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DENBIGII. The Denbigh Office of the NORTH WALES GUARDIAN is now at Albert Terrace, Vale-street (nearly opposite the Station-road). All communications addressed either to The Reporter," or 1111'. COTTOM by name, will receive immediate attention. The paper is onscde at the shops of Messrs. J. I) A VIE.S and W. A. NOTT, and at the Bookslall at the Station. BAPTIST SCHOOL.—OQ Tuesday the teachers and scholars of the Welsh Baptist Sunday School at Denbigh bad their annual trip, the place selec^d being Rbyl. The weatner WAS fine, and a. goodly number of persons joined the party. AN APPEAL.—We believe that it is likely that the DEFEND-!nt in the case of Lloyd V. Conway, heard in DENBIGH Police Court, and which has been legarded with some interest, will appeal against the decision of the Magistrates. CONCERT.—A concert has been arranged for Friday next (25TH) in aid of the National Schools at Bodfari. Mr. P. P. Pennant has consented to pre- side, and an excellent programme is provided. Gomerydd and the Bodtari Glee Party will take part. SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING. A MIDNIGHT SITTING. WEDNESDAY.—Present: The Mayor (Aldermen T. Gee), Aldermen T. J. Williams and E. W. Gee, Councillors J. Symonds Jones, John Da des, Evan Thomas, Robert Ellis, John Armor, Robert Davies, John Lloyd, R. Humphreys Roberts, and E. T. Jones. A letter of apology was read from Mr. Robert Parry. The meeting was expected to last only a short time, but, as will be seen, it extended from eight o CIOCK till about midnight. TENDERS FOR THE DRAINAGE WORK. Tenders had been invited for excavating the drainage work from Vale-street to Eglwys W en, and the follow- ing sent tenders :—John Weyman, Rhos, Ruabon, 5s. pet- yard, or a total of £ 450 15s, including watchman, lights, &c. Robert and Edward Thomas, Denbigh, 4d. per yard inclusive Messrs. Owen AML^ aughan, Wrexham, 5s. per yard, and 10s. extra for each man- hole John Jones, 97, Henllan-street, s. (id. per yard inclusive, and till in again at 3d. per yard, the Council finding men to ram Thomas Withers, Mold, 0s. (3d. per yard and Jones and Son, Denbigh, offered to excavate, tind pipes, and complete the whole work for 14s. per yard. As regards the pipes, the following firms sent in tenders, quoting prices for pipes from six inches T eighteen inches, as per specifications, and we QUOT(^C_ larger size pipe as giving some indication of tne R'F ILE tive prices:—John Gibbon, Buckley Brick AI £ 3s.; Company, Chester, IS inch, in tv,o feet LEN^P Doultou Brothers and Co., Liverpool, 2s. article. Thomas Roberts, Railway StatjAJ ANCJ I^RFCLC 5s. 4d., with 30 per cent ott Aston HALL^^I, J,,UESJ Company, Hawarden, 2s. E. 1' Brooke and Charles-street, Wrexham, 2s. day Son, Huddersfield, 5s. yd. per yard 2S. (jd.; Jones and Works, Ruabon, two feet lengt.^ (^}IAR}ES Jones Son, Denbigh, two leet length; FOR bends; Pant Coal and Son, Rhyl ,2s. SU., ey RUABON, three feet Brick and lire Clay Co' 'WORKS, Ruabon, was the lengths, 5s. lhe PENOE^U J.|IU RIIZT.S) and next lowest cheapest quotation AN being the Hawarden ,IDPANY' .IONS DENOUNCED AS "TRASH." THE SPECIFIC T. ^.dingof the tenders, Mr. R. H. ROBERTS lAumg the R' THROUGH SPECIFICATIONS prepared by had been I0U;'JJM.VEVOR, and then remarked These the JJOROUIS AFE M-QST M;SlEAding. It is to be hoped speciticaV^ tenc|L.re,i on them. They deal with the drainage work, and it is all jumbled up together W -:N such wording that it is impossible for anybody A Ndeal with them. It would be absurd for us to think V- treating with anybody or to see any person until v,e >■' T our specifications drawn out properlv^SUJ^wt we S I .,ay, "This is the work we really wafiTaone. wil1,1 6* do it for the price named it" I* WORD D TINT CT^IR ■ L~~ „ c_ •■ '■bese iiiViel" BOimact y- SI/ECITICATIONA. I say '.v ought to have A COMRMTT^WO go into this work, ur 1. that our Surveyor is not competent TA^EPARE the specifications, which are to JICYSIE guide for Carrying out this important work. f The MAYAR We need not delay on that account, FOR'LWPP'^ING these specifications are wrong, we can simplify the whole business in a quarter of an hour by drawing out a simple agreement between ourselves and the contractor. It's a very simple pieceof business, and if you like you may throw those specifications to the wind, and we will go on a simple agreement to do the work for ",0 much per yard. „ Mr. ROBERTS here pointed out various portions oi the specifications that he considered absurd in the extreme. The MAYOR said he had not seen them before, and could not understand them. The SURVEYOR considered them intelligible enough, and said they had been sanctioned by Mr. Beliis, the engineer. Mr. ROBERTS (emphatically) I could almost pledge my word and say that ALL*. Bellis never passed such "trash as that (Holding up the specifications). The SURVEYOR Beg your pardon, but I left them with him at Mold, and he approved of them. Mr. ROBERTS 111 be bound to say that Mr Beliis has never read that remarkable document and passed it if he has, I'm sorry he is our engineer but I know he has not sanctioned them in that form. The MAYOR (to the Surveyor): Why do you produce a. mass of matter like this we want a man simply to cut a. drain, and your specifications ought not to say anything else. The Council then proceeded to put the specifications presented by the Surveyor on one side and began to draw up seven headings to an agreement to be entered into by the excavators and the two lowest, Thomas and Jones, of Denbigh, were sent for. Mr. ROBERTS Before you send for any man, I, in the interests of the ratepayers, enter my protest against treating with or seeing any of these men until we have proper specifications drawn up in writing and the whole matter set forth distinctly and plainly. The MAYOR pointed out to the Surveyor the amount of trouble he had caused by not simply acting upon the resolutions of the Council; and added—the whole business is a very simple one, but those specifications of the Borough Surveyor are really beside the mark entirely. I want to proceed as far as we can and draw up just the questions we wish to ask the men, and they ca.n then be embodied in an agreement by the Town ^MR." JOHN LLOYD saw no hurry was needed, and urged carefulness now. Mr. JOHN DAVIES advised calling in the men, who would understand the questions put by the Mayor better than any specifications. Mr. R. H. ROBERTS thought they should make another fatal error if they were in too much of a hurry the whole of the trouble with Mr. Jeffreys was through being in so much of a hurry.. The MAYOR According to that suggestion we should have sat here all this time and done nothing to night. THE ENGINEER'S SPECIFICATIONS "TGRN liP." Whilst some warm conversation was going on about the Surveyor's specifications, the Surveyor laid before the May or a "draft copy" of specifications drawn up by Mr. Bellis, the engineer, and upon which he said his WTH^AMAYOR Here are Mr. Beliis' specifications turned up now; the Surveyor has given us all this trouble by shewing his own specifications instead of Mr. Bellis's. Having read Mr. Bellis's through, The MAYOR said there is some sense in those now. Mr. R. H. ROBERTS Yes, that's more like it. The Surveyor wanted to explain his, but the MAYOR said he could understand Mr. Bellis's but not the Surveyor's. The Council then went into a discussion as to the points in these specifications, and one alteration proposed and carried was that the words by direction of the borough surveyor, Mr. H. G. Jones," should be altered to "the borough surveyor for the time being. A somewhat animated debate now and again occurred as to the power to be given to the Surveyor; several members urging that they be curtailed. The MAYOR I must say that I think a good deal of the unpleasantness we have had was due to the action taken bv Mr. Jones, the Surveyor, and if he cannot act in obedience to the orders of this Council, then we had better advertise for another. If he departs from the plans or our orders without direct orders he puts him- self in the position of being liable to dismissal. LVIr. ROBERTS We have a Borough Surveyor at a certain salary, but we have no sureties that he will perform his duties aright, and are we right in putting ourselves in the position of having to pay for extra work simply because the borough Surveyor will by those specifications be able to order work without our author- ity '• The MAYOR Pass a resolution on the subject. Air ROBERTS Put it in the specifications. Didn't we pass resolutions before, and yet Mr. Jeffreys, our late contractor, is now crowing that our borough Sur- veyor passed his work, and that we were bound to pay It was after further discussion, agreed to insert that no alteration should be made except by the written orders of the Borough Surveyor for the time being; countersigned by the Mayor. V 1 Mr. J. S. JONES thought they had been rather hard on the Borough Surveyor. Were they sure the late trouble was all his fault; was not some of it theirs He did not think they should lay all their sins on the Surveyor, and make a scapegoat of him, for they had not been quite careful enough in all the preparations they had made themselves. THE COUNCIL SIT TILL MIDNIGHT. The Council then proceeded to enlarge the draft copy of Mr. Bellis's specifications, and add clauses for the security of the Council in every way, fixing sureties for the due performance of the work, and when our reporter left, soon after eleven o'clock, the members were as lively as ever, and discussing every point in such a careful manner as must have thoroughly satisfied their constituents that neither time nor labour were con- sidered in serving them. The result of this midnight conference will be given next week. BOROUGH MAGISTRATES' COURT. FRIDAY.—Before the Mayor (Alderman Gee) and Mr. T. Evans. GAME LICENSES. These were renewed to Mr. Rogers, Vale-street, and Mr. Edgar, Market Hall. DRUNK AND DISORDERLY. For being drunk and somewhat noisy, Robert Foulkes, j the well-known fowl dealer, &c.. of Denbigh, was ordered to pay 5s. and costs. He, as usual, caused con- siderable amusement in Court by the style in which he argued the case with the Mayor, and assured the com- pany that he had hundreds of pounds in the bank. CURIOUS MIDNIGHT PROCEEDINGS.—REFUSING TO QUIT. John Conway, horse dealer and breaker, St. Asaph, was charged with refusing to quit the Bull Hotel on May 30th at Denbigh. The case, which had excited a good deal of interest, had been adjourned with a view of trying to settle the dispute. Mr. R. H. Roberts, solicitor, said that the complainant regretted having to bring the defendant into Court, inasmuch as previously they had been on good terms, and the case would, in all pro1 (ability, have been settled but for the fact that the defendant had alleged that the police were not sober when called into the hotel to turn him out. and as he refused to withdraw these allegations, the case was brought forward partly to clear the character and conduct of the police on that occasion. Mr. John Lloyd, Bull Hotel, said on the evening of May 30th defendant was in the house. Heard Mrs. Lloyd frequently ask defendant to leave, and as he refused, Sergeant Lewis was sent for. Defendant had not requested a bed there. Sergeant Lewis came in shortly after 11 o'clock. The committee of the cavalry races were giving away prizes until a few minutes after 11 o'clock, when Sergeant Lewis came in and re, minded them that it was after 11 o'clock, and time-f clear out. Subsequently Mrs. Lloyd wanted to jyd the house, and as Conway would not go, Mrs. nway ] sent fcfr the police. When the police came in, not a asked for a bed, but Mrs. Lloyd said there i if there bed. He (witness) had said he should have^, traveller was one. Defendant alleged that he the house and his horse was feeding. He had bgonway's horse two hours but had not asked for a IJeshs ordered Ser- was found not to be feeding, and a little excited geant Lewis to clear the house. A-jy four or five times because he had to ask Serjeant eant trying* to inducc to turn Conway out; the Replied "You are only Conway to leave, and Gony§ip to pay for the coat on a common policeman andt you talk like that to your back Lewis rep you one of the fortys," but me agam I shall consbali him a thief. j Sergeant Lewis did.&>iined him with a view of proving Defendant cros^eave[j soon after eleven o'clock, but that the house tydered to go, and also to show that he that ne was ii"nec}. was promise%js proved going to the hotel soon after hergeantIoun(l an altercation going on with some eleven, being a gentleman living at the Bull Hotel person^ half his time. Having settled that dispute, more ]leaj jnt0 the little room and said, Now, e'emen, it's after eleven o'clock," and defendant h Siwered, "We will be out in a minute we are only .-fettling about the races." He was then standing up. Witness replied, Oh, all right, I'm not so thin- skinned but don't be long." Subsequently he was sent for to the house, and Mrs. Lloyd requested him to clear the house and see Mr. Conway out. Afcked her if there was anybody to go out, and she sai!, No, all the others are staying in the house. Conway then said, "Cannot I have a bed, Mre. Lloyd," aad she replied, I have repeatedly t >id you that I have no bed for you. Requested him to leave at once, like a gentleman, and he replied that his horse was feeding in the stable, but the ostler replied that his horse was on the pillar range, and had been there since ten minutes jiast nine. Defendant then said his horse was resting. Mi Lloyd expressed surprise that defendant should have a lie — about his horse, and asked witness to see defenda.- tout. Mr. Hookas, St. Asaph, was standing at the door I whilst this conversation was sroing on. Mrs. Lloyd re- peatedly told him to turn Conway out, and as the lat er did not go, he told him if he did not do 40 he must tu.n him out. Defendant turned round, waved his whip 1 and said, How dare you, a common policeman, speak to me like that." Witness replied that if he spoke, to I him like that he should put him down as one of the fortys." Conway replied, "Do you. keep you and pay for the coat you your bacjk-" Then caught hold of him 1.r: Jlie passag,801ld P.C. Wynne turned Bin vTdu*of the house. Outside hG got very r»w and ry nasty, so he told thei^fW^rs to th* police-station, whereupwl^fendaiit ran ur xSull-lane. By Mr. R. H. RobejJft^Twa s quite sober on that oc- easion, as I a 11, and I have never been accused before 11 to turn three 'jentle- vonway Were you not cauv- men out after 11 o'clock ?—I heard a whistle, and went there. Defendant Was that about me, or to interfere with those people that were fighting with swords ?-That was not for you. In reply to further questions, Sergeant Lewis denied that he was in the Bu!l between eleven and twelve several times, or that he had drink there. Didn't tell Conway he had been in town all day. Denied telling defendant that he was there amongst a lot of swindlers. Didn't call him a swindler thought he did say that there might be some swindlers outside for him. Didn't call him one of the" forty thieves." Denied that he taunted him about being under age and not having paid for the coat on his back. Conway Well, you will remember that I was putting down in a book all the names you were calling me, and, whilst I was doing so you took hold of me and turned me out. Witness I didn't notice what you were doing. Conway Well, I suppose you remember when out- side that you said you would kick me down the street. Witness indignantly denied this. Mrs. Lloyd proved sending for the police to turn Conway out; before that he had not asked for a bed this was getting on for twelve o'clock. Had told him repeatedly to leave. There was nobody in the house that ougiit to go out besides. The Sergeant at first, patiently tried to get Conway to go out. Both Lewis and Conway were sober. Defendant cross-examined Mrs. Lloyd at length with a view of shewing that a bed had been offered him and to try and prove that Sergt. Lewis had said he was amongst swindlers and that he was one, but Mrs. Lloyd said she could not say, she did not hear anything of that kind said. Owen Williams, ostler of the Hotel, said that the horse was not in the stable feeding, but 011 the pillar range for over an hour the horse was not fed until after Conway was turned out of the house, about twelve he ordered witness to bathe the horse's leg, and saw Conway pull the old scab off the horse's leg himself, after that the horse was made up for the night, but no orders had been given before that to do so. John Griffiths, boots at the Bull Hotel, proved that Mrs. Lloyi 1 sent him for the police to turn Conway out. He corroborated the evidence of previous witness. Mr. Conway (the defendant) in making a somewhat long statement to the Bench, said they had been en- gaged until after eleven o'clock, settling a dispute about a horse of his that was said to be disqualified for the Cavalry races. Heard Sergt. Lewis come in and say that it was after eleven o'clock, and he subsequently went out to the stable yard, and finding his horse's leg was bleeding, told the ostler to put the horse in the stable as he should not take the horse home that night. This was done and the ostler brought his coat into the house. When he came in again there was a little bit of a b, ,ther ,with three persons, and the boots ran out to fetch the policeman as they were fighting about a sword. He told Mr. Lloyd that his horse's leg was bleeding, and asked for a bed, which Mr. Lloyd said he could have. They stopped talking there and tossed for drinks. That vexed Mrs. Lloyd and she wanted the house closed up for the night. About then Sergeant Lewis came in and said that he (Conway) had been in town all day, and that it was time for him to go home. He said he was going to stay, and that his horse was not fit to leave. He heard the sergeant say that he was there amongst a lot of swindlers. Asked him who do you call swindlers," and he replied, "you for one." Said to him, the idea of a policeman like you calling me that." He then said to him that he was one of the forty thieves and had not paid for the coat on his back. During that Mr. Lloyd did not speak a word, but when he, defendant, told Sergt. Lewis that he would summon him, he got cross, took hold of him and pushed him out- side. W hen he was outside looking for a trap to go home, Sergt. Lewis (he asserted) said he would kick him and Conway down the street. He asserted that it was through his threatening to summon Sergt. Lewis that this summons was got out also that Mr. Lloyd had followed him some days after down the street and tried to induce him to settle the case, and he refused unless Sergt. Lewis would give him a written apology for the words he had uttered, and he further asserted that the summons was taken out by Sergt. Lewis against him when he refused to settle it. The Town Clerk said as regards that the information for the summons was laid and sworn to by Mr. Lloyd in his presence and not by Sergt. Lewis. Conway further argued that Mr. Lloyd had promised him a bed, and that he had a right to remain in the house, being over six miles from home, but he admitted that he did not secure a bed before eleven o'clock, the time of cloying the house. Robert Thomas Hookes, St. Asaph, said he drove into town with Conway, and after be had done his business went to the Bull Hotel and waited till after eleven o'clock for him to settle some racing dispute. Soon after eleven o'clock Sergt. Lewis came in and ordered all to leave but Conway and witness. Sometime after that, between 11-30 and 12, Sergt. Lewis came in again and had some words with Conway, saying some- thin"' about a gang of swindlers. Witness said that he hoped the sergeant did not mean to apply that to him, and he said he was not talking to him but to Conway. Sergt. Lewis said if Mrs. Lloyd gave them beds there he would summon Mr. Lloyd, and the latter said to the Sergeant that they had a perfect right to be there, being six miles from home, and that they could have a bed there. Mrs. Lloyd however, said they should not stay. Witness seeing there was some difficulty in the matter said to Conway "Well, I'm going out. You can do as you like," aud went outside, and he had not reached the door before he saw Conway being bundled out. He said that he was sure the Sergeant called Conway a swindler, and seemed to indicate that both were swind- lers. The Sergeant told Conway that he had not paid for the coat on his back; and saw Conway writing down the Sergeant's words in a book. He distinctly heard Mr. Lloyd say. when Sergt. Lewis said he would sum- mon him, that they had a right to be there, and if they wished they could have a bed. Just before Sergt. Lewis came in, they were tossing for drinks, but none of them had it that he knew of. He had none. Sergt. Lewis, in reply to the Bench, said that defendant on the niurht named was perfectly sober, not violent, nor quarrelsome, neither was he quarreling with anyone nor, disorderly, but persistently refused to quit when repeat- edly requested to do so. ) The court was cleared for a length of time whilst the Bench consulted, and in the end the Mayor announced that the question actually for consideration was had defendant a right to remain.at the hotel as a traveller? If it had been proved that he had engaged a bed before the proper hour for closing the hotel, they should have felt obliged to dismiss the summons, but looking at the whole of the evidence it went to support the charge against him of refusing to quit. The evidence the Mayor went over, and said it tended to prove clearly that there was no direct understanding between defen-^ dant and Mr. Lloyd about a bed until nearly twelv t o'clock, and therefore he had no right to remain thfo .1. They felt that the case was proved, and he was Haloed .1 a penalty of £ 0 fine, but as he was sober and cor were himself fairly, and considering the costs in the heavy, they fined him 10s. and costs. Defendant: What am I fined for, sir ? A the case, ] The Mayor We have heard the whemain there. and we tell you that you had no rightand the last ad- I The total fiue and costs of this co defendant's own journnient made afulitiidams) telegraphed, i expenses; but his lawyer (Mr magistrates' clerk to T before the case was heard, tcad advised Conway to c say he did not appear, ar t; settle it, odED CASE. A icon's Hill, was summoned at Thomas Jones, of .iken and disorderly conduct, on ( the last court for r /C. Simpson, but after the officer's the information owas adjourned till to-day, when de- ] evidence the c?Abraham Jones and John Jones, fendant calling working men, who most distinctly' t respectableJie man was sober, and that they were ( swore thfut their work when the otticer came up, and ] talkintiem what all that row was for, and defendant 1 askec] You mind your own business." repfe Bench dismissed the case. jergeant Lewis said ten to one the defendant would ( ie brought up again that day fortnight, when they would have some substantial evidence. The defendant said he had been put to a good deal of 1 trouble and 17s. 9d. expenses, and wished to know if he 1 had any remedy to get it, as he had been brought there, and a party preferred speaking more lies than truth. The Bench would not grant any costs.

-I RUTHIN.

BALA.

|BRYMBO AND BROUGHTON.

IBRYNFORD.

CARNARVON.

CEFN AND RHOSYMEDRE.

CHESTER.

CONWAY.

CONNAH'S QUAY.

CORWEN.

GRESFORD.

HOLYWELL. \

LI.AN GOLLEN. I

MOLD.