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DRAINAGE SCHEME F!m. t L.G.B. INQUIRY AT SWANSEA 3PEN<NG OF LONG PROCEEDINGS. Mumbles Keenly I Interested. I MUMBLES SEWER 'A SWITCHBACK, SIGNIFICANT OMiSStON !N 1912. I The Local Government Board inquiry was opened at the Swansea Town Hall on Thurs- day morning into the application of the Swansea Corporation for a provisional order empowering the Corporation to extend The borough to nearly four times its present are" and for sanction to borrow J3531.894 for die purposes of what is known as the Mumbles Read drainage scheme. The extension scheme provides for the m elusion of the whole of the parishes of LIan samlet, Oystermouth and Brynau, and parn of the parishes of -Claise Rural and Penderry. The existing area of the borough is 6,239 acres, and the borough, if extended as proposed, would have an area of 24,193 acres, whilst the respective populations would be 120,300 and 153,288. Regarding the drainage scheme the proposal is to construct a main sewer from Swansea to the Mumbles, with an out- let 100 yards out to sea oR the Mumbles Head. Major Norton, R.E., was the inspector of the Board holding the inquiry, and he intimated at the outset that he proposed to Rrst hold th-s inctuirv re the drainage scheme. Great PubHo Interest. I I Great interested wa.. rnajiiteatea m Mie I proceedings, rep<resentat.ives of the Corpora,- ) tion and the other loeaJ alWtbocities being t pr&sent, whilst a fetture of the inquiry wa& a la-rge cartoon 20 feet by 25 feet that, co"Ver ha.lf of the wall of one &ide of UTe Crown Ctnirt, in which the pirooee:diaigs were I Md. This depictoad.the existing borougJh and the proposed a<Med &reas, and g&ve de- tails regarding the dr&inage sehome, afnd wM on a ac&le of 2S'inches to a mile. There was also a great arra.y of cou.na&t eilg-&ged in the master, aiMl theee included tb's ],ea.œng Pa.r- Kam'snttarv lawyers of the day. Mr. Honor- I at,us Lloyd, K.C., and Mf. Clode, K. C. (in- stra<7ted by the Town Clepk. 'Mr. H. Laing Coafth) a.PPea.red for tthe CoJpofRnbte.n of Swanbea; Mr. BaMour Bro'<me, K.C.. artd Mv. Tyidesley Jones (inftni.c'bad by Mtr. C.. W. Sta-ter) oppoped on behalf of the OyAEyr- rr:oatt Urbain District C<ninci'[; Mr. Vowy Khox (in&tructed by Mr. E'dwafrd Harris) opposed on behalf of the Swansea Rur-d Dietrict Council; Mr. Mtairj&y Samson (in- structed by Messrs. R. and C. P. J-enJd.ns and Meaeis. Stnck and Belllngham) opposed for the G-ower RMra.1 Dq--t-riet Co'uaMti an-d! Voo T4bot Mr. Ma.nael Frw-A-.kn, o!m<k to amor pl Coimty C<mncil, opposed on bohq ,I f of tJ1If! body and Mr. A. A. Thomas. !sta<oding counsel'to the N. U. T., a.mpeared in the interests of the teaching profession. Mr. Midgeley Taylor, for the Corpora- tion, and Mr. Diggl, for the opposition, were the chief engineering expert witneasea in attendance. The Town ClerV read the notices of the respective applications, and the inspector! intimated that.the three months' notice in respect of the order for proceeding with thf drainage proposals would not expire until March 7th. so that If there were My objections to it a further inquiry would havs to be hed. The Town Council would be aware of that? The Town Clerk Y<=s, Mi-. Mr. Balfour Browne: And t.hér& wUl be ebject.ions under section 53. Mr. Honoratus Lloyd Oh, no doubt. Mr. BalfoHf Browne ea-id he wan<ted to re- serve his rights under the section of the Act (which provides for objections to March). The CommjseKXMr said he did not know 'whether it was wish<ed for the injury to be b&Id there twice. Mr. BrowTM said he had not formula-ted his objectiona- The Conuniaait&ner: Your clients h&ve put in a memorial. Mr. BTWVTte poimted o)it there ware at).H a n.Tnn.ber of people who bad time to object. He confessed be thought the preaemt inquiry was am a'b<K)taba)y informal one in'to thei sewage, and he thought he w<mJd only orosa- exttmuM! as it bore indM'ectly upon the ques- tion of extension. Mr. Knfox, oJi behalf of the District Coun- <'H, said he .was ia the sa-nM po?itaon. They w.ere really not infonne d on oertai'n pounts to put tho M.I objections in. The Commissioner said surely it was net expected the Local Govammettt Board '\vonld "hold ainother inquirv, for erm zels' dMHts '.vere present, he reminded thcrn. MT. Knox said he expected the Board -d follow the Act of Parliament. He Wtw! a<<Aendmg' on the eitens10111 propoga.Is, and if be &sked questions on the other paj"t it would attU be to reserve bJts right under the Statute. Mr. A. A. Thomas. on behalf of the N. U. T., said provision waa made for the transfer of teachers, and his clients regarded the additicin of the districta as aji advan- j tage. Mr. Manse! Franklen (cierk to the Glamorgan County Council) said he objected, a'nd it having been notified that any expense inouiTed would be disallowed it was !«ft to the county officials to Oppose the sohemM tn their spate time. (Laughter.) ihe omcjaJs had not had time tv prep&re their .opposition to the sewage scheme, a<nd they required the full time allowed by law. Mr. Sajiison. on behalf of the Gower Rura.ll Council ajMi Miss Taltx)t, opposed both echemes. The Oommisai<mer said he widerqgod Mr. C. F. Fryer, on behalf of the Board of Agn- tutture, intended to be present. THE SCHEME OUTLINED. Mr. Hoi-ioratut3 Lloyd then outlined the echeme a ad the history leading up to it, to- aether with the provision tlhwt was bating made. The scheme started from the north end, comin.g down from the Morristun dis- trict through L<andore and the f€<rttr'a.I line o< the borough, and then down to Bryn<mi.U a-nd aJoug the < oast to the .\fur:lhJes. In addition there were two di"3iÏlW\.ge in'tarcept- <ng f!eWeT&onoe in ,the Carma.)-thernroa<d a.t"i tihe other BrynmiH-Ia.ne. To dea.1 properly with tilJè. drainage of the borough Imd csr- ta.m oÚtlying districts 't would be iieces"u_lv to expend in addition to the JB331.894 a a-nm of ab&ut .S101,000. Mr. Hoyd proceeded to traooe the history of fhe sewags sch eme bnieny..md sa.id efveryone agreed the pre- gout atajte of affaim cou.M not b'* totaratt&d. ,Ah'J'ut the middle of la&t centiiry a soheme tviM d'y/ised to deaJ. wibh a popuJ.a.táon of 30,000, and the scheme was oarrMd o).t in :i. tt-a.y to de<t.l with 20.000 fm the west of t.h?* fi-ppr with an ri.uti'aj} a.t Pier.!1troot. Th:¡,t ttiN existed, aind was seen, and on oprtajn oe&5Ïons c&uld be anie'it. (LaL,,qhter). Since 1854 the population had mcre??d. Landore had been dra-med into tthc rivea- v/ith a.n.other outfal The o.JIlunieio;l1. suggested akipping all that aad cooiicg down to the preeent pro' jtasaL_ i Mr. Lloyd said in 1912 ib was admitted t by everyone that the present stat-e of a.S'Hirs must be remedied. He parsed over TariouR I Ruggestioiis to mitigate the evil and ca.m'e down to the 1912 scheme with an Outfa!!attheMumb!es. I Upon that Mr. MidgJey Taylor (engineer) made a report, and at that time the scheme was :nt.endd to d<'s.l with the borough, pre- sent and future, a,nd also a. certain area, out- side. It was intended to cope with a popu- lation eventually of ''OO.COO. The scheme was then placed before Parliament and they would recall how it wan opposed, and the re- sult was that the Commons declined to ac- cede to the Corporation's proposals. The Corporation a.gain consulted Mr. Midgelcy Taylor and the result was that the present scheme was devieed, having regard to the useful critic-isms previously made in 1912. The promoters were able to place a scheme of many merits absent from the former one, and one that could not i'a-irly be objected to, ajid one which waa not 6bivec,d to by the ,Opl-, immediately concerned. Mr. Browne, on behalf of the Mumbles, said he had not time to consider it, and other bodies had rpposed. but the people of the parishes con- cerned desired and wished for the scheiw— fmd they had had plenty of time to consider it. In all esential matters for the welfare of the scheme the new scheme deajt in a satiafactory wa.y with all the opposition The present scheme provided for 250,000 people, and a scheme of that character was essential whether there was an Extenaton of the borough or not. I It WM said of the original intercepting I 'ver that the "éwer would, by reason of the velocity, <%tc.. be an "impossible" sewer Major Norton, the Commissioner. I and & rotten" scheme. But he now, in the present scheme, would bring evidence show- ing the practicability and necessity of the present proposals. Mr. Lloyd proceded to rele¡- to Lord Swansea's contention in 1895. Mr. Browne Are you going to call him ? Mr. Lloyd: Are you appearing? Mr. Browne said he did not k]Mw yet, but his point was that views could not be presented without catling evidence. Mr. Lloyd said he could show the view at that time and in that connection he read a letter from the late Mr. Abernet-hy, a famous engineer, who wrote on November 8th, 1893, to Lord Swansea, after reading in the "Cam- brian" profpc'as.ls to discharge sewage in SwBttisea. Bay. Mr. AberlJ£,thy, refeiTed to the "feeble tidaJ currents" in the Bay and to the bad effects that would follow, the discharge in the Bay being moat detrimen- I tal." Seaward of the Mumbles Head "of- fered peculiar advantages for the effectual disposal." Counsel proceeded to &a.y t'hat noat experiments showed that there were certain hour6'w'h$n'it would be unfSrtmi&te, Indeed, to discharge aewaga at the point prescribed. There were also certain hours during which it was obvious that it might be done with impunity and with great ad- vajitage to the bay at large as well as Swan- sea.. And under the circumstances he put before them the same site as proposed in 1913. At this stage Mr. C. B. Fryer, inspector of the Board of Agriculture and Fisheries, appeared on the bench and sat with the Com- mi;}sione}'. Mr. Honoratus Licyd went on to state that the storage tanks had been consider- ably enlarged and an additional outjaJl pipe provided in order to meet the objections raised at the last' enquiry, and as he had said the scheme really placed before Parlia- ment ajid rejected by them had received the most careful consideration and the result waa.a scheme differing to the other one in majiy essential particulars, and one which he ventured to suggest, on behalf of the Corporation, wcu!d meet the susceptibilities of all concerned. The feared frequent over- now of the storm water overflow at Bryn- mill had alee been remedied, counsel ex- plained. The Commissioner: The owner of Single- ton Park is not opposing? Mr. Honoratus Lloyd: No. Dealing with the opposing mterests counsei! said that the parish of Cockett were not only drairous of coming into the borouo-h but were supporters of the drainage proposal" That toeing so, he would like to know what the Gower Rural District Council had got to do with it? Brynau Parish Council and the rate- payers had considered the matter and they decided not to cppose, subject to conces- sions being gra-nted in respect to venti!a.ting shafts. At Oysterntouth there were two interests, the oyster nsh?rm?n &nd Utf ratepayers. rite oyster fisherman would not huve the. &wnn- aea sewage at the Mumbip? at nil, but, after aU. they were representative of the rate- payers, and the latter had held a meeti: ? and said they were very desiroua for their local a-uthority to consult them upon the matter, and they passed a resolution asking tha District Council to cat! a, meeting witl, a view of ascertaining their view's, but one gentleman, who occupied a professional po- gition, instructed them what should be their views. but notwithstanding his able advo- 'cacy it was thought wiae not to pass a.ny resolution, and that very able gentleman ex- plained the rea.?on why. It was becam&e thev would have ample opportunity of ex- pressing their views at the poll which they were about to take. That poi! wag taken and the ratepayers, by & majority of 64. he thought, decided that they were in favour of both the sewerage and the extension schemes. And he would like to know,' that bping the case, where the Urban Distr,i 'Council were? And he was not surprised that his learned friend. Mr. Balfour Browne, waj!ted time to consider what he wao going to do. But the general result was when they took Swansea Bay and the interests a.fL fected by the proposals, they found that the districts through which the Corporation passed, and who would get the facilities for which they would be glad, favoured the pro- posals—t.wo of them. whilst one wag not op- posing, providing they had concessions in reference to ventilating aha-ftf. Under these circumstances it was clear that the, scheme he now placed before them was vaetiy different to that put before Parlia- ment in 1912, t The Commissioner: Is there anythmg in the Public Health Acts to prevent the put- ting of the identical rejected scheme I)cf"re. Parliament? Mr. Honoratus Lloyd replied in the nega- tivp. They C3uld put it before Parliament .igain, and saying that -that wa.s the proper tribunal to go to, but when they went to Parliament on the Cast occasion nobody was louder than his learned friend, Mr. Bal ) Browne, against that course being adopted. What was the meaning of gQhg to ParJia- i ment?" it was sa,id. "Why didn't they g< to the Local Government Board?" And it was suggested that the reason was to avo:d the presence oi a competent inspector with a knowledge of these matters going into the district n,nd seeing things for hirMelf. Com- ing to the existmg ii)-eans of sewage disposal at the Mumbles, counsel said that anybody I laoing to the Mumbles ae a. health resort aad seeing the se-wcrs would say, HnUo! where are thaee going to?" And they had only to get on to -tha pier to get the answer. As a matter of fact the sewer was a switch- ba-ck. Tha Commissioner I should like to sa,y that m 1908 the Local Government Board sanctioned a loan for the alteration of that ecwpT, and I understand, after my visit yes- terday, that the improved gradient wag never ma-de. I Khou!d like to hav(, some informa- tion v'hy that has T,r — done? The Sw!tohback StH! ConfttntMe. I Mr. Hcnoratus Ltoyd Answer Not only that, but when Mr. DIggle was called af. it witness in the House of Commons he pro- duced a plan purporting to show the gra- dient and the 1evcl at various points, and that p!a.n we have, and it docs show the gradient at, cert-ain points/but it omits the others, and as it was drawn it shows a plan without a switchbacik, but we ha-ve U-oe t.rue pla.n. Appa-rently Mr. Diggl(', for some rea- son or othe' or those who uMtruc'ted Mm, omitted the levels which wOlJd, have ghown 'i Ie'vel. I do not wish to press it for ;-1¡e moment. Sumoi'ent for me to say tha.t M!r. Diggle toJd the House of Commons that < t.hp syst'em ttbeire was unaatMfaobory. Proceeding, Mr. Hoyd said TAnOin,A Bay \va.<i badly sewered and wanted aiteind.inig to, ruid th?t wa? recognised by the Distfnot Co?uncH. As records the oyster ns.hen.ea the borough tlikmght their' proposaJs would "vast.Iy improve the conditions." "1 of Agriculture had reported on the mat-bsr to the Commo'ns. He was ir,\ a position to prove tha.t the present sta-te of a&Mrs was "eminently uJ1.ati 8Cto ry bn-tt wha<t the Corporatdon proposed to do "must" improve t.he conditions of the fisheries. Unless some- thing wR.s do!na—afnd tha<t soon-ruin ,VtOI1ikl be au'tomattac. a,nd what the Com<ration pTopos&d wouJd save tha.t fiahery. The pre- sonft -,tate of aSM<ra must be T6m,ooried a.nd this is j;,he remed/y. The Commissioner asked for the estimate of the 1hole ischeme (including additional works). M.r. Uoyd said JB101,000 w&a in a-ddition I to the amount now a.aked for. I The Commissioner sa.id theh- borrowing ¡' powers were practically JB476;000. Mr. Uoyd: We shaJI be within it. The CommissioB<T sa.id they might. got < more than thirty years for the outfall sewer, Mr. Lloyd said he wanted as long as p'o&=Ibte. Tha Commissioner uked whose scheme it was- An enormous amount of time was wasted in Parliament cross-examining each witness on the same points. Was the out- fall Mr. Wyrill's or Mr. Midge-ley Taylor's scheme? Who wotdd give evidenc'a? Mr. Hoyd said it was Mr. Mid gel ey Ta.y- lor's. wit,h Mr. WyriU responsible for details. The main intercepting sewer was Mr. Midgdey Taylor's. The Commissioner said he wanted to eave time, and that waa why he asked. In Pa,r- Ha.ment the enquiry took three weeks; he wajtted to nnish it in three days. Mr. Uoyd More power to your eibow. (Laughter.) He pointed out tnat the op- position did not haj-dly know what position they were actually in. Evidence was then ca.lkd. Mr. MiÍdgeJ Ta.yk'r, C.B., beJmg the ni'st wtitneaa. Mr. Ttaylofr. is dT.a.irm'atn of tJM Aasecitution of Coàsulting È1ineer.s, ? amd has adfvised a.t home ajui aibroa.d. He explained the present syabe!m outlet& The Comm.iaadonier: You know t.hem, tthe OorporZJtion know .them, and I know them.. ? Is it neces&a.ry? Witne?s pi'ooeeded to deaj with outlet de- tails, and as reg'a<rds Mie u,nseweped atreas sa.id a few houses in the west, a few at iton\'Tiiaen, ?ere not connected. The Tre- r iie borough boeMi ares, wa& being done. 'nie b<yrcm) ? i a? a whole was well provid'ed, hut the necessity of an improtved scheme he dilMOO upon. He had 1V on more sea. ouitfaills than anyone el-* and it w&a t.h'e biest met'h'od, provided tneI'e was øu1t1'CIÎOOIt current, con- trol, etc. The proposed w<s one of the Rnest diRchtan- g e po':ats he had aaen, and waa m&iitedy smperior to many on the South Coast pleasure regorts. It would sweep round in,to the titde, and the pMaenft was the I blelqt sciheme possible. To datscbatrge a<ny- tihing into the &la)ok waiters of Swainaea Bay wMmst a 4 ?iaa<ble. Mr. Midgeiey Tayl'or, the Coa'pora.tiotY ex- pert, cmiiaiulilg his evidence iu the Swansea, dramage i-nqutry on Thursday. and a.nawering the Commissioner, said there was no. objection to a screening. cham- ber in the borough under the previous pro- poool.s, thoug't! to taJ:c in ot-ber diatrlct-s as proposed, it waa advisable to place it whece I now pTopoeed. AtlS'Nel'ing fmr&er questions, the witness sajd the 23.86, ,in<t'ea.sé in population could not. be ma.in'tained, and he had taken it a& 14 per cent., the Taite beiitg at tha.t ngure from 1911. A.t. the noi'th end the 18 inch ma.in would take in the added area,; at tjie Croea ijt.. wa<s 36 inches, a-nd a sm.&H pumping station would bring certain Low- iymg aewa.ge ui; at Hafod imd Cfroft-stroet and Ci-ad-dock-gtr,et, added areae would be brought..md the wituess ti-aced the ti-ack- down to the Mumbtes. The valocities a.t- tained were mtisiaetory,land the sewer wou1<l be a self-cleansing one. The pump- ing st.a.t,joa was not included in the J3351.000, but wauld be applied for in due ci,,ku-se. St. Thomaa was new drained into the Taw." and em-el of the Kin)g'a Dock. A pumpiag statm.'n at the Tawe omJeb would drive the- sø:w-ag.e up, and a. syphon would on:ubJe it tc into the main sew'e!r'. Oer- tain of the sewage Wcu!d have to be pumped twice. I A pun'p'm.? stx?on v.'uuia €tnabj'a t-he iov. lyi?g pa.rts of th? tow? to be drained. The two pumping s't?tioaTs from St. Thom.?s ;md j'i;sit:).{ mn.!H VtOni'j co?t. ?315,000.. the low- tymg pu:nping <"ta.ioii JBojOOO, and the low J.eyel, Morriston, and Cvm .65,565. The BrynJUdl,lan.e to Cockett. sewer cost was in- cluded in the present applicotioil. Ll:msa.m- Let (fJ.OOO pop'ii.'i.t'.on) couid oiuy effecti%e.,y got rid of its PuniK:&h)CH. works oouM ony be put, in th'e borouj!;Jl, afnd the Corporation wo!uld na-v somethintg to say as regard;; that.. The ex- pen'd.itur'' of J3730 was required for the Bonynlaen se'wer for the remaiiid<ar £.21,800 was required for Uan-,amlet town ajTid GIa'is. and this induided a pfoportion of pumping station for Morris- ton. Claae, like Llansamlet, wM in need of drainage facilities. JH1,606 cost was neces- cary to connect Morriston and Treboeth. Sewers noi'th of Clase, and subsidiary &ewers, .C7,700 would be mtaiied. Pen- derry (southent p&rt) naturally drained to Swansea..81,545 w as necessary for the Treboeth bianch sewers to conjiect. with main, 0. Fforestfach's drainage would be in connection with Cockett, <md in that regard he gave .67,100 as estimated cost. Cockett fell into .several drainage areaa. Gendros dra-ined towards the borough, and the cost to connect would be R2,800. He purposed a concentration of sewers at Cockett, and the erection of a pumpiHig &ta.tton towards the nrth-wegt coT-ner. The Sketty works on the Mumbles road Shoutd be scrapped ajMl jcmed to main outfall. Cockett and endeiTV's cost to link up and deal with was .S29.700. At Langland Bay a scheme was needed, and a pumping station would have to be erected. The intercept- ing sewer would pk'k up Oystermouth. The existing main sewer, would be aban- doned and would obviate cleansing, a'ndi the present unsa-tisfactory point of discharge. .S1.800 would be the. cost for the La.ng)l<md Bay area (including the pumping station). As regards the noa.ts, etc., the period of shut- ting penstocks h<td been .increased (since thb Parliamentary Bill) and th" periode alightty altered. Considerable numl-yer.,4 of float ex- periments were taken m 1914 and they con- firmed the present outlet is ae- good as could be found and better than alternatives i suggested. It would be waste of money to I expend the outlet 14 or 15 miles down the Bristol Channel as he was absolutely con- vinced th:tt within H alf-a-milft ct <he preaent <!te I I of the outlet every trace ot sewage woul4 I Th<* --I

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