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[ The Clwyd and Elwy Fishing Association. Unfounded Charges by Mr Joyce. Interesting Correspondence. AT the last meeting of the Denbighshire County Council, a letter was read from Mr Joyce, of Denbigh, criticising the rules of the new Fishery Association formed some time ago by Col. West. ¡ A discussion took place, during whidh Colonel West protested against the Council discussing the communication, as they had no authority- over the association, and had nothing to do with it. Ultimately, on the motion of Mr J. W. | mlev, seconded by Mr A. O. Evans, the con- side.ration of the letter was referred, to the Con- I servacy Board'. J Mr Joyce's Letter to thei Conservancy Board. | -M'r Joyce's letter was as follows — | Sir,—About 18 months ago, I had the honour | of being 'elected by the Denbighshire County Council a member of the Clwyd and Elwy Con- servancy Board, a post I am proud of, as I have | always taken the greatest interest and delight in angling, and' have taken a salmon licence for a great number of years. Now an association has come to the scene, promoted; chiefly by Cols. West and Howard!, t which has wrought incalculable evil and hard- 'I'. which has wroug:ht inca1culaMe evil and harid'- ship on anglers of the tradesmen, farmer, visÜor to the neighbourhood', shop assistant, and "I' workingman type, by practically debarring them by excessive ciharges, from the healthy and manly ¡ exercise during the summer months. 'I The rules are full of grotesque ideas, viz., II. seven days' notice in writing being required by the association before a person may-or may not—procure a permit, the charges for which I are for trout, igs 6d; and for salmon, 40s, which is quite outrageous, particularly as up to r now there is not a single salmon in either the Clwyd or Elwy. Rule 14 says "No bait omer than artificial fly may be used before the 1st of July." The very bait which destroys thou- sands of salmon fry during April and May, whereas the minnow will only attract the at- t tention of more mature fish such as are seldom, I if ever, taken by the fly. Rule II says: "No wading allowed' lin the Clwyd," whereas by wading across the stream occasionally you save breaking the farmer's hedges, and damaging his standing crops-a thing I have always avoided. w 1 11 1 Notwithstanodiing this great rise from 4s 6d for trout and £ 1 for salmon, as in. previous years, long stretches are now reserved, such for instance as that part of the river Elwy from Pont-y-Ddol to the junction of the Aled, a dis- tance of about 3% miles, by Mr Hughes, of Kanmel. It is usual that in paying money that you receive, or expect, an equivalent. But in ¡ this case, not a single fish has been put in by way of re-stocking or very little, if any, done by way of clearing the banks, and especially the bed, of the river Clwyd of the weeds that have accumulated to such an extent during the last few years. Very much more might be said were the case in abler hands, and I trust the Council will t make its voice heard in the matter. But as my humble protest against what I consider an in- justice, I beg the Council will accept my resig- nation from the Board oif Conservators. Colonel West's Reply. We have since received the following "repl?" f .,rom, Coloi-l,l Cor??wallis West: SIR,-For some reason impossible to explain, the Chairman of the Denbighshire County Council allowed a. letter from Mr Joyce, of Den- bigh, to be read, complaining of the rules of the association, although neither the County Council nor the Conservancy Board have any- thing whatever to do with these rules. I de- clined at our last County Council meeting to enter into the inaccurate assertions made by Mr Joyce in his letter, as I considered, and still consider, that we, as a Council, had no power nor right to discuss and criticise the rules of a private fishing association. But, sir, wiui your ,VerMiss,ion, I will d .-your columis, in so order that Mr Joyce may be satisfied. 1. The association was started solely by me, Colonel Howard having no voice in the matter, though he kindly consented, when it was form- ed, to serve on the committee, and 'gave up a large part of his fishery to the association, as other fishing owners have done in the most dis- interested manner. 2. Instead of the charges made for fishing being high, they are less than any that I know of in Wales or elsewhere, looking to the length of water now thrown open to ticket-holdlers. 3. The rule as to season tickets' is absolutely necessary in order to prevent a season ticket being inadvertently given to a poacher or person of bad character. 4. The charges for fishing are not as stated by Mr Joyce. They are 15s for the season for trout, and Zi for salmon. Conservancy charges we have nothing to do with, and if he con- siders them too high, he had better, as a con- servator, try and get them reduced. 5. The rivers have never been fuller of salmon than they have been this season, as Mr Joyce ought to have known even on Au'gust 6th (the date of his letter), when he said there were none. 6. "Wading" in small rivers like the Clwyd and Elwy ruins the fishing, and' spoils every- one's sport except the wader's. The associa- tion has special rules against dama-in,- crops, fences, etc., and the penalties are severe. 7. "Minnow" fishing is disastrous to the fly- C, fisher, besides being unsportsmanlike. Many small fish which ought to. be returned to the water are pricked so severely by the treble hooks of a "minnow" bait as to die before they can be extricated. The. bailiffs both of the conservancy and of the association carefully ex- amine an'glers' baskets to see that no, samlets or undersized1 trout are taken; and the netsmen at the mouth of the Clwyd declare that more young salmon have been seen this- season in the tidal waters than usual owing to this prac- tice. 8. Mr Hughes, of Kinmel, never in past years opened his water to the public, but like all other riparian owners, he has now most gener- ously given over to the association long and valuable stretches of water. 9. The clearing of the banks of many miles of river could not be done in a day, as Mr Joyce appears to imagine. We have, however, cleared some miles of the banks where desirable, and we are steadily progressing in this necessary work. Five hundred two-year-old; trout and five thousand yearlings will be. turned out this win- ter and the spring of 1904. As to "debarring" tradesmen and "farmers," visitors, etc., from' the "healthy and manly ex- ercise" of angling, I am inclined to think M> Joyce must be dreaming when he makes this assertion, for, on the contrary, the association enables those who wish to fish to have the run of 24 miles of the river Clwyd, and many miles of the Elwy; a man formerly might pay for a conservancy licence, without an"- certainty that he could get a day's fishing! In a case I know of, this actually occurred, and the would-be angler got no redress. No, sir, the association, is not the mischievous body Mr Joyce foolishly supposes it to be. Both the? legitimate anglers of this district, as well as the visitors, who will be attracted to it by the certainty of a day's sport, will soon realise what can be achieved by systematically preserving and re-stocking I these hitherto neglected rivers and judging by the great success of the first year of our exist- ence I anticipate-under the able management of Mr Harold Stock-a very bright future for this fishery, and I am confident Mr Joyce's sinister predictions are never likely to be ful- filled.—Yours etc., WM. CORNWALLIS WEST. Chairman Clwyd and Elwy Fishery Asso. Nov. 9th, 1903.

♦ Nomination of Welsh Sheriffs. THE ancient ceremony of nominating the sher- iffs of the counties of England and Wales (ex- cepting the duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster) took place on Thursday in the Court of the Lord Chief Justice. The Chancellor of the Ex- chequer (Mr Austen Chamberlain) presigle,d, and was assisted by the Lord Chief Justice and Justices Grantham, Kennedy, 'Darling, and Bucknill. The King's Remembrancer 0, (Lord Dunboyne) read over the names, and the busi- ness was despatched with unusual speed, owing to the prompt decisions of the President as to the excuses put before the court. Of the three names placed in nomination) the first is gener- ally chosen or "pricked" by the King. The following are the nominations for North Wales Carnarvonshire 1, Lieut.-Colonel Llewelyn England Sydney Parry, of Stain'sford House, Dorchester; 2, John Issard Davies, o.f Llys Meirion, Carnarvon, Esq. 3, Francis John Lloyd Priestley, of Heneglwys, Llangefni, Esq. (1.r Priestley asked to be excused, ;but was placed third! on the list). Denbighshire: 1, Charles Salisbury Main- waring, of Bwlchybeudy,Cerrigydruidion, Esq.; 2, Robert David Roberts, of Bronygraig, Con- way, Esq. 3, Edward Andrew Ffaulkes, of Errdveatt, Denbigh, Esq. Flintshire: 1, Horace- Mayhew, Broughton Hall, Esq.; 2, William John Patrickson Storey, Preswylfa, Rhyl, Esq.; 3, James Williams, Lin- coln College, Oxford, Esq., D.C.L., LL.D. Merionethshire: I, Thomas Edwards, Blaen- au, 'D,ol, ,,ell?ey, Esq. 2, George Henry Ellis, Pen mount, Festiniog, Esq. 3, Gaptairu Robert o Atheiston,e Pryse, Aberllepenian, Cords. Montgomeryshire: 1, Edward Arthur Field Whittel Herbart, Upper II elm si ey Hall, York, Esq. 2, Thomas Pryoe, Pentreheylin, Esq.; 3, Daniel Winitringham Stable, Plas Llwyn Owen, Esq. Anglesey: I, William Glynne Massey, of Cornelyn, Beaumaris, Esq. 2, J. Richard Jones, of Bron Me,nai, Dwyran, Anglesey, and; New- boirough, Canfield Gardens, N.W., Esq. 3, Eric James Waiter Platt of Bryn-y-Ni,el, Esq. (Mr Piatt asked to be excused on the ground of health, and was ordered to be placed third on the list).

The Tramp Difficulty in Flintshire. Sale of Newspapers on Sundays. AT the ;quarterly leting of the "?,Flintsh-?re M" Standing join,, C,omi'll Ittee alt -I?old, on Thurs- day, Mr R. LI. Jones, of Rhyl, presided. Chief Constable's Report. The report of the Chief-Constable (Majo,r Wepber) showed that during the past quarter 39 indictable offences were reported, for which 26 persons were apprehended, 9 proceeded against by summons, and 4 cas-es, were undetected. There were 324 persons proceeded against for non-indictable offences, of whom 262 were con- victed, 46 discharged, i delivered to the army, and in 15 cases the charges were withdrawn. The number of cases of drunkenness was 115, which was in advante both of the number last quarter and of the number of the corresponding quarter last year. On the proposition of the Chairman, a vote of condolence was passed with the family of the late Mr P. B. Davies-Ccoke in their bereave- ment. The Tramp Problem. Considerable discussion took place on the subject of vagrants in the county. The Glou- cestershire County Council requested that the committee would adopt a resolution similar to the following:—"That this committee views with great apprehension the progressive and serious increase in vagrancy m the country, and respectfully submits that the subject should receive the careful consideration of the Local Government Board, with a view to the establish- ment of a more 'effective and uniform system for dealing with tramps." Mr P. P. Pennant proposed that they adopt the resolution. In seconding, Mr J. Prince (Connah's Quay) though^ that some notice should Be taken of the proportion of old soldiers and reserve men who drifted into The ranks of tramps. He thought there should be an imperial contribution to, the cost of keeping those who formerly belonged to the army. Hie. considered, also there should be some .system of teaching young soldiers a trade whilst they were in, the army, so that they would be able to compete with their better-trained rivals in after years, when they entered civil life. The proportion of old soldiers and army reserve men passing through Holywell Work- house was from 17 to iS per cent. of the total number of tramps relieved. The Chairman, thought it was too sweeping a charge to say that the majority of the tramp cases were to be attributed to the short-service system in the army. They had about 3,000 tramps per annum passing through St. Asaph, but most of those1 were subject to some in- firmity. There were very few who were able- bodied. There were- some exceptions, and po-gsibly these were army men. Mr Pennant said the discussion served to show how advisable it was that they should have a uniform system of dealing with tramps throughout the country. The resolution was carried. Sunday Trade. The Hawarden Free Church Council wrote complaining of the niuisance caused by the sale Q,f newspapers on Sundays in the Hawarden and Buckley district, and requesting that im- mediate steps be taken to put a stop, to the practice altogether, or at least, during hours of divine service. The Chairman said they had tried to deal with this matter in Rhyl, but they had failed. The communication was handed to the Chief- Constable, with a request that he should give th,e matter his attention.

Llanrwst Urban District Council. Extensive Street Repairs. Compulsory Notification of Consumption. A Medical Man's Opinion. THE monthly meeting of this authority was held on Friday evening. There were present Mr W. J. Williams, J.P. (c'hairman), Dr Owen, H hi Rev Cyruwyd Wllhams,Messrs Wm. uges, Edward 'Mills, T. R. Jones, J. Rhydwen Jones, with the clerk (Mr R. R. Owen), and other offi- cials. Water Supply Works Loan. The Council in, committee reported the re- ceipt of a communication .from the .solicitor of the Public Works Loan Commissioners forward- ing for the approval of the Council the draft security of the loam of £ 1,560 for the joint water works of Llanrwst and Trefriw. The security for the loan was now executed in the customary manner. Mr Wm. Hughes stated the' Joint Water Com- mittee had resolved1 to attend the arbitration pro- ceedings 'held1 at Chester on the following Mon- day in reference to the water scheme, in order to give evidence if called for. It was recommended that the expenses of the members be paid by -the Council. This latter recommendation was adopted. The committee further reported having ap- pointed Mr W. P. Roberts,, solicitor, to repre- sent the committee at the inquiry, and that he be empowered' to engage counsel if this was considered necessary. This was also approved. Town Hall Alterations. The committee further reported receiving a letter from the Local Government Board return- ing the plan of rahe proposed, alterations to the Town Hall, and requesting that the drainage arrangements be shown thereon. It was re-solved that Mr Mclntyre be requested to show the drainage arrangements on the plan, and that it be transmitted toO the Local Govern- ment Boardl. Extensive Street Repairs. The Highway Committee reported having con- sidered the 'surveyor's estimate of the cosit of improving the fo-otways along the district roads in the town as follows:—George-street, ^168 2S; SCiotlandl-street, 146 8s Narrow-Sitreet, £63 3s 6d; WatLng-'Street, £ ng 2s; Conway- terrace, ^45 I5s 8d; Plough-skreet (West), £ g 9s 6d; King's Head to main road boundary, ^'3 18s 6d; total, ^555 19s 2d. The committee recommended that the esti- mate be adlopiLed, and that the proposed im- provements be carried out with the exception of those contemplated) in George-street, the com- mittee being of opinion that this SJtreeh could be left for the present, by doing some slight re- pairs where mostly needed, nhus reducing the estimate to Z387 17s. It was also recom:mend-ed, that the surveyor prepare a plan and specifications of the work, and thalc the Council apply for the sanction of the Local Government Board to borrow the sum of £400 for carrying out the .improvements sug- gested. 'M'r Wm. 'Hughes 'did not see the point of ex- cluding George-street from the improvement scheme, especially now that they applied for a loan. They might as well complete the whole thing, and he imoved1 as an amendment t-&Je George-street be also repaired, and that the loan applied for be increased by the necessary amount. There being no seconder, however, fche mo- tio.n fa'led and tihe co?mim'tt"'s r. I -commenda- tions were adopted. Appointment of Governor. The chairman was re-appointed to represent the Council on the University College of North Wales. Fj e Engine Boiier. 'Mr Wm. Hughes; stated that from, the report of the examination made on behalf of the Sheam Users' Association, it was seen that the state of the fire engine boiler was very satisfactory. Unsatisfactory Railway Service. It was reported that inquiries had been made by the railway authorities concerning the com- ) plaints in regard to the unsatisfactory railway service provided for the Conway Valley, and that the grievances complained of would be brou 1 .ght to t?h-e notice o;f the railway offi,,?'als a!t Chester. (Hear, hear.) Finance. The Collector reported collecting ZIS4 5s 6d during the month. The balance to the Coun- cil's credit at the bank at present was Irii6 os 1 id. Breaking Up the Streets. The Secretary of the Llanrwst Electricity Sup- ply Company wrote notifying the Council of the company's intention to open trenches from their works TO the corner of Market-square, and other places, to enable them to lay down new mains. Proposed Sanatorium for Consumptives. Mr J. R'hydlwen Jones, who, in company with Dr Owen, attended the recent conference held at Rhyl in reference Eo the provision of sana- toria for consumptives in Denbighshire, sub- mitted a report as to. the result of the confer- ence. In the course of his remarks he referred to the views expressed by some of the delegates to the effect that the question had not been fairly discussed, and observed that in his opin- ion the medical men in aittendance erred rather more on their own side than on the side of the public. It was not correct to allege that ithe doctors gave only one side of the question; tne discussion generally was fair, and, so far as he could see, unbiassed. Concerning the question of making the noti- fication. of consumption compulsory, Dr Owen said' he was not in agreement with the sugges- tion. It was his opinion that that would prove highly detrimental to the condition of a suf- ferer. While patients were ignorant of what they were suffering from, they did1 not needless- ly worry themselves, and there was thus a much better prospect of their recover}'. (Hear, hear.) On the motion of Mr T. R. Tones, a hearty vote of thanks was accorded. Dr Owen and Mr Rhydwen Jones for .attending the conference.

—— Harvesting is still in progress in the Rich- I o mond district, Yorkshire. —— The secretary of the National Blind Relief Society says thai out of six millions given to charity last year, ^4,926 was given to the blind. In a fit of depression through chronic ill- health, John Grimshaw, of Bolton, a middfle- aged man, placed a cartridge in his mouth and literally blew his head off.

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