of con- science,—no longer.—(Cheers.)—The Hon. Gent. wished to see public meetings held a littlfe oftener than they had been, especially in Carmarthen. He was an advocate for what was called agitation, under existing circumstances; and thought, if persons were brought a little oftener together in discussion of public matters, it would be better. He was aware that some persons did not approve of those things, but such were his opinions. They might be called Destructives —innovators of the constitution, and so on, by those in op- position to them; but if frequently assembling to discuss matters which they held to be interwoven with their best rights, bore such designations, he was willing to incur those stigmas. He thanked his Majesty for the use of his consti- tutional prerogative in calling back to his councils the present Administration. He was glad that Sir Robert Peel and his colleagues, had had a fair trial. He only wished to give them plenty of rope, and he was glad to see that the cord was jtteted out to them in such prolusion, as effectually to strangle themselves. The Hon. Gent, sat down amidst the most enthusiastic cheers. Capt. J. G. Philipps, R.N seconded the motion. B. C. Hall, Esq. moved—"That his Majesty having called to his councils the Members of the present Administration, is an assurance that those measures of sound and practical re- form, so earnestly demanded by the people as requisite to secure the well-being of the State, will no longer be withheld and that all civil and religious grievances will be speedily and effectually redressed." After apologising for what might be considered by some as an intrusion on his part in taking any prominent part in the discussions of the day, considering his decent settlement in the town, Mr. H. said, that the resolution which he had just read having been placed 10 his hands, he should consider himself as shrinking from the duty which he owed to his country, were he to decline proposing it for the adoption of the meeting in the best way he could, He would Earnestly call the attention of the meeting to a short review of circumstances connected with political affairs for the last five years. At the commencement of that period' (observed Mr. H), "the late Administration (or one based on the same prin- ciples) were in power. We cannot but recollect that they broadly asserted that no reform was necessary—that no re- trenchment in the public expenditure, consistent with the just wants of Governmcut,could he made—that every department of the State, worked well, both civil and ecclesiastical—that the people were satisfied—and that they (the Tories) would all innovations, as tbey styled them, to the utmost.—- XHear, hear).—A very short time only elapsed after the ex- pression of those memorable sentiments, ere they were hurled from power by the openly-expressed wishes of the country, another set of men came forward.—( Cheers J.—Those Jatter, having first ascertained the state of the country, brought »«* the Reform Bill; and considering the state of parties then In opposition, he could not but acknowledge, that it reflected the utmost credit on those who had undertaken its passage through both Houses of Parliament." He would not argue perfection of that Bill—he believed it would have been but for the opposition of the then former Ministry and hen they recollected the sacrifice the latter were called upon o make to the advancing intelligence of the country—the Pparent sacrifice of their Tamworths, Gattons, and other P'aces of equal notoriety, it is matter of no doubt as to what aused so strenuous an opposition. Thank God, such opposi- >on failed; and we have enjoyed that great charter of modern ays fw our future guidance and security.—(Loud cheers).— coiTi^u*' as sa'^ before, no diminution of public burthens th made by the Tories, the Reform Ministry had reduced sio ex1jen(Mtnre five millions 3000 useless placemen and pen- if thCFS had also been displaced within the last four years; and >n ffi6 n°W at ^e'm the state were allowed to continue o-p0 'no doubt the same system of policy,—a system wise, f^'ous, and just,—would pervade the whole of their mea- res. The present Administration, all must allow, had much with, but, no doubt, they had learned wisdom by pre eri+nCe' an(^ reaP'nK the fruits of past observations, would ap. *ei7 Jke charge of dilatoriousness being again brought ant»,nS i em" ^r' having submitted the resolution to the S,ov.aI of the meeting, sat down amidst loud plaudits. 08. Morris, Esq., banker, seconded the resolution, drpf"uS rsei Esq., R. N., in proposing" That the ad- .8 "e presented to his Majesty, expressive of our loyalty sun a^tac^ment to the Throne, and our determination to tini ?rt ,lis MaJesty in the due exercise of every constitu- I, prerogative," said, that when a man gets up to preach, generally gets up a text for the purpose of descanting pon he, therefore, (holding up a copy of the Carmarthen urnai) should take bis text from that p iper, alluding to a i^agiu' lvr > ing the re(l.uisit>onists of the present Meet- mFrth t?.se went « happy strain of irony and tei .de3cankn& »pon the before-mentioned article, sen- "?v H sentence- He Particularly noticed the inc'on8;s. add? -peiS.nS had lately assisted a hole-and-corner n,atl?f' st.gmatismg as Destructives persons who legiti- dreS °f)e"ly daffrd 10 aSSe":ble for «>e P»rPose of ad- cE"g KmS- He avovve<? h'mself a supporter of nurch and State. Respecting the last change in his Ma- U'a CoimcUs> he felt satisfied with the rfsult, and be- them to be fixed in the confidence of our Sovereign «ner than ever for, if a master sends for a servant, and to reinstate him in his former situation, the latter ge- 3YTP?k makes his own terms. He, therefore, trusted Lord wen/llrne had made his terms; and he (Mr. M.) argued qiiPeiS?"1 ithat appointment. Regarding the Irish Church of RP?"' ent.i,'ely approved of Lord John Russell's plan be betfFm' hdieving that the surplus revenues could not drenoftH snpphed than in the education of the poor chil- °f DU. a.t country. He would instance the great increase S!"ea<«<» lapels at Carmarthen, attributing such in- ship. if "L- 10 schools attached to each pi ce of wor- Unst i proposition be. correct, the same argument Hen S00. 'f adopted in the sister isle—CCheers.) Teu,]y tr™18.' seconded the resolution. jesty Morris, Esq., moved that an Address to his Ma- he re'a,i\li 6(? upon the foregoing resolutions (and which present .)e adopted, and be forwarded to Lord Cawdor for SUrge ahon; which was seconded by J. Jenkins, Esq., on. ttioved !ton. W. II. Yelverton again presented himself, and t° Lord T i t'ie thanks of this Meeting are eminently due havinw i n Russell, for his Lordship's talented services, in the C S° Sl,ccessftilly and triumphantly the majority in the co0mmons House of Parliament; which have secured to enactnllntry a Governnent that will have for its object the UefnJHen».of ,aws which will carry out the priuciples of the GentW I' for the benefit of the people." The Hon. the en., »" havlng particularized the services rendered to nation nf y the Noble Lord, and instanced his determi- Bin ma inS his stand upon the principles of the Re- ment of th as a means to an end—of having for the attain- the Conn M en^' driven Stanley, Graham, and Ripon, from Party f ls~and- more recently, Sir Robert Peel and his '^ntmi0^ head of Pul)lic affairs—the present Govern- the P '"ore emphatically be called the Administration Wishes ofTv? as seemed determined to consult the ^inistrati PeoP'e only. He trusted that the present Ad- would m n, havmg thrown themselves on the country, he was n that support which their services demand for, c°uld but SUadec*' t*iat Robert and his colleagues tui-n thp T)carry matters to their own desire, they would re- Ife (iyfr Bill, as a still-born child, upon their hands. v'sers wo M therefore, trusted his Majesty's present ad- the co ♦ rece've "pon all occasions the united support °wr onn Un ry> as a sure safeguard from the iron grasp of the chpp?cS8°/8; ^Mr* Y- was frequently interrupted by °J the Meeting.) incurred .htltPPs> Esqin seconding the proposition, fully trusted th tJle °hservations of the Hon. Mover, and at the Meeting, as a further maik of approbation b Tbe me f though fixed e 109 was prematurely announced for 120 clock, of iK u for H- This will acconnt for the ob- The wa8 aftSw^eirfillednhiS °f tbeProceedingS- 0f t],e coadopt of Lord John Russell, would enter into a subscription (in imitation of the example set by Manchester and other places), for the purpose of assisting in defraying thp Plortion expenses of so patriotic a character, in contra- distinction to the lavished gold of the Tories, forwarded to swamp our best nghts—(CAeers.) Geo. Thomas, Bsq., moved That the thanks of this Meet- ing be'given to Sir James Williams, Bart., one of the Repre- sentatives of the County of Carmarthen, for his faithfui at- tention to his Parliamentary duties; and for the consistent, manly and liberal votes which he had uniformly given— (Loud cheers.)—Thomas stated that, although he had not taken any part 10 the getting up of the present Meet- ing it gave him, nevertheless, great pleasure in going heart and hand with the resolutions. No Member of the House had attended more regular, or voted more consistent, than Sir James Williams, when formerly in Parliament; indeed, his increasing attention to his duties at that time—the pro- tracted hours of the House sitting, with the confined atmos- phere, had combined to injure his health to a great degree (Hear, hear.)—He had again fulfilled his trust, as was ex- pected being, as usual, at his post in time of need and as- sisted in carrying out those measures which they may be con. sidered as then met to celebrate—(Cheers.)—The Tories have again had a free trial; he (Mr. T.) hoped they would give Lord Melbourne the same advantage, and he trusted the latter would not truckle to those common enemies. It the present Administration will look to the people for sup- port, no doubt they will be properly backed. Mr. James Bagnall seconded the resolution, and trusted that at the next election we would be prepared to return two Members of liberal sentiments—be prepared to send another gentleman to support Sir James; and thereby wipe off the disgrace of the voice of Carmarthenshire being neu- tralized, as it is at present. No doubt, by a proper atten- tion to the registration of voters, such a desideratum is easily attainable. All the Resolutions were unanimously carried. The address to his Majesty has since been numerously and respectably signed, and will be forwarded for presentation in the early part of next week. IN THE CONSISTORY COURT OF LLANDAFF. The Judge's Office promoted by the Rev. Dr. Lisle, against Thomaslabourer, Thomas Williams, farmer. William Williams, farmer, Abraham Atkins, labourer, Joseph Llewellyn, mason, Evan Evans, labourer, Daniel James, blacksmith, Thomas Jenkins, labourer, William Atkins, labourer, Richard Meyrick, shoemaker, and John Miles, labourer. This was a cause of Office promoted against the party de- fendants, for forcibly entering the Church of St. Fagan's, in this county, and ringing the bells, against the will of the Rector, and at the last Court the cause came on for judgment. The Chancellor:—This suit is brought against the defendants, for having irrevalently, outrageously, and forcibly, entered into the Parish Church of St. Fagan's, and ringing the bells, contrary to the wishes of the Rector of the said parish.—The proceedings have been instituted by the Rector, and the par- ties have been cited to answer for this offence. In consequence of the citation, Articles have been given in. These Articles set forth the circumstances of the case, which have been already fully detailed, and they conclude with praying that the parties proceeded against may be canonically punished and corrected for the offences, that they may be admonished to refrain from such excesses in future, and condemned in the costs of the suit. The Articles were admitted, and a negative issue given in. Witnesses were sworn, and the usual time granted for cross in- terrogatories. On the 12th February, publication was prayed, and an intimation was made on the part of the defendants, that a defensive allegation would be put in at the ensuing Court. No defensive allegation was put in, and it was then decreed, that all Acts were to be propounded, and the cause concluded the ensuing Court; and on the 26th of March, the cause was set down for information and sentence. As no cross-interroga- tories have been attempted, nor any defensive allegation put in by the parties who gave a negative issue, the Court can only conclude, that the defendants abide by that proceeding, being perhaps willing to leave the matter in the hands of the Court, from an impression that they have not committed any offence against the laws. And yet, the opinion distinctly given by the Court, previous to the admission of the Articles, might have secured the defendants from such an error. The Court, in the exercise of its duty, repeatedly declared the articles to be ad- missible, and warned the defendants of the consequence in the event of their being proved. Such is the constant practice of the Courts above, which we are bound, as far as we can, to follow: the intimation made by the Judge often leads to a termination of the proceedings, and thus saves much loss of time and expense. I have carefully examined all the docu- ments and depositions in this cause. No doubt has ever arisen in my mind as to the matters charged being of Ecclesiastical cognizance and jurisdiction. In respect to the forcibly break- ing open the Church, and entering therein without the per- mission of the Minister and Wardens, when it is not open for Divine Service, nothing seems more clear than that such con- duct should be amenable to the Ecclesiastical Laws. Surely, this is at least as much an offence of Ecclesiastical jurisdiction as the pulling down a tomb-stone in a church-yard, the breaking open a door into it, and many other matters which are noticed in the Courts Christian, though there may be no express canon or statute on the particular subject Yet, in questions of this kind, proceedings are instituted in the Eccles- iastical Court, and in the form of Articles, as for an offence, which is in some measure analagous to an indictment at Common Law for a misdemeanor, when there is no special statutory enactment on which to found the proceedings. In the Consistory Court of London, 1786, there is a case reported of Cade against Newnham. Here a party was articled against tor opening a door into a church-yard. An appearance was given under protest to the jurisdiction, the protest was over- ruled, and the suit proceeded in the usual form. In Burdin and Edwards v. Callcott, 1788, Articles were exhibited for erecting a tomb-stone, and for pulling down another, in Kennington Churcli-yard. The Court said. It was corn. nrittftfgä nriisimce in the church-yard." Sir William Scott urged the. two trespasses as the ground of the proceeding There has been" (said he) two trespasses in this church-yard, which is a consecrated spot, entitled to public protection, and in which nothing should be done but under the direction of public authority. It is of public importance that these public rights should be protected." In the cause of Jarrett v. Steele, before Sir John Nicholl, in the Arches, the suit was brought for having forcibly entered the Church of Wellington, &c. Here the party gave a negative issue, which was afterwards with- drawn and an affirmative issue given. The Learned Judge stated that the party had acted wisely in so doing, adding that the facts as alleged were most reprehensible, and much aggra- vated by having been done after repeated admonitions from the Minister to forbear. Steele was admonished and con- demned in the costs. All persons ought to understand," said the Learned Judge, "that the sacred edifice of the Church is under the protection of the Ecclesiastical Laws, as they are administered in these Courts; that the possession of the Church is in the Minister and the Churchwardens, and that no person has a right to enter it when it is not open for divine service, except with their permission and under their authority." These instances appear not only to furnish analogous matter to the question before the Court, but the offences charged in the suit before us are of a grosser and more aggravated nature than those which I have detailed. The Court has thought it expedient to dwell in some degree on this preliminary point, though on the present occasion it has treated this violent con- duct as rather connected with the ringing of the bells than as a question of separate consideration. Believing it to be essen- tially an Ecclesiastical Offence in itself, the Court has princi- pally borne it m mmd as initiatory to and aggravating the other offence charged. The 88th canon directs that the btlls shall not be rung, either superstitiouslv on occasions stated in the canon, or a £ any other times, without good cause, to be al- lowed by the Minister of the place and by the Churchwardens." The ringing of the Church bells, therefore, without the con- sent of the Minister and the Churchwardens, is clearly an offence against the 88th canon. In the case of the Rev. Mr Western v. Watkins, a case reported in the Arches, the office of the Judge was promoted against Watkins, for having forcibly entered the belfry of the parish church contrary to the wishes of the Rector, and ringing the bells. A citation was taken out—the party defendant appeared—alleged the consent of the Wardens, but admitted he was wrong, was ready to ask pardon, and promised not again to offend. Again, some of oar highest authorities have declared that the consent of the Minister, whether Incumbent or Curate, is necessary to authorize the ringing. The consent of either, or both, the Churchwardens, without the Minister, is not sufficient. If the two Wardens differ, the consent of the Minister and one was held to be enough. The consent of both without the Minister would not justify the ringing. The custody of the key of the belfry was also held of right to be in the Minister nor has it ever been doubted that he has the freehold of the Church, and has a special right in it, and that as Minister it is his special duty to take care of it. The Chancellor here with great minuteness recapitulated the evidence which had been previously read, and largely commented on the whole, and concluded a judgment, which took more than two hours to deliver, to this effect:—After taking this general and particular view of tlis whole ease, and the law as connected with it, it seems impossible for any person to deny that the offence imputed to these defendants is brought home to them severally, by evidence the most direct, clear, and indisputable. The Court laments ex- tremely to have observed, on the part of the defendants, a tendency to outrageous violence, and insult, and riot, and a determination to persist in their illegal and tumultuous pro- ceedings, in spite of all the remonstrances of the Incumbent himself, and of the several messengers whom, with much propriety and forbearance, he sent to entreat the parties to desist from their violence and disorder. It is not for the Court to enter minutely into the question of bell-ringing— under what circumstances it may fairly be permitted,0or when it may with propriety be refused. The Court does not sit to make laws, but to administer the laws. This, however, the Court does not hesitate to declare, that if the ringing of andexcess*1 T/ifpharti.c,llar ,Place frequently led to violence and excess—it it has been characterized by drunkenness, and especially by drunkenness in the House of God-if it has been observed to lead to any injury of the sacred edifice, to its defilement or profanation, and cannot be kept within the limits of decent and temperate recreation-then, indeed, must every person desire that a due restraint should be im- posed nor can the measure of that restraint be better de- termined than by the Minister of the parish, to whose hands that trust has been committed by the law. The Court is further desirous of expressing its opinion, that in the present instance, the Minister has acted with exemplary forbearance; that having tried conciliatory measures, which were only met with insult and defiance, he had no other alternative left but an appeal to the law. To protect that Minister in the just exercise of his rights, and to repress such offences for the future, the sentence of the Court against the defen- dants is, that (with the exception of Daniel James), they be suspended ab ingressu Ecclesiae for three weeks. The Court desirous of marking its opinion of the more aggravated mis- conduct of the said Daniel James, by suspending him ab ingressu Ecclesiae for one month. I admonish all the par- ties to refrain from the like offence for the future, and I condemn them severally in the costs of the suit. I desire also, that it may be notified in the Church of St. Fagan's, that the parties have been so suspended, so monished against such excesses in future, and so condemned in the costs. COURT OF KING'S BENCH, April 23.—T. and G. Hand lock v. the Hon. R. F. Grevitte.—Mr. Evans moved in this case for a rule to shew cause why the verdict should not be set aside, as excessive, unless the plaintiffs would consent to a fair abatement. This cause was tried before Mr. Justice Williams at the last Assizes for Pembrokeshire, and the verdict given for the plaintiffs, damages 3601. The plaintiffs were brothers and attorneys at Cardigan. The defendant was twice a candidate in 1831, to represent the county of Pembroke in Parliament, and the plaintiffs were engaged on his side, and brought their action for the amount of the bill they made out and delivered to the defendant. In the opinion of the defendant that bill was excessive in its charges, and 1401. was paid into Court, but the Jury gave a verdict for 3601., striking off 301. The Learned Counsel called the attention of the Court to the items of charge of which the bill was made up. The plaintiffs were engaged during fifteen days in the election of May, 1831, and nine days in September of the same year, and for that thev had made out this enormous bill. The first item in the bill was a retaining fee for each, to which, he contended, they were not entitled. The retainer was contained in a letter written by Mr. Evans, of Haverfordwest, expressing a desire to re- tain the services of the plaintiffs, and adding, I hope we shall have your interest." In consequence of that expres- sion the plaintiffs contended they were authorised to can- vass for the defendant, and they accordingly charged five days' canvassing, at three guineas a day. During the poll they charged five guineas a day each, which the Learned Counsel submitted was too much, and that there was no precedent or fixed standard for such a charge. For their retaining fee they charged 51. 5s. each.—Lord Abinger: I have heard of an attorney charging 500 guineas as his re- taining fee.-(A laugh.)— Mr. Evans: The two plaintiffs went together from Cardigan to Haverfordwest. Thev made two days of the journey, and put down twenty-four guineas to the defendant for services so rendered. During the polling the chief services rendered by the plaintiff were, that one of them, Thomas, acted as clerk in a room set apart for that purpose; and the other, George, went up to the poll at the head of the defendant's voters.-Lord Abinger: That you know, Mr. Evans, is a post of great danger at some elections. It is a great pity that the par- ties cannot settle the value of services rendered upon such occasions as those, for neither Judge nor Jury are perfectly competent to the task.-The rule was finally settled for a new trial on payment of costs, unless the plaintiff consented to a deduction, or agreed to refer. COURT OF EXCHEQUER, April 24.-Evans v. Davies.- Mr. Chilton moved on behalf of the defendant in this case, for a rule to shew cause why the verdict obtained by the plaintiff should not be set aside. The trial to k place at the late Carmarthen Assizes before Mr. Justice Williams. The Learned Gentlemen stated the facts of the case from an affidavit; they were these. The action was in Court so long ago as the Spring Assizes of 1833, when a verdict was taken by consent for the plaintiff, subject to an award. The defendant was at all times ready to proceed before the ar- bitrator, but the plaintiff had not thought it proper to go on but on two occasions had served the defendant with fresh notice of trial. On the 2d of March last the defendant returned home, and found a new notice laying for him lie then went to the plaintiff's attorney and told him that he was even then willing to go on with the case before an arbitrator; but if he went into Court it must be at his peril. In fact there were now two verdicts upon the same record. -Rule granted. MANCHESTER, OCT. 14. GENTLEMEN,—I am about to communicate a case (where- in you are interested of very singular occurrence!—My youngest daughter, aged 14, is very fond of reading, and Tales ot Diablerie (as I think they are styled) particularly attract her attention. A book of such description, • The Invisible World Discovered," having fallen into her hands, she became so impressed with su- perstition, as to be afraid of even being left alone. This foolish dread being well known to her brother, he provided himself with a hideous looking mask, and, wrapping a white sheet round him, entered his sister's bed room and frightened her to such a degree, that the results were really alarming one fainting fit succeeded another, her hair changed from black to grey, and her fine head of hair entirely wasted away. This circumstance happened about six months ago, when, on the recommendation of a medical gen- tleman, I resorted to your MACASSAR OIL, which, by constant application, has happily succeeded in restoring my daughter's hair to its former laxuriancy and colour, with considerable im- provement. For obvious reasons, I am averse to the publication of. m.y nan,e_ (which, however, the gentleman to whom I entrust this letter will give), and, with that exception only, you are at liberty to make known the circumstances in what manner you think most expedient for the benefit of others. It is with great pleasure I give the present testimony of the merits of your IN- COMPARABLE MACASSAR OIL (which no family ought to be be without), and I shall not omit any opportunity of furthering your interests, hy confirming the superiority of your Maccassar as a restorative of the Hair. I remain, Gentlemen, Your grateful and obliged humble Servant, E (j To Messrs. Rowland and Son, 20, Hatton Garden.
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ERRATUM. In Mr. Reitwood's speech at ihe County Meeting at Pyte last week, tor.•nwmlw of the Society of F.ienrts, l.e ously objected to a Ministry altogether, whether of the Church of Eng. M?ni'.tryaaUogt:lierj" &c' "Pernio,,sly objected to npaid
JTHE COUNTY MEETING AT PYLE.'
THE COUNTY MEETING AT PYLE. To the EDITOR of The CAMBRIAN. Sm,-1 live in the midland portion of our mountain dis- trict, and am, in common with several of my agricultural friends in the habit of receiving your journal, as also our other provin- cial paper, in the early part of the week. This week it arrived on Tuesday (having been kept longer than usual by our town friends, who ore first readers), when I saw, to iny astonishment that a County Meeting, affecting closely the interests of all classes' was then being held at Pyle Inn. I was anxious, as were several of my agricultural friends, to be present at that Meeting, but no exertion, however great, could by possibility have conveyed us there in time. May I take the liberty, Sir, of inqniring, whether it is customary to hold meetings of such importance—meetings never convened excepting on great and weighty occasions-on so snort a notice ? I do not wisli to call in question here the result of that meeting, nor will I express iny own Opinion on the par- poses it had in view, but I merely ask, why so short a period as three days should!,e altowedto suffice as full notice to all portions and to all cltisses of the Freeholders and others voters of G'Jmoraan ? I am myself, Sir, a plain man, a sincere member of the Church Establishment, and one who wishes to preserve from iniurv or destruction the Institutions of my country, but, at the same time 1 rr 'dos,ed for »»«n^u>taJSbhuS rules of fair dealing, and uncontaminated by motives of subter- fuge or faction. I wish the expression of the free and unbiassed opinions of my countrymen, on the serious charges brought against the Irish Church Establishment, to he fairly a°nd pubj £ %ea but I would deny to arbitrary nower, whether by threat or favour the marshaling of votes Cor the support of party views. Pro- fessing these opinions, Sir, may I again trespass upon voar at- tention and ask, whether it be true, that the parishes of Aberdare Neath, Merthvr-Mawr, and others, were actively and privatelv canvassed, under the cry of (< No Popery and the Freeholders requested to go down to Pyle and vote lor the opinions oT certain parties, and that, long before the notice of the intended meeting was regularly given to the public ? I will be plain, Sir, and in giving the opinions of several of iny respectable, and at present highly excited countrymen, will ask the following questions and have to plead the great public importance of the accusation as my apology for introducing to your notice the names of private in- dividuals;— Is it true iliat the parish of Aberdare was canvassed by Mr Rrncp and a party i.idnced to go to the Meetiiijnn.Ier the terrors ot Catholicism in power, anil the Protestant religioni abolished tVom our institutions' Is it true that the Estates of Sir John Nicholl, and its neighbourhood, were actively and secretly prerambulateil, and the tenants desire) to be in readiness to vote for the Adflress proposed by the Chnrch party f Is it true that the tenantry of the Guoll Estate were marshalled for the same purpose, aud subsequently prooded with a dinner at Aberavon, as the price of their tacit submission, and at the expense of their landlord ? Is it trne that the same plan was proposed to, and adopted by, Mr. Jenkins, of Lanharran, and were hss tenants and friends provided willi dinners at Bridgend. Is it a fact that the Address to the Sheriff, requiring his call of this Meeting, was closely kept until given to the papers; and whe-n eiven, had amongst u» Mgnaturei strangers to our land, servile followers, and uncertificated Bankrupts? If so, then, indeed, have our County Meetings ceased to be the fair medium for the expression of county opinion, and taking in its slead the strong semblance of factious controversy- serve but to embroil our local districts in endless warfare while they identify the Ministers of our holy religion with the partizans of of political contentions. I am, Sir, yours very obedient, Ystradyvodog, April 23 1835.^ FREEHOLDER.
To the EDITOR of The CAMBRIAN.
To the EDITOR of The CAMBRIAN. SIR,-I was glad to see in your paper of last week a re- quisition (so numerously signed) to the Portreeve of this town, to call a meeting of the Electors of this Borough, to express their approbation of Mr. Vivian's Parliamentary conduct. I have no ee doubt that a large majority will declare their full approval of the unremitting and assiduous attention which Mr. Vivian has paid to his Parliamentary duties, and more particularly for supporting Lord John Russell's resolution relative to the Irish Church. I beg leave to suggest, also, that as many of the Electors are Freeholders, the sense of the meeting should be conveyed to Mr. Talbot, for his manly and independent conduct at a late meeting before his constituents. The manner in which the County-Clerical Meeting at Pyle was got up and organised, has created great disgust in the minds of all liberal men, particularly towards those, for whom it is the wish of every one to entertain feelings of respect and esteem, whose vocation and ministry are not those of political turmoil and strife. Surely, Mr. Editor, it is not becoming the teachers of religion to el be the first to come forward and declare their opposition to a resolution passed by the Representatives of the country, and sanctioned by the King and his Ministers! Should those whose office it is to promote order and inculcate obedience, shew such eagerness to sow dissention, and to create a factious (but, I trust, futile) opposition, in order to impede and embarrass the Govern- ment of the country ? And what has occasioned such an extra- ordinary manifestation of political feeling? A resolution passed by the great Council of the nation,—" That after ample provision shall be made for the Protestant Clergy of Ireland, the surplus arising from Church property shall be applied to the moral and religious education of all classes without distinction of sect or party." Ought this to be opposed by men whose very existence is devoted to these objects ? If educating the poor and ignorant in the several duties that belong to a Christiau are not Protestant purposes, I have hitherto entertained very erroneous ideas of the religion of my country. This measure, so long delayed and so eminently calculated to disseminate and promote that Christian charity which we ought to feel towards each other, and founded on principles of justice and humanity, is objected to by the Pro- testant Clergy because they do not Tike the children of Catholic and Protestant parents to be educated together. This is not only uncharitable, but impolitic; for by mingling and associating toge- ther, those feelings of aversion (whicfi are now, unfortunately, fostered by that broad line of distinction which is drawn between them) would be gradually softened, and in time entirely disap- pear. Shall seven millions of our fellow-creatures be deprived of the advantages of education because they differ from us in reli- gious tenets ? I am no advocate of the Catholic religion, but I am a strong-advocate for the most perfect freedom in religions opinion, not doubting that the one which is most pure and perfect will in the end be firmly established over all others. It those who differ from us are in error, the way to convince them is not by violence and oppression, but by acts of kindness and concilia- tion, and endeavouring to enlighten their minds. Locke says— "That no Government can be justified in punishing a subject, unless it shall have taken care that he be instructed." In your paper of last week, you notice an address to the King, said to have been forwarded by the Gentry and Inhabitants of Swansea, expressive of regret at the resignation of the late Ministry, &c. I believe the majority of the inhabitants never heard of it till they saw it noticed in your columns. Where the meeting was held and the address signed is a secret known only to themselves. This paltry and mean attempt to smuggle the opinions and sentiments of the inhabitants of this town must be publicly contradicted and disavowed. The present Government will, I hope, meet with the support of all genuine and sincere Reformers. Sir John Hobbouse says, they expect the most bitter and determined opposition, but that they rely firmly npon the support of the People., and upon them aloce. If they are true to themselves, he says, he has no fear of carrying those important measures of Reform to which they stand pledged. It is, there- fore, the duty of every friend of the present Government to de- clare that they will support them. If you have room for these remarks in the columns of your independent journal, you will oblige Swansea, April 29,1835. AN OLD REFORMER.
ON THE MALT TAX.
[At the request of an influential and intelligent Correspondent, we give insertion to the following interesting letter (from the Mark- lane Express), on the subject of the Malt Tax; attributed to the pen of Mr. Evan David, of Itadyr, in this county.] ON THE MALT TAX. Glamorganshire, March 31, 1835. MR. EDITOR,—There are few recent instances in which the eloquence of a single speech has produced so great an effect on the opinions of the community, upon any public measure, as the speech of Sir Robert Peel, in the House of Commons, on the Marquis of Chandos's Motion for the repeal of the above tax. We now find many warm supporters of the agricultural interest, Whigs, as well as Tories, appealing to that speech to justify their abandonment of former convictions. The public press alsõ, with few exceptions, are equally load, either in eulogising it, as proving the policy in the tax, or in impugning the motives of those who continue to adhere to their former opinions and still believe that the agriculturists, and the labouring classes, have the strongest claims for its repeal. Being one of the former, whom the speech of the Right Hon. Baronet has failed to convince, and observing that you also remain firm to former convictions on the same Doinr I have taken the liberty of troubling you with the following ob- servations on the subject. I have now before me a revised copy of that speech, in a separate pamphlet, and much as I admire the ingenuity of its arrangement, and the ability displayed in it yet Sir, I trust I shall be able to prove that a great portion of its most important arguments rest on fallacious grounds. Let me premise, Sir, that although I differ with the Right Hon Baronet on this question yet I entertain a very high opinion of his sp.endid talents and whether the Malt Tax is repealed or not, I consider his great knowledge and experience in the affairs of this nation eminently qualify him, with the guidance and as- sistance of a Reformed Parliament, to occupy his present di«»;-i guished situation. In the first place, T find that great stress is laid on the impropriety 01 brlngmg this question forward previous to the Minister's finan- ciai statement; also, because" theNoble Marquis had called upon the House to exclude the consideration of every other inte-est Roes not his Majesty, in his speech, 1 would ask, dep!orefhe distress of the Agriculturists and trusts that the burdens which now unequally press upon them will be lightened. In the simp manner did the King's speech of last vear deplqre this distress no reference being made in either ot tbem to the distress of aný other interest. Now, Sir. we all know the result of patientlv waiting last year, for these financial statements, which was fhV. repeal of the house tax. As I cannot for one moment donhl ihp sincerity of those speeches from the Throne, and believing that the subjects referred to in them are intended for the consideration of Parliament, the Noble Marquis must have been fully justified ID taktng this interest into consideration to the exclusion of others ■ and, if this tax ought to be repealed, the sooner it was determined upon the better, to afford the Minister time for finding a substitute before h.s financial statement was framed. 8 «o«uiBie But the main grounds upon which the worthy Baronet appears But the main grounds upon which the worthy Baronet appears to rest his case, are the altered habits, and new tastes of the community," in now preferring tea and gin to beer, and refers with much confidence to the increased consumption of those arti- irS'i ^e- asser,s 'hat the removal of this tax would only ulord an imaginary benefit to the farmer. In another part of his ;peech he observes. that we have no grounds to complain of be Malt Tax, for that the price of barley is higher in proportion than auy other grain, and for the last two or three years has been gradually advancing,—why then," he asks, "disturb the tax? IDel what grounds have you for hoping that barley subject to the tax being very high, and wheat subject to no tax being very low, lie removal of the tax on barley will ensure a rise in the price of t. Indeed the triumphant manner in which the Hon. Baronet referred to this point, led me almost to expect that he would have Joncluded by proposing a duty of some hundred per cent. on wheat, with the view of advancing the price of this grain also to the grower. I admit that the consumption of malt had greatlv reduced in he last century, since the tax became so high and for the past hree years is again gradually increasing, but as the worthy Ba- 'onet has carefully abstained from anv references to what I con- Jeive to be the real cause of this change, I will endeavour to sup- ply that deficiency. The habits and tastes of the lower classes, Sir, were changed by taxing that beverage, which had ever been :he boast and favourite of Englishmen, near five hundred per cent idvancing the pot or quart of beer below lid. to 6d, and 7d. vhich held forth such temptation to adulterate the article, that he community after being compelled for many years to drink the nost noxious liquor, composed of deleterious drugs, t as a sub- ititute for malt and hops. gave it up in disgust. This iniquitous iystem, and to the wants and necessities of the labouring poor he most cruel, was partially mitigated by the removal of the beer luties. Now mark the result, although the English labourer had )een thus deprived for so long a period of his native and whole- lome beverage, and had acquired a taste for tea and spirits; yet ve find bim. on the first opportunity, returning gradually to his I]d beverage, which I contend is the real cause of the increased lemand for barley ever since that tax was removed. It is true hat hitherto he has only been permitted to get the article through he medium of those sinks of iniquity, the beer shops; but had he comforts and morals of himself and family been taken all into he account, he would have been allowed to enjov it with bis meals Lt his own fire side, where only it would be to him a real blessing. In the next place, I find the rates of duty imposed upon sundry irticles of foreign production is given :(or instance, port and herry eighty-five percent.; coffee sixty-three; tea one hundred, Jtc. I grieve exceedingly to see an article, the staple produce of his country, the annual value of which to the consumer may be airly estimated at twenty millions sterling, and yielding employ. Allowing three bushels of malt to a barret of beer, the cost, if free of lutv. according to the pre-ent price of bartev. wonld be 8S follow. 3 bushels of malt, at 3s. 9d. its. 3d. lj lb. of hops, doty free is. Od. Total cost of 36 galls., or about Id. per quart I2s. 3d; tAnnnat imports of- Corctilus Indicus 154,8611 bs. Gentian Roots 175,000 lbs. Nox Vomica 218,6-24 1 be. Quassia 140 tons. ment to upwards of one hundred thousand families, placed in juxta position as an object of taxation with the produce of foreign capital, and foreign labour. What, Sir, is the growth of our own fieids, and the produce of our owu taxed labourer, not to have some preference in our own markets over the vineyards of Spain and Portugal, and the tea gardens of China? lUllst we ever con- tinue to bow the knee to the despots of those countries for leave to expend our millions sterling in the purobase of their commo- dities to supplant the skill and industry of our own husbandmen? The average rate of duty on the two latter articles, selected no doubt as the highest of those consumed by the lower orders, is eighty-one per cent., while the tax and restrictions on malt ad- vance it upwards of one hundred per cent., and in beer shops, where those orders can get it, it is much more. Sir R. Peel ad- mits that prior to the taxing of this article, when the population was only six millions, there were six millions of barrels of beer consumed, and that at present there were only eight millions of barrels consumed with a population of upwards of 14,000,000 but the decrease in the quantity of malt made is now below half its former proportions. From the experience we have had of the removal of the beer duties, we have a right to calculate that if the tax and restrictions on making maltwere removed, the consnmpiion would shortly increase one-third, or 1,666,000 qrs., which at 30s. a quarter for the barley, would amount to two and a half millions sterling. At the present price of corn, about two-fifths of its valoe is composed of labour, consequently there is now lost to the English labourer one million sterling annually, through the ope- ration of this tax while our poor-rates are heavily burthened with the maintenance of a good portion of them in idleness, or in trans- porting them to some distant part of the globe as emigrants. The new lite and confidence which would be imparted to the drooping cultivators of our own soil, by an increased annual demand for their produce of two and a half millions sterling, would soon be beneficially felt by other classes. But, says Sir Robert Peel in his pamphlet, it is only a matterof prophecy, and of course un- certainly, mat any advantages will accrue to the agriculturists by repealing this tax. It is not prophecy, Sir, but fact, that since the beer duties were repealed, the consumption has in- creased more than it did in the previous one hundred years, and up to the 19th ult. appears to be at the rate of one icillion of quar- ters annually, which, at 30s. a quarter, is a present benefit to the growers of one and a half millions sterling for the barley. It is also a fact, admitted in this pamphlet, that the effect of lowering the duty on spirits last year in Ireland, has already increased the con- sumption 1,099,000 gallons, which forcibly confirms the prophecy that reducing the cost of an article of such universal necessity as beer, one half would greatly increase the consumption of it Again, page 30, the Hon. Baronet states that the average consamptioD of beer on a faim or three hundred acres, is one hundred hogsheads annually, or one hundred and fifty barrels. The present cost at three bushels to the barrel is 24s. 9d., but if the duty on malt, and also on hops, were repealed, it would only be 12s 3d., saving on each barrel 12s. 6d., or 6s. an acre on the whole occupation. Now, Sir, I humbly conceive that this also is not uncertainty, but deduced fairly from his own statements, and is a degree of relief to the farmers which is not to be sneered at in these times; yet, this is not all, for if the consumption, and consequently the growth of barley, increased one-third, the cultivation of other grain must diminish, which would shortly improve its price. On a mixed p I farm of three hundred acres of arable and pasture, one hundred would be under corn, and if it averaged twenty-eight bushels per acre, an advance of Is. a bushel would amount to 1401. per ann. It is a very erroneous idea of the Hon. Gentleman, to suppose that any advantage arising from the removal of the tax would be con- fined long to only a small portion of our cultivators. The old adage. Sir, down corn, down horn, and vice versa, never fails to be verified, temporary derangements in the relative value of dif- ferent kinds of agricultural prodace frequently takes place from increased demand, or deficient crops of some grain, or severe losses of stock, but in a few years prices are again adjusted- witness the present reaction in the value of sheep. Shortly before the beer duties were removed, barley did not realise half the price of wheat, and an increased growth of the latter ensued. The practical experience of thirty years as an agriculturalist, con- vinces me that within two years hence, unless the malt tax is re- pealed, barley would be reduced to its proper proportion to wheat, for I already observe numerous instances of land sown with bar- ley instead of spring wheat. These proportions are. that the latter should be double the price of the former, barley would conse- quently be only 2s. Gd. a bushel at present. The removal of the beer duties has therefore advanced the price Is. a bushel. The removal of this tax would also tend more than any other measure to bring back the farm servant under the roof of his master and as to the supposed difficulty of labourers brewing at home, a daily allowance might easily be obtained from the employer according to the existing practice in cyder counties. Let the candid reader examine these facts, and I imagine he will acknowledge that it does not require the spirit of prophecy to foretell, that the agri- culturist. and the working classes, would derive immediate and substantial benefits from the removal of the malt tax. I do not mean to contend, that it is the only cause of our distress, nor that the removal of it would be the panacea for all our difficulties. A great portion of the mischief, may, I believe, be tr. ced to our monetary system but this grievance is not confined exclusively to the agriculturist. Another cause is the facilities now afforded to Ireland to inundate us with her untaxed produce, and her starving population. But a revision of both these measures, although as absolutely necessary, would be slow in their operation for relieving the acknowledged distress, and the pressing de- mands of the poor occupiers for immediate relief. With respect to the reduced quantity of malt made in 1816 and 1817, it may I believe be satisfactorily accounted for in the first place, by the extreme misery experienced by the lower orders in those years for want of employmenl, hut more especially by the wet harvest of 1816, which rendered at least one-half the barley crop totally unfit for malting, one of the worst harvesls known in England during the last century, good malting barley advancing in value 100 per cent., increasing the price of malt considerably more than the reduction in duty. Again, in 1819, and 1820, the crops were above an average, excellent in qualify, and low in price; and, as a natural consequence, an increased quantity of malt was made. The total burden of this tax upon the community is next ad- verted to, which he makes out in the same plausible manner to be only a trifle beyond the duty paid. Now, instead of going to Mark-lane to find out the price of a choice sample of Chevalier barley, probably for seed, I will appeal to the experience of every grower of corn, and every maltster in this part of the kingdom, whether they have averaged more than 3s. 8d. for barley in the last two years, and if malt has not averaged in the same period 7s. 8d. to 8s.? The real state of this account would consequently stand as follows jP. 5,000,000 qrs. of malt, at 64s 16,000,000 Increased price of beer at the ale and beer-shop;, from ) rn„ lj'.l. to 5d. a pot, the effect of the malt tax .3 *,j00,000 506 000 9,000,000 qrs. of malt free of duty, at 30s 7,500,000 Totatimpnetnponthecomtnnuity £ 10(00,080 wnicti is cijieliy paid by the labouring classes for what I contend to be an article of necessity. Who that is possessed of the com- mon feelings of nature, will deny the necessity of some nourishing beverage, to allay the thirst of those whose hard lot it is to toil from morn to niylit, or from sun-set to sun-rise, in the mines and iron-works in this county, generally in a temperature of 120° or upwards? Or show me the man who has no pity for the poor peasant, exposed to the scorching rays of a summer's sun, while exerting his whole strength for 14 or 15 hours a-day in cutting down the produce of oar fields, and is compelled by this cruel tax to quench his thirst in the adjoining ditch, which it is my lot con- tinnally to witness, Even in the absence of any other motive, let the odium be what it maj', I shall on these grounds atone continue to advocate the repeal of the Malt Tax. The ingenuity of the Honourable Baronet is next displayed in attempting to make it appear that this Malt Tax, with all its bonds, duties, penalties, restrictions, &c., is the most salutary and efficacious method that can possibly be devised for keeping the trade free. That the removal of these restrictions, and the reduction in the value of malt, from 64s. to 30s., would afford such positive advantages to the great capitalist, that we should see no more of small maltsters with limited means but that the growers of barley would then be entirely at the mercy of the former, for he states, that at present there is 3,0»0 00il. of the public money applied as so much additional capital in the pur- chase of barley." Who ever heard of a maltster getting money from the treasury to buy barley? It is true that the payment of the duty is not required at the time of making the malt, provided ample security by bonds is given, and a few weeks' credit is thus obtained, but nothing else. As the Right Hon. Baronet claims so much credit to the Government for their liberality to the maltster on this head, let us compare it with that shown to the importer of any foreign commodity. In the latter case the article is allowed to remain in warehouse for any length of time, and is regularly bought and sold in the market before the dutv is demanded which is not done until the article is taken out for consumption! The maltster, on the contrary, when the sitting day arrives, has no mercy shown him, and whether be has been able to dispose of a single bushel of his malt or not, the duty must be paid. I must now come to the general summing up of the Honourable Gentleman, which he does in the most pathetic strain, and in the language of the most serious alarmist, such as Shall we main- tain the public honour,—the disgraceful course of a deficient revenue,—the suspension of payments,— breach of the national engagements," and that those who reject his advice must be responsible for all the consequences of so rash and unwise a de- cision," &c., and that great bug-bear, the bare mention of which, even to a Reformed Parliament, produces such gloomy reflections and such consternation even amongst the most refractory members, that in the hands of a skilful Minister it is found to be a dreadful weapon, and on several former discussions on the impolicy of the Malt Tax, when the measure had been carried by sound reasoning, no sooner were the words Property Tax" mentioned, than the hustings-repealers of this tax immediately viewed the matter in a different light. In his ironical manner, he "congratulates you Gentlemen of the Landed Interest on finding yourselves relieved from the pressure of the Malt Tax, and falling upon a good com- fortable Property Tax." As one of that body, Sir, who would be affected in some little degree should that prospect be realized, I would cheerfully accept his congratulations, being fully persuaded that a Property Tax would be a far more just tax towards the Landed Interest than this Malt Tax, for the injurious effects of the latter are almost exclusively felt by them and its removal wonld, according to the foregoing calculations, release the land from a heavy and most unfair pressure, to the amount of 8s. or IOs. an acre on all farms of the immediate benefit to the tenants, and on general principles must be a deduction from rent. Whereas a Property Tax of, say 5 per cent, which would yield a much larger revenue than is now derived from malt, would not affect the land Is. an acre and would fall equally on all property on houses, public buildings, manufactories, mines, collieries, tithes, funded property, canals, railroads, docks, tolls, shipping. &c. &c., which are affected only in a very slight degree by the duty on malt. If the Gentlemen of the Landed Interest" could be brought to view this subject in its proper light, they would not hesitate one moment in deciding in favour of a Property Tax. The pressure of direct and indirect taxation on the industrious classes, though nominally to an infinitely greater amount, was comparatively unknown during the operation of the Bank Restric- tion Act. But now, with a metallic currency, and the low prices which neoessarilv accompany it, it is become intolerable. Our present system of indirect taxation enters so largely into the cost of production a* to be highly prejudicial to the British manufac- turer for the foreign market. It is generally admitted, that at least one-fourth part of the wages of labour is absorbed bv tax ation, every article, the produce of labour, must therefore be en- hanced in value in that proportion thus every manufacturer or 1,0001' a"Jear t0 h,s Jrorkmen, pays 7501. for labour, and i50l. for his men's taxes. Indirect taxation panperizes a large portion of the community by enhancing the value of those articles they are most in need of, and again by fettering their em- ployers deprives them of employment. Parochial burdens and the charges of tradesmen and mechanics are ail enhanced a third or foarth by the same means. Out of the eight millions poor- rates, at least two millions of it goes to Government. From the effects of this system of taxation we find a large portion of our aristocracy escape altogether by residing in foreign countries. Two-thirds of our present taxes are required to discharge the interest of the debt, which was chiefly contracted during the war to protect the property, not the industry, of the country, certainly not the industry of the present day, which then had no existence. It is therefore only just that a portion of this burden should be directly levied on ihe former. Let skill, industry, and labour, be released from the trammels of taxation] and they would soon enhance the value of property beyond the amount of a moderate tax on it The raw produce of the earth, whether the soil on the surface, or the mineral beneath, is of little worth to the owner without the application of the skill, capital, and labour of the productive classes, and the imposition of taxes on the latter, in an undue proportion, while at the same time a collateral measure is secretly but steadily reducing the market price of their produce, will in the first place effect their destruc- tion, and in the next reduce the property of the former to a very low value. I am, Sir, yonrs, &c. CLMRO, I Copper Ore sold at Swansea, April 29, 1835. MINES. TWENTY-OJiE CWTS. PURCHASERS. PR [CI. Anglesey (burnt) 12S P. Grenfel) aud Sons £ 2 16 0 Ditto (ditto).. 1~0 Ditto i 11 0 Ditto (raw) 112 P. Urenfell *nd Sons, Crown Co., and n- ,u v S'ms, Drnce, and Co. 1 12 0 Ditto (burnt)*. 84 Crown Copper Co. 2 12 O Ditto (raw) fi8 Ditto 2 8 0 Ditto (prtcip.) 55 Ntvill, Sims, Drnee, and Co. and Benson, Logan. and Co 6 5 6 Ditto (burnt).. 38 P. Greufcll and Sons, Crown Co., and Nevlll, Sims, Druce, and Co. 2 7 6 Ditto (raw) 25 Ditto, ditto, and ditto 1 18 0 Cronebaiie 66 Benson, Logan, and Co. 2 n 6 Dilt0 4-1 Ditto 3 2 « Ditt0 37 Crown Copper Co. .430 Ditto 13 Ditto ..426 Tigrony.OtNevitt.Sims.Drnce.andCo. 3 6 0 Ballymurtsgh 67 P. Orenfell and Sons, and Nevill, Sims, r, Droce, and Co 2 9 6 Ditto 64 P. Grenfell and Sons 4 4 6 Ditto. 58 Ditto 4 4 1! Cliili 75 Vivian and Sons 23 6 6 Ditto ,.67 Ditto 24 15 O Ditto.. in Ditto 20 It 6 Connorree 43 Crown Cooper Co.. 7 i « Dhto Nevill, Shr £ Druce, and Co.756 Ditto 34 Crown Copper Co. 3 IT 0 y & Co. and P. Grenfell & Sons 5 16 6 ALihies ]U4 W illiams, Foster, & Co., and G. Wildes <iU(l Co. «• v I* o A Dandycon.be 51 Nevill, Sims, Drice, 'and Co., and — Ben«on, Loean, and Co.. I 11 « Ditto (floor) 24 Nevill, Sims, Druce, and Co. *15 6 Drwsj-coed 50 Croun Copper Co. r « « I (anberris 50 P. Grenfell and Sons 3 9 0 Stowcragjj 21 Ditto j« o « Ditto 18 Freeman and Co 13 18 6 1763
Family Notices
I MARRIED. On the 11th ult. at Cheltenham, by the Rev. George Traherno Frederick Parry, Esq. Ir.te of the 17th regiment of Lancers to blizalieth Margaret, youngest daughter of John Gilbert Royds, fcsq.. formerly of Clemenston, in this county. On the 19th ult., at Cowbridge, by the Rev. Owen Jenkins Mr James Reynolds to Miss E. Hiscocks, both of the above place. On the x2d olt., Mr. Richard Jones, of the White Horse Twyn-yr-odiii, to Margaret, the eldest daughter of Mr. John Richards, of the Crown-Inn, Merthyr Tydfii. ni> 11 l'le u' at k'a'iddarog Church, by the Rev. Mr. Powell Charles Jones, Esq. of Blyae, to Elizabeth, eldest daughter of the late Mr. David Morgans, of Glan'rynys, Carinar henshire On the 23d ult. at Boulston, near Haverfordwest, by the Rev ) a.t.ts Harries> Vicar of Prendergast, Mr. Skitterv, of Sheo- ton Mallett, Somersetshire, to Harrielte, third daughter of the late Mr. John Fawke, of the Flights, Herefordshire. T u!t" at KinS,on' the Rev- L. P. Jones, Vicar of L anbadarn awr, Radnorshire, to Jane, youngest daughter of the late E. Davies, Esq. ot Baynicholas, in that county, ° DIED. On the 27th nit., at her residence in Gower-street, Swansea, at the auvai.oid age of 88, Mrs. Margaret Hughes, relict of the late Edward Hugbes, Esq. of the said town. On the 23d ult., at Ely, near Cardiff, Mr. Richard Davies, aged 51 years, third son of the late Rev. Thomas Davies, Rector of Wenroe, in this counly. On the 8th ult., at Neath, after three da3's' iHness, Miss Jane Griffiths, aged 24 years She was of a most amiab e disposition and smcerelj regretted by all who knew her aisposition. On the 27th ult., aged 28, after a protracted i ln:ss, borne with ? Wb res' £ '!all,on' Ann, wife of Mr. Wm. Rees, mercer, of If Tl a, e'dfs da«ghter of W.D. Davies, Esq. Comptroller ^Ut f i ?0rt* Her mi,d aDd amiable disposition endeared her to her relatives and friends, by whom her early- death is much regretted. J Yrsterday (Thursday), at Carmarthen, after a long illness, in the prime of life M.or.oe, second son of Mr. James Bnfwn, se tioolniaster, of that town, deservedly regretted by his relations and friends. Ha?e^rdS.U,t' age<1 75' T00ker' °f CIeth' LodSe> On the 12d ult. at Pembroke, in the prime of life, after a pro- tracted illness, borne with Christian fortitude, William eldest son of Mr. Eynon, of the Stag, in that town. r»i?n-the }}>h J0'1- t8.1 Aherystwith, of a rapid decline, Miss Phillips, eldest daughter of Owen Phillips, Esq. surgeon. Lately, in Oxford-street, London, in the 27th year of his age, n ™eSi* tai'°.r at,d draper, second son of Mr. J. Yates, ° ,^nrh0,S'.RadDT,re-. was exemplary in the discharge of all the relative and social duties of life, and his decease is deeply regretted by his friends and relatives. On the 2ith ult. aged 58, after a very short illness, Mary, Motim°outlfr' 8 P'' shoPkeel'er, of Munnow-street, On the 12th ult aged 17, in Red Lion-square, London, after a long and painful illness, which she bore with patience and resig- nation, Jane, the beloved daughter of Mr. George Davis, late of Newport, Monmouthshire. ° On the 24th ult., aged 75, Martha, second daughter of Lewis Hoskuis, Esq. late of Peer s Court, in the county of Gloucester. She was a most amiable and highly respectable ladr, and her charitable disposition has obtained for her memory a shrine in many a grateful heart. On the 23d ult., at Clifton, the Rev. Richard Jenkvns, D. D., Master of Baliol College, Oxford, end Prebendary of Wells, to Troth on!y child of the late Grey Jermyn Grove, Esq. of Pool Hall. Salop.
SHIP NEWS.
SHIP NEWS. P 9E*-—-Priced, the Swansea Trader, Hn*t.ible; rackt t, Barrett; and Eleanor, Barren, from Briftol; Sarah, lliomas, from Liverpool; Tredeaar. Crnrkford. from Rri,!<>«._ water; rocket, from Glonce.ter; and Hinton, Browne, from n D'Wi, Walsh, from Dun-arvon, with cattle; Lovelj, Davie,, from Cork, w,t|, deals; Lord Rolls, Townsend, from Bi- defont, with timber; Favourite, Crokcr; and New Inrtortry Jenkins, from Gloucester, with rods and poles; Thorn*, an1 Snali, Jones; and nd PH- "h 'V0*? NeWP°r,t' W1lh iro1'; Gomer, D-ttfies, from Chester; .in I Edwaid and Alargaret, Jones, from Bridgewater with bricks Har andnMarvC^r,gn;n lbomn> N««h\ UVth j"ha ,S* I'^eB«'spy'^C.'>ticV"^K'"H*Mi«< rVa, Quick,'from Ux!,ri,hr; Huthy;, f ,?m' A 1 K,Hle> from Fatmonth; Earl of Ree" SevenwR^hmoud. Mackey; Flint Castle, Barns- and Conm <1 f !I Jjyi Thomas; William, Came; Anne, month'- Marv inS p'l• iT'<i! "S1". W,ck1™ Calstock, Le« is, frlm, Fly! Marviret O anf* El'^abelh, Ellis; and Dove, Hayes, from Petizaucc; He lu i 7k 'ntl"'on; St.Catherine, Nicholl, from Fowey; Pnlmintpr H ,d r "'I/r0m Cuba: Ne eide, Langtry, from Chili; ton Prirrt.S' P"r,rca't); Wellington, Barry; and WelMog- ,rh*1^d'fro[" Carnarvon, with ropper ore; Daddon, Bailey Gra- Ro,s V°n Ebri"8ton, Day; and lacker, Lowtherl from Koss, CtiepMow, Iiwin; and George, Slyde, from Combe; Ebenczer Jon. Brothers, Phillips; F.iend,, Westlake and Mary, Wes?lake fro'" Bndgewaier; hprajcombe, Marsh; Blos.-om, Hole; and Eliza' Ro,,#' PoPham,: Henry. Bishop, <er- Industry Tlicmas from'r*6* an^ At,ialia» from Glouces- Maisher, from Plymouth Dra^ke'^Banfi !| FT"' S £ "n?c j. anf'1 E"?™' Loverin*; Devonshire, Lowther p 7"' Y""f''V!; L*(1,uias> Jor.es, from Waterford; Hopeweil D>lu 'r h" E<aid ford, from Porlock Hebe, Attwool r'ie8\f1r,om Cardigan; Fame, Pnls- from Combe; Harriet, Poole Trt i? Weymouth; Edward, Brien, Sp.ay, f.om Dartmouth Comef R^h"16' ,J° CS/, from H"den, and Western Star, Evans 5ln?' f™11 Co,k Ar,el' Jersey Watcliet Trader 'el Wexford; Water Witch, Falliull, from from "Chepstow; St. John, CurrX^Vr n°n VVa,chel; V™ from Poi tcawl, all in ballast. Dnngarvou and Gibton, Jones, Safah! LWir(r;r am7F, ances^and'sara^1' LTf '° ti nrp Rn.i TTni^ n f„ ?n0 Duck, from Water ord Pa- ii!,i)ce, Best t, Union Catial, Walters-, Looe Bartlett; Industry, Lang- .ead; ;Itid for Looe Albio;, Ila,y, Two Brothers, Dicon; Tiornas Eviial Holmes; Alke, 8..uce; and Neptune, Grace, for Exeter; EndeRL-our, Rowling; 1\0 Brothers, Whealon; Two Sislers, Sp: ague; Royal George, Pope w'f|iini«n,C t 1! ri!' i e' Olive Branch, Leader; Duke of Davies, for Cardigan; Sally, Daties- and bir» ans' a',(LMinena, iras* SI, Iver. for Smjrna; Christiana, Haje Maria, Schaifer; Industrie. Sos'alh• and' Merctirins, Lchse, for Bremen. ana Ditto Cleared Outwards, the Almina, Eoss, for Halle; Elizabeth Pybes, for Dort; Henry William, Holt, for Syria; Hi-rsteliioe'smit- and Diana, Duet, for Rotterdam, with iron & tin; Margaretha Brahms' for Leer; T.ue Bine, Cargill, for Stetlin Hoffnnng, Leicht, fir Halte- Merwestroom, Stroborr; Wclvaart, Fenenga; Aurora, Hagewinkle and' Neerlands, Grnnt, for Amsterdam, with iron. Irith Inwards, the Crown, Richai l.'on, from Dublin, with sundries F! lends, Collins, from Cork, with flour Mary,Davies, from Waterford* wiili noor and oats; Robert and Mary, M'Evancy, from Dnndalk; and Sahcia, Myler, from Clare, with oats; and six vessels in ballast. Ditto Outward., Ihe Aftry Jones, Davies, for Newry; and Diana, Lloy I, for Luneack, with sundries; Sedulous, Lloyd, for Newrv• ami "Jandeo i 'T* for BehlT/wTh iron ana coal; aad eleven vessels with coals. Coasters Inwards> the Venus, Gultiford, from BricWmttr • William from^ Ciirpi"' tIt/. Marv A >, «, Brothers, Morgan Whine, Miller; John, Griffiths; l ^'even?; Jones; Frances, Powell; Frien ts, Todd; »l»rv p li!(l eamei!),Mlle"' f,om Bri9'01- h sundries; John ami i\^?no ,Va"Vi, .r0nI. Br,(1«e.water, with bricks; Matthews, Hcyts, from BriL™\ !Ln^rKn '^|S: J™e- Nnrse; and Sally, Beynon.frotn tin T^te^' UmberJ °ceau. Richards, from Penance, with block tin, Catherine, Evans; Favourite, Jones; Mary, Phitlins- and Ocean Morgans, from U'verstone T riton, Co. mack, from Whitehaven Richard, Codner from Plymouth Eleanor, Prewett, from Bristol; Carleon, Har- wood, from Carleon; Amelia, Parker; and Julia, Stnckey, from Chep- stow; William, Scudamore; and Jane, Davies, frow Newport, with iron ore; and 32 vessels in ballast. r Ditto Outwards, the Venus, Davies, for Cardigan Friends, Sully, for Bridgewatcr; Gleaner, Owens, for Gloncester; TWa^y Ann, Steven^ for Bideford; and Amity, Rogers, for Bristol, with snndries; Rochdale, m* k; .? y,5ril fc*,D,d Cl"clle9ler'H«,yl"; Ann aud Betsey, Watkins; Elizabeth and Maria, Reel; Johu and Mary, Evans; Acorn, Roberts; fcnif. P-.Me,7; ^yra' ?vaS8; ^ous, Davies; and Prince Leopold Lutte, for Liverpool; Robert, Clampitt, for Newport; Favou- rite, Copley, for Dumfries; Eliza, Griffiths,for Neath; Halcyon, Jones, for Gloucester; Saltern Rock, Mollard and Jane and Elizabeth, Evans, for London Alicia, Welsh, for Greenock; Elizabeth, Yeoman, for New- castle; Faith, Jones, for Southampton; Vine, Wiseman, for Banff; Fa- vounte, Owens, for Glasgow; Caeiieon, Harwood, for Caerleon; ami John, Eftenor, for Inverness, with iron AfalY, Hooper, for Bristol; and Squid, Fullarton, for Irvine, with iron and coal; and 23 vessels with coals. LLANBLLT.— Arrived, the Emily, Ball; and Union,Tregerthen, from Brtstol, with sundries; Bucks, Curl, from Combe, with potatoes; Active, Jennings, from St. Ives; William and Amelia, Smith, from Fowey and Nancy, M Hago, from Swansea, with copper ore; Amlwch, Griffiths; Alairparet, PrItchard; and Elizabeth, Griffiths, from Amlwch; Elizabeth and Catherine, Bassett; and Barnstaple Trader, Dalling, from Barnsta- ple; Hulda Henrietta, Jacobus, from Newry; Pegey, Hughes, from Car- °Til lender, Thomas William & Nancy, Evans; an?. V'7e.uBru er°' ™°n,j"V.ro'n Laugharne, in ballast. Sailed, the Hannah JUnderbill, lor Odessa; La Amiable Charles, 01- l^er, for Brest; and Mary Ann. Lewi,, for Isle of Man, wilb coals. Entered Outwards, Hnj:ia Henrietta, Jacobus, for Hamburgh; and Emnlons, Wellbanck, for Odessa. NswronT.-Arriwd, the Iris, Leroy, from Brest; Celine, Ertand, from Dieppe; Honora, Honey, from Rouen; and Chepstow, Hopgood, xiT-l 10 o Henderson, from Jersey, with cider; Williarn Brown, Sutlon; and George Brown, J)aw«on, from Cork with pigs and cattle; tame, YVi hams, tVom Waterford, wilh flour; Sultan, it ..r°"i y1 at"for< w,,»'cattle and pigg; United Friends, Lewis; and Nelly, Llewel yn, from Newry, with oath; Ann and Betsey .Thomas Agnes, Beynon, Bicatior;iiltl Grace, Dayment; and Fame, Beynon.from 2*rE» C' ™0.n0n.: Dtiddridge Unanimity, Rollins; Mor- RRFE:TF P' L,LO,VEI AW Anne, Giles; Friends.Hole; FmmJ RnZ £ ac""c'- Prcss Susan, Hooper; Bee, Gainey; Ne"Port Tra,1er, Jackson; Mary Ann, Roberts; Mary, Georee jJhnf^aml ?a"e,on' Harwood; Moderator, Johns; treorge, Johns, and Bristol Packet, bcott, with sundries. for Nan^ Je.IL r y V 5,°rUy' f"r Marseilles; Palmyra, GiU, PerninP and'IrU T A"bl"' for J L'Auguste Angeline, LfewluVn and « Kr<?!' nr iro" kord Oriel, Bond; Nelly, Harl<w) V Sibylt, Richards with iron and tin plates; Tredegar, Trfd M, 5 Carleon, Harwood Moderator, Johns Bristol Packet, Scott; and Maty,Coombs with, sundries and about 140 vessels with coals, u IsTOL. Coasters Entered Outwards, the Eliza, Arr, for Porthcawl; Henry, Llewellyn, for Llanelly Hero, Jones, for Carmarthen; Earl of Kingston, Richards, for Mi.lord and Haverfordwest; and James,Sewell, for 1 enby.
COUNTRY MARKETS.
COUNTRY MARKETS. SWANSEA.—Wbeat, 6s. 9d. to 78. Od. Barley, 3s. 9.1. to 4s. Od.; Oats, 2s. 4d. to 2s. 6d. per Winchester. Beef. 5d. to Gd.; Mutton, 5d. to Gd.; Veal, 5d. to 6d.: Lamb, Od. to Od.; Pork, 4d. to 5d. per lb. COWBRIDGE.—Wheat, 6s. 6d. to Os. Od.; Barley, 2s. 10d., to 3s. Od.; Oats, 2s. 6d. to Os. Od., per Imperial llnsheJ- Butter, 10d to lid.; Beef, 5d. to 6d.; Mutton, 6d. to 7d.; Veal, 5d to 6d Pork, 4d, to 5d. per lb. CARDIFF.—Average price of Corn at Cardiff market for the week ending April the 8th, 1835 Wheat, 21. Is. 9M.; Bar- ley, 11. 7g. 7Jd. Oats, 11. 3s. Od.; Beans, 21. 2s. Od. per Imperial Quarter. CARMARTHEN.—Wheat, 5s. 3d. to 5s. 10d., per 64 lbs.; Bar- ey, 3s. 2d. to 3s. 6d., per Imperial Winchester Bushel; Oat., 2s. Od. to 2s. 8d. per Ditto.
PYLE COUNTY MEETING.
PYLE COUNTY MEETING. Fiat Justitia."—" Magna est Veritas, prevalet et prevalebit." To the EDITOR of The CAMBRIAN. SIR,—Premising that I take my stand on the assertion of facts, and the soundness of the arguments tbat have been brought to bear on the question at issue between the requisitionists for the call of the meeting, the majority of whom carried the Address to his Majesty, and their opponents, I may be allowed to enter the political arena, however unequal I may be deemed to the task I have undertaken. If any good be the result of my observations to that which I consider to be the justice of the cause, which I hold to be the main object of the Reformers, it would be ample satisfaction to myself, because it will have had some tendency to abate the prejudices which have been too long and too deeply rooted to have it expected that they should be immediately era- dicated, although they cannot fail to be abated by sober reflection or rational arguments addressed to the reason of the people; and, therefore, I proceed to the consideration of my text. No mau will controvert the assertion that the Address was voted by a considerable majoritv of the persons present at the meeting; but it may be asked how was that result obtained ? Was not the assembly convened on a notice, short as applicable to the county at large, the space of, at the most, three clear davs only intervening between the public announcement and the hold- ing of the meeting? From this circumstance alone the requi- sitionists derived a manifest advantage—they had that time to arrange and to mature their plans, of which the Reformers were deprived. They could call to their aid their tenantry and adhe- rents—a measure acted upon by them, but in no case resorted to by their opponents—and to this cause and the advocacy and exer- tions of the Clergy were they indebted for their success. These tactics of the requisitionists were, from motives of forbearance and delicacy, only slightly alluded to Oil the occasion; but if they will triumph in a victory thus achieved, they must be told, that THE INDIVIDUAL ON WHOSE PROPERTY THE ASSEMBLAGE TOOK PLACE, COULD AT HIS BECK ALONE, ON FIVE HOUR'S NOTICE OF THEIR INTENTIONS AND MAXCEUVRES, HAVE FRUS- TRATED THEIR ATTEMPTS AND ANNIHILATED THEIR TEMPO- RARY PREPONDERANCE. Why were such pains taken to describe the question as pnrely a religious one, bat to give a colouring to the part taken in it by more than one individual, as well as better calculated to prevail with the mass of the freeholders ? Now, I do contend that the subject was more of a political character, and that such was the object of the abstract principle of the Resolu- tion ot Lord John Russell, adopted by the House of Commons, and which must have been laid: at the foot of the Throne, but for the well-timed resignation of Sir Robert Peel. The appropria- tion of any surplus of tbe revenues of the Irish Church Establish- ment to the purposes of moral and religious education, is, in the latter point of view, conducive to the furtherance of the Protestant Institution and in the former aspect, also calculated to promote an increase of the number of proselytes to its precepts, and to the conversion into good and loyal subjects of the ignorant and bigotted portion of the Irish population. The more the poorer classes are enlightened, the less they will be subjected to the fallacies of the Roman Catholic religion and the interested dogmas of its Priests, or it follows that ours is the weaker cause, and that the Protestant divines write and preach to little purpose. It is asserted by Locke, that men mat/ become professors and combatants for opinions they were never convinced of nor proselytes to. History tells us, also, that no converts were ever made to anv religion by the fire or the sword, and if the conversion of the Irish to Pro- testantism is a desideratum, it can only be brought about by a good and moral education. It suited the object of the requisi- tionists, as it also did that of a portion of the sectarians who attended the meeting, to have the question treated as a religious one but whether the one or the other, it should have been con- fined to the Irish Church Establishment, and not blended with that of the English Church, as it was, for the obvious reason, on the part of the Clergy, that if the principle he admitted that any portion of the revenues of the Church are applied to other thnn strictly religious purposes, such a diversion of the Irish Church funds may operate as a precedent for a similar appropriation of the English revenues. But in the one case it is contended that more is at present set apart for the purposes of spiritual instruc- tion than is required by the Protestant portion of the population of the Sister Kingdom whereas in this country the Church revenues are not more than adequate, if equal, to the maintenance of a working clergy. The only purpose attempted to be obtained by a reform of the abuses in this particular in England, is a more equal adjustment of the sums of money, however derived, that have been allotted for the maintenance of the professors of the doctrines of the Established Religion, so that the labourer who is deserving of his hire may receive it, as a more deserving re- muneration than the paltry pittance at this time afforded him by the overpaid Dignitary and Pluralist. Abate the abuses that exist in the Establishment, and there will be no more occasion for the rally-cry of Church in danger," which in a short time will be of no more avail than the No Popery" exclamation, to which it has succeeded If a sincere Churchman, and as such a well-wisher to the Establishment, might be permitted to offer a word of advice to his clerical fellow-subjects, it would be in the shape of the recommendation that they should avoid political discussions, even when they have a tendency to affect their in- terests. Stipendiary auxiliaries might also as well steer clear of political meetings. They must be more or less considered as interested in the cause thev advocate—their arguments, therefore, much more powerless than those of their friends and well-wishers and I am confident that the result will prove, that by becoming forward and pertinacious partisans in a battle that would be better fought by their friends without their assistance, they strengthen the hands of their adversaries. Thus, they may rely on it, will their favourite law maxim of Nullum tempus occurrit Eccles;æ" be the sooner abrogated, and together with the anathemas the Church, that fall like so many bruta fulmina on the schismatical," be like the baseless fabric of a vision, and leave not a wreck behind." In my estimation such a line of conduct on the part of the priesthood leads by rapid strides to the increase of what they consider to be an evil, but which in the end will (as I firmly trust) prove the safeguard of both Church and State against the attacks of democracy, or that which, in more mo- dern phraseology, is termed Radicalism. Although an incompe- tent advocate of the cause of Reform, I beg leave to call myself a friend thereto in all its salutary viewlt, and as such, 28th April, 1835. AN OBSERVER.