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MR. LLOYD GEORGE'S VISIT TO NEWCASTLE. FIGHTING SPEECHES IN SUPPORT OF THE BUDGET. "LORDS MAY DECREE A REVOLUTION THE PEOPLE WILL DIRECT IT." Mr. Lloyd George met with an enthusiastic •reception at Newcastle-on-Tyne on Saturday, when he addressed three meetings. The principal gathering was at the Pala.ee Theatre, where an audience of 3.,000 assembled, then the Chancellor addressed an o verfiow meeting, and in the evening he spoke at a j dinner at the Newcastle Liberal Club. Very elaborate precautions were made to prevent. a disturbance by .suffragettes, but at the Palace Theatre there were lively incidents owing to interruptions by male suffragists. There were more extra police in the city than on the occasion of the last Royal visit. Many streets were closed to the public, who! collected in thousands behind the barriers On the doors of the theatre being thrown open every part of the house cjuickly became occupied. Each ticket was mark-id, "This will not admit a lady," and nelle of the female sex were to be seen, witli the exception of a few on the platform, Sir William Angus, president of the National Liberal Federation, presided The/e was a scene of great enthusiasm when the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who was accompanied by Mrs. Lloyd George, came on the platform. MR. LLOYD GEORGE'S SPEECH. The Chancellor commenced by remarking -that a Minister in charge of a great Bill ha-a no time to pre-pa,re speeches. (Laughter.) He had just come there for a plain, straight talk about the Budget, the opposition to it, and the prospects of both. (Cheers.) Six years ago he at Newcastle dwelt upon the great burden imposed upon industry by t the ground landlords and the royalty owners. and mildly suggested it was about time they should contribute something out of their wealth towards the necessities of the State. Six years afterwards he came to tell them that, it would be done. (Loud cheers.) The j Bill wa-s through all its troublesome stages, and it had emerged oat of its 40 days and 40 nights—slaughter)—in the wilderness much strengthened and improved. They had made alterations and modifications. No great principle could be applied VlrithDut necessary hardships. The Government had done their best to meet every hard ease presented to them. (Cheers.) They had done their best, and done it amidst the taunts of the very people who pressed them uipon them. "Nvllen- ever we listened to them—daughter)—as I have had to do for five months—I have done live months' hard labour." Mr. Lloyd George was here interrupted by a man who clamoured for "Votes for women," but he was quickly ejected. TAX ON MINING ROYALTIES. Well, the Chancellor continued, we made alterations, but the Bill in its main struc- ture remains. (Hear, hear.) All the taxes are there. (Cheers.) Because when you order Dreadnoughts a respectable country like this must pay for them. There has been one alteration in the form of one tax. (A Voice: "There is no tax on the stomach i pumps," and laughter.) We made a.n altera- tion in regard to mineral rights. They com- plained that we taxed mineral rights, and said that, although they did not object to pay the taxes, which were uncertain, they objected to the form. At this point a gentleman noa.r the reporters' table made another suffragette interruption. There are many ways of earning a living," commented Mr. Lloyd George, when the interrupter had been thrown out. I suppose that is one, and one of the most objectionable Continuing nis speech, he said he was quite willing: to meet the objections of the landowners, so he converted the present tax, which would produce zC175,000, to a tax on mining rúya.1ti<s, which would produce £ 530,000. (Laughter.) They were not a bit better satisfied. (Laughter.) Well, now we a.re through the Committee stage —we are through the last stage where the substance of t.he Bill can be modified. The Committee stage is the stage for the axe and the chisel and the plane. The report is the etage for the sandpaper, just to alter the drafting. But the substance remains, so that you see the Bill practically in the form in which it is going to become an Act of Parliament. (Great cheers.) At this point a youth of little more tha,11 twenty made an interjection a.bout the women, and upon being seized by the stewards he fought madly, shouting, "Votes for women." After a brief, but fierce, struggle he was removed. The Chancellor then proceeded to examine the main objections to his Budget proposals The chief objection, he said, was that it was flji attack on industry and on property. I am going: to demonstrate to you that it is neitner, he said. ("Hear hear," and cheers.) It wa.s remark-able that under it trade had Improved, although not qpite recovered. A GREAT FLUMP IN DUKES. The only stock that has gone down badly— there has been a great slump in dukes, (Laughter and cheers.) They used to stand rather high in the market, espeeiallv in the Tory market, but the Tory press had dis- covered that they are of no value. (Laugh- ter.) „ They ha.ve been making speeches recently. One specially expensive duke made a speech, and all the Tory -prio,% said-well, bow really, that is the sort of thing we are spending £250.000 a year upon—because a fully-equipped duke costs as much to keep up as two Dreadnoughts—(laughter)—and they are just as great a terror, and they 3a^t longer. (More laughter.) As long as they were contented to be mere idols- A Voice: "As long as women were con- tented to he mere idols," and uproar, in the course of which the interrupter was ejected. As long as the dukes (continued Mr. Lloyd George) were contented to be mere idols on their pedestals, pres-erving that stately fnlcnce whioh became their rank and their jntelligen ce—(] a.u g h ter)—all went well, and the average British citizen rather looked up to them and said to himself, "Well, if the worst comes to the worst for this old country we have a.hvays got the dukes to fall hack on. (Laughter.) But then came the Budget. Thev stepped off their perch, they haw been pcolding like omnibus drivers, purely because the Budget cart has knocked a little of the prilt off their old stage coaoh. (laughter.) Well, we cannot put them back again. Why. asked the Chancellor, was Liberalism supposed to attack property. He ladd it down as a ProPojmon that morf of the people who worked hard for a living belonged to the liberal party-(hear, heari-and most of the people who never worked belonged to the Tory party. (Hear, hear). "HIRELING GENTLHMEN" There were further interruptions, cries of Votes for Women," and men were ejected Turning on them the Chanoellor said, If there are any more of these hireling gentle- men will they make their demonstrations all at the same time. Further disturbance led to the chairman rising and appealing for order. restored, Mr. Lloyd Sfnen1" re,mark that it was the House 'Lfi £ ,Cn L'beral side of the SrtT' tK' lfc was not the Liberal T>u- upSi Lr^ llkelyJ t0 enea^ in wanton >n up n Property and industry There were Se firsfweS0traIly °bjectedJ° the Budget those who eofSfct to establish 1'^ r. ^dt when once this Budget was ^iTsecon!^ 'Wa'S an end of thrir "desires. aDd more powerful, class were nnerv? Th/°and latldlord;- Wh" were they was being elev€T! to twelve millions Tfvt i?llsed ont of 'and taxes. Probably twenty"milli^>Ul(i ,K> fiometl"un^ approaching Ihi- yearnrof' and yet the land ^xes for hir- £ 650 G00 'I-awht'r. for the t nt Walt"") The tart reason taxes that wo^f„owas that they were £ 650.000. fLaughtenTW°S y 2T £ nv»w The in They were bound to reversion dutv°!^lem duty wil1 grrow- will grow. grow, the mineral duties And "TillED OF WALBOTTLES." country growSs^H^6 riches in this neople vear w' thiere are more rich IWM distributed S' RS flooo-mmodation, but .IL. a ■ eloow room, more RR," W€H,AS F? worknng^ases are demanding better homes the dni^ear Th,ey not satisfied with the dull grey street .of the past. (A V<Cf:H.Hlafb0tt]e'" and laughter J They wniLttliT 7t paUces- but they are tired of Wax bottles, ^ug'hter and cheers.) They are not satisfied[ with promises merely that the housing problem will be settled for them on the other side of the valley. (Laughter.) They are asking for more air, more light, more room, more verdure, more sujishtne to recruit energies exhausted in toil, and they will get it. (Cheers.) And I believe this Budget will help them to get it. As thete new fruitful ideas develop more land will be required, and the mare land you require the more tsfcxes will come of the Budget, and, therefore, these are taxes that will grow. That ie one reason Why they object to them, < -ind that is not the chief objection; the chief ftjeetion of great landlord# to thJ* ^ujget lies in the fact that, it has great valuation proposals. (Hear, hear.) RAILWAYS AIND LAND. Discussing the relationship between land and industry, Mr. Lloyd George dwelt on the large prices railways bad to pay for land, and said there had never been a commercial enterprise but what the landlord had generally secured anything from four to forty times as much for the value of the land as its agricultural price. Every trick and ohicanery of the law wa.s exhausted in order to prove that this land—worthless land—had enormous hidden value. (Laughter.) Here you are driving a railway right through this valley. You are separating Jiat hill from this hill. What compensation do you pay for them? Damages, gentlemen, heavy damages for severance. (Laughter.) Then they say: Do you know there are minerals here? There was not a railway train that had not at least one truck carrying the interest on the excessive price paid to land- lords. That was a heavy burden upon industry. Jlear. hear.) Take municipalities. If they wanted land for use they bad to pa.y four times as much as its agricultural value to these great landlords. (Hear, hear.) Mark how much they had to pay for land which was essential to the very life of a civilised community. Then what have we in trade, in business, in commence, ilti industry? If you want to found a new business or to extend an old one the charges for land are extravagant, especi- ally if you want to extend, because you are there then, because a trader cannot carry his trade away as if it were a coster's barrow. I have my bag packed with papers in which landlords have demanded the heaviest price they could possibly extort when addition* were wanted to existing property. The State valuation for the first time places a perfectly impartial valuation on all the land in the kingdom. It forms a stan- dard to guide the buyer." It separated the value cf land intrinsically from the value which was attributable to the expenditure of its owner. It also for the first time forced the landlord to look at the value of the land not merely from the point of view of a receiver, but of a payer. (Hear, hear.) There was nothing like compelling a man to look at both sides of the question (Cheers.) That was why there was objection to the Budget. (Hear, hear.) In future people could always quote the State valua- tion to any extortionate payment put upon land by any landlord. (Cheers.) WELSH ILLUSTRATIONS. I should like "(continued Mr. Lloyd George) to give you a few illustrations by way of showing to you how the new Budget taxes will work. I will take you fitrst of all a trip to my own country, which is quite interest- ing, I can assure you. Some of you may know the South Wales coalfield. It is not so very long ago it was a wild, unproductive country, most of it common land. Landlord Parliaments soon handed over the property to the great landlords, when they discovered there was mineral value in it. At the present moment the South Wales coalfield pays a mil- lion and a half per annum in royalties to just a few landlords-(" Shame ")-and hun- dreds of thousands in ground rents. Now, let me give you just one or two figures which will show what is done there. You get first of all land, not very rich agricultural land-rather poor agricultural land—and c'oal is discovered there. The landlord leases the property to somebody who has the necessary enterprise and capita] for the purpose of development. The landlord himself does not sink any capital in these properties. It is only in very rare exceptions that yon find that. There are just a few. Somebody else works it. somebody else faces risk and the loes, and the landlord takes sixpence a ton in the way of royalties. ("Shame.") Then you come to the surface. You must employ workmen for the purpose of carrying on your mining operations, and the workmen must have hcuses, so tlfcy start building, and the landlord then says, Yes, certainly, by all means you may build, but you have got to pay a ground rent." And there is land now leased in these valleys in South Wales for which, though even within living memory-it may be only a few years ago in some cases—-it produced only a shilling an acre, the landlord is getting £30 and X40 per acre per annum simply for the permission to build a few cottages upon it. They are able to build on lease, and in about sixty years the whole of this land will fall into the landlord's hands.. EJIONDDA VALLEY COALFIELD. Take the Rhondda Valley—it is one of the best coalfields in South Wales. In the year 1851 the total population of the valley was only a thousand. To-day the population is 132,000. The landlords receive annually £ 200,000 in royalties, they receive £ 30,000 a year in ground rents. The coHiery pro- prietors pay in rates £ 54,000 a year, the land- lords do not pay a penny. ("Shame.") That is how the matter stands. There they charge for the minerals, they charge for the surface whenever land is wanted for waterworks they charge heavy prices for it, rail- ways have to pay, and between all these charges industry is burdened and the landlords do not callt-ribute a penny toward, the heavy and growing rates of the district (Hear, hear.) Sir Christopher Purness the other day gave a case where one colliery alone paid, I think, £ 300,000 in ten years. 1 should like to know how much the landlord contributed towards the rates of the di'Ttrict Probably not a penny—certainly not a penny of the £ 300,000. But the colliery company ai the same time contributed heavily to the rates of the district. I know that is the case so far as South Wales is concerned. There was a case given to me from South Wales the other day of a company which had sunk a good deal of money in mining operations and they sent me their balance-sheet. I find their profits are £ 3,COO per annum. The profit- of last year—I won't say per annum. And what do you think they* paid to the land- lords in royalties? £10.600. This company paid £ 3,500 in rates, they made a profit of £ 3,000. and the landlords got £ 10.600, more than the profits and tlle rates together, and iret they do not contribute a pen'ny to the raftes of the district. ("Shame.") YOU ARE A WELSHMAN." And when I come along and say, Here, gentlemen, you have escaped long enough— (cheers)—it is your turn now. I want you tc pay just 5 per cent. on the £ 10,000 odd." "Five per cent. they say to me. "You are a thief." (Laughter.) "YQu are worse. You are an attorney"—(loud laughter)-" worst o! all, you are a Welshman." (Benewed laughter and cheers.) That always ie the crowning epithet. Well, gentlemen, I don't apologia -(hear, hear)-alld I don't mind telling yoi. that if I could I would not. (Cheers.) I "n proud of the little land among the hills (cheers)—but there is one thing I should likr to say, whenever they hnrl my nationality at my head. "Yon Unionists—(lond laughter and cheers)—hypocrites, Pharisees, you a r. the people who in every peroration—well not in every case; they have only got one- daughter)—always talk about our being onf kith and kin throughout the Empire, froir the Old MR-n of Hoy in the North down t< Van Die,mem-, Land in the South." And yet if any man dares to aspire to any position if he does not belong to the particular -nationality which they have dignified by choosing their parents from-(laughter and cheers)-well, they have no use for him Well, they have got to stand the Welshman this time. (Cheers.) I have just given you some facts from the Welsh valleys, but then you will probably say to me these are Welsh landlords- daughter)—our landlords are not like that. (" 011," and laughter, and Voices: "Worse.") I thought from your pa.tience that they must have been angels, but I see that you have got just the same sort. Well, you know you may say to us, "Why do you stand them?" Because you force us to stand them. We would have got rid of them long ago. When the Celt has a nail in his hoot he takes it out, but you have been marching on until there is a sore. Have it out. (Cheers.) I have been inquiring what is happening in England recently. (Hear, hear.) Landlords have no nationality; their characteristics are cosmopolitan. (Laughter.) The Chancellor then gave an illustration from Yorkshire as an example of the effect of the taxes in his Budget. WHERE MY BUDGET COMES IN." Well, now (he asked), where does my Budget come in? (Laughter.) It comes in rather late, I admit. It ought to have come in in one of tho earlier chapters; still, it comes in soo-n enough to give the story a happy ending. (Laughter and cheers.) When the forty thousand royalty comes 5 per cent, for the first time will come to the States ("Hear, hear," and a Voice: "Too little.") The land outside, the land which is nominally agricultural land, but which is really now valuable building land, will pay a halfpenny in the L. When it is sold we will get 20 per cent. en the increase. (Hear, hear.) And when the landlord passes away to another sphere we shall then get the dead rent. (Laughter.) Twenty per cent. on the increase. More than that, we have made another little provision. We have considered his case thoroughly. (Laughter.) When these cot- tagee fall in and his heir comes and walks in for the whole of thi. beautiful model village -thie model landlord r" a model village—the State will then, under this Budget. say, "Very well, if you really must take all that property I think we bad better get a toll of 10 per cent, off it." At any rate, we shall be able to do something for the people who live in these cottages. We have got a little provi- sion. He has only leased one seam of coal. They have discovered, I think, four seams. Some day the other three seams will prob- ably be leased, and then the 5 per cent, only applies to existing collieries, but we have got a special provision for future col- lieries. (Laughter.) CHANCELLOR'S GAME EPISODE. We shall then ask from him, not 5 per cent, of the royalty, but 20 per cent. (Loudcheers.) Where is the injustice there? (Cries of None.") I agree with you. (Laughter.) I have been listening to criticisms for five months, and they could not point out a single injustice in it. They simply scolded at large. Let me ca.11 a-t tent ion to one provision in this lease, because it really casts a strange, almost a weird, light upon the landlords' ideal of rural life in this country. There is a clause in the lease of the model village that no person shall reside in any of these oot tages if they have ever been convicted of an oftence against the game laws. (Cries of Shame.") No person shall lodge there if he has been convicted of a game offence; no per- son shall reside there if th? landlord or his agent has any objection to them. ("Shame.") And this is a free country. Here is a poor miner who is guilty of—what? Of doing some- thing which the landlord spends his life in doing—(A Voice: Gan on, George," and cheers)—and which I have done myself many a time without a licence—(laughter)—only in Wales. (Renewed laughter.) What happens? Not merely is he to he fined, he is to be deprived, as far a.s this gentleman is con;, cerned, of the opportunity for all time of earning a decent living for himself and his family. All I can pay is that a provision of the sort in any lea-se is an outrage. (Cheers.) LORD LANSDOWNE'S MUTINOUS CREW. Asking what will the Lords do, Mr. Lloyd George said:—I tell you frankly it is a matter which concerns them far more than it concerns us. The more irresponsible and featherheaded amongst them (laughter) — want to throw it out, but what will the rest do? It will depend on the weather. Laughter.) There are some who are not fair-weather sailors, and they will go on, but poor Lord Lansdowne—(laughter)—with his creaky old ship and his mutinous crew- there he is; he has got to sail through the narrows with one eye on the weather-glass —daughter)—and the other on the forecastle. (More laughter.) But it does not depend on him. It will depend in the first place, prob- ibly, on the reports from the country. The most important gentleman in this business is not Lord Lansdowne, with all his adroit nanagement of the House of Lords, not even Mr. Balfour, with his invaluable services to his party. The real sailing master is Sir Arthur Acland Hood, the Chief Whip of the Tory party, and that ancient mariner- (laughter)-is engaged at the present moment in trying to decide whether it is safe to shoot the albatross. (More laughter.) He would probably not discover it until too late. But "till this is the great Constitutional party, and if there is one thing better established than another about the British Constitution it is this, that the Commons, and the Com- mons alone, hawe the complete control of supply and ways and means. (Hear, hear.) And what our fathers established through centuries of struggles and of strife, even of bloodshed, we are not going to be traitors to. (Loud c.heers.) "BLACK RETINUE OF EXACTION." Who talks about altering and meddling with the Constitution? The Constitutional party the great Constitutional party. (Laughter.) As long as the Constitution gave rank and possession and power it was not to be interfered with. As long as it secured even their sports from intrusion, and made interference with them a crime; as long as the Constitution forced royalties and ground rents and fees, premiums and fines-the black retinue of exaction; as long as it showered writs and summonses and injunctions and distresses and warrants to emforce them, then the Constitution was inviolate, it was sacred, it was something that was put in the arne category as religion, that no man ought to touch, and something that the chivalry of the nation ought to range in defence of. But the moment the Constitution looks round, the moment the Constitution begins to discover that there are millions of people outside the park gates who need atten- tion-(hear, hear)—then the Constitution is to be torn to pieces. FORCING REVOLUTION. lJØt them realise what they are doing. (Cheers.) They are forcing revolution. ("Hear, hear," and-a Voice: "And they will get it.") But the Lords may decree a revolution which the people will direct. (Cheers.) If they begin issues will be raised that they little dream of. Questions will be asked which are now whispered in humble voices, and answers will be demanded then with autho- rity. The question will be asked -why five hundred men, ordinary men-(Laughter)- chosen accidentally from among the unem. ployed—(laughter)—should override the judg. ment, the deliberate judgment, of millions of people who are engaged in the industry which makes the wealth of the country. (Hear, hear.) That is one question. Another will be, -Who ordained that a few should have the land of Britain as a perquisite; who made ten thousand people owners of the soil and the rest of us trespassers in the land of our birth? (Cheers.) Who is it—who is tesp&nsible—for the scheme of things where- 6y one man is engaged through life in grind- ing labour to win a bare and precarious sub- sistence for himself, and when at the end of his days he claims at the hands «f the com- munity he served a poor pensioa of eight- pence a day he can only get it through a revolution; and another man who does not toil receives every hour of the day, every hour of the night while he slumbers, more than his poor neighbour receives in a whole year of toil? ("Shame.") Where did that table of the law come from? Whose finger inscribed it? These are the questions that wul be asked. The answers are charged with peril for the order of things the Peers repre- sent, but they are fraught with -rare and refreshing fruit for the parched lips of the multitude, who have been treading the dusty roa-d along which the people have marched through the dark ages, whiçh are now emerg- ing into the light. The right hon. gentleman, who had risen at ten minutes to three, resumed his seat at 4.25, the finish of his speech being greeted by loud and prolonged cheering,,

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