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':t!:, WELbH CENTKAL BOAHD.
':t! WELbH CENTKAL BOAHD. Iill^QRTAXT MiEETIXiGiS AT SHPvEWS^ iBURY. The Central Board of Intermediate Educa- tion in Wales held its first meeting (alter being fully constituted) at Shrewsbury on Friday and Saturday, under the presidency of Mr A. 0. Humphreys-Owen, M.P. The following is a list of those present (C.C. de- noting representatives of County Councils and C. G. B. representatives of County Governing Bodies):—■ Ex-officio members Principal Roberts, Aberystwyth Principal Reichet, Bangor Principal Viriamu Jones, Cardiff. Anglesey G.C. Mr Lewis Hughes, Am- lwch. Brecon C.C. Coilonel W. Jones-Thomas. C.G.B. Commander Algernon E. Thomas. Cardigan C.C. The Rev Llewellyn Ed- wards. C.G.B. Professor Edward Anwyl. Carmarthenshire C.C. Lieutenant-General Sir James Hills-Johncs, V.C. C.G.B. The Rev John Davies, Llandilo. Carnarvonshire (C.C. Mr C. H. Darbi- ghire, Penmaenmawr. C.G.B. Mr D. P. Williams, Llanberis. Denbigh iC.o. Captain Griffith- B'ooc.a.wen. C.G.B. Mr Thomas Gee, Mr John Evan Powelll, Wrexham. Flintshire C.C. Mr Herbert Lewis, M.P. Glamorgan C.C. Mr J. Blandy Jenkins, Rev Aaron tDavies, 1M¡r Llewelyn Davies, Jjatndore; lAjlderman John 'jTones-Griffixhs, Penygraig. C.G.B. Mr Ð. P. Davies, Mr T. Manse] Franklen, Mr Oliver Henry Jones, Mr W il'liam Llewelyn. Merioneth C.C. CUr T. E. Etlis, M.P. C.G.B. Mr Edward Jones, M.D. Montgomeryshire C.C. Mr A. C. Hum- phreys-Owen, M.P. Monmouthshire C.C. Alderman J. Jones, Arbercarne; Councillor J. Daniel. Aber- syeliau. C.G.B. Councillor J. D. Thomas. Pembrokeshire C.C. Mr George Griffith, M.D. C.G.B. Rev (Lewis James. Cardiff C.C. Councillor Edward Thomas. C.G.B. Mr John Duncaln and Alderman W. Sanders. Newport C.C. Councillor Moses Wheeler. C.G.B. Alderman Thomas Jones. ISwansea C.C. Alderman Richard Martin. C.G.B. Mrs M. B. Williams, Councillor T. Freeman. University College of WTales—Council Mr D. C. Huberts. Senate Air Foster Watson, M. A. University College of North Wales—Coun- cil C. Davies. Senate Professor Frederic Spencer. University College of South Wales1—Coun- cil Mr ILewis Williams. Senate Professor Thomas Powell. Jesus College Oxford Principal Rhys, M.r W. M. Lindsay, M.A. Headmaster and Mistresses of County In- termediate Schools in North Wales Mr W. Glynnc Williams, Banger Miss Ellen Louise Nott, Newtown. Headmasters and Mistresses of County Intermediate Schools in South Wales Dr G. Sherbrook Turpin, Swansea; Mr Edgaff W. Jones, (MaTidiilo; Miss Catherine Dtavies, Lla.nelly. Representatives of Certificated Teachers in Public Elementary Schools in North Wales Mr Henry Bedford, Abergele; Mr WilHiam Tegatrty, Bangor. Representatives of Certificated Teachers in Public Elementary Schools in South Wales Mr Walter Brockington, Cardiff Mr Tom. John, Llwynypia; Mass Hannah Williams, Cardiff. University of Wales Mr Charles Owen, Merthyr Tydnl; Ms- J. Trevor Owen, Car- narvon 'Professor R. W. Phillips, M.A., Bangor; Lady Verney, Bucks. Co-operative: Miss Collin, Cardiff; Miss Hughes, Training Oollege, Cambridge; Miss Ivendal, Llandaff; Mr D. E. Jones, Chief Examiner Science and Art Department, Car- diff Hon. G. T. Kenyon, Llainetrch Panna, Eilesmere. Letters expressing regret for absence were received: from Mrs Glynne Jones, Bangor; Mr 8: C. Bosanquet, Monmouth Aldermaai Edward Grove. Newport; Air P. P. Pen- nant, Flint; 'Mr Lloyd Griffith, Holyhead Mr Gwilym Evans. CHAIRMAN AND YICEhCEAIEMAIn In proposing the eleotion of Mr Hum- ■phreys-Owen as chairman for the ensuing year, Mr Llewellyn Davies (Swansea) alluded to the efficient manner in which the work had been done during the past year. The resolution was seconded by Dr Edward Jones, DoHgeliey, and carried unanimously. Air Humphreys-Owen said it was a matter of great pride to him to preside on that his- toric occasion of the full meeting of the Central Board of Intermediate Education in Wales. He hoped the work they were now beginning was one which would last for many generations, and would leave its impress upon the life of the country, and raise and widen it for ages to come. Principal Viriamu Jones (Cardiff) was un- animously elected vice-chairman. EliEOTION OF EXECUTIVE COM- MITTEE. The principal business of the conference was the election of the executive committee. —A motion by Mr J. E. PoAvelU to allocate representation on the committee to the differ- ent classes making up the board was lost.—. Nominations were then invited, and there were successive votings. The third vote stood ca follows: Mr Tom. John, 35 Principal Relchel, 29; Principal Roberts, 23 Dr Ismnbaird Owen, 23 and 20 votes each for Mr Edgar Jones, Principal Rhys, and 3rr Trevor 0wen. Mr Tom. John, and Principal iReichel, were declared elected, and the names of the others were again voted upon.—Fourth vote :—Principal Roberts, 31; Dr Isambard Owen, 19; Mr Edgar Jones, 14; Mr Trevor Owen, 13; Principal Rhys, 5. Principe Roberts was declared elected. The name of Principal Rhys was eliminated. —Fifth vote •—Dr Isambard Owen, 15 M? Trevor Owen, 7; Air Edgar Jones, 5. Dr Isambard Owen was elected.—In the voting for the election of seven members from other members of the board, the result was de- clared to be in, favour of Professor Ajiwyl, Alderman Aaron Davies, Air Mansel Frank- len, Alderman J. Jones-Griffiths, Mr Herbert Lewis, M.P., Mr Humphreys-Owen, M.P., Mr P. P. Pennant, and Mr J. E. Powell. ENTRANCE SCHOLARSHIPS. MJss Œ!f.-tnlna.}1\ (W|iHiiaaTi(St(|Cardiff) brought forward' the question of the advisability of having a uniform method of examination for entrance scholarships! to Welsh Intermediate Schools, and a very interesting discussion followed.—Eventually Miss Hannah Williams accepted an amendment, proposed by Mr Herbert Lewis, and which was carried in this form.: — "That the scholarf^iip committee inquire to what extent, if at all, it is possible or desirable to adopt a uniform method of ex- amination for entrance scholarships in the Welsh Schools, and that they report to a future meeting of this board." PREMATURE WITHDRAWAL OF SCHOLARS. Mir W. Glynne Williams (Bangor) moved "That^steps be talk en by modification cf the Welsh Intermediate Education Act, or otherwise, to mitigate the evil of the prema- ture withdrawal of scholars from the schools." He referred to those who were in the enjoy- ment of schcHarships and in receipt of public money, and the practice of some parents of withdrawing the scholars from the secondary school after only one year's tuition was mis- chievous. N"ot only did the scholar re- ceive no benefit, but he was Dositivelv harmed and wou d have done much better to have remained m the Elementary School. It was !n=! (the speaker's) experience that of the children elected to scholarships, which con- sisted in first instance of total remission of fees, fulfv one-third were withdrawn at the end of the first year by the parents, who had never paid a penny in support of the boys' tuition in the Secondary School. This was a nositive waste of public money. His idea was that the only way to remedy the matter was ■- ~rv W- 4 by legislation, that no scholarship should in the first instance have a greater value than half the tuition fees. Then, at the end of the year, the question might be considered whether the buy shoutd be promoted to a full scholarship covering the whole of the tuition fees.—Mr J. E. Powell pointed out that in this matter it was for the governing bodies in awarding scholarships to lay down such conditions as would make impo.ssib.e the evil complained of by the last speaker.—• The Rev Aa-ron Davies urged that it was too soon to legislate.—'Several speakers urged that the evil was one of the past and not oi the future, and the motion, not having been seconded, fell through. MANUAL INSTRUCTION. On the motion of Principal I-teichel, it was resolved that the. attention of the county governing bodies and local governing bodies be drawn to the importance of manual train- ing as an element of secondary education and that in the opinion of the board it is important that a conference of representa- tives of governing bodies and teachers of Intermediate Schools should be arranged, in pursuance of Clause 40, Section B, of the scheme, for the consideration of the subject. —Mr T. E. ELlis, M.P., hoped the confer- ence would be held at an early date so that teachers ,nliight imake arrangement to go through the course next summer.—The re- solution was passed, it being understood that arrangements for the conference would be made by the executive. TEACHING OF WELSH*. Professor Powell, of Cardiff, moved "That the board urge upon the county governing bodies the great educational im- portance of introducing the Welsh language as a subject of instruction into all schools in Welsh-speaking districts." Principe Rhys warmly seconded the mo- tion, and said it ought to be a very easy mat- ter to make Welsh, which was often treated as mere gibberish, the means of culture and education, and the very effort to learn to write Welsh prose was as good an exercise as to write Latin prose (cheers).—(Professor Anwyl supported. Ulna experience a;s ex- a.miner was that Welsh could not be efficiently taught in schools until they had teachers in the schools competent to teach it.—Dr Ed- ward Jione« (r/o':lgellev) pointed out that Welsh was a compulsory subject in all schools in Merionethshire (hear, hear).—Air Edgar Jones (Llandilo), while supporting the re- solution, feared they had no books en Welsh history, Welsh geography, WeLsh grammar, Welsh literature, and Welsh geology that were adapted for use in Secondary Schools, and he hoped the board would soon take upon itself to inquire into these matters (cheers).—Rev Lewis James (Pembrokeshire) said that in his county they had, by appoint- ing a majority of Welsh-speaking teachers, placed themselves in a position to under- take the teaching of Welsh.—Mr J. E. Powell: (Wrexham) said that in that town the chil- dren who were mostly English were very desirous of being tanght Welsh (cheers).—Air Edward Thomas, J.P. (Cardiff), maintained that the knowledge of Welsh orthography, so far from having declined, had very much im- proved during the last few years.—Colonel Jones-Thomas, while considering himselif an enthusiastic Welshman, maintained' that if all the children were to spend their lives in Wales, a knowledge of Welsh would be de- sirable but under the present circum- stances he considered that the teaching of other languages was infinitely more important. ■—The Rev Aaron Davies pointed out that Welsh wa.s more largeEy spoken now than had ever been the case. There were large Welsh colonies in every large English towns, and even in America and Africa (cheers).—(Mr G. Williams (Bangor) urged the importance of settling the vexed question of Welsh ortho- graphy; while Lady Verney pointed out the value of the work accomplished in Scotland, where the children were taught all the his- torical and geological features of their own counties and parishes, and where the school- books 'bristled with quotations from Scott and Burns having reference to the country in the immediate locality of the schools (hear, hear). Her experience in Anglesey was that under the present system the Wetsh children were able to write and read English, but Rot tii1 speak it, wMle they could speak Welsh, but they were unable either to read it or write it grammatically.—(Mr Gee having further supported the resolution, it was put to the meeting and passed 'unanimously.— Professor Powell's second resolution, "That tke board suggest to the headmaster) con- ference the desirability of securing such un- iformity as is practicable in the adoption of set books in the various languages throughout the schools," was' withdrawn, Dr Turpin and others arguing that the schools should have freedom to develop on their own lines with special reference to the needs of their localities. MUSEUM GRANTS FOR WALES. On the motion of Mr Herbert Lewis, M.P., seconded'by Rev Aaron Davies and the Hon. George Kenyon, it was: resolved "That the board, being of opinion that it is unjust that Wales should receive no share of the museum grants for the United King- dom, respectfutly submit that Parliament should make provision similar to that made for Sc,thnd and Ireland for. the expendi- ture in Wales of a. due share of the museum grants that copies of this (resolution be for- warded to the Prime Minister, the Chancel- lor of the Exchequer, the Leader of the House of Commons, and the County Govern- ing Bodies for Wales and Monmouthshire. PENSIONS FOR INTERMEDIATE TEACHERS. Mr T. Mansel Franklen moved, and Mr Lewis Williams (Cardiff) seconded:- í"TIJat the executive (committee be in- structed to endeavour to arrange with the Education Department that any scheme of pensions for Eliementary Teachers that the Department may lay before Parliament shall be extended to include Intermediate School teachers. Alderman T. Jones (Newport) and Miss Collin (Cardiff) opposed the motion, the lat- ter pointing out that the matter had not been eo'n.-id'ared 'by the Secondary School teachers. —Mr Tom. John supported the proposal, which, after a long discussion, was adopted. NATIONAL SYSTEM OF SCHOLAR- SHIPS. Air Ca,dwaP.adr Davies submitted the re- port of the committee appointed to consider the question of a national system of scholar- ships, which shewed that the committee had made exhaustive inquiries, but owing to the incompleteness of the returns received were not able to submjit any deifijnite scheme. They suggested that a conference oæ con- ferences be held to consider (1) the age of entrance (2) the duration or tenure of the scholarships (3) the means of equalising1 the conditions of scholarships and exhibitlona as between town and country schools; (4) that the tenure of scholarship awarded should be coincident with the Intermediate School year; (5) the preparation of a syllabus for entrance scholarship examinations; (6) whether examiners and examinations for Ele- mentary Schools be arranged and appointed by county governing bodies or local govern- ing bodies; and (7) the uniformity of the proportion of entrance scholarships to in- ternal scholarships.—It was resolved that the name of Mr A. C. Humphreys-Owen be added to the scholarships committee, and after considerable discussion the report was referred back for further consideration to the scholarships committee. INSTRUCTION OF PUPIL TEACHERS. It was resolved, on the motion of Mr T. E. Ellis. M.P. :— "Tint the executive committee be re- quested to consider the merits' of the plan originated by the Festiniog School Board of given its pupil teachers a period of instruc- tion at an Intermediate School, and to em- body the result of their consideration in a memorandum for the information of man- agers of Primary Schools." It was also agreed, on the motion of Air Cadwaladr Davies :— "That the attention of local governing j « bodies be drawn to the Tate plans for County Scho ells, and that a memorandum be pre- pared and circulated showing the advantages thereby placed with the reach of local govern- ing bodies."
PRIZE DAY AT THE LLANRWST…
PRIZE DAY AT THE LLAN- RWST COUNTY SCHOOL. On Tuesday evening, the Concert Hall. Llanrwst, was uncomfortably • filled with a select audience, on the occasion of the dis- tribution of prizes to the successful boys and g:rls attending the Llanrwst County School. Mr O. Isgoed Jones, J.P., presided. The stage had been neatly decorated, wlilJe the appearance of the girls' choir, in dresses of irany colcars. which blended well together, was most fascinating. The Chairman, on rising to open the pro- ceedings, was cordially cheered. He said that as chairman of the local! governing body, he thank ?J them most cordially for their pre- f sence that evening, and he felt sure that with what they saw and what they would stifU hear, that the resul,t would be most gratifying (cheers). The schools, he was glad to inform them, had exceeded their most sanguine expectations (cheers). The attend- ance of the boys had risen from 60 to 68—• (loud a,ppl. ause )-and that of the girls from 30 to 58 (loud applause). He felt sure that everyone present wou.d readily admit that that was a most gratifying rosul t (hear, hear). The venerable chairman of the county govern- ing body—Mr Gee-had written to him re- gretting that owing to advanced age, he wa-s unable to be present, but his heart was with them, and he thanked them for the invitation (cheers). He had another letter regretting his inabifity to be present from Captaim Griffith-Boscawen (hear, hear). Consequent- ly, they saw that they had the sympathy of the whole county fcr the success of their school (loud applause). As most of them were aware, a Central Board had been established for Wales, and in future all their interme- diate schools would be examined by examin- ers appointed by the Central Board. He trusted that they would bear the expense as weC (hear, hear). At any rate, all the ex- aminations would be under the control of that board in future. Having referred to the ohservatiünä delivered by Principal Raichel at Llandudno, last week, against cramming the mind, the Chairman said that he quite agreed with the principal, for he was against cramming (hear, hear). What he wanted was thorough and lasting know- ledge (cheers). And all parents that sent their children to the Llanrwst. County Schad could be certain that there was no mere cramming there (hear. hear). The minds of the pupils were gradually developed 011 the best Jinxes. The (speaker referred to the I building fund, and the generosity of Mr Tate in contributing £ 1C0 towards meeting the county grant. He made an earnest ap- peal for help, because a sum of £ 70 was still needed. Having impressed on the par- ents the importance of sending their children to the vocal and musical classes punctually, the Chairman alluded to the county scheme. He observed that when he supported tlie pro- posal of a grant of £ 600 per annum to Llan- rwst, lie did so under the impression that Carnarvonshire wou.d contribute handsomely to the &chooL If he had known at the time that they would not, he would never have accepted £ 600. The school was an open one for the whole area. It was true that they received the halfpenny rate from Carnarvon- shire for the area in question. But it was not equivalent to their expenditure upon that area. He was glad to see the Rev Mr Gower there, and he hoped that he woulld use his influence with Carnarvonshire (hear, hear). He (Mr Jones) had spoken to Mr Williams, the chairman of the Carnarvonshire County Governing Body, and he was in sympathy with them. Xow, he appealed to Carnar- vonshire, in all earnestness, to promote a. supplemental scheme as soon as .possible, and so thereby give their school the financial sup- port it deserved (loud appliause). The following programme was then gono through Piano duet, "TaranteCe," Misses I Kurtz and Alclntyre; part soOng. "Carno- vale," The Choir; pian,) solo, "Murmuring P\lHs, MISK Jesisie (Roth/well; recitation, "The Bishop and the Caterpillar," Miss Alary Roberts. At this juncture, the Headmaster read an interesting report as to the progress of the school.. It pointed out that honours had been won by the following —Girls Sarah Dutton, senior Cambridge Local, with dis- tinction in religious knowledge Fanny Ellis, senior Oxford, with distinction in French I —she also took the guinea prize for the high- est in Fr.ench at the Colwyn Bay Centre; Alice Thewlis, senior Oxford Local Amy Beetham, Oxford junior. Boys William Dutton, Cambridge senior; G. D. Cameron, C, C -1 Cambridge junior—nrst-class, with distinction in arithmetic and Latin F. W. Jones, J. L. G. Parry, and S. Jones, Cambridge juniors. Certificates were obtained for. boys from the South Kensington Science and Art School for mathematics :—'Fiist-cjassi fin the first stage, W. Dutton and D. P. Roberts first- class in the second stage, G. D. Cameron second-class in fourth stage. H. L. Jones. He also took a. second-cfass' in the advanced stage of electricity, a second-class in the ad- vanced stage of mechanicism, and a, first-class in the elementary stage in physios. J. O. Jones took a first-class in the elementary stage in geometrical drawing. Ten pupils had obtained Pitman's shorthand theory cer- tificates, while 26 had taken the elementary certificate. In all, there were 44 pupils who took instruction in shorthand. I Miss Higson and Miss SamueEson then pre- sented prizes to the following—Girls—Eng- ish subjects: Form 4, 1, Fanny Ellis; 2, Amy Beetham. Third form 1, Jane Jones 2, Mary Williams. Second form: 1, Jessie E. Rpthwell; 2, Gaynor P. Roberts. Form 1: 1, Leta Rogers Jones. Conduct prize, Ffrainees Edwards. Needlework, Edith WVnme. Murfe, iLillv Wynne. Drawing, Kate Jones. French,Mary Blodwen Ro- berts. Attendance and punctuality. Jennet Davies. Boys—Form six: George D. Cam- eron. Form five: 1, John Eastwood 2, D. Pratchard Roberts. Form four: 1, J. EEiB Elias; 2, R. O. Roberts. Form three: 1, J. D. Jarvis: 2, H. H-cber Williams. Form two: 1, Cadwaladr (Roberts; 2, Caradoc Mills. TSlte children twere heaxtilyl cheered on going forward to receive their prizes. That pleasant duty over, the programme was pro- ceeded with a9 follows:—Part song, "Au- tumn Memories," The Choir; piano duet, Misses Louie and Beattie Conway Davies; part, song, "The Home of Son?, The Choir ¡ piano solo, "Italian Dance," Miss Amv Beet- ham piano trio, "The Damask Rose," Miss- es Myfi, Ettie Wi.Eiams, and May .Jones; part song, "Life and Love," The Choir. A most pleasant and entertaining evening was spent, the singing of the children, as well as the instrumental renderings, reflect- ing the greatest credit upon the musical in- structor of the school, Mr D. Parry, who also acted as an accompanist at the concert. The usual votes of thanks concluded the proceedings.
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THE COLWYN BAY DISTRICT OOLNCIL.
THE COLWYN BAY DISTRICT OOLNCIL. THE LIGHT RAILWAY QUESTION. TEE HOSPITAL SITE. The monthly meeting cf the Colwyn Bay District Council was held on Tuesday, under the presidency of the Rev Thomas Parrv. J.P. THE SANITARY COMMITTEE. The following is a summary of the report of the respective- meetings held by the sani- tary commjittee during the month —The surveyor produced a report, relative to the prevailing sickness in the district, which he hind received from the medicaii officer of health, together with two certificates for closing the Colwyn Bay and Infant Board Schools, as advised in his report. The com- mltteej after carefully considering the whole i matter, and going into the number of cases which, at present existed in the district, re- solved, en ~propa1il of Mr John Porter, se- conded by Air John Blud. "That the medical officer of" health be informed that the com- inittee, have carefully considered the present position of affairs, cannot recommend the council to consent to the closing of the Col- wyn Bay and Infant Beard Schools, but that they will see wltet progress the sickness in the di-stlri,d will take, and if it i.s found to be increasing within the next week or so, the council will then take such steps to close these schools as will be found necessary, they will af.so .hen be able to have these schools closed for a longer period than at present.. owing to the Christmas holidays coming en them/' This V,"N put, and carried. It was further proposed by Mr G. Bevan, seconded by Mr J. Blud. and resolved, "That the sur- veyor vigilantly watches the progress of the sickness in the district, and if he finds it in- creasing, to again summon tins committee to- gether, to consider the necessary steps to be taken.—At a subsequent meeting, the sur- veyor submitted the following report re- j specting various matters:—I have to report that in furtherance of your proceedings at the special meeting, held on the 24th cf November last, the prevailing illness, which was then in the district, has been gradually abating, and therefore there has been no necessity to again call you together to recon- sider the closing of the schools, although the school board have thought, it imperative to do so. which proceeding, I regret to state. I has caused a feeling of panic in the place, but which I can assure you is quite ground- less. Ats requested, 'I have inspected the land offered by Mrs Mel or, as a site for hos- pital, and as" you will perceive from the plan submitted, the whoie is situated within your district, and I consider the same most suitable as a site, only I am afraid that its ckse proximity to Colwyn Cemetery, to which it adjoins, will be such a sentimenta,. objection to it. that would prevent the eener- el use of the hospital. Seeing the difficulty the council are in with regard to land for cemetery, I think this difficulty can be solved by taking over Colwyn Cemetery, and add- ing this -and to it. and making use of same as a cemetery for the whole district. It wa.s proposed bv 31r John Blud, seconded by Mr John Roberts, and earned Unanimous-v, that the clerk and chairman be instructed to inter- ( view the Charity Commissioners to know if the council can acquire the Hard at T ynterfyn for the purposes of a hospital. With regard to the Cowlyd water, the surveyor stated j Although we hn.ve been well supplied from Cowlyd for some time now, still I regret that for the hst week or a fortnight, there ha,ve been great complaints, made from the ) higher levels of the district that they do not receive any suppHy at night. I have sent sE-vemlletters, to Mr Farringtcn, and had re- plies' from Mm but there is just one fact that I note in the figures which he drives, viz., that while a pressure of nearly 1301bs. was maintained from the 10th October for about a month, for some reason or other it has been gradually reduced from that date to 1681'bs., and I should point out that it is just this 121ns. extra that makes all the d:- » ifferenee here. It was r>reposed by Mr John [Roberts, seconded by Mr Hugh Davies, snd carried unaniinotisly. that the Co<wf.yd Board be requested to urce forward the laying of the new mains to this district.. It wa-s also I resolved that the chairman and clerk inter- view the Local Government Board as to the representation of this council on the Cowlyd Board. In reference to the main sewer, Mr Jones reported I regret that the opening out and examinatioai of the sewer between Penihyn-road and Hawarden-road has con- firmed my suspicions in regard to the same, and it is really a surprise that the sewer has worked all these years as well as it has. I must admit that it is a soandafc that any en- gineer has allowed work so defective and scamped as this was to be ever covered up. I am sorry to say that I could not possibly allow this part to be rel-aid without I gave the council an opportunity of inspecting the state of this sewer for its whole length. I have made a careful survey and section, bv which you will see its .present state, and I must point out definitely to the committee that it must be repaid, as it cannot remain in its existing condition, as most directive •and unsound pipes were put in, and the line of sewer runs in zig-zag form one side to an- other; also, soir^jof the spigots of the pipes were 2ins. away from the sockets of the next pipe, and the pipes now bared are practically perfectly level, with a drop or subsidence of 7 inches in the centre, and some of them are laid one way and some another. The man- holes, which have been built on this length of sewer are the worst specimen of workman- ship that I ever saw in my experience, and are very defective, and have been made so small that a man cannot clean the same out when he is down. I suggest that the man- hdes on this length be rebuilt larger: also, that a new manhole be (built at the junction of Mcstyn-road, and that two new lampholes, and one other extra manhole be built between Penrhyn-rcad and Station-road, and it will be necessary to lay a 6ins. bed of concrete under some of the pipes. The total cost of this I estimate at £6.30. Now, as to what is necessary to be done to remedy the same, you will find, on referring to the drawing which. I Lave prepared that if this sewer is laid from Marine-road up to Ivy-street, a fair working gradient of 1 in 259 can be secured, but as I find that from. Wynnstay-road to Marine-road seems so far to 'be in working order, I would recommend the council to re- lay the same from Wynnstay-road to Ivy- street, where, by the relaying of this length, a satisfactory gradient of 1 in 242 nan be secured. It was proposed by Mr John Ro- berts, seconded by Mr Hugh Hue hos, and carried unanimously, that this work be pro- ceeded with at once from Wynnstay-road to Ivy-street. 'Mr Biggs, the promenade, con- tractor, attended, and gave his estimate far carrying out this work at £623 4s 10d. It was proposed by Mr John 'Roberts, seconded iby MT Hugh Hughes, and carried unanimous- ly, that Mr Biggs's estimate be accepted, and that he be asked to proceed with the work at once. The surveyor further reported I would call the committee's attention to the want of a, proper sewer an« water main at the back of Penybryn-road, 'Colwyn, where a number of very defective privies exist, and I think notices should be served on the abutting owners, calling u1"O:n them to lay a new sewer and construct proper water closets. LResolred. that he bring up plans and estimates of the mane for the next meeting of this committee. Air Bevan moved, and Air Porter second- ed, the adoption of the report. Mr Robert Isjfvans complained that the minutes were incorrect. The Chairman held that the minutes were correct. Air R. Evans said, that it would be no use for them to come there from Old Colwvn iÍ the clerk was to do what he liked. The Chairman said that it was a serion- iraputation cai the clerk. Mr R. Evans said that he did not blame die clerk. There might be someone else behind him. Mr Amph.ett, the deputy-clerk, re-nlied L^-at he did not know whether the member who ha.d just spoken was capable et being :>ought. but he could assure him that the clerks were net (hear, hear, and lan.rhter). Air iivans stated that the resoiuti. 11 with i7 e 'III 9--l")-IVT:-l -■"Vv ard had been passed unanimously. He had protested agolnst the chairman. the clerk, and the surveyor, representing that. ciuncii at the iajuiry to object. The Chairman ruled Mr Evans cut of or- der, and he could tell them that lio was en- deavouring to do his duty without fear of anyone. The minutes were then adorned. THE HIG-WAT OOAIMITTEE. rep:4r:oa :—It was proposed by !1fr George Bovan. seconle-d by Mr Thomas Parry, and carried with one dissentient PIt" William Danes), that the surveyor be instructed to see Mr talker, and agree UJpcm the price to be paid for the railings and trees on the p-ot of ground ne.ar the Congo Institute. The surveyor reported as follows respecting pave- ments :—I have made an inspection of the pavements which have been tar-paved, and beg to report to you as follows: I find that the same has greatty worn. down at the following places T From the Board School to Pwllyeroelian-iavenue wants repairing from Pwllycroclian avenue to W7oodland road, wants refloating, also -in front of Presbyterian church Sea View-terrace requires refloating very much; Aibergele-rcad, from tap of Statren-coad to Olarke's Shop, also English 'Congregational! church to Baptist church, and several other places in the district. But. to come to what I would recommend to the council is that the whole should be refloated. I estimate (according to the offer made by Val-da-Travers Company, in November 3rd, 1835), :It. £ 100. It was proposed by Mr John B:ud, seconded by Mr Hugh Hughes, and carried unanimously, that this committee inspect these r-oads in company with the sur- veyor. and also the footpaths where the pave- ments require refloating. With regard to gas examination, Mr Jones reported:—During the past four weeks, much dissatisfaction has existed as to the quality of the gas delivered in the district. I selected two evenings, on which it appeared to me to be of the worst quality, riz., on the 22nd of November and on the 4th c-f December, on which evenings I went down to the gasworks, and tested the illuminating power cf the-same, and also the quality. On the 22nd of November, the gas was found to be 16.72 candle power, the pres- sure being 27 tenths, and on this night the transfer from the old works to the new was taking place. On the 4th December, when I made the examination, the illuminating p • r was 17.62 can-die power, the pressure was 24 tenths, and on both examinations, I failed to detect any sulphuretted hydrogen in r o' the same. I should inform you that both re- sults were above the requirements which the company stipulate to provide according to their Act of Parliament, which only allows 15 candle power at a pressure of 8 tenths still, they have been in the habit of serving the district much better thaji they do at the pre- sent time, and it is cnlv fair that I should point out that the present time is a very pre- carious one for the company, as the transfer to the new works involve a great uncertainty, both as to their action and as to the quality of what those works should turn out; and, further, that in this transfer they must meet with a certain amc-unt of obstruction in the form of air, which must be all got rid of before any works can give satisfaction. I ascertain that they are doing their best to im- prove matters I, therefore, think that they are entitled at the present time to a little forbearance. To properly watch their opera- tions. I should suggest that a gas pressure grauge be fixed in my office at a. cost of about 10s. and also, as it is customary for the gas examiner to provide his own candles and other chemicals necessary for the examina- tion. I beg to ask for the committee's consent to Drooure the same. These will crst about lis," and will last about six ,months; and I hope, as other duties will allow, to be able to examine the same oftener for the future. It was resolved that the surveyor be author- ised to get the necessary materials to proper- ly carry out these examinations. The solici- tors to the ootmciJ presented the draft bill whirl), they had received from their Parlia- mentary agent, and stating that the latter had suggested that the chairman should interview him. in company with the solicitors, on the bill. It was proposed by Mr Porter, second- ed bv Mr Hugh Hughes, that the chairman be deputed to go to London in company with the solicitors, and that, in the meantime, the chairman be given full instructions- with re- gard to the bill. Mr Porter moved that the minutes be adopted. Mr Blud seconded. Th,- were unanimously passed. THE FINANCE COAIMITTEE reported a-s follows:—The clerk read a letter from Messrs Sampson and Price, solicitors, Ma-ncli ester, who appeared for Miss Street and Mr Win. Edwards, to objecting to pay the water-rate, and asking that they be it _q placed on the same footing as last year with respect to the same. It was resoiived that the clerk be instructed to write to them, stating that the council cannot comply with their request. The clerk reported that as the necessary witness in the case of the council against the executors cf Robert Roberts, de- ceased. could not be found, the solicitors to the council were obliged to withdraw the same. It was proposed by Mr Win. Davies. seconded by Air George Bevan, and carried unanimously, that the clerk be instructed*to bring before the next meeting of this com- mittee a statement of all costs already in- curred in this matter. A letter was read from Mr A. Rcthweli, applying for a re- duction in tiie charge maae against hnn for the pcrx u his v, aiiu chiia ha-d been at the hospital, ameun..ng to £ 13 18. It was resolved, that the sum of £ 10 be accepted in settlement, if paid at once. A leizc-z was also read from Air A. A> nsoii, Wa.siiaw Lc-dge. applying for a reduction in the charge cf £ 6 63 made for the time of his child's .in- fection in the hospital (six weeks). It was resoiived that the council accept tiie sum of 10s per week Íl; settlement. A letter was also read from Mrs A. Bowitlev. applying for a reduction in the-charge of £ 9 9s charged far the nine weeks isolation of her sen at the hospital. It was resolved that half the amount claimed be accepted in settlement. It was proposed by Mr John Blud, seconded by Mr Thomas Parry, and carried unani- inous.y, that in cases where the medical men prescribe spirits and Liquors, the patients be ordered to procure the same themselves. On the motion of Air John Roberts, the minutes were passed and adopted. THE RAILWAY ACCOMMODATION sub-committee reported that they had met Mr Neele, of the London and North-Western Railway Company, and that the chairman explained to him the necessity of providing a net-- station for Colwyn Bay and Colwvn, of providing a better entfrance to the subway, to the liarrownes's of the bridge approach to the Colwyn Bay Station, and to the^necessiry of having a better approach to Beach-roaa, Colwyn, and to the want of proper conven- iences ell both of the platforms at Colwyn Station. Mr Neele stated that he would do his best to assist the council. BRlEACH OF BYE-LAWS AT GROVE-iROAJJ. The .surveyor reported a report of a breach in the building bye-laws by Mr Owen Lloyd, Pendorlaii, who has erected a narty well be- tween his two new houses in Grove-road, of a less thickness than 9-inch, a.s prescribed by the building bye-laws. It was resolved thai the clerk be instructed to write to Air Owen Lioyd, stating that unless he complies with the bye-laws before the next meeting of this committee, proceedings wilt be taken against him. THE PROM'BNADE COMMITTEE. A special committee of the' council met on the promenade on the 14th inst.. and re- ported as follows -r-The committee made an inspection of the works, and it was resolved that no more scopes be formed on the pTII- menade, and that in Aeu thereof, slipways, according to p.ans submitted by the surveyor, be constructed. It was proposed bv Mr G. Bevan, and seconded bv Ale O. Williams, and resolTed, that the be made 21 feet wide, and not 15 feet :lS shown on the approved bv the council. It was proposed by Mr J. Blud, seconded by Mr Hugh Hughes, and resolved, that in addition to the slipways to be formed opposite each, end of Marine-drive wall three be formed between the east end of this wall and Eirias stream. The contractor applied that he be allowed to use some of the shingle off the beach for filling, and after fully considering the matter, and hearing from the contractor his reason-s for making this application, it was re-solved that his application be granted, sub- ject to his not removing the same from a greater depth than 3 feet below the existing level of the wall (i.e., 3 feet below the un- derside of coping level), and in a perfectly line off the face of the wall along the surface of the shore, the contractor to pay the coun- cil the sum of £ 50, and to maintain the sea wall for a further period of tinee months, making in atl 15 months' maintenance for this part of the works. The minutes were adopted. LIGHT RAILWAYS. Mr Blud moved, "Tllat this council having considered the proposed Light Railway and lEf.ectric ,Tramway Scheme, considers that such scheme in its present form would be prejudicial to the interests of this district, and, therefore, resolves to oppose the same." He was not opposed to the principle of the bill, 'because light railways were sure to come about. His objection was rather to the pre- sent form of the bill, and what, he wanted was to safeguard the interests of the rate- payers and obtain alt the advantages possible from tiie same. fMr J. Porter seconded. Air Eevan moved, as an amendment, that they assent to the Light Railway Scheme, subject to terms to be hereinafter agreed upon, and that the chairman and Air John Porter be appointed to meet other authori- ties interested in the matter. Air Hugh Eughes seconded the amend- ment. Air W. Dav ies supported the motion, as the proposed rout", out up some of their paths. The Clerk replied thai he had already sent in an objection to treat for land unless the terms and conditions were forthwith inserted hi the bill. The Rev Thomas* Parry considered the action of the clerk quite sufficient. There- fore. he trusted that they would not give- any objection that would be the means of throwing the bill overboard. Mr Bilud said that when the promoters saw that they were determined to object to the bill in its present form, they would br- in a better condition to get terms. Mr John 'Rolberts Suggested that they should adopt- Mr Bevan's amendment. Mr Bevan said that. Mr Webb had said that if they objected, the bill would bo dropped. Eventually, the motion wss passed, the clerk toO explain to the ■promoters that the resolution was passed for the council's pro- tection, but that once the bill5 was put in a form that was acceptable to them, their ob- jection would drop. On the motion of Mr Bevan. the chairman and Mr John Porter were appointed to* con- fer with a similar deputation from other au- thorities interested in the matter.
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