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North Wales Counties Asylum. I Quarterly Meeting at Bangor. Appointment of Junior Counsel. Charges of Jobbery by Mr. Lumley. THE quarterly meeting of the visitors was held at Bangor on Monday. Mr P. P. Pennant (Flint- shire) presided, and the other visitors present were Messrs J. W. Lumley (Colwyn Bay), A. O. Evans (Mayor of Denbigh), and Thomas Wil- liams (Llewesog), representing Denbighshire; Dr. Easterby and Mr W. Elwy Williams, repre- senting Flintshire; Mr Harry Clegg, Dr. E. 1. Edwards, and Mr R. W. Roberts, representing Anglesey; Messrs J. T. Roberts, J. Jones Morris, and. W. J. Parry, representing Carnarvonshire; Dr. Roger Hughes and Dr. Robert Roberts, re- presenting Merionethshire; and Messrs P. E. Storey and William Parry, representing the sub- scribers. It was reported that the number of patients in the asylum was 780, as compared with 799 in tne corresponding period of last year. The erk (Mr Barker) reported that three counties were in arrears to the amount of 65,270. Of this sum Anglesey was' responsible for about ^1,150. The sum of ^20,000 was cons'dered to be re- quired during the ensuing year. Mr Lumley asked what report the Consultative j Committee had to present to the quarterly meet- ing. He hoped they would let the reporters know exactly how things stood, and let the public know also. There was something which it was evidently desired to keep back. Mr Jones Morris (warmly) As a member o that committee I ask you to prove it. Mr Lumley I will. Dr. E. P. Edwards thought the committee should not go and make a show of themselves in this way, in the presence of reporters. (Hear, hear.) The Chairman also deprecated the course ap- parently proposed to be taken by Mr Lumley, and if the committee would allow him he would give a short account of what the committee had done in connection with the engagement of coun- sel for the arbitration case coming on. Mr W. J. Parry. expressed the opinion luat it was not to the advantage of the committee to go into this matter in public. (Hear, hear.) Mr Lumley said: ne did not wish to go into the particulars of the claim in question. What he wanted to know was. what the Consultative Com- mittee had done with re,gard to certain instruc- tions given by the House Committee. The Chairman observed that the matter must be gone into in public or in private. He would act rule Mr Lumley out of order, but would leave it to the committee to say whether the matter should be discussed in the presence of the re- porters or not. Mr Harry Clegg said that the committee really had no report to make, as their work had not been completed. Mr Lumley Exposes a Jobbery. Mr Lumley said there was information, and work had been done by the Consultative com- mittee that the public were entitled to know about. "I am going to expose in this committee a jobbery." (Laughter.) Several objections were raised to Mr Lumley's proceeding. Mr J. T. Roberts, a member of the Consulta- tive Committee, proposed that Mr Lumley be allowed to let off his fireworks. (Laughter.) Mr Clegg: Mr Lumley has made a serious charge against the committee-he has charged them with jobbery. Mr Lumley I am prepared to prove it. The Chairman again attempted to give an ac- count of what had been done in the matter, coming; ultimately to the statement that a report of the committee's work had been laid before the meeting. Mr Lumley: No, sir. That's what I want to discuss. Dr. Easterby movedl that fTie committee pass to the next business. The Chairman said he was not 'going to rule Mr Lumley out of order. He: would leave the committee to say whether the matter should be discussed in public or in private. Mr J. T. Roberts thought Mr Lumley ought to be allowed to have his say. What that gentle- man had already said: about jobbery, etc., would be published, and 'the whole thing might now as well be published. (Hear ,hear.) Mr Thomas, Williams moved, that the matter be discussed in private. Mr W. J. Parry, whilst agreeing with the chair- man that Mr Lumley was in order appealed to that gentleman not to discuss the matter in pub- lic, at any rate not in the spirit in which he had begun. They all knew what it referred to—the appointment of a junior counsel, a matter which practically had been decided and settled. Mr Elwy Williams agreed that it would be best to discuss the matter privately, but, since Mr Lumley had brought such serious charges y forward, it was only fair to the gentlemen con- cerned that he should be allowed to prove the charges of jobbery, if he could do so, and give them an opportunity of clearing themselves. If the charges were proved, the sooner those gentle- men resigned the better. Mr W. J. Parry again appealed to Mr Lumley to withdraw the charges, and let the matter drop. Mr Lumley: Upon no consideration will 1, withdraw the charges. I am prepared to prove the jobbery. Mr Jones Morris: I challenge him to prove it. I defy him to prove it. The committee then divided, when Mr J. T. Roberts's motion that Mr Lumley be allowed to proceed was carried. Mr J. T. Roberts Before Mr Lumley goes on we ought to have an understanding, Mr Lumley Oh, no, sir; no understanding. Accuser and Judge. Mr Roberts I only wanted to know who was to decide whether jobbery has been committed or not. I object, to Mr Lumley being accuser and judge, all in one. (Laughter.) Mr W. J. Parry: We shall decide. Proceeding, Mr Lumley said that the House Committee in December last had passed a reso- lution to the effect that the question of briefing junior counsel in the pending arbitration case be referred to the Consultative Committee, with power to act. That resolution was passed in consequence of a communication from their solicitor, Mr Churton. Mr J. T. Roberts A resolution proposed by Mr Lumley. Mr Lumley No, sir. I seconded it. It was proposed by Mr Storey. I now ask for that communication from our solicitor to be read. The Clerk then read a letter from Mr Churton, which was to the effect that at a conference with Mr Hudson, the counsel engaged for the com- mittee, to decide whether he should have a leader or a junior the choice was left with Mr Hudson, and he expressed a preferencs for a leader. Subsequently, Mr Hudson wrote to the effect that whilst be would prefer that the committee should decide whether he should have a leader or a junior, if the decision was left to him he would rather have a junior, and named Mr Arnold Inman, whose services in many ways would be very valuable to him in this connection. Mr Lumley said that in consequence of that communication the committee decided by reso- lution to refer this matter of the appointment of a junior counsel to the Consultative Committee. The Consultative Committee met, and oddly enough, by some circumstances1 he could not explain, the minutes of that meeting as sub- mitted to another committee did not contain as usual the full particulars of what was done, but simply stated 'that instructions were given to the solicitor for briefing junior counsel. That committee would have known nothing of what the Consultative Committee did but for a ques- tion that was asked in the House committee. It was then discovered that the Consultative Committee composed of three members, Mr Clegg, Mr Jones Morris, and Mr J. T. Roberts, of Carnarvon-three solicitors, or two solicitors and one ex-officio-and they decided to appoint two junior counsel. That meant that tne county would have to pay an unnecessary fee, and one counsel would have been quite sufficient. Why did the committee appoint twor For this rea- son. The counsel whom they had previously en. trusted with an arbitration as important as this had managed without a junior counsel at. all, but they decided, on the suggestion of Mr Chur- ton and Mr Hudson, that they should be a junior counsel briefed, and Mr Hudson himself intro- duced the name of a person to assist aim in the duties of a junior, which were not very im- portant. No solicitor who wished, to save money would appoint two junior counsel when one was sufficient, but here was a case where two were appointed, and here he came to the jobbery. What Occurred Privately. He was now going to inform them of what oc- curred privately. A member of this committee, Mr Jones.Morris, asked him on December.15 at Rhyl whether he (Mr Lumley) would consent to his (Mr Jones Morris's) brother being appointed junior counsel in this case. The answer which he (Mr Lumley) gave was, "I shall consider the matter elsewhere. I will not tie myself to your brother." What was done? Mr Jones Morris -attended this committee, and assisted by Mr J. T. Roberts, of Carnarvon. Mr Harry Clegg: And me. (Laughter.) Mr Lumley: And Mr Clegg. They meet, and so as to get Mr T. E. Morris in they decide to have two junior counsel. Now I consider that a jobbery, and I should not tolerate it nor allow it. It would have been far better if Mr Jones Morris, who was Mr T. E. Morris's brother, had had nothing to do with the appointment of junior counsel in a matter of this kind where his own brother is interested. I think it is jobbery, and I think the ratepayers of this county will resent having to pay for two junior counsel when one would have been sufficient; and surely we might accept the man suggested by Mr Hudson, who would have assisted him, in all that he re- quired to carry on the arbitration. Why was not Mr Hudson's idea carried out? It was ne- cessary that Mr T. E. Morris's name should be introduced, and the way that was done was by having two junior counsel. I consider that nothing else but jobbery, whether those gentle- men knew anything; at all about it or not. I was appealed to and asked whether I would support Mr T. E. Morris, and I refused. Mr W. J. Parry: How was it that you did not attend this meeting Mr Lumley's Trap. Mr Lumley I was not a member. It was I who seconded the resolution to 'give the com- mittee power to appoint. I knew what was going to be done, and I led him into a trap. The Chairman said he was a member of the committee, but unfortunately was unable to be present, but he must say, when He examined the enormous amount of work that there was in connection with this arbitration case, the piles of correspondence and so forth, he was not sur- prised that his colleagues came to the conclu- sion that the work was a bit too much for one junior counsel. Though the charge of jobbery did not apply to him, had he been present he was quite certain he also would have been smudged with the jobbery brush. (Laughter.) Dr. Easterby submitted that the committee did not go beyond the resolution. Had it given them power to appoint a junior counsel they- would have been authorised to appoint only one, but instructions to appoint junior counsel had a different meaning. Mr P. E. Storey said he proposed the resolution of instruction to the committee, and he thought the committee exceeded its powers. The idea was most distinctly that they should appoint a junior counsel. He beld the opinion that they should not go further than to say that the com- mittee rather exceeded their powers. The Chairman Is there any resolution? Mr J. T. Roberts On the question of jobbery the question is whether we are called upon to plead. (Laughter.) Mr Storey proposed that they pass on to the next business. Mr Jones Morris said the question had been mentioned to him and that his brother's name would be proposed, and he simply mentioned to Mr Lumley that he thought the name would be proposed, and whether he would' support it. He did not know whether there was any jobbery in asking a favour from a person Wüo m'ght be a friend of his. He did' not blame Mr Lumley for what he had done that day, but it was too much to tar three profesional gentlemen witn a charge of jobbery because one of them happened to have a brother wlio was a barrister, and whose name had been mentioned as. a likely jun:or in this case. The two other g ntlemen thought the barrister was fit for the work, and recommended him. He (Mr Jones Morris) was not going to vote against his brother, and simply because he did not vote against h:s brother he was to be called a jobber. Mr Harry Clegg said the committee went into the matter fully, with the correspondence before them, and knowing that a lot more had been directed to be printed they felt it would be im- possible for one man to grasp the whole of the facts in the correspondence, without assistance from someone at his elbow at the time. There were sometimes as many as six or seven counsel in a large case, and this was a question in- volving some ^30,000. They did not want after- wards to be told that the junior first proposed was not up to all the facts. They felt that he ought to have some assistance. Then, to a certa-n extent, the junior was nominated by the senior counsel, and was in his chambers, where he could be consulted at any time. But, at the same time, they wanted someone who would look after their interests at this end, whom they knew something about. They did not know the junior proposed by the counsel, and therefore they felt that they must insist upon something more being done to have the whole case put properly before the arbitrator. With that view it was suggested that they Had better have two juniors. If they had exceeded their authority he was sorry to hear it. He did not know whether they were limited to one junior or not. He believed they acted quite sincerely in the matter, and when the name of Mr T. E. Morris was mentioned he stated he had seen certain reports Mr Morris had made with reference to the charities, and that Mr Morris was certainly a plodder. That was the remark he made. He said that tney wanted a plodder in a case of this kind, some- one who wo'uld plod through the correspond- ence, and that he (Mr Clegg) would be pleased if Mr Morris would act in the case. That started the matter. Mr Lumley: I now beg to propose that we pay only one junior counsel's fee, and that the two junior counsel engaged divide that between them. The Mayor of Denbigh, a member of the com- mittee, though absent from the meeting which had led to the present discussion, thoroughly endorsed all that the committee had done. Alleged Dishonourable Conduct. Mr J. T. Roberts asked the committee to accept his resignation for this reason. He thought as a member of that committee he would be asso- ciated with gentlemen. (Hear, hear.) But Mr Lumley had that day admitted himself to be guilty of conduct far more dishonourable man that of which he had accused the committee. Mr Lumley had stated that Mr Jones, Morris had preferred a certain request to him, and that sub- sequently he had actually seconded this resolu- tion giving the Consultative Committee power to act in the matter of the appointment" of a junior counsel, kndjving what was going ,to happen, in order to land Mr Jones, Morris into a trap. Mr Lumley: Yes. Mr J. T. Roberts That, I say, is the most dishonourable conduct a man could be guilty of. (Hear, hear.) Mr Lumley: I could say a lot more if I lIked. Mr J. T. Roberts Say what you like. Mr Elwy Williams: I propose tnat we ap- prove entirely of what has been done, and that we exonerate the Consultative Committee. Dr. E. S. Edwards seconded the proposal. Mr Lumley had been aiming at getting a good show m the papers, and to show himself upon the public press. (Hear, hear.) He was most inxious that the reporters should not leave the room. It appeared to him that Mr Lumely had that day displayed a me art,- dirty spirit, and he hoped the representatives of the press would publish his words asi well as Mr Lumley's. (Hear, hear.) Mr W. J. Parry wished the unkind words ha.j not been said, and that they would not be printed. (Hear, hear.) Mr Elwy "Williams's motion was carried, with only one dissentient (Mr Lumley) who pointed out that several members had not voted. At a later stage of the meeting, Mr J. T. Roberts requested the chairman to ask the meet- ing to appoint a successor to himself on the Consultative Committee, as he desired to resign., A resolution was, however, passed unanimously, urging him not to persist in resigning, and Mr Roberts acquiesced in the request.

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