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(Of. ST. ASAPH DIOCESAN CONFERENCE. annual conference of the Clergy and laity of I ?"' fi L ct =o of St. Asaph was held in the Town Hall, ¿ ¡,Ie, tT d 1 1 I). 1 1,1-rn'e.,]ay '? Wednesday last. re VIOUS, 10wever, 1 'Ie., J 1 '1''1.1"11 th d' "I, :t?n"g in the Town Hall, there was divine I ',t'l ,i;¡ thèPadsb Church, which was largely gl .I\d when the sermon was preached by the Rev. ??! J' Lil", ? 'car ? Mo?- ? h? been arranged ? \);g sermon should have been preached by the ?'? ¿v. ?- ?' Perowne, dean of Peterborough, i\.r} ;ú¡ ,t ?t the last moment, he sent to say he hI", al ?? be present, and the committee, hawing asked I" ra ,¡I' other gentlemen, finally selected the vicar, the rr..1o archdeacon Smart saying it would be an  "ri:.te leave takin- of the diocese. We believe I iifw{tt*v,| U. EMis strenuously opposed the arrange- ¡r:a,. "I ""?y yielded to the almost imperative 'n L JtVire ?'? P''e-ident of the conference. T'i proceedings of the conference proper, began f"- 'th 'I' HIl 'I' ,tii public meeting in the Town Hall, on Tuesday ",t!. '1 I 11 d r d t d "'en)" n. The hail wa? crowde d from door to door ?Jj.-n th'' proceeding* commmccd, there bemgawery \I, .priuklingof clergy,and also very many dissenting ?..? tr"m the town and district. The town also, ,'cf"f 1" d ??,,?.?c "f religious cree, was very weU re- ¡r;:riltnl, "? ?"? leading tradesmen with their wives 3j being present, and taking evident interest ¡¡II '['lh k ?'thc)'?"'<'edm.,s. £ he chair was ta en punctually j'i Ie 1" 1 I, ,11' os 7.:?, by the .lg It 1tev. Joseph Uuhes, Lord lii=hop "t the diocese, aud 8Upp,Jrtmg him on the .?i..f<n were the Yen. Archdeacon Ffoulkes, of 'v-y!; th; Ven. Archdeacon Smart. Northon ]:,„. ('.u.o.is H. W. El wards, H?h J.,nL ) W. Howell Evans, Oswestry; ?.Cashel, .1;>' "I' '1'1 'f 1 'h I> Hrr,tI': i>. ? Thomas, Meifod the Revs R. ?i? vi..?of Mold; G. H. McGill, Bangor; the ? ■_ ii?". 1L ?ecii H?ikes, !LP., Mr Stanley Leigh- ). L{ (' T. 'KY" St. John t M.i., Hon. G. T. Kenyon, Messrs St. John u, w. Trevor Parkins, U,ü. Roberts (local ?uv?Thoma.sCiayton, Capt. Mytton, &c. In tuc L.?y '? the hall we noticed among others, Mr W. II Hi idiom, Mr \V. H. Buddicom, Mr Thomas jiate, Mr W. Johnson, (Broughton Hall), Mr C. Morgan, Capt. Morgan, Mr J. Lewis. Mr 1. T. Kelly, Mr A. T. Keene, i while in the room were all the clergy of the burning parishes. A hvmn having been sung and prayer having been uifere'i by the Rev. it. Ellis, the Right Rev. President ..pciir'l the proceedings by saying it was a matter of thankfulness to him to see such a magnificent gathering there that evening. They had met to confer shunt to promote the advancement of the highest interests of the Church of Christ—{hear, hear)—and ne was anxious that that object should be kept steadily wew, regarding ihemselves as the servants of Christ b JU.KI to do His work. He invited all who cared for •he Church and for our Lord Jesus to come forward i i.elp them and to feel convinced there was work for them to do. Let it hem not be considered as a political — not as Conservative Liberals or Liberal Con- iatives, but as members of the Church of Christ, who knew nothing of political distinctions, but opened anus to all men whatever and whoever they might w. (Applause). There were some who forbad others t. for our Blessed Lord because they were wt followers of Him, but His reproof was a remark- and an example to His Church for all time— l'tio.-e who are not against us are with us." (Ap- r.nu- 'I The time was coming when ail sections w?u?t t s dr?wn nearer together, and when all .would be regarded a? tbe merecircum- and not the essential of Christianity. (Ap- Ven. Archdeacon bmart said that the subject iit discussion was "the best means of meeting the want-, of the tim.s." The ven. gentleman j,r .IVKW to ask what were the wants, as it would be to know how to meet wants which were iiiJ-unite a.:d unknown. There were many attempts a;, .ii: some there were who the state of the UIn was unfavorable to the growth of religion, and it was to be proved by the fact that the attend- aiK ■ of worship was small. But whatever t.i- re might be in the assertion with regard to England ut did not believe it was true with reference II Wail (wr the Welsh people were an essentially reks-'U* people. (Applause.) At the same time they inu-t a imit that even in Wales their religious »ervi .t were not so well attended as they wished them t, the question was what were the hindrances ;„i !i-t\er aud larger attendance at their places of v.-ir-i:i;i und to more elficient religious work V He j r a- !• d to enumerate some of these differences, such a- inliii- rence, poverty, ignorance, scepticism as in the higher and more intellectual circles ui societies, ;tud practical iuiidelity as the state in which was a great bulk 01 the lower orders who did not atteiji i-ciigi-jus worship. But, the one great obstacl j t.i tiie vv uii, and a national obstacle, was the evil of ii.u-<u|j< a;ic- —{applause, and some interruption at tiie hack of the hall.) The ven. gentleman went on to >:is-.rve that several remedies, such as the improve- ui-at •>! w.-rkiag-ni isrs dwellings, &c would be use- lI'd"" the evil of drunkenness was first removed. Mr Sr. John Chariton read a paper on the im- pr -vcuieiit ot ihe dwellings of the poor, and the duty lite (.'iiureh with regard to that question. He re- ferred to the state of the dwellings of the poor in large t.ia-ii-:—v.spiciaUy in L ondoil-alld in the country, aiiii to a i .-port of a committee—presided over by the Hake: ..i K ieinnor.d—on the subject some four years s.M. Me referred also to Sir Richard Cross' Act for the improvement of dwellings in large towns, the building of model cottages on the large estates of the district liy the late Marquis of Westminster, Mr Hughes, of Kinmel; Mr Cooke, Gwysaney; Mr L-iiliiii-oai, Mr Bankets, &c. then read a short and racy paper, in which lie nu-isted on a better class of dwelling for the poor, hut the first house in every village was always tiie parish church, where the poor had an equal share with tiie ricii. (Apjjiause.) There should be no ae^'L-cl in the maintenance of the fabric, or in the maintenance of religious services. But. where the ekivyman was prosy, the congregation would be apt t, be s leepy. (Applause and laughter.) Then the l'iL.e achool was the next building in importance, and he urged that the schools should be C:C3I1 and airy, IIGh as to give the children an idea <»f and a uste W clean and comfortable d welliugs. Then, the f iniiii, use was the next, in importance, bat the worst c!as< the set of houses let in connection with lArujs, which, having no permanent occupiers, had no ■>:ie iuterestc 1 in their maintenance in a clean and c-mi{urul):e state. Lastly, iha dwelt on the im- l'>:uuce of supplying all dwellings with a healthy and ii_Mihluiit supply of water. Ih" i! C. H. MeGili, in a quaint speech, pro- t-.<t«d against the pessimism and optimism of those thought that li whatever is is wrong," and those wim b lievc that whatever is is right." The right w^i:i the mean between those opinions, and in the oi>Uiict viekv of the wants of the age, and the gradual carrying out of those wants. The Church was not now, but was acting powerfully on the spirit condition of the people. lie believed in the ictii'ii o: man on man for good, and let them depend | "ii it toeie was conscience e.'en in the most degraded. ■vi.k'li by using the right means could be touched, and wii current of the man's future life could be directed into a better and lligher channel. •Ajiplau-e.) The nation, they might depend upon it, \la' without a conscience, leading it to the right, a.i m. long as this conscience acted as it did. the '«wi:.g of Cod would not be withheld from the Jiatioi,. rh- Hon. Geo. T. Iver.yon urged the importance of eo-opeiation between the clergy and laity in ui«tters which concerned either the management "•tiie church or church services. Great strides had .'•wt. made -in th:tt diiection, and by none to a greater <!<:■;lee than by the clergy, who now invited the co rioitioii iif the laity even in the conduct of chuich .tiiCt-s, und services were made popular by having a M m t" read the Lessons. (Applause and '•-nh'.er.; Mr Kenyon went on to complain that the l'kl';Y re too apt to be btiund up in the theological ¡1.lrt of their ILdes to join in the every-day life of the K'i.ir, sympathising with them in their sports and s^'iies, and also taking their part as intelligent citi/ci> ii; ti;e political topics of the day. If politics the ^c'.ence of good government, it was the duty intelligent citiz -ns to take an active and w part, in its discussion. (Applause, and  r,'m uk, of disapprobation.) -he K- v. n Howell Evans ured that the '■uieit should nut forget her own faithful people, and put tne Holy Communion should not be withheld ■>« t he i'.eoj iie, and those who did so did it at the "-■j "1 U h ?rfut responsibility. Let there also be f?il :t? ,t Church services, in which there should « earnest preaching, but short sermons, straight to ?'?)'"ttn. In that district, there was the bilingual ,in :tl"ll to other difficulties, which obligated •'•utMnal serviees. which should be held not only in .•'c churches, but in schools, mission rooms, and ''per t" meet the difficulty of obtaining men for thtse .services, special missionaries—(ap- J'iatise) and an extended diaconate, into which men ^•■ukl be ordained, who, on ordinary days, would vocations. In addition, all seas  '?- ;n?.!e free, fid in his heart of hearts he 17flly h,'j¡',wdtl,ai: the pew system w is an institution II, the Mr ?vans went on to insist on the im- l' ,r!I; ,.f indnidual work, and theinnuence for  d wid(':l might he exercised by one man on ? "tner. The clergyman perhaps ought to join in the -•"ttsenirjit "? ? people, ?utsoasnot<!e a barrier 'r S"?' ? ?'? he believed in more sociability between t¡.t different classes, in which the laity could do ,?iy ?.. much as any "f the clergy. T? i R'v. Rowland Ellis, in an eloquent speech, ?" ?' i?'port?nce of religion itself, as the bet tr. 'S t '■ ",cet th" wants of religion. He agreed with t^l^ ijfevious speakers Chat there were hindrances, but "1":1 Wa equal to every occasion, and able to meet  urevery position. Religion was not intended r ,r t!: ,se in good circumstances, and for that ???n h.' would impress upon them the ne:essity for >r"!1 -fa'th in religion as the best means to :reíorml the lowest. Ii ? ?'?Y ^Sghton, LP.,rcad the report of tf,?'H'.tte.? on Diocesan Missioners, of which he „?.. .th" Chahn:m. j?. '<' ?i?':t Hon. H. C. Raikes congratulated the IWKi )' ? m::glllfiœntmeetmg over which he was ?p?.,? He had had some hand in recommending .¡. I ",f' td d ;!i!erence should take pl?ce in Mold, and .??'cent meeting was a sumeient justincat?on v??-' "??-)dat!-)n which had ben made. A few ih t? ???" t?s Conference had before b?en held .J tt¡. ]' 't f'?)?? °n:' not half M!, but now it was j ;wdt, Ir');Jj ,Jnllr t, tl»orL.'>tno one say, there-j -re t. £ t* the Church ws losing ground in Wales. i.? ? ? '"eeting of that kind, when men of ?HcrP ?" "?smade different speeches, almost 111 t?'' "?" ?n t"«ched upon, and though he could c^i:- to all that had been said, he would j ?jt:?''??''ypo'em'c;d matter. There was one ) ?.?'. ? which had not been buched upon, i r<i a*' !rh&!M. the most important of aU, that of ? i, "? ?< ?'a. Education of aH sorts was vale- -b!. u t u:o'-ss there was in it an undercurrent of ''??1'?" there was M it an un d ercurrent of! i\;]i! ?'? fall short of its greatest value- ?j]. ?'? ?? coscluded by proposing in felicitous I ??/t' ?'-u?] v?t? ?f thanks to the Chairman, and I .c ? f tt 'r' n I r;/<irre dtothe severance of the Vicar's con- "^t ion ,'1 Ith the par?? ,regrettmg for his own part '??i-? '? ? the parish ioners that severance. ,I The ? ??*? bMe9y seconded the ?eMiution, ? '?h j??ied with enthusiasm. ?- j J,r¡t'( with ent t¡èlasm. r,' )* iu ^Pfy. said that for some months .1   ?"' '*r  tyith d  "'1' -'« il j-'f.. deep ,amdetv ivith .regar to Moid, I ti "Vli*6 1ears a?o 'he had appoicted tht, J. EJJ! !L' ?;!? ?h?? ?p }}a? done such esp<? ?nt service, and he w? t xceedingty anxioug for the future, that the work which had been so we'l betrun s!hl! ounld be continued. He was under a sense of &eep ° Wltre"ard to the ??er. and wSd soon have to render an account of his action. He prayed, therefore, and he hoped they would also pray, that the great head of the Church would so direct him as to inake a right appointment. l'heproceedings then terminated with the sinainc the Bishop anl the pronouncin of the benediction by the Bishop. THE QUESTION OF DISESTABLISHMENT. IMPORTANT LETTER FROM THE I PREMIER. On Wednesday morning, a second meeting was held in the Town Hall more in the nature of a conference and which was presided over by the Bishop. All those who attended on the previous evening were present, and in addition we noticed among th[)e present Lord Harlech. Mr P. P. Pennant ('1 Cooke, the Hev. D. Howell. Wrexham Dr. Edward Wilhams, Wrexham P. Ll. Fletcher, Nerquis O. S. Wynne, Ruab-on and several others, including about 200 clergymen and delegates. The principal stibiect under discussion was 4t Disestablishment The Duty of the Church with regard to it," and before it was opened the Bishoi, announced that a letter had been received by him from the Premier. Canon Wynne Edwards then read the letter which was as follows Hawarden Ca tle, Oct. 19,18SI. MY DEAK LORB BISHOP,-When I undertook to con- + tri?U.utJe a letter (in defauit of personal attendance) towards the work ot the Diocesan Conference, I did not anticipate the autumnal controversy in which tne political world is now engaged. And I fear that any attempt I now make to redeem a pledge given under other circumstances will he poor and inadequate, even in comparison with what it migut otherwise have been from the cares and distractions which that controversy daily brings upon me. At the same titnt- I had not even at the outset any ambitious ulan betore me, I did not prOjPse to enter on the wide tield of arsumeiu respecting the disestablishment of the Church tDu vast for my avail ible time, too polemical for one who has already more than enough of polemical matters on his hanils (Ataugh.) WiUiteome; Ought i to come Must it c.)mp ? is it near, or is it somewhat distant, or i Kienintely remote All these are questions of intere-t which I could not touch wih advantage, unless it he at a single poi .t. Whether disestablishment would be disastrous or not, I think it clear that there is only one way in which it might come to be disgraceful. That one way pa> ts into two. Disestablishment would be dis"race- ful it it were due to the neglect, indifference, or deadness of the Church (app.au .u)—but this is a contingency happily, so improbable tha' for present purposes it may ba dismissed without discussion. (Renewed .'pplaus^.) It might also be disgraceful were it to arrive as a consequence of dissensions among the members of the Church. (Hear hear.) Thi-, as it appears to in;, would be an unworthv termination of a controversy which ought to be sett ed upon far higher grounds. (Applause.) An 1 the particular duty of Ciurchrnf-n with regard to disestablishment, which I shall try in a few words to set forth, is the duty of taking care that dissensions from within hallnut brinif the Establishment to its end. (Applause.) The ltst half century has be n the period of *h? most active re igious life known to the reformed Church of Eng- Itnd. It has alsohen the period of the sliarpest intern ti discord. TWlt dis.;or;¡ has of lute been materially dela\e 1 not, I balieve, through the us,- of mere narcotics, not bd cause the pulse beats less vigorously in her v. ins, but through the prevalence in various quarters of wise counsels or. in other words, the application to our ecelesi,ist,cal atf-urs of that common sense by which we desire that our secular affairs :sh,.uld always be governed. (Appltuse.) What I wish now to ;:r„-e is this. In the f set tint such discord has prt-vaiied there is not, nay even were it to ris- again into exasperation, tnere ought not to be ground for religious despondency or dismay. It is L-i be expected in all things human for their habilimant. And th-re were p trcicular reas ins why it was to be anticipated tii(I to be patiently borne with in the Church of England. We have" still to look if in the face ai an incident of ouriii-tir-v, though it m ty lie less heavily upon us than in some former ye irs iis a present emba.rassment. It is under all cit-caiii- st inces a cause of p iin and a source of danger, but not always a demonstrative proof of weakness. Oa the con- trary, whenprofuundy felt and yet b Prile, so to speak without breach of continuity, it may be a test and a proof of-trength. Applause ) in every living organism in every tnstitut on or system, its health will depend uo -n the equilibrium of the elements out of which it is com- posed iiu; the maintenance of this eqliiiibriuin is more easy whea the system is uniform and sirnole and its tendencies determinate and clexr more difficult when it is many sided an I when it aims at binding together and at directing towards a c iiamon end. tendencies which a-e naturally divergent, and which more commonly find for themselves houle, u,lt aether severed. Let me borrow an illustration from the world of politics, discord is com- paratively rare or slight in a political c'.ub, because a politcal cluo is an institution formed to maintain some scheme of opinion current at the time, and familianv apprehended ihou^h it.- tests be but rough, hy those who join in it. But the Hoj-e of Parliament in which these rival systems have t > dwell together, and to work them- selves out into c nimon results, are and must be the homes of frequent and seri ms contention. In the ltith century the Continental churches of the W st. north of the Alps and Pyrenees, were for the most part broken into rival bodies fiercely coiteiidin with one another, but within themselves representing respectively one of the tw. grea" tendencies of the period To these tendencies I will not give a thejtogica! name, but will call them those of the R?formttion an counter Ue ormation respectively. From the time of the Cou?cit of Trent and of Loyola, the Church of Koine represented more strictly than it had done before the tendencies of c .unter Reforma- tion. The Reformed Church had partly in the letter, and rnoie in the spirit broken with the previous constitu- tion of the Church as well as with the d jgma. Their con- fession s were indeed comp'ex. but were tritned upon a b:;sis which their members felt or at least th iu/ht they understood. Tiiey had all become in different degrees less like legislatures and more like clubs; that is to say, in the p-.int to which I refer. A considerable tim J eialisoil accordingly before the Latin Church was aga;n seriouslv troubled with theological quarrels within its ow domain S) al-o the ilrotestaiit Cnurcli-s on the Continent under- went far less trouble from internal dissensions than did the Church of England. In tiie 8c .ndinavian countries we may almost say such trouble h is been unknown. The reason is, I apprehend, that in each case the hostile elements hail been in the main suppressed or expelled by the struggle of I th • ltjth c ntury. Within this island it was not so. Both in England and in Scotl aid the effort was not only ml(le, but ten iciously persisted in, to maintain the external unity of the nation in a common religious pr-fessi tn. I may here drop th-s cise of Scotland, which has formed a solution of its own. It is enough to spe .k of the case of England. It presents a result at first sight paradoxical in this respect, that the chain which am ing therefortned communities had least broken with tradition, and most maintained the frame- work of the ancient authority, was the most perplexed and indeed convulsed with controversies and with schisms. When the matt r is examined t'le cause is not f.rf to seek. Weingaiten, a. German writer, lays down the proposition that the Reformation, as a religious movement took its shape in Kngland not in the Kith cen- tury but in the 17th. The liith century ma le the Church and nation independent, and est »bl shed the external framework of an ecclesiastical po'ity. Bat it seems diffi- cult ta show that tlu religion now prof ssed its nitti.,nzil in England took its rise at th it epoch otherwise than as a legil and n 1ti .n 11 ¡p;,IL,;sio:¡, It seems plain that the great bulk of those banted under Mary were Puritans Under Elizabeth we hive to look, 1 believe (with very rare and remarkable exception ■), among Puri ans or among K -cu-,ai.tt. fur the exhibi ion of ::n active and definite reli- gious 1'fe. A strong pressure from without bound togthr a heterogeneous mass. in the region of theology I apprehend that what is termed Angli-anisni, began with Hooker, an authority still so higti among us that none disown him, aud a writer whoso work is said by Walton to have attracted the lauda- tory admiration of the reigning Pope. But the body to which Hooker belonged also contained Cart wright, and maiuta ned too, men of the Millenary Petiti 'n. These in- ternal differences ripeijeil "fer a time intt)c.),nvuliiozi tyranny, and revolution. I cannot severely blame those who overset- Kj'ise^pacy for their oversetting it nor 'hose who brought it back for their b inging it b?ck. The con- tending elements c?uld not iive together in the same dwel- ling upon tolerable te! ms. Every effort was m <di' to d,vis, schemes of comprehension and every effort faile 1. I It was b -ter. 1 suppose, that the rival partisans should part than they should carry th- cuntry onward from one revolution to another. They parted in Scotland hy casting out Epise picy at the revolution They parted i i England, legally at the Restoration, aud m irailv when a series of subsequent experiences hii shown th -it the sys:ein then established by ;aw was the only ojo -In which the bulk of the nation c >u!d be content to alHd, (Applause.) But what was tie operation thus effected? It was a drastic process, but a process far L s'; drastic than those of the six eenth century, on the one side or the other. It Is far n£.bIed the' 'hurch of England to fnhil the condi- ti?m of a corporat" life and unity th?t it has now been maintained during t'v? cc"turi< s and a qu.?t"r. with- out either the unm'tigtted du disin or the ? g?)ni(-s of c,)n-1 vuNion, which h:n! :u.n km! the "n'vious experience and ?ith this general r"suIt. t!i?t at the pivs.-nt hour th'* h''p?s of the Church '? Engl »t«d are higher a .d :ore bunyantt!nn per haps they h .ve ever b.;en. (Applause.) It has been vtiry far from in heroIc 1¡¡4or'. o only defect, but scandal li?L? abounded. These things, however, are beside the present purpose, which aims at pointing out wiu'U uniformity was finally b ought by 1 >w into the Church of EnglamC. Still much room for diversity w:ts left -ro >tn enough to i-ivit polemical cri icistn, but perhap3 not more thin, on the one band the inestimable value of the principle of liberty required, or th in, oil the other hand, the teaching to the Church could without vital injury I.I'OW. She is sia working out her system by experience, but still not with .ut this not that lh. strife of parties, although s .(t"ued of late, is still somewhat shurp within her When it is said that the Church is comprehensive, the true meanirg fe.-ms to be that her history, which lias, of course, determined h-. r character, has tended to comprise within her limits a greater diversity of views than hive usually brought together. What may he ca'!eJ. the Purit .nical element, ejected at the Rest -ration, began slowly to reassert itself in the latter half of the iSth century, an I is now admit ed to have brought ah-iut a great revival ofreligioui 1 fe in the English Church (Applause.) A form of thought to which the name of Broad may be applied seems tL) have been more than t derated in some conspicuous instances by Laud, and acquired some s-iiidity, in the universities at least, after the Restoration. On the other hand, as regards the Rome- wards (so t.) t-rm it) of the Chuich of England there is some evid nee (though not free from su,picion) in the carious lif of L idy Willi inn to sh jw that the chief Eng- lish bishops of th it era rook a very mitigated view of their doctrinal differences from the Church of Rome and Bari Ion, the ambassador of I. iuis XIV., writes to his court in the reign of James II., that the Anglican preiat s were preferable to the Jansenist bishops pf the Roman Communion. I will not attempt to bring Iiese illustrations (in which I am relying upon memory )riv) down to the present day. Enough, I think, has been said to show tlht the Church of England has be n a'l a'ong peculiarly liable, on the one side and on the other, both t attack an 1 to defection, and th it the orot).ible cause is to b3 found in the de .ree in which, whether for worldly or for religious reasons, it was attempted in her case to com- bine divergent elements within her borders. If there be any truth in this rough and very incomplete hist rica! sketch, the c.)ixclazi-)tis to be drawn from it, as regards my present purpose, are clear and simole. For it at once appears that the great linxim in csit)ti4tii car,tas which is so necessary to temper all religious controversies, o;i ht to appiy w.th a tenfold force to the cou met of mem- bers of the Church of England in lespect to differences among themselves. T' ought of course in tha first place to remember that tht-.r ri.t to differ is limite I by the laws of she system to wh ch they l>e!ong. But within that limit, slioaid they not also eicli of them recollect that his antagonist has something to saythat the Reform i ion and the counter-reforma'ion tendencies were iu the order o: Providence placed here in a closer juxta^o-ition than anywhere else in the Christian wtirld that a course of destiny so peculiar appears to indicate on the part or the Supreme Orderer a peculiar purpose that not only no religious but no considerate or prudent man, should run the risk of interfering with su--h a purple tint the great charity which is a boundeu duty everywhere in these mat- tersshouU here be accompanied and upheld by two ever- striving handmaidens, a great reve cnee and a great patience; that inst-ad of the b?terness, I might almost eay savagery, which has t 'o often characterised our inward contentions, they ought on every ground of history and reas- on to be peculiarly marked by m -deration, kindness, and re- serve-(api)lause)- I iy thinking no evil, by hoping all things, by kindly and favourable interpretations. (Applause.) Aud if the demand thus made upon the evangelical resources of human nature teem to be over large iii it not warranted, is it not eminently rational, at a time when on the one t hand the deepest and widest questions of beiief in a I Saviour, in a Deity, and in a moral law, are everywhere coming to issue on a -cile hitherto without ex»mple and tPthnJ on ifte hand, this great organisation, within I which our lot has been cast. is from day to day exhibiting I here and beyond the seas, not only a remarkable material extension, but a growing vigour of inward life, and an in- creasing abundance in every work of mercy, of benevolence, and of true civilisation. (Applause.) In concluding these remarks I will only say that I have in writing them endeavoured ti place myself at a point of Mewwnictns imoersonal and that I have not knowingly woundedthesusceptibiliti-s orassailed the opinions of anyone who may fdld them. (Loud appiause).-l remain, with great respec, my de?r Lord Bishop, yours most faithfully, W. E. GLADsro\E The Right U-V. the Lord Bishop of St. Asaph. Mr Pennant reM AN able PAPER on the history of the Church, claiming that as an organisation it was antecedent to the State, and apart from it. It had also a continuity which the State had not, anI was for a long period of history the greater p)wer in the country. Mr Pennant was followed by the Rv. Canon F. (Jashel, Rev. J. H. R<?ece, Rev. W. D Davies, Llangadwaladr Rev..E Elwarda, Ruabon Rev. I. V. Barstow. Oswestry; Rev. D. Phillips Lewis, •Llandnmo Rev. Canon D. R. Thomas, Meifod Mr laylor, Oswestry (working man) the Rev. D. Howell, Wrexham. Th Rv. D. Howell sai l I take it, my Lord, that t'le duty of churchmen in regard to disestablishment will be determined mainly by the light in which dis- establishment itself is regarded. There are some churchmen who only re"an1 disestablishment as pos. sihle, but not probable. They have been familiar with the cry of 4 the Church in danger' for many and many a year but they see the Church stronger in herself, and stronger in her hold on the affections of the people now, than at any previous period in her history during the last two hundred and fifty years, and they therefore regard such discussions as the pre- sent with impatience, an 1 as likely to do more harm than good. Others there are who regard disestablish- ment as not only possible but probible. They see the multitude of forces arraved again the Church. Thev see the income of the Liberation Society, more than double that of the Church Defence Society. They see no small amount of apathy on the part of not a few of the clergy, who repose calmly on the pillow of their supposed vested interests. They also see the rapid strides of Dein icracy and they observe with alarm that politics are fast becoming the religion of vast numbers of those who practic.i'iy wield the political power of this country. And there is also the prevalence of scepticism, of agnosticism, and of a hundred oilier isins. which are of necessity hostile to an institution of which creeds and dogmas constitute the very backbone. L toking at all these things, there are many churchmen who regard disestablishment as not only possible, but probable. Others again regard di-establishment as not only possible and probable, but as certain and inevitable. They see our unhappy divisions, and they remind us of the fate of the house divided against itself. They think that the political exigencies of the Liberal party will soon deroan i dis- establishment, whether the leaders of that party like it or not. They quote certain passages from English history, where the popular party was steered from the stern, and, SJ to speak, led by the tail. They remind you that in politics necessity knows no law, and that self-preservation is the first instinct of a political party. And they will even go further and say, that, in the light of the revived life of the Church, the spirituality of her ini.ss on. and the danger of being subject to the legislation of a Parliament in which .r ew", Turks,infUel-, :],J heretics may soon have a voice, they are ineline It.) think that disestablishment is de- sireabie. We may remind them that it is 4 better to bear the iils we have than those we know not of,' and that all changes are not for the better. But their faith and enthusiasm blind them toe >n sequences which it is hardly possible to exaggerate, and which it is impossible fully to foiesee. Now. my L in whatever light churchmen may regard di-establish- mcnt, I ve itare to think that the agitation of this subject sugge-ts to us certain duties, which time win only allow me just to mention. Our first duty in regard to disestablishment I take to be this—it is not to fear it. In saying this, don't suppose that I think lightly of it. God forbid Bvit i do think that many churchmen are far too ready to get into a panic about it. as if disestablishment would be the ruin and very end of the Church. Nothing of the kind. Establish- ment is a mere political accident, the work of man and what man has done he can undo. But no sacrile- gious hand of man can touch the ark of God's truth. Despoil the Church of her endowments if you will, and what then ? Why, don't we know that truth in poverty conquered the world. My Lord, the Church has worse things to fear than poverty. In the Word of God I tind the Church warned against covetous- ness, lukewannness, error, and against trusting in the 'arm of flesh,' but never against pivertv. If the worst comes to the worst, my Lord, d let us be afraid of it. Why. think of what the Free Church of Scotlan 1 has done in less than fifty years. Think of what the Roman Church has done since the passing of the Catholic Emancipation Act. Think of whit the Ca'.viiiutic Methodists of Wales have done in less than three quarters of a century. Tnink of what our own Chueh has done, and is now doing, in the United states of America, in all our colonies, and even in un- happy I:eland. And IHll we who have behind us the larger portion of the wealth, the barning, an the piety ?f the Eogiish nation became hy?te ical because m n threaten to reduce us to thecondiionc'fou-Lo.d's Apostles when they undertook the conversion of the world ? Shame upon us if we do Another duty I take to be this-it is to have more faith in our mi-sion, and to lay greater stress o ) the spiritual, and less on the political cl lims of the Cnurch. If we believe, as we dc believe, that our Oiiu.ou, aiiti at from apostolic days, has oeen the spiritual mother of the people of this country, and that both in her d ct>ines and discipline she is most in harmony with the Word of if we believe that she is at the same i me the most Sriptural and the most catholic of Church -s, it is a shame to us if we fear and tremble because men shake their fists at us. No, no, my Lord, let us grasp oar spiritual weapons the tighter—truth, ch irity, self-sacrifiee, faith in God, and love to man —and we shall then find that even our trials wiil be to in dis,*u:se.' Another duty suggested by this disestablishment agi- tation I take to be this-i i., to regard it as a eail to greater activity, and liberality, so as to make the Church in a sense indispensable to the nation. There have been times when I have thought if ths hi" establishment would but drive some churchmen to make full proof of their resources ana to do as much for their church a Nonconformists and Roman Catholics do for theirs, it woul 1, to say the least of it, not be an uninixe 1 evil. Why, my Lord, I have in my own parish a dissenting tradesman, who not only contributed foOO towards the erection of his own chapel, but who contributes year towards the support of his own cause in the town. Surely the time is come when churchmen should depend less on the contents of dead men's pockets, and thrust their hands deeper into their own. Surely the time is come when we should dwell not quite so boastfully oa what we have done in the build in; and restora- tion of churches, scho and parsonages during the last fifty years, as if others had not done as much, without our endowments, with not half of our wealth, and not a tithe of our •social influence. From the bottom of my heart do I thank Go 1 for what has been done but don't let us swagger as if all the activity and liberality his been on our side. And surety this disestablishment agitati in is a call to Church reform. It is no reproach to the Church that machinery which ha; been at work for so many centuries sh sho w signs of wear and tear; and I am sure we shall all agree that a timely and judicious reform is the best conservati Surely, my Lord, we shall all agree that our Church admits, not in her spiritual constitution, but in matters of organisation and administration, of no incoiisid.rable improvement. Surely our sy-t-m of p iU-oua;e needs some readjustment. Surely our in.i.ie of ele.-ling our bishops might be male b.-tter to express the living voice of the Church. Surely the lights of the laity" practically disestablish by the Church Rate Abolition Act, might he mire clea-ly define' and m ire firmly established. And will anyone tell m" that onr system of clerical discipline is not capable of improvement, so that it shall no longer be necessary for a bishop to "pend one-fourth of a year's income, as was not long ago the case in a neighbouring diocese, in removing a notoriously erring clergyman? And wiil anyone tell me that a system under which it is possible for a patron to put a round man in a square hole, and to impose an inefficient or unacceptable pastor fur life on a helples, parish, is not capable of soma improvement? But, my Lord, my time is exhausted, or I have liked to mention some other du'ies suggested by this disestab;Uhment agitation, such as that of closing our own rail ks and of de ding kindly and {"1-1.. ar¡ngly w!th each other's differences. And last, but cercaiid. not least, there is the duty of carrying on this controversy in the spirit of an ungrudging aud unvarying Christian charity. If we My bitter things of orhers because others may say bitter tilings of us, what are we better th:11 they? No. no. tnv brethren, if this controversy is to be carried on, let it be carried on in spirit of our Master, C irist, of whom it is said that" when He was reviled He revi.ed not again, when He suffered He threatened not, but committed Himself to Him that judgeth righteously." The second meeting of the Conference took place at 3 o'clock, the Bishop presiding, when the first business ivas the APPOINTMENT OF EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. Captain Mytton proposed the reappointment of the Executive Committee, saying they were all satisfied with the work which had been done. The success which had attended that conference was a proof that the committee had done its work well. He proposed the appointment of the committee, which was as fo!lows-Presidezit The Right Rev. the Lord Bishop of the Diocese Committee The Ven. Archdeacon Ffoulkes, the Ven. Archdeacon Smart, the Rev. Canon R. Wynne Edwards, the Rev. Rowland Ellis, the R v. Canon W. Howell Evans, the Rev. J. E. Hill, the Rev. Canon Hugh Jones, the Rev D. P. Lewis, the Rev. G. H. McGill, the Rev. Canon W. Richardson, the Rev. Canon D. R. Thomas, Mr P. P. Pennant, Mr A. E. Tumour, M.D., Mr E. Williams, M.D., Mr O. S. Wynne, the Right Hon. the Earl of Pcwis, the Right H..n. Lord Harlech, the Right Hon. H. Cecil Raikes, M.P., Sir W. W. Wynn, Bart., M.P., Mr J. Scott Bankes, Mr St. John Charlton, Mr T. Clayton, Mr P. B. Davies Cooke, Mr B. T. Grffiith Po cawen, Mr R. E. Jones, Mr Stanley Leigliton, M.P., Mr J. Lewis, Mr W. Trevor Parkins, Mr H. R. Sind. I bach Local S-cretary Mr Hugh Goodman Roberts, Mold. He also suggested the name of the Rev. D. Howell, vicar of Wrexha-w, whose forcible address that morning had warmed the hearts of every man and woman who heard it. (Applause). The Rev. Ll. Wynne.Jone-, seconded the proposal. The Rev. Mr Jones, vicar of Glyn, thought that the Welsh element should be more largely repre. sented on the committee, and he proposed that the Rev. D. Evans, vicar- of Abergele, should be added to the list. A rev. gentleman, whose name we could not learn, seconded the proposal, which was supported by Mr Pennant, and the resolution with the additions pro. posed was then unanimously agreed to. The Ven. Archdeacon Ffoulkes prposed the appoint- ment of a central council, which was proposed to con. sist of Messrs. H. C. Raikes, P. P. Pennant, W. Trevor Parkins, the Rev. Canon W. Howell Evans, G. H. McGill, and R. W. Edwards. This was seconded by Dr. E J. Williams, of Wrexham, and was agreed to. PROPOSED PCRITY SOCIETY. Tue itev. n. ivns proposed that the Conference request the Bishop to consider the desirability of forming a Purity Society, which the nature of the word imp!ies. This was seconded by Mr Clayton and agreed to. TEMPERANCE COMMITTEE. The Ven. Archdeacon Smart proposed the appdint. I ment of a Temperance Committee, which the Bishop be requested to nominate, and also suggested that the several branches of Church of England Societies should be affiliated with the Diocesan Society. This was seconded by the Rev. Canon Howell Evans and agreed to. I FIXASCE COMMITTEE. The Rev. Howell Evans proposed the appointment of a Finance Committee or a sub-committee, which should report to the next Conference as to the state of finances, then to be further discussed. The seconder of the proposal, referred to the proposed formation of a hostel at Bangor for those young men of the Church of England who entered the North Wales College there. PARLIAMENTARY COMMITTEE. ?lf U. S. Wynne proposed the appointment of a Parliamentary Committee to watch those Bi!!? intro- duc=J to Parliament which affected in any '%vay the i interests of the Church of Ea?and. He liropozed ? that it should be composed of six members, which w? I seconded by Capt. Mytton and agreed to. I DIOCESAN MISS ION ER. I Mr Pennant proposed the adoption of the report which had been read the previous evening by Mr S. Leighton, M.P., which suggested the appointment of ¡ mi,sioner for the diocese, who should devote his whole time to the work, and receive a salary of not less than £ 255 a vear.-Archdeacon Ffoulkes seconded the proposition.—Tha Rev. Mr Edwards, Ruabon, suggested that the Canons of St. Asaph should be the missioners, and the Minor Canons their lieutenants, a I suggestion that was received with much applause, and s-comle l by Mr Morgan Owen. of Rhyl.—Tne sug- W.Li opuuied by'-Nlr Pennint Arelideac,) n I gestion was opposed by Mr Pennant, Archdeacon Fioulkes, Captain Mytton, Revs. Mr Hutchins, Broughton Hall; Taylor, of Oswestry, and Canon Hugh Jones, who said it was impracticable. At last it -.raR withdrawn, and the motion of Mr Pennant was agreed to unanimously. L\Y EVANGELISM. the Rev. T. E. Jones read a paper by Mr P.-tikes- who had left for London—on lay evangelisation, which was followed by another paper by the Rev. S. E. Gladstone, after which a discussion was continued by the Rev. L1. Wynne Jones, Mr T. Clayton, Bryn- mally the President, who said he had always been in favor of the movement in question; Archdeacon Ff,ulkes, who spoke on Jay training for the work. He prop >ed that it be an instruction to the General Committee to correspond with the Church Defence Society withaview (if extending its operations in Wales, which was seconded by Captain Griifith- Boscawen and agreed to. I A WELSH CHURCH PRESS FUND. I the lvev. 11. K. ihomas called the attention of the conference to this question, saying that tha 14 Haul" had b:en purchased, and it was proposed to bring it out under new management at the beginning of the new year. The old committee had been the Arch. deacon of St. Asaph, the Rev. W. Glanffr.vd Thomas and himself.—Mr Pennant proposed the re-appoint- ment of the committee, which was seconded by Mr Wynne, and agreed to. Captain Griifith-Bo^cawen then proposed a vote of thanks to the Bishop for presidii-ig.Alr. C. P. Mor- gall seconded the resolution, which was carried with enthusiasm.—The Bishop replied.—Mr Parkins moved a vote of thanks for the hospitality which ha.d been displayed in Mold, and for the work done by the local secretary and local committee.—This was seconded by Mr Clayton and passed.—The Rev. Howell Evans, proposed, and Mr Pennant seconded a vote of thanks to the general secretary, Mr Trevor Parkins, which was responded to by that gentleman, aud the meeting closed with the Benediction.

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