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TREGARON LICENSING SESSIONS
TREGARON LICENSING SESSIONS TUESDAY. Before Messrs D J Williams, Rev D Edwards' Rev T R Davies, Dr. Lloyd, Dr. Morgan, Mr Peter Davies, Mr Evan Evans. The Chief Constable informed the Bench that the licensee of the King's Hall, Lledrod, had agreed to tnke out a six day's license instead of a seven day. Capt. Fossett Roberts said his firm also consented to take out a six day's license.-The Bench agreed to renew the license. Richard Evans, Cross Inn, Llandwydd, and Thomas Davies, Crown and Anchor, Tregaron, whose licenses were adjourned from the last Sessions now appeared before the Bench. The Chief Constable said both licensees had been convicted last year and they were ordered by the Bench to attend that Court.—The Chair- man said the licenses would be renewed, but they were warned as to their future conduct. The Bench then proceeded to hear objections to the renewal of the license of the Cross Inn, Ffair Rhos. Mr A J Hughes, Aberystwyth, appeared for the licensee and owners. P.S. Lewis said the license of the Cross InUt Flair Rhos, was a six day license. He proceeded to describe the external arrange- ments of the bouse, which he said contained 1 3aly two bedrooms. lie knew the house for -he last 23 years and the trade done was much lrss than formerly. The nearest house was the Black Lion, Pont. The population of the f parish had gone down by 144 in 20 years. 1 rhere was no need for this house. Plans for the improvement of the house had been sub- mitted in September, but nothing had been ione. —Cross-examined But the work was to be done before the end of June, and it was badly needed. As far as the conduct of the house was concerned, there was no complaint. -P.C. Jones, Bout, said ho had often been to the house and found the trade was very small. In his opinion the house was not required at all.-Cross-examined I never had a complaint against the house. A large number of travellers passed this house on their way to Sheeplands and the fishing pools, and it would be inconvenient for them to go to Pont. There was DO objection in the district to the house, and he would not object unless he was ordered to do so.—Re-examined The licensee did not take any part in the management of the house as he was engaged in South Wales.—Mr Hughes You do not suggest his wife is not capable of looking after the house.Witness No—Addressing the Bench, Mr Hughes pointed out that not a single objection had been made to the house, and remarked on the expense his clients had been put to. Plans of the proposed alterations had been passed. and the work was to be carried out. He thought it was unduly harrassing the owner and occupier to bring this case up again. There was only £ 400 to R500 in the compen- sation fund, and he suggested that the Bench should wait until the fund got to such propor- tions that they could deal with the whole district. In the case of Blue Bell Inn, Nantcwnlle, in which Mr Daniel Watkins appeared for the licensee, P.S. Lewis said the inn was straw thatched. The local trade was fairly good, and the nearest licensed house was the Red Lion, Talsarn. This house was better than the Blue Bell. The population had decreased 138 in 20 years. In his opinion the house was not required.P.C. Thomas said he had known the house for some years, and the trade done was fairly good. Evidence was given in the case of the Fountain Inn, Swyddffynon, by P.S. Lewis. The trade he said was small, and there was another house a mile away at Ystrad Meurig. He was of opinion this house was not required. It was a fully licensed house, but owing to the smallness of the trade only a beer license was taken out.-P.C. Jones also gave evidence. The Bench took a considerable time to con- sider the cases, and the Chairman announced that the Cross Inn would be renewed, but the licenses of the Fountain Inn and Blue Bell would be referred for compensation.
CHARGE OF WIFE DESERTION.
CHARGE OF WIFE DESERTION. Mary Thomas, Temperance House, Tre- garon, charged her husband, James Thomas, Pentrebout, with having deserted her on Feb. 19th.—Mr Daniel Watkins appeared for the complainant, and Mr W. P. Owen for the defendant.—Complainant said that she was at Aberystwyth on February 19th and drew R,2, but on returning home her husband started cursing and swearing. Ha said he only wanted her money, so she called in Thomas Evans to hear what was boing said.—Cross-examined On February 8th they called at Mr Owen's office, and told Mr Owen they had agreed to go back, but she did not tell him to write to the Clerk and stop the case. She did not say that she would not have left him if it were not for the relatives.— Mr Owen That is all imagination on my part r-Complainant Yes. —Cross-examined continued She bad zC26 10s in the bank, and a few months ago she was paid X73 by the Vicar of Tregaron.-Her husband had had £ 12 10s Od.-Mr Owen Where is the R60 ?-Complainant He has had them.—Mr Owen When was it taken out ?- Complainant He had it to pay his debts.—Mr Owen How much did you both takeout of the bank ?—Complainant £ 12.—Mr Owen How old is your husband ?—Complainant I don't know (laughter).—Mr Owen Did you marry him without knowing his age ?—Com- plainant I did not ask him (laughter). —Sarah Evans, an aged witness living at Tregaron, said defendant told her he would thrash his wife if she came back.—Thos. Evans, a neighbour, said he never heard of any com- plaint by the complainant of the conduct of her husband.—Cross-examined She said the reason she left her husband was at the request of her relatives, as she had nothing against James. He saw cooked food in the house on Thursday night.—The Bench dismissed the case.
'FURTHER PRESENTATIONS TO…
'FURTHER PRESENTATIONS TO THE REV. J. E. LLOYD. On Friday evening, following the weekly meeting of the S. Michael's branch of the. Church of England Temperance Society, presentations on behalf of the C.K.T.S., the Men's Bible Class, and the New Market Hall Sunday School were made to the Rev J. E. Lloyd. The following programme was first gone through :-Song, Miss Jennie Jones recitation, Miss Harris song, Miss Annie Campbell song, Mr T. Thomas Rees song, Mr Jones recitation. Miss Warrington song, Mr C. Evans address by the Vicar*. The Vicar (Rev M. J. Powell, D.D.) said they were no doubt all aware of what was to take place that evening, and after a few remarks he called upon Mr Panchen to say a few words as to the work of Mr Lloyd in con- nection with the C.E.T.S. Mr Charles Panchen, organist of St. Michael's, who spoke on behalf of the members of the C.E.T.S., said the temperance work in the parish was going to prosper even after Mr Lloyd had left them. The members of that society had reason to be proud of taking part in that presentation, and that evening was a red letter day in the history of temperance in the parish (hear, hear). The existence of the society was due to the efforts of Mr Lloyd. The society had passed through good and evil days, and at one time there was a flourishing society, and as was generally the case people dropped off but Mr Lloyd had always stood by its side, and had it not have bee for him the society would have been extinct some years ago. Mr Lloyd's work of temperance did not end with that society, for he had for some years acted as rural decanal secretary of the C.E.T.S. He had held meetings in various parts of the deanery, and had created interest in the work. They all knew his virtues as a temperance worker, and he (the speaker) had found him to be an excellent priest, and as they knew he had on two occasions sole charge of the parish. He knew of cases where Mr Lloyd had done his best to get people to see the evil of their ways, and he had really been an helper of lame dogs over stiles." In con- cluding the speaker wished Mr Lloyd every possible success in his new sphere. Mrs Corfield, North parade, also voiced what had been said by Mr Panchen. They were losing a good temperance worker in Mr Lloyd, who had been a great help to the society. She hoped they would do their best to increase the interest in the society, and nothing would please Mr Lloyd more than to hear they had succeeded (hear, hear). Mrs Panchen asked the rev gentleman to accept the solid oak revolving desk-fitting chair, and in doing so wished him every success and prosperity. The Rev J. E. Lloyd said he was at a loss bo know what to say. He thanked the mem- bers of the society for the useful gift, and imidst much laughter said he hoped the people :>f Llanwrtyd would not complain of their vicar 1 sitting in the chair all day. With regard to temperance Mr Lloyd said his heart had always been with that work (hear, hear). It was necessary in these days to do something for the temperance cause, as a great many men 1 md women were lost owing to the drink. Drink was on the decrease amongst men but on the increase amongst women. He hoped the St Michael's branch would Sourish, and as Mr Panchen had stated they had had trying times, and on one or two occasions they nearly s went to the walls that evening the society was in a flourishing state, still there was room for improvement, and the old Welsh saying Nid da lie ellir gwell" sh >uid be remeai- bered. If he had the same backing up at LI an wrtyd as he had received at Aberystwyth he would be very happy indeed. He had been told there was a great deal of uphill work to be done there, and he asked them to remember him in their prayers and that God may bless his efforts to overcome the work beset him (hear, hear). f Mr J. Lloyd said that as secretary of the Men's Bible Class he felt that it was his duty j to bear testimony to the good work of Mr Lloyd. He did not mean to repeat and apply to the Bible Class all the nice things which had been said during the past week about Mr Lloyd it would be sufficient for him to say that the enthusiasm shown and work done by Mr Lloyd in connection with the class was on the same high level as that attained in all the other organisations with which Mr Lloyd had been associated. Mr Lloyd bad voluntarily established the class at a time when the health of the late Vicar did not admit of his taking such an active part in the work of the different classes as he wished. Consequently more work fell upon the assistant clergy, and par- ticularly upon Mr Lloyd. But for Mr Lloyd to take upon himself to do anything meant success, and the Bible Class was no exception, and although it had been difficult many times for him to attend it was rarely that he was absent. It had been a great privilege to the members to belong to the class, and they felt that they could not let Mr Lloyd leave them without showing him, if only in a small degree, that they greatly appreciated his services. The members had most willingly subscribed, and several past members now living out of Aberystwyth, had written to him enclosing donations. Mr Stubbs, Northgate street, also spoke, and eulogised the work of Mr Lloyd in con- nection with the Bible class. Mr Benjamin Jones, Troedybryn, then pre- sented Mr Lloyd with a Gestetner patent cyclostyle, and in doing so Mr Jones expressed the hope that the lessons which they had received would bring forth good fruit. I Miss Gilbertson, in a few well chosen words, handed to Mr Lloyd a reading lamp on behalf of the New Market Sunday School. Mr Lloyd, in replying, thanked Miss Gilbertson for the kind and becoming way in which she had made the presentation, and for the kind remarks of other speakers. The gifts were very useful, and he quite agreed with Miss Gilbertson with regard to the New Market Hall. The espirit de corps there was remarkable, and he hoped the good feeling would continue. He trusted the Sunday School would increase not only in numbers bot in efficiency, which was far more important. With regard to the Bible Class they had passed many happy hours together, and be hoped they had benefitted in some way as a result. In concluding Mr Lloyd ajrain thanked them for the presents and for ¡¡ 11 kindness which he had received, and said bo would never forget them as long as they lived (hear, hear).
--PENYPARKE.
PENYPARKE. PRESENTATION.-An interesting meeting took place in the Penyparke National School on Wednesday evening, when the members of I the Welsh Sunday School presented the Rev J E Lloyd, B.A., B.D., with a handsome surplice on the occasion of his departure from the district. The chair was taken by Mr A B Thomas, M.A., U.C.W., who in the course of an address dealt with the great services rendered to the Welsh Church in that village by Mr j Lloyd, who had always been ready to champion the weaker cause. The presentation was made fcy Miss Morgan, grocer, Bridge street, who expressed the wish that Mr Lloyd would enjoy long life and continued success in his now sphere of action. The Rev J E Lloyd, acknow- ledged the gift in a short speech, thanking them warmly for the surplice itself, but above all for the spirit in which it was given. He had always taken a keen interest in the Church at that place, and he hoped that they would soon have a Church Mission Room of their own. Two generous donors had already subscribed £ 100 and negotiations were already on foot for the erection of the Mission Soom. He hoped they wouJd continue to wcrk together unselfishly for the glory of God, and that they would help him even after his departure with their prayers. He expressed the hope that when the new building was ready to be opened, they would not forget to send him an invitation and he would take care to bring the surplice with hia>. Tea provided by the ladies of the school, was afterwards partaken of.
---INTER-COLLEGIATE FOOTBALL.
INTER-COLLEGIATE FOOTBALL. ABERYSTWYTH v. CARDIFF. The annual football match between repre- sentatives of Aberystwyth and Cardiff Colleges was played on the Vicarage field Aberystwyth, on Tuesday afternoon. I w^ an ideal day for football, and a large o ¡.Hi turned out to witness the match. The teams were as follows :—Aberystwyth. H Roberts; R Price Evans and E 0 Parry W D Thomas, Peter Edwards, and E S J Harper T J James, H V James, W J James, Harry Evans, and H Ll Evans. Cardiff Moreton T Pugh and M Smith Serine, D Davies, and J Taylor S Jones, T Thomas, J Driscoll, Morris, and M Davies. The referee was Mr Tom Cartwright, Aber- ystwyth. Aberystwyth shot off, and the visitors out- side right soon came into prominence with a fine centre which Roberts cleared. After an inenrsion into the Cardiff territory, Jones made a fine run on the visitors right, but Evans cleared when Roberts was out oi goal. Aberystwyth attacked, and H V James when nicely placed sent wide. The homesters kept up the pressure but the Cardiff defence was sound. From a free kick which was nicely placed by R P Evans, Harry Evans netted after some ten minutes play. The homesters encouraged by this success again atta- ked, and W J James sent over the bar. A fruitier corner ell to the ¡vi of A bory it«vy th. Play continued ior some time in mid-field. Davies, of Cardiff, when well placed, sent yards over the bar. Davies having beaten Evans missed by inches only. Roberts brought a capital clearance oft Davies when the defence was I e beaten. Half-time soon arrived with the score: Aberystwyth 1 goal Cardiff Nil. On resuming Aberystwwth attacked, and Bert James, after beating the defence scored No. 2. Driscoil was badly fouled by Evans when he was making tracks for the home goal but nothing came of the ensuing free kick. Peter Edwards next tested Moreton with a pot shot but he proved equal to the occasion. A free kick was awarded to Cardiff, but the ittack that followed was weak. Aberystwyth forced a corner. This was nicely placed by Harper, but Moreton cleared from Peter Edwards. Play was now of an even character aach goal being visited in turn. A corner, however, fell to the lot of Cardiff, but this was abortive. Cardiff were becom ng dan- gerous when Driscoll was pulled up for off- side. A corner for Aberystwyth was placed wide. Aberystwyth, who pressed for some bime, forced a couple of corners, all of which were abortive. Davies, the visitors' outside right, made a fine run and had hard lines in not scoring, the ball going a few inches wide of the mark. Aberystwyth were press:ag when time was cailed with the score Aberystwyth 2 goals. Cardiff Itlii ,,M, Nil.
- ST. JOHN'S COLLEGE, YSTRAD…
ST. JOHN'S COLLEGE, YSTRAD MEUIUG Y. WEDNESDAY ROVERS. This match was played at Ystrad Meurig on Wednesday, February 17th, in lovely weather. The Wednesdays played a grand game and showed that they were a bit too good for the Collegians who have beaten the Wednesdays twice this season, but on Wednesday the Rovers had their own back beating them two goals to one. The scorers were John Elias Griffiths and Hoghie Jones.
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LLANBADARN. OONCBRT.—One of the most successful concerts held in this village was held at the Soar C.M. chapel on Wednesday evening, the chair being taken by Mr David Lloyd, Bryntirion, Aberyst- wyth. The proceeds will be given to the funnds towards procuring an organ for the chapel. The accompanist was Mr J. C. McLean, F.R.C.O., and the following contributed to the programme;- Misses Rosie Jones, Mollie Owen, and Nesta Morgan, Aberystwyth, Mr D. O. Morris, B.A., U.C.W., Miss Kate Ellis, Council School, Bronant* Miss Eli en Ellis, Llangwyryfon, and Mr J. C. Davies, Aberystwyth, On the proposition of the Rev. W. G. Harries, seconded by Mr John Williams, a hearty vote of thanks was passed to all who had taken part. As a result of the effort the sum of £ 24 was realised. The rapidity of settlement in Western Canada is causing the local legislatures at Saskatchewan and Alberta to consider the question of assisting in the construction of branch lines into new districts, which otherwise might not be served as soon as desirable. The salmon pace in British Columbia for the calendar year of 1908 has just been returned at 542,689 cases. The next" big year" salmon run —which occurs every five years—is due this year, and the salmon canneries are now making their preliminary preparations. On the last occasion in 1905. the salmon pack of the province was 1,167,460 cases and it is expected that the catch this year will fully equal that figure.
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-ABERYSTWYTH BANKRUPTCY COURT.
ABERYSTWYTH BANKRUPTCY COURT. [FRIDAY.] Before Mr Registrar JOSEPH DAVIES. CHARLES MORGAN. The Official Receiver resumed the public examination of Charles Morgan, butcher and warmer, of Troedyrhiw, Bethel. The total liabilities expected to rank for dividend were placed at iC202 5s Od. One book debt of fS200 14s Od was marked as bad, and a balance Or £ 4 from fixtures, etc., was entered as the only asset. The causes of failure, as alleged by bank- i ^upt were as follows:—Bad debt; loss in con- Election with motion brought by Official Receiver as trustee of the estate of Margaret ^awards, butcher, Aberystwyth, to set aside a ill of saie given to him by Richard Edwards, •he bankrupt's husband, and the dismissal of appeal to the Divisional Court against the ■order tnade on such motion. The bankrupt accounted for hi" deficiency by the following Item Loss on Mrs Margaret Edwards, I butcher, Aberystwyth, through her bankruptcy -n printed observations the ^fficial Receiver said bankrupt stated that j*10 proceedings before mentioned were not taken on his instructions, but that the same were taken by another person, who gave him 0 Understand that he would not be responsible ,op the costs thereof. In reply to questions 5*ebtor said he wanted the signatures of both icliard and Margaret Edwards placed to the of sale, but he was toid it was not accessary.— Before adjourning at the end of e first meeting the Official Receiver said his lamination of that case would point to a » ftain degree of professional misconduct, and e would like the further hearing adjourned in ^raer that the person concerned should be Present. — The Registrar accordingly adjourned »0tn February 19th. The Official Receiver reminded the Registrar «iat the case was adjourned in order that Mr amuei might be present. It was rather ^rious lor Mr Samuel. The facts were that vL ^orSan became involved in connection ^iththe estate of Margaret Edwards. That 3vrally accounted for his insolvency. Mr organ had made a written statement that he as not really responsible for the costs curred in respect of that litigation and involved Mr Samuel. J-he Registrar No questions were asked? si ^Scial Receiver No; in order to give Mr an opportunity of being present. Now. lip ^Vr £ an» I only want to ask you about this }gation and the bill of sale. You remember t eitig present in this room during the exami- ation of Margaret Edwards ? Yes. S Did you have a conversation with Mr tt>uel after the examination ? I do not Did you see him after that ? Yes. « hat did he say about the bill of sale ? Mr ft.tt'uel said it would be alright, as a leading kat* said at did Mr Samuel say he was going to tyj.* He said he could not take the case on fcot signing an affidavit, and I told him as take any case on, that I had no money, ^new my money had all gone; but he Offi • WaS take on the case. to a Ieceiver You take plenty of time to relate exactly what took place with regard jg taking these proceedings ? I told Mr ^Uel not to go on with the case because I n° money to throw away after bad. j. ^arnuel said a K.C. in London had advised was a good case to go on with and that wonid not iose< x told him that if he was on with the case on his own account I gi s Perfectly willing, and all the help I could if h Was PrePare(* to give. I told him Sat'6 WOn case that I would be quite tolH 6C* on^y Save me a sovereign. I was J tllat if they won the case at Aberystwyth lsb»«Whave £ 50. i. was to happen if he lost ? It was all s own account; I told fhim that I had no ^y to lose. v lc\ he agree to take it upon these terms ? J it was upon those grounds. jj. 'd you have several conversations with and did he repeat the terms upon which tirti^011^ ta^e t^10 case on ^es severa* 'th Did he send for you to make an affidavit or a purpose of the case ? Yes. y letter? Yes. I had a letter on a Satur- fcu? •atlC' came to Aberystwyth on the Monday, tow WrtS not ready» anc* ha(* to come to the*1 a^a'u* I went to Mr Samuel's office on Jja S(;cond occasion, and he said to me I w6 keen on your business all day and we are ready-" told him to make haste as I nted to catch the train. Mr Samuel sent to, ^ith a clerk to the office of Mr Hugh \j§hes. b 0 y°u know what you were going to Mr fh ghes's oiffce for ? Not until I came away there. did you do there ? I went on my oath IJ, signed my name. Then you made an affidavit there ? Yes. you read it before you swore to it? No. Was it read over ? No. or explained to you No. ^facial Receiver And you simply swore to MtLaper drawn out for y°u by Mr Samuel ^0u ut reading it or having it explained to sj. Yes until that day my;faith was very yDS in Mr Samuel. i ou trusted him and swore to what he put j?.te you ? Yes. you go back to Mr Samuel's o £ Bce ? X?id he then explain to you the affidavit ? o. ^id he read anything out of it ? Yes. "at did he tell you was in it ? I do not e^mber. sa7 about it ? I do not remem- the conversation. bila Mr Samuel tell you it would be necessary J You to come down on the following Thurs- ? Yes, and I went to his office. ho did you see there ? The Clerk, ^hybody else ? D. L. Jones. ld he see Mr Samuel ? Yes. ^nybody else ? No, one. "id you see Mr Gr]ffith jones? Yes but in the office I saw him in North parade, you go there with Mr Samuel ? Yes. ^n7,^at conversation took place there ? W between me and Mr Griffith Jones, ■Qp-fo • Jones gave his evidence. Mr Co*, k Jones and Mr Samuel told me not to near the Court. 'th Plather dangerous I should think and after y t you went back to Mr Samuel's office ? about 3 o'clock. tj0 the morning was there no conversa- 21 nt between you and Mr Samuel about the v oceedings ? Yes, on our way to Mr Griffith °^es'lodgings. jw as there not some conversation about the feedings at Mr Samuel's office ? Yes. tkp hat was it about ? Mr Samuel kept saying case would not be lost. id he tell you to stay in the office until he ill, e back ? He told me not to go near the lwtl Hall. "hen did you see him again ? I went there er the Court was over. *>o i-^a^ ^ou sa^ there was Htl teninS to what took plaoe at Aberyst- th Griffith Jones was in the office at Sn^ hat happened ? Mr Griffith Jones told xt only come off just as he expected it 13141(1 in Aberystwyth, and said once it went to London or to the assizes it would not stand three minutes. I said to Mr Jones Look here, I must tell you again, as I have told Mr Samuel several times, that I have no good money to throw after bad." He said You have given the case to Mr Samuel." I said "Alright, it is between you and him." He replied Alright, my boy, it will not be more than X15 or £20 to take the case to London." Were you willing to pay el5 or £ 20 ? I would not pay 15 farthings, as I did not have 15 pence at the time. Did you tell them so? Yes. What did they tell you? They said they would take it upon their own ground. Was there any talk about what would happen if they won ? Yes, and I said I left it to the good will of Mr Samuel. Did you tell Mr Griffith Jones the terms arranged by you and Mr Samuel ? I said so much as that. Did you discuss how much you were to have if they were successful ? The bargain was that if they won in Aberystwyth I was to have £50. Did you ever instruct Mr Samuel at any time to take proceedings ? No. Did you ever instruct him to take proceed- ings against me? No. Did you ever instruct him to issue a writ ? Not to my knowledge. Did he ever tell you to go and speak to Mr Richard Edwards, butcher ? Yes. What did he tell you to do? To ask him if Mrs Edwards had confessed that Mr Edwards owned the things as he had been given to understand. Did he tell you the reason why he wished you to ask that question ? No but he said that if Margaret Edwards made that confession it would be sufficient to appeal against the Official Receiver. No donbt! Did Mr Samuel ever tell you that I had written him several letters asking him to take proceedings against me ? He told me several times that he had had letters from the Official Receiver, but I did not attach much importance to it as it was quite immaterial to me. Why y I was so shocked at losing my money with Mrs Edwards. Do you mean it was of no interest to you ? Mr Samuel I hardly think it is a fair question. Registrar I do not think it is unfair. Mr Thomas is doing his duty, and he wants Mr Morgan to explain what he meant by his last answer. The Official Receiver: Mr Morgan states he really had no interest in it and upon that statement I am justified in asking him what he meant by saying he had no interest in it. The Official Receiver put in a letter which he had received from Mr Samuel in which he said Counsel was still of the opinion that the Official Receiver was liable and ended by saying My client presses proceedings." Bankrupt: I never pressed proceedings. The Official Receiver: Then what he says in this letter is not true did you ever ask him to press or to take proceedings against me ? Not at all. So you never pressed him to go on with the matter ? No. Did you ever read the affidavit which I made in this matter before the case come on at Aberystwyth? No. Yoa know you have sworn in that affidavit which you made before Mr Hugh Hughes that you had done so? Yes, I know now because it has been pointed out to me. Did you know when you made that affidavit that you had issued a writ against me ? Yes. And was it issued with your consent? No. Did Mr Samuel tell you he was going to issue a writ against me ? I do not remember what he said. You have sworn to what took place between me and Mr Samuel's clerk at the station and you were not there at the time the conversa- tion took place ? I was not there. You knew nothing about it? No. Did you know that when you made this affidavit before Mr Hughes you were saying what had taken place between me and Mr Samuel's clerk at the station ? No. Do you know that you were also swearing to what took place between Mr Samuel's clerk and Mr W. P. Owen in his omce ? No I was not there; I did nothing in the case, but promised to support Mr Samuel when the case went on. I think upon that answer I am entitled to ask if he really was only carrying out his promise to assist Mr Samuel. Registrar: Yes. The Official Receiver: So as a matter of fact all the interest you had in this matter you were carrying out in your promise to assist Mr Samuel to take this action upon his own account ? Yes. Your faith was so strong in Mr Samuel that you would have sworn the affidavits put before you ? Yes. Did you ever authorise Mr Samuel to appeal against the decision of the Judge at Aberyst- wyth ? No. C, Did you ever see the notice of appeal ? No. Did you pay the deposit of £ 20? I did not pay 20 farthings from the beginning of the case. Did he say who was paying for the case at Aberystwyth ? He said he paid £3. Has he ever asked you for the money ? No. Did you ever expect to have a bill? No. Why ? Because he was taking the case himself. Did you know that my bill of costs with regard to the case before the Judge at Aber- ystwyth had been sent in to be taxed ? No. Did you ever authorise an application in London to have the taxation stayed ? No. Is it now you have heard of it for the first time ? Yes. So therefore you did not authorise employ- ment of counsel ? No. Did Mr Samuel ever ask you for the money with which to pay the fees? No, fair play to him, he never asked me for a penny. But he told you he had paid fees ? 'Yes. How much ? I do not remember the amount, but he said zC36 or £37. What did you say ? Nothing. How did that conversation come about ? I went to complain to him because he had taken the case out in my name. What did Mr Samuel say ? That justice sometimes worked out wrong. Did Mr Samuel ever tell you that Mr Owen had written to him about depositing a part of the costs ? No. Did you know anything about the appeal in London? Mr Samuel said they were taking the case to London. What did you say ? Nothing beyond hoping that they would be successful. Did you know what date it was coming on ? Not until Mr Samuel told me after the case had passed. Did Mr Samuel consult you about having a K.C. to lead in London ? He said something before going to London. One of the grounds of appeal was that you had not had time to make out your case, but as a matter of fact Mr Samuel told you not to go near the"Town Hall ? Yes I was not to show myself near the Town Hall. As a matter of fact he stopped you making out your case ? Yes. When did you first know that you were liable for all these costs? On Hiring Monday. I met Mr Samuel in the street and he said Hello Charles Morgan you owe us some money." I asked what for and he said "That old case has been lost in London." I said What is that to me." He then said "Come with me to the office." I went to the office and waited there sometime, but business was calling me and the London case had nothing to do with me. You say you had nothing to do with it ? Yes. Who do you say was responsible for it ? Mr Samuel. Do you suggest that Mr Samuel has brought you into your present position ? Yes. And if it were not for this litigation you would be a solvent man to-day ? Yes. When did you see Mr Samuel again? On the Thursday following in his office, Mr Thos. Jones, of Caegwent, and Mr Charles Evans, butcher, were with me. What took place ? I asked him what was all this trouble he had caused me and he said justice sometimes lost the day. Did you discuss the fact that you were not responsible for the case ? Yes. What did you say ? I said he was responsible for everything. Mr Thomas Jones offered Mr Samuel X20 to settle with Mr W. P. Owen, to save me going bankrupt. Did you speak to Mr Samuel about your non-liability to pay the costs ? Yes. What happened ? He said that justice lost the day. Did he say who was paying the costs ? No I did not ask the question and he did not ask me. With regard to this offer of P,20 what did Mr Samuel say? He said it would be nothing but tempting Mr W. P. Owen, but he said he would try as Mr Thomas, the Official Receiver, was coming over the next day and he would speak to them. I saw him on the following Monday when he told me that Mr Thomas had promised to call in before going away by train and he told me to call again. I did so, but I do not know if I should say what he told me. Oh yes, you must ? Mr Samuel said when he offered the money to Mr Owen that gentle- man was cursing and swearing (laughter). Mr Owen told you he had never been there ? Yes. This iE20 was to be subscribed ? Yes. Who paid the costs of your petition ? Charles Evans. Who advised you to file your petition ? Mr Samuel. The Official Receiver said he would leave the examination there. Mr Samuel then proceeded to cross-examine the debtor When you came to my office to file your petition who was there P Nobody. Did you not have someone advising you not to file ? Yes. Was Thos. Jones with you ? Yes. Did he say they would subscribe in the neighbourhood ? Yes. And you asked me what amount? Yes. Do you remember me telling you that it would be useless offering less than £25. Debtor asked to explain that Mr Samuel j offered to make up the difference in order to pay Mr W. P. Owen if Mr Morgan would sign ( a note to pay it back. i Mr Samuel: Did I not say it was P,40 and ] then came down to £30 and then to £25? No. j Did you not say it would be useless as you 1 could not make more than JE10 or J615 ? I said nothing of the kind. Did you not go out and afterwards come back to inquire if the R15 was to include my costs ? Yes. I said no, but that I would not press for my costs until you found better times ? Yes. You instructed me to attend the meeting of Mrs Margaret Edwards ? No. Did you not come down that morning and ask me to go to the Town Hall ? I had been to the office before that. And you instructed me to prepare your proof and to attend the meeting. When she was bankrupt you bought the papers to me ? Yes. And you instructed me to go down to the public examination ? Yes. Did I not advise you to get counsel's opinion upon the bill of sale? You told me you had sent the case to counsel and he told you that it was a good case. The Official Receiver: Do you say he instructed you to take counsel's opinion. Mr Samuel Yes. The Official Receiver: Then you must hand those papers over to me as they belong to the bankrupt. Mr Samuel: You gave me all the informa- tion you had in connection with the case ? I do not say no I am not certain. Do you remember giving me the information as to some of the other creditors ? Yes. The Official Receiver said this was not in dispute. Mr Samuel: I want to prove that this man has given me instructions all along. The Official Receiver said Mr Samuel need not go further back than the county court action. Mr Samual (to bankrupt): You will remem- ber. Debtor: You know how it was and this is waste of time. The Official Receiver suggested there should be a limit as to the period covered. The Registrar said he quite agreed as to the limit but Mr Samuel wanted to lead up. Mr Samuel: You remember I took counsel's opinion and you said "this matter must be thrashed out ? No. Did you not come to my office and ask me to engage Mr Arthur Hughes to appear for you ? Yes; I asked if it would not be better for you to have Mr Arthur Hughes. Did you not ask me to get Mr Hughes ? No, I said nothing. Did I not read over to you every document received from counsel ? No. I read it over to you in Welsh and there was a telegram received in reference to certain other points. Was not the affidavit read over to you sheet by sheet as it came from the clerk's? Not to me. Did I not read over to you the other affidavit ? Not to me (thumping the table). What were the words used about my taking the case on for nothing? I told you I had no money and that you knew it. I certainly admit you said you were a poor man but you had a horse and trap did you ever tell me it was not yours? You never asked me. Did you ever tell me it was not yours ? Yes I told you that it was my father-in-law's. Will you swear I sent you away that day of the court at Aberystwyth ? Yes, if I go to judgment in the next two minutes. Where ? In North parade. Stop you a minute-did I ever tell you to go away ? Yes, not to show myself at all—do you deny doing so ? Mr Samuel: You are asking me a question and if I went into the box I should be pleased to say something. Were you not in my office nearly every day pressing me to proceed with the appeal? You said you had a leading K.C., and I told you I had no money. Did I not tell you I could not advise you to go on unless you had counsel's opinion ? Not at all. And after reading over counsel's opinion I told you what to do ? No. Do you remember Mr Griffith Jones being there and saying that the case would not stand three minutes in London or at the Assizes ? Yes. Do you remember me reading the affidavit of Mr W P Owen to you ? No. Debtor was also asked about what took place with reference to the filing of the petition, but he disputed Mr Samuel's ver- sion of what happened. You had an interview with Mr Richard Edwards ? Yes, you sent me. Did I not blame you for going? No, I went at your request. Do you not remember me blaming you ? No nothing of the kind; skin and bone cannot stand a thing like this Do you remember telling me, when I asked you in North parade why you stated that j somebody else was responsible for the costs, I that as you were going to the wall you did not care who you pulled down with you ? Nothing I of the kind. j The Official Receiver: What did take place, Mr Morgan. Debtor He asked me why I bad mentioned those things to your clerk and I said I intended to speak the truith. Mr Samuel Did you tell anyone that the Official Receiver told you it would be an easy matter to pass the examination because of these statements ? I said a month to-day that it would be better nor worse. Registrar The debtor objected strongly to the adjournment and I took the full respon- sibility of doing so in order that you might be present. The Official Receiver: I never saw him until he came to the public examination. The Registrar: There is no use keeping it open any longer and the examination will be closed subject to the signing of the notes.
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ABERYSTWYTH WEATHER REPORT. Temperature. Max. Mm. Rain. Wind. SuE?Iime Feb. 18 44'0 34-0 0:02 S.B. Nil. >, 19 460 320 E. <3h. 20 m. >, 20 51'0 35-0 E.S.E. Sh.iOm. „ 21 o4 0 40'0 E.S.E. 9 hours. „ 22 52'0 4.0'0 S.E. 7 hours. „ 28 53'0 30'0 S.E. 5 hours. 2-I 52-0 30'0 S.E. (j'li. 30m. The record is taken each morning at 9 o'clock