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The Welsh Scandal, II ACTION AGAINST A PONTY- PRIOD MINISTER. The Defendant Goes Into the Witness- Box at the Resumed Hearing of the Case at Shrewsbury Yesterday. Mir. Abel Thomas, Q.C., M.P., resumed the hearing of evidence in the alleged Welsh ministerial slander at Shrewsbury on Wednes- day. The action was brought by the Rev. G. J. W illiams, of the Congregational Church ai; firyjiteg, near \V rexhan1, to reCOVBr from the Rev. W. I. Morris, also a Congregational minister, at Pontypridd, the sum of j3500, damages for a slander said to be contained in a letter written about the plaintiff in March last. Mr. J. P. Cart-wright, of Chester, was for the plaintiff, and Mr. S. T. Evans, M.P. (instructed by Mr. W. R. Davies, Pontypridd), for the defendant. On the Arbitrator taking his seat on Wed- nesday he stated that he had received a very improper letter from the Rev. Vyrnwy Morgan, and was surprised that a gentleman in his posi- tion should write in such a way. He would take no further notice of the letter, but destroy it at once. DEPENDANT IN THE BOX. The defendant was then further examined by Mr. S. T. Evans, and said: i attended a meeting of the East Glamorgan Congregational Association, and attended a meeting on the 12th of April. I proposed a resolution, which was seconded by the Rev. J. Davies, and car- ned. The resolution was to urge the vacant Congregational Churches of the denomination throughout Wales to be on their guard in view of applications being made by a person who recelltlv left the denomination to wIuch he "belonged and became a member of a Gongrega- tionai Church for pulpit engagements as a can- didate for the ministry. 1 had nothing to do with putting a paragraph about the meeting in the newspapers. It was in the newspapers on the 14-th. Another minister suggested to me that it would be to the interest of the Church at Brynteg if a copy of the newspaper report were sent to Brynteg, to Mr. Ellis Roberts. I sent the cutting, with- out any comment. I thought it very desirable that the Church at Brynteg should know what was done at the meeting. I had no malice whatever towards Mr. Williams in what I did in the matter. I received a letter from Ivlr. Roberts, and, in reply, sent him the telegram already referred to, saying chat i. sent the cut- ting. I wrote to him on April 27 and May 26 the letters which were read yesterday. 1 had no malicious motive in writing the letters. I believed all that I stated in them to be true. I sent a. certificate from the Rev. J. R. J ones to show that Mr. Williams had re-joined the Baptist Church. I had heard before that lie had returned to it, and i went to the Rev. J. R. Jones, the pastor of the Church, for his certifi- cate. To Mr. Cartwright: I have been connected with the Congregacionalista all my life. 1 have been at Pontypridd 26 years. 1 iiave had some trouble at the Church—some divisions. I be- Calllb acquainted with NIL VV Il113,llld in 18SS. I wrote a letter to him in that year—a friendly letter. We had no correspondence after that until he joined the Congregationalists. After that other letters passed. i was not aware at that time that he was seeking supplies. Be ssked for a book in which to find the names of vacant Churches. Mr. Williams was bank- rupts and I knew of it. 1 never remonstrated with Mr. Williams or had any communication with him as to Brynteg. The àiS30ciatlOll to which the plaintiff was refused admission was not the one with which I am connected. I am not a member of the English Associa.ticn and never attend their meetings, except 11l a friendly way. 1 was at one the other day. 1 have Mended the services conuucted by the Rev. Vyrnwy Morgan years ago. 1 resided near Mr. Williams, but not in the same street. We have met in the street several times. After the two letters (March 6 and 8) were written, tlie. subsequent letters were written in con- sequence of Mr. Ellis Roberts's letter. My belief was that plaintiff was not a proper per- son for a pastor of a. Church. There was a meeting of the Welsh Association m January. That W;18 the last meeting before the one ou April E. When Mr. Jones wrote his certificate 1 was in one room and he was in another. 1 did not dictate the certificate to him; nothing of the sort. Mr. Cartwright: Now I will call your attention to this. Mr. Jcnes says in* his eeninoate ( desire to say to all con- cerned and who desire to know that the Rev. G. J. Williams, who joined the Inde- pendent. deruomiua1ti.or1 in this town, returned ■ 11 Sunday night with great repenta-nee, and upon special request the Church agreed to receive him dn Sunday night." And then he adds the words that "no words have been said about the story that he could preach 11P to nüw" Did you suggest these words? —Defendant I did not. 1 have heard what the Rev. Vyrnwy Morgan said about the admission of ministers into the Church. My experience relates to the Welsh only. To Mr. Evans: There is no difference between the two except what is superficial. I did 1wlp to start a new Congregational Church at Pontypridd, and I did it at my own personal loss, for many members left me. My Church is the Mother Church of Ponty- ■priad. There is another Chmch-Ziou. it has been formed about 24 years. I have officiated in the other church, and a friemEy feeling exists between the two Churches. The rejection of Mr. Williams's application for membership of the English Association took place twelve months before ibs rejection bv th", vF 813h Association. I teak 110 part whatever in the rejection .;f Mr. Williams; by the. English Association. EVIDENCE BY DEPENDANT S SOLICI- TOR. Mr. William R. Davies, solicitor, Ponty- pndd, said: I am acting for the defendant iu this matter. 1 am secretary and. deacon at the English Congregational Church at Pontypridd, and one of those who were for- merly members OIl IvlT. Morris's Chure:h, and who helped to start the new Church. In January. 1893, plaintiff wanted to become a member of the Congregational Church. The matter was discussed by the deacons. The Rev. V VlllWY Morgan mentioned the matter, and it war; disclosed in consequence. Two letters in support of it were also read. I was at the first Church meeting when it came forward. His name was submitted to the meeting, but there was no settlement at that time. The matter was adjourned. He was :on probation. That as the rule. No transfer letter was produced by him. Mrs. Williams became a member, and the same course was adopted in regard to her as to her husband. -Mr. Mor.gMi and Mr. W. M. Jones proposed Mr. Williams as a full member of the ChlFCh. .Not a syllable was said about his béin9' accepted as a preacher. On the following Sunday Com- munion Service took place, and, according to Usual custom, the new members would be announced. Mr. Williams was there. Mr. Morgan said nothing- more then than on any other similar occasion. He said he hoped Mr. Williamij's settlement amongst us would be a happy one. He made no reference whatever to }fr. Williams having bæn a Baptist. From the first to the last of Mr. Williams's connec- tion. with the Church there never was a sug- gestion of his being a preacher. In fact, he never was anything but an ordinary member of •our Church. I have had some experience of Congregational Churches. A Church meeting would be called to consider the matter if he wished to be a preacher, and they would decide tfie matter. Mr. D. Edwards and Mr. -Tames Thomas are local preachers. They had been connected with the Church at Pontvpridd. They have frequentlv taken part in the ser- vices of the Church, and while Mr. V. Morgan was there. Mr. Moreran WB th8re about fif- teen months. H# resigned. Mr. Williams never took the slightest part in the conduct of any of the services of the Church. I do not think his voice wa.s heard in the Church from the time he came to the time he leit us. I do not think he ever attended a week-niWht meet- •.ncr. The Church never authorised any of ■he notepaper of the Churoh to be used by the plaintiff for writing his letters. I never tuthorLserl him to use my name as it an¡lP;1,c,3 n "hs document, or in any way whatever. heard that it was being used Jftfore June. 5893—before Mr. V. Morgan left, and I complained to him about it. Some time after Mr. Morgan left the plaintiff called lqJOn me ft was on a Saturday morning. He said he had been misled by Mr. Morgan, and wished me to advise him :1.< to what he was to do. He did not wish to go to the Church as pastor if he was not one. I told him he had no more right to be preaching than I had. I mentioned thB letters he had sent around with IFY name. and he said he onlv did what he had been advised by Mr. Morgan. He a.sked what he should do In reference to an engagement in the North. I said he had bitter fuifil it, as it was too late then for 'he Church to obtain mother supply, but that he should make known his real position to the Churches. He then asked what steps he should take to be recognised a,s a preacher. I told him he knew perfectly well that the first step was to consult the Church of which he was a member. In the same interview he told me Mr. Morgan had disappointed him in not going to the meeting of the association. He said he knew that he had been refused, and I sald, Could you have expected anything else, seeing that your proposal was not supported by your awn Church., I told him I should be glad to see him another day, when I was less busy, md he left me. :Hr. S. T. Evan*: Did Mr. Williams know lhat he was not recognised as a, preacher?— .Witness: CertainK- he must. And t?wt he had been, rejected b-' associa- .fiin —Certainly he did. i. Now, the whole time he was at Pontypridd did you ever hear of his doing anything in the Church as a preacher ?—No. Anything in ths town as such?—Nothing but i what a layman may do. Some time in 1294 applic,Hiüü1 wa", made by him to the mcnthly meeting of the Church for a transfer, aud it was not granted because he was not then a member. He had then re-joined the Baptists. To .31r. C'i twright: I had a conversation with Mr. Williams about his being a member of the Church, but not 3<3 to his being a preacher. Except what I have stated, I did not tell him that his position would be the same as that of James Thomas, and Danid Evans. J. knew that he was obtaining supplies, or filling! vacancies. I did not bring it before the Church. I was !)re8ent when he was made a member by Mr. Vyrnwy Morgan. Mr. Cartwright: And heard what he said about being- a preacher. Mr. Evans: He never said anything about being a preaoher.. The Arbitraitcr What he said was that he hoped Mr. Williams would be as successful among the Congregationalists as he had been among the Baptists. Mr. Cartwright: How many members are there of the Church a-t Pontypridd? Witness: About 130. I heard of Mr. Wil- liams's application to be admitted a member of the English Association after it. was made. I did not know that he had. been a member of the Baptist Association. I knew he had been a Baptist preacher. To Mr. Eyaus: He did not resign from the association by a notice to the secretary, Mr. Davies. I have made inquiries on the point. Mr. Evans: Have you received a telegram from Mr. Davies about it?—Yes. The telegram was ruled to be inadmissible. Witness: I knew that Mr. Williams was getting supplies, and that he was doing so ir- regularly. I told him he had better cease. AN ORDINARY" MEMBER AN 1) NOT A PJ.VXJ~V.CHER. Thos. S. Jones, commercial traveller, Ponty- pridd, said From the time of the founding of the new Congregational Church at Pontypridd I have been a member. I was formerly a mem- ber of Mr. Morris's Church, and left to start. the new one. I was not at the Church meet- ing when Mr. Williams was received as a mem- ber. Nothing was said at the Communion Ser- vice about Mr. Williams being a preacher. He II was never recognised by our Church as a preacher that I know. No application wa.s made by him or on his beha.lf that he should be recognised fuy a preacher. He came to me m August, 1893. He said he wanted an inter- view as to his position and his being a preacher, and I told him that the question of his being a preacher had never been before the Church in any form—that he was simply received as an ordinary member by the vote of the Church. This was on a Saturday, and he came to see me on the Tuesday after. He then said that Mr. Morgan had misled him as to his position, and that he desired it to be put- right by the deacons. I told him that Mr. Morgan had never mentioned him as a preacher. He said Mr. Morgan had helped him to get supplies and the deacons could put him right by bringing it t-efore the Church. He said he had been refused by the association. Then I asked him how he obtained the supplies and who recommended him, and he said Mr. V. Morgan had written him a oirculacr lett.er. I asked him if he had a copy of the letter which Mr. Morgan had written, and he said no. I then aisked him if he had written any of the :1]1plica,tions on the notepaper of the Church, and he said he only used what had been given him. He said he sent one letter to Oswestry. I to.ld him that letters were sent wjth the Church heading and Mr. Mor- gan's riame attached, but not in Mr. Mor- gan's writing'. Mr. Williams said he had nDt sent any. He said a young man had written some letters for him. I a^ked him who the young man was, but he declined to give me the name. I told him I could not bring his (Mr. Williams's) name before the Church unless he gave me a better ex- planation. I advised him not to make any fuither use of the notepaper of the Church and to put him.-elf right with the Church before he obtained any further supplies. I did not lead him to believe that I would brine; the matter before the Church on his behalf; certainly not. To the Arbitrator: I gave him my own advice and without, having consulted anybody at all. I was all through on friendly terms with Mr. Williams. To Mr. Evans: Mr. Williams has never been recognised by our Church a.s a preacher. I So far as I am aware, a.fter the advice I gave him he did not try to get supplies. If he had done so I should have known of it. in 1894 M". Williams met me on May 11 near the Post-office at Pontypridd. On May 8 application was made by him or on his behalf for a transfer, and on May 11 he said he wanted to see one of the officers about the transfer. I said the application came before the Church meeting- t.he pre- vious Tuesday, but I was not pre- sent and he would hear the result from the secretary. I said, "Between you and me, Mr. Williams, I do not see what grounds you have to ask for a transfer, seeing that you have left the denomination and gone back to the Baptists," 3B I had heard, en January 20. He said. "Who told you so?" I said, "You were not received in a corner, but before all the Church." He I said, "T11:t ha»i nothing to do with it you can't refuse me a transfer." I said, "I :1111 surprised at you saying this. You must know that as soon as you are received by the Baptists you are as dead to our denomination. You are only one person, and you can only be a, member of one place." He said. "I was at your church the last Communion Service. I said. "You were there the hot Communion Sunday in the evening, but the Communion Service was in the morning." He said. "I was present at the Communion Service before that, and you were not there." I said- "You must only speak. Mr. Williams,, of what you knmv." and that was all. The last time I wa.s absent- from the Communion Service was in August. 1893. I was present at the service from which he said I was absent. He then said, "I can see that you are determined to ruin me. I sat-i, "There is onlv one man that can ruin you, Mr. Williams, and that is yourself." To the Arbitrator: If he had come to the Communion Service he would have been entitled to partake. To Mr. Cartwright: It was the second Sun- day in March that I was at the service and the plaintiff was not. I did not write down what he said at the time. It is quite clear to me to-day what was said. I never took any action after what he said to bring the matter before the Church. I told him distinctly I would not. I mentioned it to the other deacons. W p did not think it a suitable thing to bring before the Church. Mr. Evans Nor did Mr. Williams himself. Mr. Cartwricht: Mr. Williams did what he thought- was the best thing—he mentioned it to the witness. Did you (witness) see more than one of the circulars ?—No. I believe there were more. I have never been bankrupt. In 1876 I made an arrangement with my creditors. They accepted what I proposed. To Mr. Evans: I do not know much about Mr. Williams's handwriting, but I thouvrhrt- the writing of the letter I saw was Mr. W'lkams's. Tt was not Mr. Morgan's. THE CIRCULARS FOR SUPPLIES. The Rev. John Williams said I am an Inde- pendent minister at Havod,near P.ontypridd.and have been there two years, and I am secretary of the Welsh Association. The meetings are held quarterly. I was present at the meeting on the 12th of April last, and produ-e the minute-book, which contains the resolni m pro- posed by Mr. Morris, and which was unani- mously passed. The resolution was supported bv several members of the association. Not one spoke against it. After that the resolu- tion came into my custody. Mr. Morris had nothing to do with putting it in the newspapers. A reporter called at my house the day after the meeting, a,'1d I gave him all the report which he wrote down. I had the booit and all the papers before me v; hen he called. I gave him the minutes. I heard the plaintiff give evidence. I heard him say that since he joined the Congrega- tional Church at Pontypndd he had had no ct n- versation with ma in reference to his position as a preacher I was astonished to hear him say so and to give the other evidence he did an the subject. In fact, Mr. Williams did coil upon me in August, 1893, or the end of Jtly. He called at my house by appointment at his own request. I had met him on the day before, and then made the appointment. When he came to my house he wanted to have a talk with regard to The irregularity that he was sending circulars about fur supplies to the Welsh Churches, and not being recognised, so far a4 I knew, as a preacher by ordination. He told me that Mr. V, Morgan had misled him, and that it was owing to that he had sent thtm. I told him not to do anything more in that direction until he had put himself right. He asked what he must do, and I told him that there was hardly any difference between us and the Baptists in that respect. The onlv important difference was as to bap- tism. He replied that he had always thought so, only Mr. Morgan had misled him. I alluded to his rejection by the English Asso- ciation, and said that the proper way would be for him to go to the Church of which he was a member and get a resolution passed by them. and get a ¡;upply, if possible, on eh", following S'1ndav. 1 also gave hIm ether and said I was S11re hp could bsive every heln from Mr. Morris and the other rnMiistefrs. He did not denv at all that he had been rejected by the association. I have been threatened with pro- ceedings, but have heard nothing more of them. The proceedings will be continued at the Angel Hotel, Cardiff, a,t nine a.m. to-day; (Thursday). j nmnpi 1 __n_
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Conservatism at Cardiff. 4 A BIG GATHERING AT THE ROYAL HOTEL Sir Ashmead Bartlstt Delivers a Stirring Address on imperial Questions. On Wednesday evening a very successful smoking concert organised by the Conserva- tive Clubs at Cardiff was held in the large banqueting-hall of the Royal Hotel. Tht prii.eipa-1 speaker was Sir E. Ashmead Bart- lett, M.P. (late Civil Lord of the Admiralty), who had made arrangements to address a public meeting in the town. Unfortunately, on the two dates given by him the Park-hall was en-gaged, and the Conservative party thought it advisable, under the circumstances, to hold a smoking concert, at which the speeches might be interspersed with songs and recitations. Mr. Lascelies Carr occu- pied the cbair, and there were about 400 present, including, in addition to Sir Ash- mead Bart Lett, Messrs. J. E. Gunn, W. T. SvmoncLs, Charles A. J. Ward, C. Moir, H. Gibbon, and James Allan, Dr. Horder, Messrs. James Price, H. T. Box, J. Ferrier, Joe Frazer, Harry Samuel, Bridge. C. Har- ley Down, R. W. Hedley, W. C. Peace, John Moore, John Rees (Riverside)., H. B. Marquand, D. Lloyd Lougher, George Pad- field, J. H. Thatcher, R. Hughes, 1. Samuel, George David, M. Angwl, H. WhltB, E. YV al- dington, A. Winter Barnes, Dr. Treharne, Dr. Corngan, and Dr. Hughes. The Chairman, who was heartily applauded on rising, said the chief function of the evening- was enjoyment, although later on they would have some political instruction from Sir Ash- mead. Bartlett. He (the chairman) was pleased to have that opportunity of testifying his admira- tion of the public spirit Sir Ashmead Bardett had exhibited in visiting Cardiff and other places in South Wales as a kind of modern Peter the Hermit, to stir up a new crusade against the powers of darkness—the Saracenic powers of the Radical party. (Applause.) He would fulfil his obligations by simply con- ducting the meeting, and not by any words which he could say even throw into greater prominence the eloquence they would shortiy have the opportunity of listening to. (Ap- plause. ) After a couple of songs had been sung, The Chairman said it was a matter of deep regret to him that his friend and partner, Mr. Mac-lean—(applause)—was not peesent that- evening, especially after the recent municipal events, which, perhaps, Sir Ashmead Bartlett did- not understand. but which would manifest themselves at the next general election. Mr. Maclean had asked him to express his great sorrow at being unable to attend to support his old friend, Sir Ashniead'Rartlett. People in the provinces were apt to think that important personages in London could make arrangements to attend meetings at short notice. It was no omen'ty to him to drive five or six milp to attend a gathering of the description held that night-, but lit was advisable that gentlemen living in London should have more timely notice. He now called upon Sir Ashmead- Bartlett to address the meeting. SIR ASHMEAD BARTLETPS SPEECH. Sir Ashmead Bartlett received a most enthusiastic reception on rising. Opening a magnificent address, Sir Ashmead said he had to thank Mr. Can-, the chairman, for the encouraging words with which lie had been introduced to the meeting, as well as to thank the gathering itself for its warm and most agreeable reception. (Cheers.) Like Mr. Carr, he regretted very much Mr. Maclean's absence, and he could thoroughly sympathise with the cause of his valued frieud's absence, as it was no light work to tra.vel from London, even in these days of railway travelling, and to proceed at once to address a large meeting- like that. (Applause.) THE MUNICIPAL VICTORIES. Now, Mr. Can- had referred to the remark- able vi0lories at the recent municipal elec- tions at Cardiff. (Cheers.) Mr. Carr had spoken of some difficulty that he (Sir A-h. mead) might experience in apprehending the significance of the result. (Laughter.) Well, llÐ supposed 1\lr. Carr was thinking of th0\3B Radical 0ritios who always endeavoured to give political significance to every turn which events of that kind gave. But if his under- standing was dull upon such subjects he could assure Mr. Carr a.nd that audience of the fact that he was in Sheffield 011 Enday last, addressing a great gathering of his coo- stituejits, when lie was welcomed by the reassuring and encouraging intelligence that the Conservatives had won three remarkable victories at the municipal elections at Sheffield. (Loud applause.) In one ward aloin—a ward held for years, almost for gene- rations, by the Radical party—that repre- sented by Mr. Mundella—the Conservatives won by two thousand majority. (Applause.) The result was astounding, a result that the Conservatives could hardly believe when they heard it with their tars or read it with t-neir eyes on the following morning. (Cheers.) He congratulated the electors of Cardiff, therefore, upon the decisive victories just obtained in the great commercial Metropolis of Wales. (Applause.) Those victories might appear, perhaps, due to circumstances local and passing, which an outsider might be ignorant of, but when they found that throughout the length and breadth of England and Wales the. Con- servative party had gained no less than 69 seats, whereas the Radicals only gained 26 seats, the coi elusion to be arrived at was a just and un- mistakable one. (Continued applause.) Those victories represented a great COnSeTyative re- action, and ho hoped it would bear good fruit at the next election :n the important town of Cardiff, just as he wa.s confident it would bear good fruit throughout England. (Cheers.) THE POLITICAL OUTLOOK. Sir Aslimead-Bartlett proceeded to state that he had been invited to address a great meet- ing at Cardiff at the close of August, and nothing would have given him greater pleasure could he have accepted that invitation, but other engagements prevented him. But he told Mr. Waddington, the excellent representative of the cause at Cardiff, that he would come to Cardiff at the earliest possible moment. (Cheers.) The next day, Sir Ashmead added, he would have an opportunity of opening a Conservative club and addressing a mass meeting at Merthyr, and it gave him great pleasure to coma to Cardiff to address a meeting that night. (Cheers.) He fixed as the subject of his address the Imperial and foreign relations of Great Britain. (Hear, hear.) He did so for two reasons. First, because they had of late assumed an activity, an impor- tance, he might almost say a phase of anxiety, to which this country had, fortunately, been a stranger for the last eight years. In the second place, he chose that subject because he thought- and in this he was, no doubt, open to severe criticism from their opponents—he thought they had been somewhat passed over during the last session of Parliament. If they cast their eves back for the last fourteen years they would find that when Lord Beaconsfield—(applause)—• went out of office in 1880 he had successfully tided over, by courage; foresight, and the highest attributes of statesmanship, some of the most difficult crises with which this country had been menaced for many years. (Hear, hear.) He had brought them through those crises with honour and with peace. (Applause.) The main difficulties with which he had to contend were difficulties not so much abroad as difficulties at home. He was ham- pered at every step by the attacks and opposition of the leaders of the party who were his rivals in the his enemies, and our enemies in South Africa, India. Egypt, the Soudan, and in the East of Europe were in every case encouraged to the uttermost by the Radical party and its leaders. (Hear, hear.) They. in every case, took the side 01 those who were our rivals, if not our foes. They in every ea-se encouraged the parties, the nations, and the Governments who were infringinsr upon the rights, the commerce, and the influence of Great Britain abroad. He reminded them of this, because it was possible that their opponents might say that in the address he was now making he was attacking the Government of the day. He did not sup- port the enemies of tbiis country aoroad- (Ap- plause." If the Government of the day—if Lord Rosebery and his colleagues would show themselves determined to upheld the interests and honour of England abroad, they would find no more earnest supporter in and out of Parlia- ment than the humble individual who was now :J{Hre31>iing- them-(l0ud a,.np!ause)-upon, of course, foreign and Imperial .questions for he h1'l kh confessed th:1,t he detested the;1' home policy. But. still, much a.s he detested it, lie would give them his support on foreign and Imperial questions if he was satisfied that. they were g-e!111ineh- jntenclpd and really acted in a way to support the great interests of England i broad. (Hear, hear.) Lord Beaconsfield fell, and they had five years of Gladstone adminis- tration. CONTRASTING- BEACONSFIELD AND GLADSTONE. Those years were so sad in their results, so ¡ humiliating, so full of disturbance and bloocbhed and shame, that towards their close even the Radical party gave up the attempt to defend "heir leaders. They used to say, "We admit :he Conservatives know better how to deal with xreign and Imperial questions, but we are the iien for domestic policy." He need not remind :hem of the dark and dishonouring memories associated with Kilmaanham, Ma-juba-, Candahar. ind Khartoum, and with the betrayal of Gordon, rime, he said, woulo not permit him to refer DO what he again called those dark and humi- liatin-y days, which were still fresh in their recollection, of how the Liberal party scuttled from office in 1885 in order to escape the "Nemesis of almost inextricable troubles in J which they had involved their country abroad. (Applause.) LORD SALISBURY- Lord Salisbury came in—(applause)—at first with a minority in the House oi Commons, and that wa.s his first administration. which lasted six months, but in that short six months he succeeded in re-establishing the honour and position of England amongst the nations of the earth. (Applause.) Then there arose the I great question of the union, with which he did not purpose to deal that night. He came in with a large majority in 1886, and held ofiice for six years, and during that period (he chal- lenged contradiction) our Imperial and foreign affairs were never (Seriously disturbed. (Applause.) There was hardly a ripple upon •Aor[od s4Xinqsi{i!g piol JC aoupus lltooms 81n With regard to foreign policy, he never apolo- gised., or retreated, or sacrificed our commerce and power, or made a surrender-now to the Boers, now to the Mahdi. now to the French, now to the Russians. Lord Salisbury was recognised throughout the world as "the strong man armed" that kept the Imperial house of Britain in safety. Lord Salisbury was defeated in 1892, and he was succeeded by a Gladstonian Government once more, and it was with the doings of that Radical Government, first led by Mr. Gladstone, and now led by Lord Rosebery, he proposed to deal with- In the nrst place, whatever the cause might be. or whatever the view that might be taken by their opponents of each distinct tran- saction, there was no doubt whatever that there were clouds everywhere abroad-clond8 in Western Africa, in Central and in South Africa, clouds in the Far East in Eastern Asia. clouds in Madagascar, clouds with regard to the Nile waterway, which, perhaps, might even affect Egypt itself. MR. GLADSTONE AND TROUBLE ABROAD. Every day there came some fresh rumour of trouble. Things had not yet come to a head, but they were moving in the direction of danger, and the people were justified in asking them- selves whether the policy, or want of policy, on the part of the present Government was not responsible for much of the trouble that was impending. The moment he was satisfied that in any detail of policy the Government were endeavouring to do their duty to their country, to their Imperial interests, and to their treaties, and the faith they owed to their friends and allies abroad, then he would cease to criticise thi 111. Nay, he would support them (Cheers.) He would not remind them in the great town of Cardiff of the vital impor- tance of their Imperial interests and their Imperial commerce. He believed Cardiff was the third among the ports of the United Kingdom. (Hear, hear.) Its growth of late years had been phenomenal, and, what- ever others might think who lived in the interior and never saw ships, the inhabitants of Cardiff would understand what Imperial commerce and Imperial strength meant to this country. Therefore, he need not go into detail on this question. He would, however, remind them that the commerce of this country which crossed the ocean annually amounted to 970 millions of tons. The merchant shipping amounted to 12,480,000 tons. The population of Great Britain's colrmies and dependencies was 340 million souls, and the British Empire included an area of 11,300,000 square miles. The French commerce annually was valued at 277 million pounds and the Russian commerce 55 millions. The French tonnage in shipping wad 1,050,000 tons and the Russian 481,000 tons. The French Empire abroad only num- bered 30,500,000 people and the Russian only 17,580,000. The area, of the French colonies and dependencies was 3,060,000 and of the Russian, 6,500,000 square miles. In the ca,3e of Russia the area was nominal, because on the Caspian and the great portion of the Northern the land was practically barren. He admitted that he had a considerable pre- dilection ;n favour of Lord Derby's Imperial instincts, and hoped -Iiat the old Gladstonian I Sir E. ASHMEAD BARTLETT. I policy of retreat had been abandoned for ever. (Cheers.) But he bad changed his opinions of Lord Roseberv. (Hear, hear.) THE SIAMESE SURRENDER. lIT, the summer of 1893 there was serious trcuble threatening with regard to Siam, in Eastern Asia, bordering on our grreat Indian Empire, five-sixths of the irade of which was carried by British ships. They were aware that Siam was threatened by France. There were rumours of alarm and dangers, but the people of the country were kept in darkness as to the fact, for nearly twelve months. (" Shame.) In August of this year, hew- ever, the Siamese Blue Book was published by the Government, showing the negotiations and relations between Great Britain :],11([ France with regard to Siam during the previous year. He (Sir Ashmead) confessed lie never read a more humdiating story than was contained in 9tiat Blue Book. It showed a constant policy of retreat on the part of the British Govern- neeDt and encroachment- OIl the part of the French, and French encroachment grew in the same proportion as British retreat. (Applause.) He maintained, from the Government returns r the Blue Book, that the present Radical Ministry was weak when it should have been firm—that the British Government abandoned Siam when it shodd have been strong, and that throughout the negotiations the conduct of the Government was marked by extra- ordinary vacillation and want of courage in dealing with whast were clearly British inte- rests. (Applause.) Lord Rosebery had an opportunity of fixJmg- British territory a point beyond what it previously occupied, but, instead of this, French encroachment had gone on and British interests retreated, until in the end 600 square miles had been taken from Siam and a heavy fine imposed upon the country. ("Shame.") At the present moment Siam and a heavy fine imposed upon the country. ("Shame.") At the present moment Siam was reduced to a position of almost com- pi etc. vassalage to France. (" Shame. ") It. was hoped the Government would have received in return some concessions in satisfaction for the territory which Great Britain had thus been deprived of. But no; the encroachments of the French upon Siam had encouraged them to make encroachments in other directions, and other important British interests were threatened. FRANCE ON THE CONGO. Our trade had been largely cut off, and one or two very painful incidents had occurred. At Weimar, on the borders of Sierra Leone, in December, 1895, an attack was made by a French force upon the British force while it was on British territory. There was no practi- cal doubt arbout its being British territory, though the excuse was offered that it was some- what in question. Three gallant British otlicers lost their lives on that occasion. ("Shame, ) He was willing to admit that the attack might have been made by mistake. That did not justify the fact. ttiat no reparation, no apology even, had been offered by the French Government for that unfortunate, untoward, and grievous event. 'C' Six British police were shot down in cold blood —they were. natives, but in British uniform—in the same district. No apology, so far as they knew, had been offered for that. These were not things to go to war about he fully confessed, and he, for one, should not wish this country to go to war about. Did they think it possible that eleven long months would be passed by. since the affair at Weimar if Lord Beaconsfield or Lord Palmerstou had been Prime Minister without satisfactory reparation? ("No, and applause.) Tiio.se were incidents—accidents, if they liked-bue accidents for which one great Power always immediately made apology, it not reparation, to its neighbour. There was an incident iiappened on the Franco-German fron- tier not long ago. The Germans were fully pre- pared for war, and powerful to a degree. They felt they were in the wrong—their officers were in the wrong-and they immediately offered full reparation and apology to the Government of France. Now lie came to a more serious question, the advance of the French across Central Africa towards the upper regions of the Con go and the Nile waterway. If anyone had said three years ago that the French, who were then in Western Africa, would cross these vast, savage, and unknown districts of Central Africa and threaten the Nile waterway—the Upper Nile waterway—from the west, euch a person would have been laughed at. (Hear, hear.) They would have been told that they were talking of old wives's fables or old women's fears, as they used to be told by Mr. Glad- stone and Mr. Mundella, when they said the Russians were advancing towards Afghanistan and India, but within the last two years the I French forces had covered hundreds of miles, having practically subjugated the whole of Central Africa. They would not grudge the French their success, but of..late tb&y 1 approaching the Upper Nile. Now, he wanted to point out the importance of the Upper Nile. Sir Samuel Baker, who had a IllO.t re- markable knowledge—as a great explorer, geographer, and governor of those regions, of all tha.t part of that country—Sir Samuel Baker left it as his deliberate opinion that any European, Power that held control of the Upper Nile--lie meant the Nile that flowed through the Soudan—could hold Egypt at its mercy by the threat to divert the waters of the Nile. it iiot cult for a European Power, with the resources of European engineering, to divert the main channel of the Nile in such a way as to reduce Egypt to the condition of an arid desert. That was the importance of the Upper Nile water- way. They were in occupation, and respon- sible for the good government of Egypt, and they also intended that their influence should be predominant there and in the Suez Canal. Therefore, it was of vital importance to this country to prevent the French or- any other European Power from obtaining control of the Nile waterway. For fifteen or eighteen months the present Radical Government seemed obli- vious to the great advance the French Army were making towards the Upper Congo and the Western Basin of the Nile. At length, after Sir G. Portal's report, they woke up a little, and Lord Rosebery and Lord Kimberley decided (although with great reluctance) to annex Uganda. Let them. count that to them. for righteousness. The annexation of Uganda was an important and valuable step, and he gave credit to the Government for what they had done in that direction. Uganda, if pro- perly used., was the key of the whole position in that part. of the world. The French, however, still continue to, advance, and the present Government showed some slight appreciation of the danger. They resorted to artific to meet it. By a very characteristic Radical artifice they tried to get another Power to do what they ought to have done themselves. (Applause.) They thought it would be fine policy to push the little Congo Free State (which was the result of Belgian enterprise and courage) up between the advancing Frenc-li force and the Nile waterway. Though not a dignified or manly, that was a policy, and it. was always a satis- faction to know that a Radical Government had any foreign policy at all. (A laugh.) Well, what happened? Very little attention had been called to the event, which, he said, without the slightest hesitation was the most humilitating affront that had been offered to this country during the present century. Within two days of the Anglo-Congo treaty the French Foreign Minister declined to accept it. and it became null and void. He had never heard of such a. thing before, and he hoped he never would again. But words were words, and we should not care about a treaty being declared null and void so long as it was maintanned. But, the French within three months compelled the King af the Belgians to make a, treaty by which he agreed to withdraw from almost the country in which Lord Rosebery had placed him. There was nothing practically to intervene between the French forces in Central Africa and the main waterway of the White Nile. If the Government gave Colonel Colville sufficient power to take, possession of the Nile basin Great Britain's interests might yet be protected, but he did not know that they were going to do that. If not, they would be undertaking a great responsibility, both towards Egypt and British interests in Egypt, and South Africa generally. (Cheers.) There was a Nemesis in the affairs of Governments as in the affairs of individuals- The gravest of all Mr. Glad- stone's surrenders was the abandonment of the Soudan and the betrayal of General Gordon. (Cheers.) What human misery, what a loss of human life, could have been averted if, eleven years ago, Mr. Gladstone had only the courage and promptitude to deal with the Soudan in time— if he had or.ly begun in time, and not ended too soon. Now, when the same party was in power there was great danger of international trouble. The same thing had occurred m the Transvaal. One of the questions causing ^the greatest alarm to the Government was their want of courage thirteen years ago. MADAGASCAR AND SOUTH AFRICA. He would now pass from the Upper Congo and the Nile waterway, and refer to the ques- tion of Madagascar, one of the largest islands in the world, and an island of great natural wealth, and great and important "strategical 1)asition. Madagascar commanded the flank of our great Eastern commerce which pas-ed through the Suez Canal, and in the pathway of every British ship which passed round the Cape to the East. Years ago, when the great Napoleon planned an attack upon British terri- tory in the Fast, Madagascar was one of the first of the possessions which he contemplated. and now the French were encleayouring- to establish themselves in this important portion of British interests, although Lord Roseberv had stated, m connection with the "scare" Cabinet, that Madagascar had hardly been mentioned for two years. Well, he (Sir Ash- mead) felt the "ormer the question of Madagas- e'1r was considered by the, British Cabinet the better for the security of British interests. (Applause.) The right hon- gentleman pro- ceeded to refer to the position of Great Britain in South Africa. In the Transvaal they had a large number of British subjects, men of in- dustry who had raised the Transvaal from a position of bankruptcy to one of the best commercial countries in the world. (Cheers.) The British residents of the Transvaal paid five-sixths of the taxation of the country, the degree of prosperity in this respect being such that the Boers had in their possession a large surplus, which might have been British money had it not been for the attitude taken up by Mr. Gladstone. In 1877 the Boers in the Transvaal were in a desperate position, for they were threatened with invasion by Cetewavo and his legions. The Boers appealed to Great Britain, and, through the interference of the British, peace and security were restored to that country. Then, however, the Boers waxed fat, and they kicked against British law to such an extent that the position of the British subjects in the Transvaal became intolerable. Just after Mr. Gladstone came into office a deputation of British subjects came over and asked for those concessions of independence which had been promised to them. But Mr. Gladstone gave an evasive answer, as usual. They knew what followed that. Our gallant Colonists, who defended Pretoria alone, without the assistance of soldiers, against long odds, who held out for months in Pretoria and other towns-held out in the sure confidence that England would never betray their children, would come to their relief—they were abandoned to their fate. Our native allies—chieftains who, at great risk to themselves, had brought their forces to help us, and had incurred the animosity of the Boers —were also abandoned. Many of the Dutch citizens, who knew the advantages of British government, remained faithful, and they were abandoned and ruined. Our officers and citizens were murdered in cold blood, and we suffered such a degradation that the British name had never suffered before. ("Shame.") Then came the discovery of the Randt gold mines, and immense masses of Englishmen, Germans, and other nationalities poured into the Transvaal to develop its mining industries. They had made the prosperity of the Transvaal, paid its taxes, and yet they were denied every constitutional right. The Boers had passed a law forbidding any" outdoor public meeting what- ever and any indoor public meeting numbering more than five persons. Any Boer policeman had a right under this law to go in and order the meeting to disperse, and if they declined to shoot them down. (Laughter and" Shame.") The natives were practically denied human rights, and were treated with the utmost cruelty. THE POSITION OF SWAZILAND. Coming next to the SwazLs, who lived on tiie borders ot the Transvaai, and whom he ut- scribed as a manly and gallant race, he said these people had been the allies of England m their campaigns, and they were bound to uc; by every consideration oi Honour and gratitude. A deputation from the Swazis had just come to this country to lay their case before the Govern- ment. What was their claim? The position of Swaziland was highly important, strategi- cally, because the Boers were anxious to get to Delagoa Bay to cross hands with the French in Madagascar, where they might be a source of trouble to the interests of this country ai South Africa. To allow the Boers to do this would be, in his opinion, an exceedingly bad and. dangerous policy. (Applause.) The Swazi people had direct claims upon this country. When Cetewayo threatened Natal with inva- sion, and the English Government appealed to the Swazis for support, the Swazi King, although rehttpd by bluod to Cete- wayo, .sent 2,000 men to helpt Sir Evelyn Wood. The Swazis fought most gallantly, and after the war Sir Evelyn Wood, on behalf of the British Government, publicly thanked the Swazis for the assistance they had given, and promised that their independence should be maintained. The speaker then related, the many occasions on which tlie Swazis had assisted this coun- try. After the Boer vVar they could not understand our surrender, and Sir Evelyn Wood was sent to the Swazi King to ex plain it in order to prevent him a,nd his followers attacking the Boers themselves. Sir Evelyn Wood promised them for The third time their independence, and now, in spite of a solemn treaty, the British Government were doing their best to hand over the Swazis to the Boers. ("Shamt3") He had expected two of the Swazi chiefs at the meeting that night, but Lord Ripon had re- quested them to make no public statement until he had given them his final answer. (Laughter.) This country owed it to those people that they should not be handed' over to the domination and oppression of the Boers. They wished to. come under British protection. That- might be impossible—at any rate, it required a good deal of considera- tion but this country was bound to do all in its power to save them from their oppres- sors. They were quite capable of dealing with their own affairs, and unless they came under British protection all they required was to be left alone. They knew what the fate of their black brethren in the Transvaal had been, and had come over to this country to plead their case as best they could, and espe- cially to ask that they should not be handed over to the cruel tyranny of people they detested. (Applause,) There never was a clearer case than that of the Swa,zis; it was so clear that it could nor be argued on the other side. It had to be dealt with. and no side- shifting or evasion of the real issue would be allowed. The old oath of a, Mussulman was "By the beard of the Prophet," but during the Crimean War it was altered to "By the word of an Englishman." What would be said in South Africa, however, if these Swazie ambas- sadors went- back, and said, "The English Government has broken its word, and ns ready to betray us to our foes." This was a very grave matter, and struck at the root of the situation. PEACE-AT-ANY-PRICE PARTY. England would stand by her representatives,by her subjects, and by her traditions, and stand at the back of the English Ministry in protect- ing British interests in India, whose people had confidence- in the belief that behind them was the strength of the British Government- and the united resources of the British Empire. (Ap- plause.) He (Sir Ashmead Bartlett) might be told that this speech was a bellicose and war- like one, and calculated to an incitement to trouble abroad. There was, however, great dif- ference between his viewB-and those who held the same views as himself—and those of the Gladstoniaa and peace-ab-o,ny-price party. (Laughter and applause.) The Gladstonian party saId they were in favour of peace. Peace might be on their lips, but war was in- viariably the consequence of their policy. (Cheers.) It was foresight, courage, and true statesmanship which averted war. (Applause.) When the Emperor Nicholas 1. of Russia, the grandfather of the Czar who had just died, lay on his deathbed—dying from chagrin owing to the defeat of his armies—he sa.id if he had knewn that Great Britain intended fighting for Turkey he would never have gone to war at all. (Cheers.) It v as because Mr. Gladstone and his colleagues would not say plainly what their intentions were that the Emperor Nicholas was tempted to go to war, a struggle which had cost one hundred millions of money and many thousands of precious lives. This was the case on this occasion, and this would be the case always when the British ran away from their rivals and foes. (Applause.) The French people, it was said—it was was also said of the Irish—but of the French it was said that they were the first people in the world to run away. (Laughter.) They were encouraged to make fresh demands and fresh encroachments until, at last, the encroachments and demands became so unsupportable that there was nothing left but war. So that he contended that a peace-at-any-pnce-party policy was always the forerunner of war. (Applause.) Lord Beaconsfield saved Constantinople from the H lls8Ùms without shedding a single life, and he rescued from Russia the greater part of what she expected to get from that tremen- dous struggle. (Applause.) This was the lesson which he (the speaker) would most earnHtly impress upon his hearers. Lord Rose- bery at Sheffield the other night made a speech which contained the true accents of British statesmanship. Ho spoke of maintaining the honour of England, and denounced the vacilla- tion of the little Englanders. But Lord Rose- bery had yet to demonstrate bis positicn as a British statesman. (Cheers.) The late Lord Beaconsfield had been described as a Jingo, but he maintained that Lord Beacons- field was a real Imperialist, who had the honour and integrity of the country at heart. (Ap- plause.) Let Lord Rosebery beware, 11OW8yer. lest he go down to history as a sham Jingo. (Loud cheers.) Was it not, he added, a fact that Lord Beaconsfield had been falsely called a bastard Imperialist? He (Sir Ash- mead) for one, and the party to which he had the honour to belong—(cheers)—would support Lord Rosebery in his foreign policy if he would prove to the country that he was determined to uphold the, honour and the credit and the prove to the country that he was determined to uphold the honour and the credit and the flag of the nation at home and abroad. (Cheers.) But it must be a policy of deeds, and not, of wordc. and a policy of firmness and statesman- like determination. (Loud applause.) It must not lie a bastard Imperialism, which, while it indulged in high-flowing and magniloquent lan- guage at home, abandoned our countrymen, the rights and the lilierties of our countrymen abroad, to their oppressors, and hot raved our native friciids. and alliw to their bitterest enemies. (Loud and prolonged cheers.) VOTE OF THANKS TO SIR E. ASHMEAD BARTLETT- Dr. Treharne said after the hard work they had gone through last week he certainly felt somewhat in sympathy with the Liberal party —stale and unprofitable, and hardly in a fit position to make a speech. He regretted he hail not been able to hear Sir E. Ashmead- Baitlett's speech. He had always taken great interest in reading his excellent opinions on foreign politics, and lie was in entire agree- ment with them. It would hardly be becoming on this occasion, the first time they met to- gether after the glorious performance of last week—(applause)—if Tie did not allude for a moment or two to the great triumph thev secured at the polls in the municipal fights on Thursday lai,t He did not intend to make political capital out of what was. after all. a determined effoit, he believed, of many of the electors of Cardiff to really eschew Imperial questions in the consideration of the great municipal affairs that they had to deal with. That had. been true on the Conservative, side, and he was pleased to think that a large, number of Liberals had severed themselves from their own party because they objected to the methods being adopted in dealing with these municipal questions. It seemed to him that the policy of the municipal party was that they tried to obscure the issues before the electors in the same way that the official Liberal party did in Imperial questions. Their policy was the same- locally and Imperially—to becloud the eyes of the public, and get a verdict without consulting fairly and squarely the public of this country. After the magnificent fights that bad been fought, it was most encouraging to them to hope that, as many Liberals had severed them- selves and seen lie folly of the attitude of their party in municipal matters, they might also look and see the same thing in regard to Imperial questions. (Hear, hear.) In conclu- sion, he proposed a vote of thanks to Sir E. Ashmead Bartlett for his kindness in coming to Cardiff and giving them the excellent address which they had listened to. (Loud c11PPTS,) The Chairman then called upon Mr. George Da,vid to second the proposal, referring to him as "the Roath chicken." Mr. George David, in seconding the motion, said he thought. the chairman had made a slight, mistake, because he was not known as "the Roath chicken" amongst the Radical elec- tors, but as the "pet hmb." (Loud laughter.) It seemed to him that the one great result of the recent election in Cardiff had been to show that amongst the vast majority of the electors of this great town the policy espoused by the Conservative party had their active sympathy and support. (Applause.) Sir Ashmead Bartlett in his able a.nd intellec- tual address raised a noble protest against the honour of England being dragged in the mire. They must be convinced that the African nations to which he had referred had. by treaty and promise, been led to believe that they would have the moral and material support of the British Empire. The vote was then passed by acclamation, and cheers were given for Sir Ashmea.d Bartlett, Lord Salisbury, a.nd Mr. Balfour. SIR ASHMEAD'S REPLY. Sir Ashmead Bartlett, replying, stated that the results of the municipal elections was signi- ficant of a great- Parliamentary victory a.t the nest election. (Cheers.) Apart from his desire to see the party to which he had been attached all his life proceed in the great, town of Cardiff, he had a. special interest in the con- test arising from the nature of the subjects to which he had devoted his address that night. Tt was to questions of that kind that Mr. Mac- lean, when in Parliament, devoted his great ability. (Cheers.) As they all knew, Mr. Maclean had especial knowledge, from personal experience as well as study, in regard to some of the most grave and important- Imperial pro- blems that concerned this country and its great dominion abroad. Mr. Maclean, when in the House of Commons, was always listened to with great respect and deep interest, and he never made a speech in which he did not increase the information and broaden the views of that Imperial Assembly. (Cheers.) Therefore, he (Sir Ashmead) eaid with confidence that if Mr. Maclean were returned for Cardiff at the next election he would do credit to the town, and give an impulse to the Conservative cause throughout the country. They had in Cardiff many good supporters, including his friend the chairman. He would mot propose, the health of Mr. Carr, because that would be the duty of someone else. but hcJ would like to say one or two words with respect to him. Mr. Carr represented in South Wales one of the most modem, but. at the same time. one of the greatest, of existing forces of power—the power of the press. (Cheers.) Not only did Mr. Carr represent th8 power of the Conservative press, but had also proved himself on many occasions a capable platform speaker. (Cheers.).. The English press was the glory of the press of the world Perhaps many of those present were not aware from personal experience of the svperiority of the English press over the press of other nations. Not only Was it superior m its style, Ja; the size of the papers, and in the quality and readability of its news, but in J ita moral qualities. (Hear, hear.) Taking it as a whole, the press of England was in-, corruptible; long- might it remain so. (Cheers.) In his address he had referred to efforts which were being made by interested persons, with the use of eold to keen the facts relating to South Africa and the Swazis in particular from the people of this country. It was to the press of EnsfLa^d—the free and incorruptible press of Engl and-th art our countrymen in South Africa, and the native races there looked for protection. There was implanted in the national character of Eng- lishmen a sacred love of liberty. There had been some slight difference of opinion whether the results of the municipal elec- tions in Cardiff and elsewhere were due to a. great change in political opinion or to local i«sues. He would tell them where those opinions converged. At the present- moment there was a reaction among the people of this country—Imperial!, political, municipal, social, and private-—in favour of individual liherty. f ) The- heart of Englamdi J.
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E3 had arisen against tyranny, and jwt as he had been endeavouring to interest them that evening in favour of the rights and liberties of our countrymen abroad, there was in Cardiff and other' places a. movement in favour of in- dividual action a.nd individual liberty. The time would come when all he had said would be vindicated- (Cheers.) VOTE Or' THANKS TO THE CHAIRM AN. Councillor Henry White proposed a vote of thanks to .Mr. Lascelles Carr for presiding, and in doing so said this was practically the first public occrision upon which they had been able to express their deep and sincere regret that, owing' to 'his precarious health, Mr. Carr for some time had not been able to be amongst them. Thtjy congratulated him that he was with them once more, to create enthusiasm in their midst. (Hear, hear.) He was hke the old war horse, again pawing -lie wind and encourag- ing them te, do their duty. (Applause.) Councilleir Ward, in seconding- the proposi- tion, said "he trusted they in Cardiff would do their duty at the next election. They would work shouJder to shoulder, and they would triumphan iiy return Mir- Maclean at the head of the poll., to support Lord Salisbury in uphold- ing the dignity and honour of this great Empire. {Applause.) Councillor R. Hughes having supported the proposition, the motion was carried, with ring- ing cheers for Mr. Cair. In response, the Chairman expressed the plea- sure it had', given him to be present. He thankerl those gentlemen who had entertained them during the evening by their admirable perfor- mances and those who would have done so had time served. He hoped that they might have in early repetition of that meeting, and, if they jould not £ et Sir Ashmead Bartlett down, then they would indulge in a feast of leason and a [low of soul. (Applause.) The proceedings then terminated. L THE MUSICAL PROGRAMME. 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(FROM SOUTlt WALES OAILY NEWS, 9TH .TANU'ABY, 1894. "VERDICT OF NINE HCSDMD" Under this title, Messrs B. J. Hen.fcii aud Sous, Queen-street, Cardiff, pianoforte makers, organ builders, aud music ware. housemen, have collected au imposing array of testi- monials and Press opinions relating1 to the quality of the musical instruments supplied by them. The firm is so well known iu Cardi/J and, indeed, throughout Sonth Wales and the Wost of England that it is hardly necessary here tu well upon its influence and commanding posi tion. Tliis collection of testimonials serves, however, to do something more thau certify to the excellence of the instruments furnished by Messrs. Heath and Soup.. It shows, in a sense how steady is the growth among- the general public of a desire for a knowledge ot music, ami. liow increasingly numerous, even in the homes of the workine cmsses are mauos. orsrans. an- harmoniums. The srreat niajoritr of the letters in this list relate to pianos ana while mxmv ot thpru have reference to most costlv instruments conthininsr 0,11 the latest improve- ments. supplied to the well to-do, the greater num- ber rel,c,itea- to serviceable instruments purchased for the homes of the wsuTe-earinn^ portion of the community. This g-ro wins'love for so refining an art as music is a most favourable sign. For though iu the PrJllcipnJity Juusic has for generations been the chief recreation of the people, it has for the mos; part been choral musio in connection with churches and chapels that has occupied attention. Instru- mental music IS now, however, feceivintc it.s fair share of attention, and all those in true sympathy with the art must trust that the movement will go steadily onward. These testimonials have been re. ecived from every quarter of the Principality, while not a few come from other portions of the United Kingdom, and some from South America, India, and other distant, countries. All suear, most favourable of Messrs. Heath's business methods as well as of heir instruments. R. J. B"517"1 AND S0^ INVITE INSPECTION. t'FLL TjUSTRATED LISTS AND VERiiICT POST PRES. Grand Theatre Booking Office jfJEECHAM'S PILLs" BP- EEOHAI\:I'S PILLS, BEJEOHAM'S PILLS. -α-F Worth a Guinea, r. Box. BEE CHAM'S PILLa For Bilious Attacks. For Nervous Disorders. I -z)EECH-,Vlvl'S BILLS BEECHAM'S PILLSL For Indigestion in all its forms. IUEEOHAJ'd:'S PILLb. For Wind and Pains in the Stomach. BEECHAM'S PILLS. For Sick Headache. PILLS BEECH am's PILLS Have Saved the Lives Thousands. BEECHAM'S PILLs! For Giddiness. EEECHAMS PILLS. B For Fulness and Swelling after Meals. BEECHAM'S PILLS JL? Are Worth a Guinea a Box. BEECHAM'S PILLS. 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Arthur. At the Mercy of Tiberius. Advice to Young Men, &c.—W. Cofcbett. Arabian Nigiits. i Arthur, T. S.—Anna Lee. Alden, Mrs—Interrupted. >, —New Graft on the Family Alcott, Miss—Little Women and Good Wires* Ainsworth—Miser's Daughter. Barnaby Radge—Dickens. Barriers Burned Away-E. P. Roe. Basket of Flowers and Lena fu-vern-M. J Holnes. Bride's Fate—Mrs. E. Southworth. Bunyan, J.—Pilgrim's Progress. Bronte, E.—Wuthering Heights. Broute, 0.—Jane Eyre. -Shirley. —Tenant of Windfell Hall. Bi-nnett, Mrs.—Jane Shore. „ —Cottage Girl. „ —Gipsy Bride. Carried by Storm—M. A. Fleming. Changed Brides—Mrs. Sont-hworth. Cottage Gkl—Mrs. Bennett. Cottage on the Cliff-Mrs., C. Masoa. Cobbett, W.—Advice to Young Men. Cervantes—Don Quixote. Oockton-Sylvester Sound. —Valentinfe Vox. ) Cummins—The Lamplighter- Daisy—E. Wetherell- David üoppertield-Dicken8. Dombey and Son—Dickens. V Don Quixote—Cervantes- i DisownBd-Lvtton. ) Dickens, C.—Barnaby Rudge. —David Copper-field.; —Dombey and Son. —Martin Chuzzlewtt. „ —Nicholas Nickleby. —Oliver Twist. —Old Curiosity Shop. -Pickwick Papers. ■—Sketches by Boa. De Foe—Robinson Crusoe. Edith Lv-Ie. Edna Browning. Ernest Maltravers—Lytton. Eugene Aram—Lytton- Eve of St. Agnes—Mrs- C. Mason. I Endless Chain. Evans, A. J.—Vashti. Fair Rosamond—Miller. s< From Jest to Earnest—Roe. Farmer of Inglewood Forest—E. IMBM. Forest Girl. Forrest House. Fleming, M. A.—Aotrees's Daughter. » —Carried by Storm. —Queen of the Islt. Gidøon Giles, the Roper. I Gretchen—Mrs. Holmes. t Gentleman's Book of Manners. « t Giosy Bride—Mrs. Bennett. Gaskell, Mrs.—Mary Barton. ■ Handy Andv-Lover. Harry Lorrèquer-Lever. Hea,rt Histories and Life Pictures. Her Shield. Heart of Midlothian-Soott. Holmes, M. J.—Basket of Flowers, &0. -G-retchen. —Mildred. Helme. E.—Farmer of Inglewood Forest Inez—A. J. E. Wilson. Infelice-A. J. E. Wilson. Interrupted—Mrs. Alden. Ivanhoe—Soott. Ingraham—Prince of the House-of David. { —Throne of David. —Pillar of Fire. Jack's Cousin Kate—E. C. Kenyon. Jacob Faithful—Marryat. Jane Eyre—C. Bronte. Jane Shore—Mrs. Bennett. Jessamine. Jew's Daughter. Knight of the Nineteenth Century-Ree. King's Daughter. King's Own-Marryat. Kenyon, E. C.—Jack's Cousin Kate. f- Living and Loving—V. Townsend. Ladv Jane Grey- Little Women and Good Wires—Miss AlcotC, I Little Frolic. Lady's Book of Manners. Lamplighter—Cummins. Last Days of Pompeii—Lytton. Lytton, Bulwer—Alice. „ —Disowned. —Ernesrt Maltrarers. —Eugene Aram. —Last Days of Pompeii. —Paul Clifford. „ —Pelham. —RienzL —Zanoni. Lover—Handy Andy. —'P.ory O'More. LAver-Harry Lorrequer. Margies. The-E. J. Moore. Mildred-Holme8. Macaria-A. J. Wilson. Maria Marten. Marian Grey. Mary Barton—GaskeTI. Martin Chuzzlewit—Dicfcam. Melbourne Honse-E. Wetherell. Miser's Daughter—Ainsworth. Marryat—Jacob Faithful. —Peter Simple. —King's Own. -Poacher, The. Miller. T.—Rovston Gower. Mix well—Stories of Waterloo. Moore, E. J.—The Margies. Mason, Mrs. C.—Cottage on the OliflP. —Eve of Sfc. Agnes. N aomi—W ebb. Nicholas Nickltlbv-Dickem. New Graft on the Family Tree—Mr?. Ald- Oliver Twist—Dickens. Opening a Chestnut Burr—Roe. Old Curiosity Shop—Dickens. Prince of the House of Darid^-Ingraham. Poacher. The—Marryat. Pillar of Fire—Ingraham. Pamela—Ri chardson. Pickwick Papers—Dickons. Passages from the Diary of A Late Physicia.r" Warren. (*uul Clifford—Lytton. Pelham—Lytton. :°eter Simple—Marryat. Pins, Needle*, and Old Yarns. Porter—Scottish Chiefs. Pilgrim's Progress—Bnnyau. Public Reciter. Qneechy—Warner. Queen of the Isle—Fleming. Ripnzi-Lvtton. Robinson Crusoe. Rory O'More—Lover. Rovston Gower—T. Miller. Roiliner Stone. J Roe, E. P.—Knight of Nineteenth Cerste^* l —Barriers Burned Away. „ —From Jest to Earnest. „ —Ooening a Ci^stnut Buir. —Without a Home. Richnrdson—Pamela. Shirley—C. Bronte. Sketches by Boz—Dickens. St. Elmo—A J. E. Wilson. Stories of Waterloo—Maxwell Sunday Sunshine. Susan" Hopley. Sylvester Sound-CocktOll. Scottish Chiefs—Porter. Shadow on the Homt. Story of Mary. Rtorv of Mildred. Scott, Sir W.—Tvnnho*. —Heart of MidlotM««. Southworth, Mrs. E.—Bride's Fate. ^owe. Mrs. Beecher—Uncle Tom's Gat;la. Ten Thousand a- Tear—Warren. Tenant of Windfell Hall—Bronffee. Throne of Dnvid—Ingraham. Townsend, V.—Living and Lrfmhff. —While it was Morning. | Thackeray, W. M.—Va>nity Fair. I Uncle Tom's Cabin-Bee.cher Stowe. 1 Vanity Fair—Thackeray. f Vashti—A..T. Evans. I Valentine Vox—Cockton. E What She Said and-What She Meant. | Without a RornA-Roe. H- '1,0 it was Morning—V. F. Townwnd. I Wuthering Heights—E. Bronte. L Wonder Gatherer. [ Wide, Wide World—E. Wetherell. Wetherell, E.—Wide. Wide World. » —Melbourne House. I —Daisy. £ W ebb-—N ao mi. Js Wilson, A. J. E. —Inez. # „ —Macaria. i —St. Elmo. Warren, S.—Passages from the Diiry Physician. • —Ten Thousand a. Year. Zanoni—Lytton. Printed bv the Proprietors, Daniel Owen and (Tiimited'), and jyublisbed by them at their Tudor-road, Cardiff: at their offices. Castle street-, Swansea; at tlie shoi) of Mr. Wesley < liams, Bridgend- all in the County of at the "Western Mail" Offices, Newport; at 'Pi shop of Mr. J. P. Cftffrey. Monmouth, both in 7ft County of Monmouth; and at the shop of Mr- Davies, Llanelly, in the County of Carmarthen- THURaDAY. NOYBMBSJB 8, 1894.