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APPOINTMENT OF A RATE I COLLECTOR SHOULD THE COLLECTOR UNDERSTAND WELSH ? I At Conway Board of Guardians on Friday, the question of electing a rate collector fos Llanrhos, Penrhyn and Llangystenin :was con- sidered. There were 21 applicants.. Mr R. lloberus moved, and Mr D. 0. Wil- liams aond.ed, iliat the person appointed should both speak and understand Welsh. Mr O. W. Roberts said that in a district L like that, where there was such a large English population, it would ve very unfair to bar them from the appointment, especially as no men- tion of Welsh being required was made in the advertisement. Mr Roberts (the mover) said that he cast nq reflection upon any Englishman or Welshman. He wanted fairness for everybody (applause). Canon David Jones held that as several of the parishes were very Welsh, it was desirable to select a man to go among the people who; underst-ood bothW elh and English. Mr B. Fisher said that to introduce the ques- tion of Welsh and English just then was very; objectionable. The late collector was an Eng- lishman, though he had resided for many years in Wales, and he was sure that the rate- payers of these parishes had no reason to com- plain of him on that account, for he was a most. excellent collector. Mr p. H. McClement said that anyone adver- tising for a man in England would say that English was essential, and that was the Welsh- man's position in his own country. Mr D. 0. Williams said that the proposition! would not bar out any Englishman who could speak Welsh (hear, hear). The proposition was carried by 16 votes to I 14. Mr Taylor, Colwyn Bay, .said that many ap- plicants had not stated whether they knew Welsh or not. To be fair they should all be aisked. The Rev John Raymond observed that the Btoard had committed a most disgraceful ac- [ tion. How were they to know who could speak and understand Welsh or not? j The applications were then opened. Thtt applicants were:—Messrs Evan Williams, Old Trafford, Manchester; Joseph Thomas, 6, McKinley-terrace, Llaiidudno Junction Ed- ward Roberts, Colwyn Bay; David Richards, Yspytty, Bettwsycoed; A. R. Temple, The Willow, Deganwy; E. Evans Jones, Penmaen- mawr; H. J. Morpus, Wolverhampton Joseph Mooddy, Llandudno; W. D. Jones, Maenan, Llanrwst; F. H. Borthwick, Llanelian; 0. R. Owen, Caer Groes Farm, Llanrwst; D. S. Jones, Bromsgrove; O. Williams, Llanassa; 'W. J. Gregory, Colwyn Bay; Peter Jone.s, Castle Stores, Llanfairfechan; J. R. Evans, Beech Grove, Llandudno; H. R. Phillips, Cyn- las, Penmaenmawr; T. M. Jones, Chester -House, Llandudno Junction; D. C. Griffith, Denbigh Llewelyn Roberts, Penmaenmawr and A. J. OldiMan, Deganwy. Although the appointments had been adver- tised separately, it was decided by 22 votes to nine to appoint one man to do all the collect- ing. The Board then proceeded to vote on each name seriatim, without reading any testi- monials. All those not receiving one-third of the votes of the members present were struck out. The following survived the ordeal: — Messrs A. R. Temple, 18; Joseph Mooddy, 14; Peter Jones, 10; J. R. Evans, 13; b. C- Griffith, 17; Llewellyn Roberts, 10; A. Jo. Oldman, 16. Oti the next division, the fol- lowing four survived Messrs Temple, 18; Mooddy, 13; D. C. Griffith, 18; A. J. Oldman, 10. In the fourth division Mr Temple ob- tained 18 votes; Mr Mooddy, 14; and Mr D. C. Griffith, 13. The final voting was: Mr Temple, 18; Mr Mooddy, 12. The election of Mr Temple w7as unanimously agreed to. Mr Temple is a clerk in the employ of Messrs Chamberlain and Johnson, in whose service he has been for 18 years. He under- stands and can speak Welsh fluentlv. Mr Mooddy has been for eleven years a-ssistant col- lector to Mr John Btellis, who is retiring.

THE CARNARVON MILITIA. COUNTY COUNCIL'S PROTEST. SNUBBING WEL&H PATRIOTISM AND NATIONALITY. SUGGESTED APPEAL TO THE KING. The proposal to disband the 4th Battalion Royal Welsh Fusiliers, otherwise known as the Carnarvonshire and Merionethshire Mili- tia, provoked a long discussion and several vigorous pretests at a special meeting of the Carnarvonshire County Council, held at Car- narvon, on Saturday, the chairman iMr. Maurice Jones) presiding. The meeting was convened to consider the advisability of cup- porting the application of the Carnarvon Town Council that the town of Carnarvon should remain the headquarters of the bat- talion and that the permanent staff of the battalion be retained in the town. Air Issard Davies moved that the Council protest against the proposed abandonment of Carnarvon as a military centre. Carnarvon had been the home of the 4th Battalion Royal Welsh .Fusiliers for a great number of years, and the battalion had always received the greatest welcome in the town. Within a radius of 20 miles there was a population of 200,000, and he ventured to say that there was not a recruiting area in the whole of North Wales where they could get men of finer physique than in that district. There were military centres in Wrexham and Shrewsbury, but he failed to set what claim those places had to represent Carnarvonshire and adjoining counties. It militated very much against the service to remove the centre for training so far outside a populous dis- trict. Carnarvon, which was easy of access by rail or water, had suifered considerable financial loss in recent years. The town had already lost the foundry, the training al- lege, and the Royal Naval Reserves, and tIllS meant a. financial loss of £ ll5,0Ou to £20,1.1.1 a year. Mr. J. R. Pritchard seconded the motion, and remarked that some people would no doubt sav that tradesmen supported the re- solution for commercial considerations. To a certain extent, that was true, because the abandonment of (Carnarvon as a military cen- tre would mean a seriou6 loss to the town. But he would discuss the resolution from an- other point of view entirely. There were some people who said that. the Territorial Army scheme wculd be a success, 'but others contended that it would be as great a failure as other schemes they had heard of had been. If any scheme was to be a success i^ must* have the 1 cordial support of the inhabitants of the dis- trict where the scheme was to be put in operation. Did the Government do anything to secure the cordial support of that most patriotic part of the country, the part that stood out longest against the English, and was never conquered? Why should North Wales be snubbed in the way it was? The Admiralty had removed the Royal Naval Re- serves from Carnarvon, with the result that the number of recruits had greatly decreased. In fact, the scheme which brought about that change had proved a failure. Welsh patriotism and nationality were being snub- bed 'by the present Government; like the one before it; and it would find out its mistake when it was too late (hear, hear). Some years ago Mr. Balfour contemptuously referred to Wales as de minimis non but he (the speaker) thought that in this matter Wales was not to be trifled with (cheers). Would they, under the new scheme, be able to get recruits when they had no place for the men to drill without sending them to Wrexham or to Shrewsbury ? There was not a single centre to be in Wales for the Ter- ritorial Army, whereas in Lancashire there were to be two. Why should Wales, where there were 18,000 Volunteers, be treated in this manner (hear, hear)? If the War Office did not listen to their appeal, he suggested that they PETITION THE KING, who had more common-sense than the whole lot of them put together (laughter and cheers). Let them present his Majesty with the essential facts, showing that Welsh na- tionalism was being snubbed, Welsh loyalty quenched, one of the best recruiting grounds in the kingdom ignored and insulted, for the present proposals were equal to telling them in Wales that the English Army did not want them, and preferred doing without them. Carnarvonshire, Anglesey, and Den- 4bighshire were joining in the protest made against the disbanding of the battalion. If they wanted to avoid conscription they must make it easy for young men to join the Army, and create good feeling between em- ployers and employed. Personally, he be. lieved that the Territorial Army scheme was :a step towards conscription (hear, hear). Members of the Council had undoubtedly read the memorial of the Carnarvon Town Council to the Army Council. It oontained etrong arguments in favour of the retention of Carnarvon as the headquarters of the 4th Battalion. Though they might hold different views as to the South African war, one fact deserved to be mentioned, namely, that 147 men belonging to the 4th Battalion served in that war, and the sum of E3,000 was col- lected in Carnarvonshire towards the support of the families of the men who went to South Africa (hear, hear). But in return for the patriotism then styown Carnarvonshire was to be treated in the way now proposed. Some people made bold to say that Noncon- formists were against .soldiers. Nothing of the (hear, hear). In the chapel to which he belonged seats were reserved for recruits, they were made welcome, and I hymn-books were provided for them. Young men who joined the Army ought to be treated with every respect (hear, hear). Mr. H. Llovd-Carter said that they should flbe careful as to the wording of the resolu- tion. He afeked Mr. Davies to word his re- solution so as to embody the views so well expressed by Mr. Pritchard. The resolution ought to be a protest against the disbanding of the Carnarvonshire and Merionethshire an they should n jt make it so mach a town matter (hear, hear). The resolution would have greater weight if it was made to express the wish of the inhabitants of Car- narvonshire, Anglesey, and Merioneth. Car- narvon was the military centre because it was the county town and centrally situated. Mr. R. Davies, who expressed himself in favour of the proposal, desired first of all to obtain information as to whether the granting of the Council's request would mean inter- fering with the re-organisation scheme of the cl Government for the whole country. Dr. R. A. Pritchard remarked that the strong point to be urged was that the authori- ti-es proposed to leave the Flintshire Batta- lion, which was weaker than that of Carnar- vonshire. Mr. R. Jones Roberts Are we interfering with the new scheme of Armv re-organisa- tion? I shall vote in accordance with the reply given to that question. Mr. J. Issard Davies I am under the im- pression that the eld order of things has been done away with, and that a new order of things has been brought into existence, and we want a place under the new order. Mr. D. P. Vv illiams said that the question raised 'by Mr. R. Davies was a very proper one. Would the retention of the bateaujn at Carnarvon interfere with 'Mr. Haldan-s arrangements? Col. H. Lloyd Mostyn. who is in command of the 4th Battalion, said that the battalion first appeared in the Army list in 1780, and was one of the oldest in the country, and it had now reached a high standard of effici- ency. There were no third-class she's in it, and he hoped there would scon be exhibited at Carnarvon two trophies, one won by the officers and another by the men in an open competition against all the Militia battalions of the United Kingdom (hear, hear). Car- narvonshire and Merionethshire, need, how- [ ever, not be without a Mi.itia battalion. There were additional battalions to be reaised and the counties in question could, if they desired, support a movement for raising an extra battalion. If the present staff of the 4th Battalion was moved, the town of Car- narvon would lose annually about L4,000 or -P £ 5,000, Mr. J. Jones Morris inquired why Car- narvon should not -be the headquarters of whatever was substituted for the 4th Batta- lion. Col. Lloyd Evans, who has been associated with the battalion for 25 years, supported the resolution, adding that if the district had given more support to the battalion in the past the present difficulty mignt have been obviated. A SUPPORTER OF DISBANDMEJNiT. ,-Air. W. J. Parry, as an amendment, moved the omission of .all words after "that." He expressed his entire approval of the action of the Government in removing the headquar- ters of the battalion from Carnarvon, and was sorry that the Government had not. gone further and abolished military preparations altogether. (Mr. Issard Davies: "'Rubbish.") That was his feeling in the matter, and he was entitled to express it. He did not be- lieve that the L4,000 or 25,000 spent annu- ally at Carnarvon by reason -of the presence of the Militia compensated for the mischief done while the battalion was up. During that period the towns of Carnarvon and Wrexfyam had a character which was cer- tainly not an enviable one. For that reason he would not vote for any resolution for re- taining the Militia at 'Carnarvon. Ir. J. Jones Morris: If the disbanding of the battalion is to take place, let us get the next best thing to it. It is a pity that this country is put to the expense of maintaining ian Army in times of peace, but we cannot disarm while other nations are arming. Eventually a committee was appointed to draft a resolution, and on their behalf Ir. Lloyd-Carter moved the following:—"That this Council protests in the strongest terms against the proposed abandonment of Car- narvon as a centre for military headquarters, and respectfully petitions the Secretary of State for War to retain a battalion in the county town, and that a deputation be ap- pointed to wait upon Mr. Haldane in sup- port of the petition." Mr. J. R. Hughes seconded. Mr. W. J. Parry moved his amendment, which was seconded by Mr. R. Jones Roberts, on the grounds that it had not been explained to him whether the retention of the battalion would affect the general scheme. The resolution was thereupon carried, there being only two dissentients. The Chairman, the Lord Lieutenant (Mr. Greaves), Colone' Lloyd Evans, and Mr. Jones Morris were ap- pointed on the deputation, and it was de- cided to invite the members of Parliament for Carnarvonshire, Anglesey, and Merion- e.thshire to join them. THE COUNTY ASSOCIATION. With regard to the appointment of repre- sentatives on the County Association under the Territorial and Reserve Forces Act, 1907, Mr. Davies, M.P., observed that the only democratic element in the Association would be the County Council, and it was essential that civilians should be elected, leaving other members to be nominated by the military authorities. He moved the app-ointment of the Chairman of the Council for the time being, Mr. Jones Morris, Mr. Fisher, and Mr. Charles A. Jones. Mr. J. R. Pritchard suggested that the matter be deferred until it was known what the report of the deputation would be. The resolution, however, was agreed to. DEPUTATION APPOINTED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL. At a meeting of the Carnarvon Town Council, on Tuesday night, it was reported that copies of resolutions passed at a special Council meeting on the 19th ult., with re- ference to the proposal of the War Office to disband the 4th Battalion R.W.F., had been forwarded to the .Secretary of State for War, and to the three members of Parliament re- presenting the county. Acknowledgments had been received from the War Office and Mr. D. Lloyd-George; and Mr. W. Jones, who had been interviewed bv the Town Clerk, had promised to support the movement initiated by the Council. Mr. E. W. Davies, in a letter, stated that he had written the Secretary of State for War with regard to the question of the headquarters of the Welsh division. iCouncillor T. Armstrong .chairman of the Volunteer Committee) submitted the report of a committee held that day, which stated that resolutions against the disbanding of the bat- talion had boen passedjby the Carnarvonshire Quarter Sessions and County Council. The committee recommended that the Town Coun- cil appoint a deputation to work in conjunc- tion with the deputation appointed by the County 'Council to wait upon Mr. Haldane. The recommendation was adopted, .and the Mayor, Councillor Armstrong, Dr. John Evans, and (Mr. WThiskin were appointed. THE BATTALION'S FINE RECORD. By a Military Correspondent). Although the 4th Battalion Royal Welsh •Fj,* is one of the twenty-three to be disbanded under the new Territorial Scheme, it is in all respects, except in point of num- bers, efficient. In this battalion there is no deficiency of officers, but for a number of years it has mustered some two hundred be- low í3 authorised establishment. The conduct of the non-commissioned offi- cers and men at Conway last June, where the regiment, about 460 in number, trained, was excellent. The Brigadier-General was satisfied with the drill, discipline, and inter- ior economy, and there were about 200 marks- men. As battles are won by marching, discipline and good shooting, it will be seen that the officers have worked well to make the regi- ment efficient, and with some success. The officers, not only take a keen interest in the men's shooting, but fire the annual course themselves, and they are winners this year of the Red Dragon Cup, presented by Col. W. Watts, C.iB., commanding the 3rd Battalion, Welsh Regiment, to be held from year to year by the officers of the Welsh unit, including the Royal Engineer Militia, which will make the best average in the musketry course, and 'in which regiment all the com- pany officers present at training shall have fired. This cup has been won by Col. Watts' (the donor's) regiment for three years, but is now in the possession of the 4th Battalion Royal Welsh Fusiliers, the top scorer being Lieut. J. Ormrod. The Commanding Officer, Colonel Hon. H. Lloyd Mostyn, and the second in command, Lieut.-Col. H. Jones-Williams, are to be con- gratulated on wresting this trophy from the present holders. The non-commissioned officers and men have this year failed to win the miniature rifle trophy, which was theirs a year ago, but have secured a more important success by winning the Bingham Cup, presented by Col. Sir John E. Bingham, Bart., for an inter-company match, rapid firing, open to all regiments in England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. This competition is intended to show what can be attained under service conditions, and a chal- lenge cup is held by the winning company for one year, a miniature cup becomes the pro- perty of the captain, and each man of the winning team receives a pound. As there are some nine hundred companies eligible to compete, only men perfectly skilled in the use of the rifle stand a chance of success, and the competition, supervised by selected officers of other regiments, is always watched with keen mterest. The target it 3ft. by 8ft., and eight sclented men from one company face the target at a distance of 600 yards. Each man is piCTmitted to charge hi? rifle magazine with five rounds, and when the whistle sounds fires from his magazine and then from his ponnch as fast as he can for 60 seconds. This performance is repeated! at 500 yards, and every d:rect hit counts one point. I The -T;iilg" Rcy-31 Rifles won this trophy a year ago, with 109 hits; this year Captain E. B. Jones, C. Company, of the 4th Battalion Royal Welsh Fusiliers, have won the cup and the money prize with the abnormal score of 124 direct hits, an average of loj hits per man. The men of the disbanded battalion will, in a few days, each receive a notive giving the conditions of service in the Reserve Bat- talion, the headquarters of which is to be located at Wrexham.

CARNARVON TOWN COUNCIL Corporation and Private Gas Fittings PETITION BY PLUMBERS. The monthly meeting of the Council was held on Tuesday evening, under the presidency of the Mayor (Councillor R. Gwyneddon Davies). There were also present: Aldermen lt>; Parry, D. T. Lake, E. Hughes, R. Thomas, and J. P. Gregory; Councillors (Nee, J. Prichard, W. Lloyd Griffith, T. Armstrong, J. 0. Evans, A. Richards, D. T. -Edwards, Rees Hughes, P. I Angel, H. Lloyd-Carter, 'E. Parry, 0. Evans, W. G. Thomas, together with Messrs R. 0. Roberts (town clerk), A. Holden (deputy-town clerk), E. Hall (surveyor), E. Roberts (sanitary inspector), W. M. Ruxton (gas manager), G. H. Humphreys (treasurer), and J. Williams! (collector). FREEDOM OF THE BOROUGH. At a meeting of the Finance Committee, the Mayor, Chairman t(Alderman Lake), and the I Town Clerk were appointed a sub-committee to draft the address to be presented to the Right Hon. D. Lloyd-George, M.P., and ar- range for tenders and designs for thil casket to be submitted by local tradesmen and others. COLLECTION. The statement of collection submitted to the Finance Committee showed that the total col- lected from 25th March to date was £ 7325 116 8d, as compared with E7645 Os 3d for the corresponding period of last year, a decrease of L320 Ils 5d. PROBATION OF OFFENDERS' ACT, 1907. It was resolved that the remuneration of the two probation officers appointed by the magistrates—Captain Griffith (Church Army) and Miss Evans—in respect of each case be 8s for the first three months, with an additional 4s for each succeeding .period of three months up to a year, and out-of-pocket expenses. GAS RENTS, &c. The Gas Committee reported that the sum collected in gas rents, etc., from 25th March to date was JB4696 18s 5d, as compared with L4875 18s lid for the corresponding period of 1906. SALE OF COKE. Councillor J. Prichard understood that townspeople had a difficulty in obtaining coke at the gasworks in tsmall quantities, whereas people from without the borough had no diffi. culty in getting even twenty tons. He ven- tured to say that the townspeople should be served first. Alderman R. Parry I( chairman of the Gas Committee) Of course, we ought, as a com- mittee, to supply the consumers in the town. The ratepayers have first choice in the matter, but sometimes we have a difficuHy in getting

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NOTES ON FOOTBALL. HiOLYHlEAJD RESERVES WIX. The third round for the North Wales Coast Cup was played at Holyhead on Saturday, when a local reserve team met .Beaumaris. The visitors put out a strong team, but the ,homesters although a trifle nervous played a determined game and worried the Beaumarig men sadly. Half time score was Holyhead 1, Beaumaris nil, R. C. Jones having got a grand goal. The homesters added three more during the second half, through J. Jones (Wallis), Davies E'vans, and R. C. Jones, and had a clear lead of four goals before Beaumaris scored which they did through Poole, the same player soon afterwards adding another. Finally Holyhead won by four goals to two. The re- suit shows, that there are some splendid reserves at !Holyhead, amd they certainly ought to be encouraged, for their display was declared by many to be as good as that of the iirst team, PWLLHiELI ITEMS. The Juniors gave a very cr-ditable display on Saturday, when they played Barmouth on the latr's ground. It looked great odds on their snatching a victory as they were actually leading by two goals when; half time was call- ed. All the more credit is due to them as they played with only ten men during the in- itial part of the match. ■0*1* The homesters however in the second half rallied and succeeded in making the scores level by netting the ball twice. They were greatly aided by tiiie wind as it was blowing c practically half a gale during the second half. The game became very exciting; towards the end, • • There was some brilliant individual play, amongst those who distinguished themselves, being Bohana, who played a capital game at centre, G. Roberts and R. Griffith as wingers, Hughes and Rowlands the two backs. The cutodian, W. Jonea, "held the fort" with his customary skill.

SHIPPING PORT.MADOO. A!R!RIVED.—[Rebecca, s.s., Captain Roberts, from Liverpool. iSAILED.—iSnowdon. Captain Rees, to New- iport; Garibaldi, Jorgensen, Copenhagen; Re- becca, s.s., Roberts, Liverpool. CARNARVON. ARRffiV'E'O.Stanley, Captain Edward?, from Liverpool,- Duke of York, Atherton, Run- corn; May Fly, Atherton. Runcorn; Christ- iana, iGriffithe, Liverpool; Craignair, Wil- liams, Liverpool; Eleanor, Jones, Connah's Quay; Trevor. 'Bettley, Liverpool; pride of the Weaver, Teretta, Liverpool. iSLAIIjED.—Stanley^ Captain Edwards, tor .Portnant; May Fly, Atherton, Portdinorwic Christiana, Griffiths, Liverpool; 'Craignair, Williams, tPenmaenmawr; Eleanor, Jones, Britford; Trevor, Bettley, Penmaenmawr.

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rid of the coke, and we have contracted, and in that case a large quantity has gone outside the town. PRIVATE GAS FITTING. At the Gas Committee, a petition was read from the plumbers of the town, objecting to the Corporation undertaking private gas fitting work and the supply of gas burners and brac- kets. After considering the petition, the com- mittee were unanimously of opinion that in view of the keen competition of electricity, it ■wa« essential to the interests of the gas under- taking that the manager should spare no effort in demonstrating the advantages of gas for lighting purposes. To this end he must be prepared to give advice whenever called upon by the private consumer. With regard to the alterations of internal services or supply of fittings, it was resolved that the manager should refer the consumers to their plumbers for this work; at the same time offering to supply the plumbers with any information they might require as to the fittings which he might suggest should be adopted. In the event of the consumer not being able to get satisfac- tion from his own plumber, then rather than lose the consumer to electricity, the manager must do the best he can. Councillor Angel asked whether it was a fact that gas fittings had been supplied by the Gas Committee at cost price. Alderman Parry: That is not so. Alderman rE. Hughes said that there was an impression in the town that fittings were sup- plied at cost price, and that plumbers were complaining that they would not be able to get a living under such circumstances. It should be made clear 'whether the fittings were sold at cost price or not. Alderman Parry I have already answered that they are not. Alderman Hughes remarked that, therefore, it was not right to blame the Gas Committee or the Corporation. The Gas Manager at- tended gas exhibitions in different parts of the country, and he would be able to advise local plumbers as to the best fittings to use. Councillor Rees Hughes said that the peti- tioners objected to the Corporation undertak- ing private gas fitting work, because it de- prived them of work. The Mayor: The minute as it is is perfectly clear. Councillor Rees Hughes How long has the Corporation been doing private gas fitting work? Alderman Parry: It has always been the habit of the Corporation to do some amount of private work, but they never put themselves in the position of plumbers in the town, and they do not intend to. At the same time, it was of the utmost importance that the Gas Committee should be allowed a free hand so that they fire not ousted by the electricity undertaking. Mr Ruxton was willing to do what he could for private consumers and fori the plumbers in the town, and to advise as to the best means of lighting a place. There were fome people who would not have private plum- ¡ bers, and Mr Ruxton did' the work, but he al- ways charged the regular price. The Gas Committee has not acted unfairly towards the plumbers, and it is not our desire 'to oust them. (PRIVATE SLAUGHTEK HOUSES. The question as to whether the private slaughter houses in the occupation of Mr Owen James Elias, and the representatives of the late Mr Ellis Jones, are "ancient slaughter houses" or "licensed slaughter houses" under the Towns Improvement Clauses Act, 1847, was considered by a sub-committee of the Sanitary Committee, and it was resolved that the Chairman (Councillor Nee) and Councillor H. Lloyd-Carter and the Town Clerk draw a case for opinion of counsel, and that the same be submitted to the committee for approval. HUMANE CATTLE KILLER. Councillor Nee (chairman of the Sanitary Committee) said that the local inspector of the R.S.P.C.A. attended at the slaughter house recently, and explained the advantage of using the humane animal killer. Mr Assheton-Smith, who takes a great interest 'in the work of the Society, was also present, and he had very kindly presented the Corporation with six of the humane killers. Councillor H. Lloyd- Carter had also presented the Corporation with two similar contrivances. Councillor Lloyd-Carter suggested that the killers be placed in charge of the Slaughter House Keeper, and that efforts be made to get aJir butchers to use them. The butchers pre- sent at the slaughter house when the inspector attended expressed their warm approval of the killers, and would, he believed, use them. He was told that one or two might not. There was an absurd idea abroad that animals did not bleed so freely as they did when the pole- axe was used. The pole-axe had been con- demned as a most cruel instrument in all well- regulated slaughter houses. Councillor Angel asked whether the com- mittee would have power to supply cartridges free for the killer. Councillor Nee thought a small charge might be made for the use of the killers. Proceed- ing, Mr Nee said that when Mr North, the Local Government Board Inspector, recently held an inquiry with reference to an applica- tion for a loan to carry out ^improvements at the slaughter house, he showed the Board's re- gulations which condemned the use of the pole- axe. It was understood that the Inspector would recommend a loan upon the Corporation pro- mising that the humane killer would be used instead of the pole-axe. A vote of thanks was accorded Mr Assheton- Smith and Councillor Lloyd-Carter. HOUSES IN MOUNTAIN STREET. A report was received from the Medical Officer of Health, stating that in their present condition he was of opinion that 18-28, Mountain-street, were so dangerous to health that they were unfit for occupation. It wa4s resolved that the Town Clerk be in- structed to take the necessary steps to obtain a closing order. THE PROPOSED ROAD THROUGH TWTHILL BACH. At a meeting of the Highway Committee, the Chairman '(Alderman R. Thomas) reported having), together with Councillors W. G. Tho- mas and 'W. Lloyd Griffith and the Surveyor, had an interview with Mr Greaves with refer- ence to the subject of his terms in regard to the above, and that Mr Greaves was firm on the question of compensating the tenant for the damage and disturbance that would be caused to him in the carrying out of the road, and that the least sum he thought the tenant would accept would be P,20 to cover everything. Mr Greaves personally asked for nothing from I the Corporation other than this solicitor's I charges in making out the necessary agree- ment, etd. It was recommended that Mr Greaves' offer be provisionally accepted, and that the sub-committee next see Mr Darbishire, the ex-Mayor, concerning his offer to contri- bute the sum of JB50 towards the cost of pur- chasing Mrs Farren's land, and oome to an understanding with the parties concerned in the Roman Catholic Chapel and School build- ings at 'East Twthill, in regard to the altera- tions that would have to be executed at the front and side of these premises, and complete all other preliminary matters as far as possible, before again applying to Mr Assheton-Smith for the renewal of his offer. Alderman Thomas said that the sub-commit- tee. had seen Mr Darbishire, but he did not make a promise. He said that they were not going about the matter in a businesslike way, and that they were a long time about it. It was estimated that. the cost of the road would be L620, which, if they received Mr Darbi- shire's £ 50. would be reduced to R570. The question now was whether the committee were to go further and see Mr Assheton-Smith. Dr Parry thought the committee should fur- nish the Council with fuller particulars. The recommendation of the committee was I adopted. THE UNEMPLOYED. A letter was read at the Highway Commit- tee from the Clerk to the Carnarvonshire Coun- ty Council asking to be furnished with infor- mation as to work done by the Council for the benefit of the unemployed, and the number of men who had work during the last winter, and whether the Council would co-operate with the County Council in ascertaining the number of men out of work, etc. The committee resolved that a reply drafted by the Surveyor be sent to the communication received. Councillor A. Richards wished to know what was the nature of the letter .senV The Surveyor replied that the Town Council had already moved in the matter, that P,60 had been spent in wages, and that it had been de- cided not to employ outsiders to do work in the town.

Councillor A. Richards said that the matter was a very serious one for the town and county, and he thought the Town Council should lay the case of the unemployed before the County Council with a view to the latter body making an application to the Local Government Board for a share of the money set apart for the bene- fit of the unemployed. Carnarvonshire was suffering more than any other county in the country owing to the severe depression in the slate trade, and the number of unemployed in the county was, therefore, very large. Councillor W. G. Thomas and Alderman Parry agreed with what Councillor Richards had said. Alderman Parry said that the re- presentatives of the town on the County Coun- cil ought certainly to urge, the claim of the county to a share of the fund set apart by the Local Government Board. It would not be wise for the Town Council itself to apply to the Local Government Board for a portion of the money. Councillor Richards moved that the County Council be urged to apply for a grant from the Imperial fund, and that the Town Council render assistance in cvery way possible. Alderman R. Parry seconded the motion, which was adopted, 'PUBLIC FOOTPATHS. It was reported that Alderman R. Thomas and Councillors E. Parry, M. E. Nee, and Ran- leigh Jones, and the Surveyor had inspected the public paths leading from the Bethel-road to Crug-road; and through Pengelli Farm, and along the occupation road serving B'ryn- glas and Caegarw to the Llanberis-road. Alderman Thomas said that the path leading from Bethel-road to Crug-road had been inter- I fered with, one of the stiles having been re- moved. The old stile on the other oath was still to be seen, and Mr Owen Parry, one of the Corporation employees, remembered the path in good order. THE BARRAS CHANNEL. It was reported that the dragging of the 11 Barras Channel had so far been carried out with satisfactory results. LIGHTING OF THE TOWN. The Lighting Committee reported that Ald- erman !Richard Thomas and Councillors J. Fletcher, Edward Parry, and Rees W. Hughes, the Gas Manager and Surveyor, visited various parts of the town respecting which applications had been received as to the better hghtng of the same. It was recommended as fjJiows: — 1. That a lamp and bracket bt. provided on the town wall at lower end of C.zr,.e Dif h, so as to throw light on the urinai ana fiont of Police Station. 2. That a lamp and bl't"k;. t be provided on the front of one cf the row of houses in Crown-street. 3. That the lamp- post at corner of Eryri-terrace be ieplac-xi by a wall bracket. 4. That a wall brnjket and lamp be provided at corner of stable at rear of Thomas-street and Victoria*sti,'eet. 5. That the pillar lamp now at upper end of Thomas- street be placed at a lower point on the oppo- site side of the road, so as to throw a light into the adjacent lane. 6. That the additional light for the lane in question be a wall lamp placed near the upper end of the lane between Edward-street and Hill-street.. 7. That a oost and lamp bo provided at a suitable point in Sidney-road. Alderman Gregory complained that the East- ern Ward was being altogether neglected, and he suggested that a lamp should be placed in the centre of Uxbridge-street. The Mayor said that the members forming the deputation were Eastern Ward representa- tives (laughter). Councillor Nee: It shows their generosity (laughter). Alderman R. Parry asked if the committee had thought who was going to pay for the ex- tra lighting proposed. It was all very well to speak of extra lamps, but was there any provi- sion in the estimates for them? They were aware that the Gas Committee was paying 2s 6d per ton more for coal this year than last year, and that the expenditure was conse- quently greater by L400 or L500. Last year the gasworks yielded a handsome profit, but he was afraid they would be deprived of that this year. Councillor W. G. Thomas thought the depu- tation would have gone through the .Eastern Ward to see what was required. The question of expense was one that would have to be dealt with at the proper time. Councillor O. Evans said that comDlainis came to the Council that lamps were required in various parts of the town, and a deputation was appointed to visit those places. No com- plaint came from the Eastern Ward. Alderman Parry said that the annual cost of the upkeep of each lamp would be J32 10s. Councillor W. G. Thomas moved that the whole question be referred back to the com- mittee for further consideration. They must I first of all consider the question of expense. The motion having been seconded, Alderman R. Thomas explained that the cost of the extra lamps would be between £ 30 and JB53, and their upkeep L12 10s a year. It was useless to refer the matter back to the com- mittee, as they would only have the same re- port to submit. Councillor W. G. Thomas We must try to keep within the estimates, and these extra I lamps are not included in tne estimates for this year. councillor J. 0. Evans said that it seemed that some of the members were getting econo- i mical over small matters, whereas money had been spent upon things that were of little good to the town. He supported the recommenda- tions of the committee. Councillor Nee 'remarked that it was absurd to ask a number of gentlemen to go round the town, and then refuse to adopt their recommen- dations. If the Eastern 'Ward representatives had neglected their duty, they would have to face the electors. Councillor O. Evans said that an accident would happen some day in the alley by T wt. hill Church unless it was better lighted. The Mayor explained that out of P,30 esti- mated for lighting this year, £ 28 had already been spent. Councillor J. Prichard Some remarks have been made abouv the representatives of the Eastern Ward. There is no recommendation that lamps be put up in the Eastern Ward, and the representatives of that Ward look so well aft-er the interests of their constituents that they have no complaints to make (laughter). Councillor W. G. Thomas withdrew his amendment, and the recommendations of the committee were tadopted. It was explained that it was the intention of the committee to use incandescent, lamps at each end of Ux- bridge-street, in order to throw more light into the street. RAILWAY MATTERS. At a meeting of the General Purposes Com- mittee, a letter was read from Mr W. Parry, station master, acknowledging a letter received relating to cheap bookings from Llanb-eris, Nantlle, etc., and facilities to school children, and stating that the same had been referred to the District Superintendent, who had promised to look into the matters, and meet the commit- tee thereon as soon as possible. A letter re- ceived by Alderman J. T. Roberts from Mr Home in regard to the suggested facilities to school children, was handed in by the Chair- man for use at the coming interview. The Chairman reported that a number of people I from Anglesey called upon him on last market day to see whether the Council could get the railway company to issue market tickets from Amlwch to Carnarvon, as done from Rho&- goch, Llanerchymedd, and Llangefni. Atten- tion was called to the fact that the accommoda- tion for passengers is often insufficient on the Afonwen Branch. The Mayor said that a deputation from the Council had an interview with Mr Home that day, and were favourably received. Mr Home said that the question of an additional service to Llanberis and Nantlle, the issuing of cheap tickets 'from those places, as well as from w, Chwilog and Afonwen and from Amlwch, and the stopping of the four o'clock summer train at Dinas for the sake of school children, would receive every consideration. With regard to the request for a motor 'bus service, Mr Home gave a reply in the negative, and said that the company had considered the, matter definitely, j Mr Home also said that he would attend to tho complaints as to the overcrowding of trains. A PARTY VOTE. An election of a representative of the Coun. cil on the Harbour Trust, in place of Alderman J D. 1. Lake, who had resigned, wok place Councillor W. G. Thomas moved the appoint- ) ment of Councillor D. T. Edwards, and Coun- cillor Nee proposed Councillor Angel. Both motions weie seconded. The voting was equal each receiving eight votes. The Mayor gave his casting vote for Councillor D. T. Edwards. All the Conservatives, with one exception supported Councillor Angel, and all the Lib, erals and one Conservative, voted for Coun- cillor Edwards. I