Flintshire Observer Mining Journal and General Advertiser for the Counties of Flint Denbigh

RURAL SANITARY AUTHORITY. At the fortnightly meeting of the above Authority on Friday last there were present:—Messrs. J. Scott Bankes (chairman), J. Reney, Isaac Hughes, Joseph jGarner, W. Roberts and Thos. Humphreys. THE PBETENTION OF INFLUENZA. A printed communication was read from the Local Government Board requesting the adoption of measures for the prevention of the Influenza Epidemic. CONNAH'S QUAY DBAINAGK. The Clerk read a letter received from Mr. George Biddalj, Estate Office, Crewe, requesting the inten- tion of the Authority as to the letter written in August last concerning the discharge of sewage into the Railway ditoh at Connah's Quay.—The Clerk said the letter referred to threatened to serve notice upon parties discharging into the ditch.—Mr. Reney: Let that be done.—The Chairman suggested that the Clerk should reply that the Authority did not see its way to abate the nuisance, and they would leave Mr. Biddall to take his course in the matter if he was of opinion that there was any nuisance.-The suggestion was agreed to. W ATEB FOB LERSWOOD. Mr. Edward Peters, Mold, wrote to the Board, being unable to attend on account of illness. He, in his letter, hoped that the Board would see that the Mold GliS and Water Company would bring water to Leeswood and not let that company get out of it as the Hawarden Company did. He hoped the Board would see that a clause was inserted in the Bill for that purpose.—The Clerk said Mr. J. L. Muspratt bad written drawing attention to the pro- posed application for powers by the Mold Gas and Water Company.—The Clark said the Board might have the Local Government Board petitioned in the matter, that the Company should provide the water within two years, otherwise it will be over a period of seven years.—The Clerk was requested to write to the promoters of the bill enquiring as to their intentions in the above mentioned supply to Lees- wood and Nerquis. A CONDEMNED HOUSE. The Sanitajy Inspector (Mr. J. L. Williams), reported that he had served the necessary notices upon the owner and occupant of a house at Perthy- terfyn, Brynford, which had been condemned as uninhabitable by the Medical Officer of Health.— The Inspector was instructed to proeeed. CABMEL QUABBY. The Inspector asked what could be done towards getting the quarry en the right hand side of the road above Carmel British School, which, owing to the low wall fencing it off, was dangerous to young children by climbing on to the wall and falling down the precipitous sides of the quarry.-The Chairman thought the Inspector should make representations to the Holywell Highway Board who would be the proper parties to see to the pro- tection being adequate. WASTE OF WATBB. The Inspector complained of a waste of water at Mostyn by children tampering with the valves of the stand pipes at Mostyn, and also interfering with the caps of the stand pipes. He suggested that he should be instructed to request the teaebers of the day-schools, to warn the children against the practice.—The instruction was given. SCARLET FETEB. The Mold Sanitary Inspector (Mr. E. W. Jonea), reported that two cases of scarlet fever had occurred at Gwernymynydd, and also two at Leeswood in both places he had taken the necessary precautions to prevent the spread of the infection. I HOTKLi AT HALKYN. The Mold Inspector reported a case of over- crowding at Halkyn. He had given notice, bnt I the excuse made was that the people could not get ] another house. The house besides being too small I for the occupants was in a bad state of repair, j Many of the houses at Halkyn were no better than hovels. MONTHLY SESSIONS TUESDAY.—Before R. Sankey, Esq. (chairman), J. L. Muspratt, Esq., and Llew. J. Henry, Esq. TBANSFKBa. The absolute transfer of the license of the Cross Keys Hotel, High-street, was granted to Mr. Wm. A. Hicks. Application was made for the transfer of the license of the Old Antelope Hotel, Well-street, from Mrs. Eliza Davies to Mrs. Annie C. O. Davies. The application was granted. MADE TRACKS. Hugh Spencer, of Boot, Bagillt, vps sunaTnoned by John E. Jones, of Tros yr-afon, Greenfield, for Msault committed on the 25th or January. As defendant did not appear, on service of summons having been proved, the justices issued a warrant for his arrest. A BOW I» A POTTEBT SHOP, A summons for assault was tak a out bv Michael Cuddy, marine store dealer, High-street, Holywell, against D. Parry, of Holywell. There were also cross-summons by Parry against Cuddy and Peter Fergusson, Penyball. Parry was defended by Mr. H. T. Smith, solicitor.—M. Cuddy said on Friday Bight lat about 8 p.m., he was in his own kitchen when the defendant Parry came in. His daughter was in the ehop and Parry asked where he (com- plainant) was. He heard him speaking very loudly to his daughter so he came out of the kitchen. Parry said to him, Have you been up to see the hedge." He replied "No, didn't you say you Would come down at nine o'clock for me." Why didn't you go up" Parry said. "No" replied complainant "I had something else tl dn," '<! had to go to Abergele." Parry called him a li -.r and said he had not been away. Complainant said "No more of that; out of here." Defendant said "Pay me my money," and witness said "I will when I see that the job is finished." Parry then called him all sorts of names," and there being a shovel in the place he (complainant) took it up in his bands but put it down again. He ordered Parry out "f the shop, and Parry hit him. There was a ecu SI a and Parry broke some pots in the place.- By Air Smith He had agreed with Parry to have some hedges cut at Penymaes. He refused point blank to pty him until he had seen the work. He did DO! r'eaten to strike him with the shovel.— Polio* tible Williams (Lloe), said, <>H Friday eight 1<1. he heard a great row in High-street. v+*. He found Parry and Cuddy fighting in the shop. When be got there he saw Parry knock Cuddy into the middle of a lot of plates, He took Parry out of the shop.—By Mr. Smith He saw Parry had a black eye. He did not complain that be had been kicked. Peter Fergusson said on the night in question he was going down High-atreet, and when opposite Mr. Cuddy's shop he heard the latter's daughter "squealing" "murdar." Upon going in he saw both Parry and Cuddy on the floor. Parry was the closer to witness, so he took hold of him to get him up as he thought to separate them. On getting up Parry got hold of Witness and turning round gave Cuddy three or four kicks in his side. Parry knocked his (witness') hat off and they caught hold of each otber. He tried to throw him but got him agaiust the counter. They both got loose and separated. He (witness) went to the other end of the shop and Parry stayed where he was until Police-constable Williams came in and took him out. He saw Parry strike Cuddy over the policeman's shoulder and knock him into the pots. He made the side of Cuddy's nose bleed. He should not have gone into the shop bat that he heard Cuddy's daughter scream.—That being the case for the complainant, Mr. Smith gave an absolute denial to the whole story that had been detailed by the oom- plainant and his witnesses.—David Parry, who said he arranged with Cuddy to cut fencee at Penymaes. He started the work on Monday waek. On Wednes- day evening he called with Cuddy and told him that he was engaged on the work, and on Thursday Cuddy said he would come up to see them the following morning, but he did not do eo. He called on Friday and Cuddy's daughter said her father had gone to Rhyl. He called later in the evening and BUW Cuddy and told him he had come for his money. Cuddy then said he had not seen the hedges. He asked him to eome up and see them, but he said he would not, and he would not pay him. He (Parry) said he would make him pay. He (Cuddy) said he would not pay him, and taking up a shore), said if he did not get out of the shop he woald kill him. He asked him not to do that. Cuddy held the shovel up to strike him, and then struck him with his right hand. He then defended himself against Cuddy. He would swear that he did not strike Cuddy first. Fergusson came there and struck him and he was kioked. He never touched Fergusson.- By Mr. Cuddy: Cuddy struck first as he held the shovel in his hand.—Mr. A. Redfern said he saw Cuddy strike Parry as he waa backing out of the shop. Fergusson came there and rushing in struok Parry three times in the faoe. Witness called out "Hold on, don't kill him." The two men were striking Parry, who did not strike back. He was sure that Parry never struok Cuddy while the police-constable was taking him out of the shop. Parry never got his hand up to strike him. -Thomas Jones, Whitford-street, said when he got to the shop he saw Parry in the act of getting up. Cuddy and Fergueson were there. Cuddymaid"Gotont" and struck him ou the left oheek. Williams came there and Cuddy said I give this man in custody Williams said" Summon him," and told Parry to get out of the place. He never saw Parry strike either before or after the Police-constable came there.—Mr. Smith claimed that if Parry had struck Cuddy it was in self defence, as Cuddy had acted aggressively by the fact of having raised the shovel for the act of striking. -Poliae. con stable Williams was again called and said he plainly saw Parry strike Cuddy as he took him out of the shop. Parry went into the shop for his hat. He saw Parry strike Cuddy into the middle of the pots, and any- one else about the shop door could also have seen him.—After a brief retirement to consider the case, the Chairman said the Benoh had decided to dismiss the cases, each party to pay their own costs.

THE LOCAL BOARD AND ITS FJUXXONSBS. It was stated that summonses had been taken out against Mr. Wm. Freeman, as receiver for the Court of Chancery, of the property owned by Wm. Davies and others, and situate in New-road.—Mr. Wm. Davies, solicitor, Clerk to the Local Board, repre- sented that authority. There were also present Mr. E. Bryan (chairman), and Mr. Lambert (member of the Board, Mr. Wm. Jones (Sanitary Inspeotor), and Mr. Jos. Jones (Surveyor).—Mr. Freeman asked that the servioe of summons should be proved. —Mr. Wm. Davies asked for the copies of the summons when it appeared that there was only the information to produoe, and it was stated that the summonses were served upon Mr. Wm. Davies, Mr. W. Freeman and the authorities ia London.—Mr. Davies said he did not appear in answer to the sum- mons. He only appeared as Clerk to the Board.— Mr. Muspratt: That is fatal to the case the service cannot be proved.—Mr. Freeman If he will prove service of summons I will answer it. I may inform the Beneh however, how the matters stand at present.—In November last, the question of these dangerous houses was brought before the Board and instructions were given to serve notice on the owners No notice was served until the end of December, When I received the notice I sent it tc the Chief Clerk of the Chancery Court, but being Christmas time nothing could be done in the matter. On Sunday last I received a letter from the Chief Clerk stating that an order had been made out to have the property taken down according to the estimate given. I on Monday morning gave instructions to a builder to carry out the work and that instraction was given in the presence of the Surveyor. I could not take the houses down without the permission of the Court of Chancery.—The case fell through.

CONNAH'S QUAY. PErrY SUSIONI.A..t these sessions on Thursday last, Thomas Beavan Bennett, landlord of the New Inn, Connah's Quay, was fined 29s., including eosts for being drunk on the licensed premises of the Hare and Hounds, Connah's Quay, and also with assaulting Inspector William Minshall while in the sxecution of his duty. THE NAVIGATION OT THE DBE. —The annual meeting sf the River Dee Conservancy Board waa held at Chester on Monday, the Duke of Westminster presiding. His grace was re-elected chairman. Mr. John Thompson moved the adoption of the accounts, which showed that an adverae balance of C218 17s. 7d. with which the year opened had been reduced to JM1 6s. Id. He stated that the acting surveyor reported that the statutory depth in the river had now been obtained from Chester to the sea, ind the works committee, acting upon their rights, ilad asked the Board of Trade to certify that the statutory depth had been obtained, so that tolls could be levied by the board. Mr. William Brown seconded, and the accounts were passed. Mr. S. Coppack thought it was very gratifying that the receipts from anchorage tolls during the year had amounted to £ 122 lis., as that meant as many as 2,451 vessels bad been in the river. The report of the acting oonservator stated that the depth of channel prescribed by act of Parliament had been obtained. The channel in the estuary had frequently changed its course, and at times during the year was quite dangerous. With a view of bettering this state of things an extension of the old training wall was decided upon, and 600 yards had been added to its length. He did not claim that this work had already been the cause of alteration, but the channel from Connah's Quay downwards was better than he ever remembered it. The outlay during the year for navigation works, including p ant, had been £ 5,016, and upon maintenance £ 640, including the cost of the ferries. Mr. John Thompson thought the board ought to congratulate the acting ShrVa7UV U £ 0nnfe*Tinfi> obtained the statutory +i? *aid» before congratulating the official or them»elyea they eught to be satisfied that the statutory depth had been incontrovertibly obtained, and also that it eould be maintained. The chairman was of opinion that the board should take the word of its offioer that the depth had been attained. The Board of Trade were the confirming authority, and they would have to be satisfied before they certified that there was the statutory depth. Mr. J. Herbert Lewis asked if, after the tolls had been imposed, they eould be taken off agaia. The Clerk replied that if once the tolls were imposed under the act they could only be taken off by the interferaace of Parliament. He might remind them, however, that the tolls were given in order that the statutory depth might be maintained. After some further discussion, the repoit was adopted.

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FLINT. UNIONIST MEETING-MR. PENNANT'S REPLY TO MR. MUSPRATT'S QUESTIONS. MR. P. P. PENNANT ON THE LABOUR QUESTION. On Monday evening a meeting of Unionists was held in the Town Hall, under the presidency of Capt. Bate, Kelsterton, when Mr. P. P. Pennant, (the Conservative Candidate for the Flint Boroughs) was present, and Mr. V. J. Hussey-Walsh, Dublin. The Chairman at the opening of the meeting apologised for the absence of Mr. Waddington, (Unionist Candidate for Bishop Auckland), a tele- gram being just to hand that he was afflicted with the prevailing epidemio. The attendance at the meeting was very fair, but no doubt the severity of the Influenza epidemio in Flint affected the attend- ance in a great measure. The Chairman in opening the meeting said the first duty he felt called upon to perform was a sad one it was to express their deep sympathy with Her Majesty the Queen, the Prince and Princess of Wales and family, and last of all with Princess Mary of Teck—the bride that was to be-upon the unlooked for death of the Duke of Clarence. Never, but onee before, had the heart of this nation been so lamentably sore as at the present time caused by the death of the Duke of Clarence. He died at a time when his life was becoming of use to the nation, and when it was about to be the most joyous to himself. Sad as those things were, the world must go on, and they were present that night to explain to all present from a Unionist point of view their opinions both with regard to the politics of the nation and the Govern- ment of the day. They could well remember the time when the Unionist Government came into power in 1886, and the time when the Gladstonian Government came into power in 1880. It was not his duty to go into details as to the policy of the Government at those times. That would be done by Mr. Pennant and Mr. Hussey-Walsh. He would, however, ask them to contrast as far as they could the difference between the Gladstonian Government and that of Lord Salisbury from 1886 to the present time. Whether they did not consider in their heart of hearts that the condition of the country was in a very different state to what it was when they took office in 1886. They knew how the Gladstonian Government rolled from blunder to blunder they never failed to blunder, and like a big ship in a storm they plunged down and down by the weight of their blundering. So that when Lord Salisbury took office, the whole of the country was in a state of chaos; there was no confidence in the country, because the people would not invest their capital during the rule of administration such as Mr. Gladstone's. What was the state of the country now ? No friction anywhere, and legislation of an exceptional kind, and no man, short of one fit for Denbigh Lunatic Asylum, could say that there was anything but what they could benefit from, and benefit greatly in the administration of Lord Salisbury's Government and administration (loud applause). Mr. Arthur Patten, proposed That this meeting desires to express its unabated confidence in Her Majesty's Government, who by their able admin- istration and judicious legislation, have done so much to promote the business of the country and the general welfare of the people" (hear, hear). Mr. J. F. Bowen seconded the resolution. Mr. P. P. Pennant, who was warmly received upon rising to address the meeting, said, Ladies and gentlemen-May I say old friends at Flint, as the only terms that can apply to the close relations that has existed between its so very many years—It is now some 14 years since I came before you almost as a stranger, and on that occasion I received an amount of support that as a stranger I could never expeot. I have always felt particularly grateful to the Burghers of Flint for the support they gave me on that occasion, I am proud to feel that I have so many friends in Flint, and I think I may say that though I have gone through three hard- fought and severe political campaigns in this Borough, while I have made so many friends I have not got a single enemy (applause). I have the greatest satisfaction in supporting this resolution. I believe it is true from the first word to the last (bear hear). I do believe that this existing Government deserves well of the people. It deserves well of them and I trust that for the good of the country it will receive a hearty support at the next general election (hear hear). You have been asked by your Chairman, and also by the eloquent proposer of this resolution to contrast the state of affairs of the last five years while Lord Salusbury's Government has been in office with that of the preceding five years when Mr. Gladstone was Prime Minister. I would go further than that. I would ask you to contrast the career of this present Government with that of any preceding Government. With regard to foreign affairs—foreign affairs do not come home fro people very much, for when they do not hear anything about foreign affairs they for- get them-but depend upon it, they have great influence at home, and when you hear nothing about them, then it is the best thing you can hear of foreign affairs. That is a bit of an Irish bull (laughter). That has been our condition during the last five years, and I believe this fact that during the whole of this century you will not find five years like the last five years-with this exception they would not find a five years during which they had not been at war (hear hear). That was a very im- portant fact. Compare it with the preceding five years when Mr. Gladstone was prime minister. Daring that time how many wars had we of oar own P We had a most serious war in Egypt; a war in Africa, a war in India and during that period twenty millions of money over and above the ordinary expenditure of the army and navy was spent in connection with these wars. Twenty millions is uot a very important matter to a rich country like this, but you may depend upon it that it is a very important matter. And not merely the expenditure of the twenty million, there was also to be considered the interruption which invari- ably follows in connection with trade and oommeroe. Well, this is one ground on which the present Government may claim a vote of confidence from any community in the country. Next there has been wise administration. The first and most im- I portant duty of a new Government is. surelv to govern P And have they not governed well ? Take as an illustration the only part of the kingdom which was in an unsatisfactory state. It was a far different Ireland in 1886 to what it is at the present time (applause). What did we see at that time? Disturb inces were rife throughout the country; outrage, continually occurring people had to be protected and followed by policemen or their lives were sacrificed commerce and trade were almost extinct in the country confidence had ab- solutsly flown away, and with confidence credit, for without credit, no money and without money, no expenditure; and without expenditure, no work or wages (hear, hear). That was the state of Ireland at that time. What is it at present? It is very nearly like a part of Flintshire (ap- plause). That is a specimen of good adminis- tration—good government the first duty of any Government in poirer. Well, another duty is wise legislation. Now, all Radical Governments are un- fortunate in this respect; they run very much on talk and sensation, the consequence is they are bound to bring in exciting measures. They cannot attend to the humble-it is not the humble really, but the important and useful — business of the oountry, because that is dry and unexciting. "The Merchandise Marks Act," "The Housing of the Working Classes Act," I- The Technioal Education Act, and "The Free Education Act" (loud applause), "The Coal Mines Regulations Act"— all these are Acts parsed by the present Government, but they are unimportant; they do not excite they are not sensatienal, and therefore not fitted for these very Radical Governments. What they like is • Disestablishment of the Church." The revolu- tion of a constitution—something startling, some- thing of the fire-work character (laughter). But for the good of the country, it is this sort of social measures that do most good, and effect the most good to the people. And these are the subjects which a Government like our own Conservative Government, who will not pander to these sensa- tional matters, have time to turn to those matters wr10^ r6iP the nation generally. That is why they have done so much more in this way than Radical Governments who have been in power and who have taken up time in sensational legislation (hear, hear). I believe there was a meeting here a few days ago, and in opening it the Chairman (Mr. Muspratt) said he would like to ask him (Mr. Pennant) two or three questions. I was not present or I could have answered them then. But what the Chairman of that meeting meant, was, that I should answer them at the present meeting. One of the ) questions was" Did I propose to give to Ireland, local wovernment, such as is given to the counties of 'England and Wales?" Well, most certainly. I thought that it was the first principle of a Unionist Government that Ireland should be on exactly the same footing as the rest of Great Britain. And, why I always fancied that the object of Mr. Glad- stone in his Home Rule policy was, that something different was to be given to Ireland than was in- stituted in Great Britain that for some reason or other that which did exist in Great Britain was not good enough or too good for Ireland. But what I thought was, that what was good for us in this country was good also for Ireland. Though different countries, still at the same time, we should be one as far as Government is concerned one as far as privileges are concerned, and one in every respect as far as laws and legislation can make us. That is the very essence of the Unionist policy (applause). The next question was "Whether or not I was in favour of Disestablishment ? I should like to ask Mr. Muspratt a question on that, which; I fancy would be a poser What do you mean by Disestablishment ? Describe it ? I will answer the question. What he does mean by Disestablishment is, I suppose, what was brought forward in the Radical programme some years ago. The same remains to- day. What doeB it mean ? Let me give a definition. Undoing the establishment; therefore to get it, means disestablishment. It means this, that there are certain rules and regulations that apply to the Episoopal Churoh that are embodied in Acts of Parliament, and those Acts cannot be altered with- out the sanction of Parliament. If Disestablishment ocourred it would be the repealing of those Acts of Parliament, and then the Episcopal Church would be entirely free from the control of the State. It is a question for the citizens of this country not so much for the Church itself, whether it would be a good or bad thing. But I have no doubt when Mr. Muspratt was talking of Disestablishment he also meant Disendowment. That is a totally different question. He means by that the money, the funds, the revenues, which in earlier days were distinctly given by individuals for the purposes of promoting and maintaining Christianity in this oountry. Should they be given for secular pur- poses, such as secular education or the mending of the roads of the country ? Now, what I say is this, that what was given for the maintenance and pro- motion of Christianity, you have no right to take away and use for other purposes so long as it is re- quired for those purposes to which it was originally given (applause.) And I further say tins, that it is clear that there is not too much money devoted to these purposes at the present time, or we should not have these continually recurring bazaars and Christmas trees and all kinds of dodges for raising money for benefiting these purposes. The third question he wished to know was 11 How it was that I bad always been speaking so much against Free Education ? Now, that was I might call it, a shot in the dark (laughter). I will undertake to say that he never heard, or ever saw printed or written of any speech of mine that I said a single word against Free Education (loud applause). From the very moment in 1870 when compulsory education was first introduced I have always contended that after compulsory education came free education was bound to follow (hear, hear). If the State say to a parent "You must and shall send your child to school," the State was bound to take care that there was a school to which the child could be sent, and so long as the State did not n. :<.)•: e provision that when the ohild goes to school it was not freely admitted but was turned back if it had not its pence with it. Then I say the State did not make proper provision in the cause of compulsory eduoation. That is the policy I have always held and believe it to be the right and true principle upon which to act. Some people may say, how is it that compulsory education having been given in 1870, and completed and made universal in 1876, we have come to 1891 before free education followed." The answer is very simple. Free education to Govern- ment costs two million of money, and that is the reason why we have had to wait so long for it. It is necessary that you should have an able Govern- ment in power, who could find the two million of money before it would be passible to give free education (hear, hear). It might have been given by paying an extra tax, but then that would hardly do. You could scarcely tax the people to pay for free education. No, what was required was this, that you should have able financial ability in the Government, so that by their good financial arrangements, and by their increasing the credit in the country and confidence, the revenue would inorease. Then free education could be given without adding any taxation in the country. That is what we have had at the present time (applause). It was without adding a single penny taxation that the Chancellor of the Exchequer gave Free Education to the country, that cost two million of money (cheers). It was owing to the able financial ability and able administration by giving confidence to the country that increased the credit of the country and inoreased the revenue and so enabled free eduoation to be given (hear, hear). Now at the present time I don't think there is any more interesting subject connected with the whole politics of the country than the general question relating to labour. We see throughout tue whole world at the present time that there is a general feeling that the workingman has arrived at a certain stage, at which he is in a position to say that he should have more leisure, more time for attending to other matters except the mere business of his labour (hear, hear). You see of labour at the present day people are beginning to recog- nise this fact, that labour is not mere manual labour. There is something behind the mcra working of the hands, the legs, and the arms of the body. It has something to do with what is in the brain, the mind, the spirit of the man. The value of labour in not merely the value of his muscles. It is to a considerable extent the value of the brain that works those muscles. Still, if that be eo, and if there be such a thing as two ways ot doing labour-a skilful and a clumsy way of doing it, then does it not necessarily follow that good work- men should have opportunities of doing something besides a mere strengthening of the muscles of the body that he should have some time to improve the brain, the mind of the body. We have seen this movement spread throughout the whole world, and not in this oountry alone. About two or three years ago there was an important congress at Berlin, in which the Labour Question was discussed from the different points of views of representatives from all the countries of, the Continent. Sir John Gorst was sent to represent this country at the Congress. He has I suppose given more attention to the Labour Question than almost any present member of Parlia- ment. He is a very old friend of mine, and promised to come and speak in these boroughs sometime before the general election (bear, hear). He woulel no doubt speak to you on this subject with very muoh greater authority than I do, but still for all that he has inoculated me to some extent with his know- ledge. And I must say that of all the questions I know of, this question is the most important and most interesting. You see to get an article it requires first of all that there must be a certain amoanc of capital, a certain amount of machinery and then the labour to be done in order to produce the article. If you want to get a thing into the market, you must produce it as cheaply as you possibly can. You must therefore spend as little as possible upon each of the three necessaries to produc- tion. And the way you are to make the article at the cheapest rate, will be that you must all work together and save all friction and save all waste. It seems to me that in all labour questions that is what you have to oonsider. How can you get these different elements to work most smoothly, so that at the least cost you shall be able to put your article into the market, whatever it may be, at the lowest rate. If you raise the article in price above a certain figure, you lose the market; if you bring it down you gain the market. All the production represents a fixed expenditure. Now, if you can make these things work smoothly so as to get your article at a lower fixed rate, yon do away with a certain amoant of expense. And who will got the benefit of that? Capital-it must have a certain ainonnt or it ceases to exist. If capital does not get what is absolutely necessary to attract it, it will go off into another country. Machinery wiii cost something. Every year improvement is made in machinery in which I include the facilities for conveyance of articles, and the reduction of the cost of transit. The consequence is that without raising the price of your articles there is more left for number three in the three causes of production, namely labour. The more smoothly you can make all these things work the less friction there is be- tween capital and labour, and the greater and more improvements there are, in what I may call the maohinery part of the basiness, the greater amount there is for labour. Now what does the labouring man say at the present time? He says this-" We feel that the skilfnl labourer can do more than clumsy or unskilful labourers. We feel that the man untired can do more than the tired man, and therefore we say and desire that a reasonable re- duction in the hours of labour should be made, so that we may be able to put our beat energies into our work during the time we are engaged in it" (hear, hear). Now there are two wavs in which this suggestion should be brought about—this re- duction in the hours of labour. We have been going on some years with Trades Unions and Federations of Employers, and the advantages of those federations has been that there has not been that waste in the shape of strikes and lock- onts which there used to be. Things work more smoothly and why ? Because working-men federated themselves into Trades Unions and were more able to deal with those questions in a business-like way. Now it is proposed that a bill should be passed called the Eight Hours Bill. I do not know whether it has been drawn out, but it is talked about. Such a bill was proposed during last Session of Parlia- ment and I have no doubt that bills of that kind will be presented again. What has been the action of the Legislature on this question up to the present time? You will remember that years ago Lord Shaftesbury and the Conservatives took up the question of working in mines and the hours and ages of children employed in mines and other indus- tries, and subsequently the question of women labour was dealt with. As regards men there had been no legislation of this character excepting where the life and health of the subject is concerned. There is a Royal Commission sitting which is taking evidence from all parts of the country on the ques- tion (A Voice: Except the chemical trade). I think it is mentioned as within the scope of the Com- mission—(hear, hear)—and if you will allow me to say so, that those who are connected with the Chemical business they would do right to write to the Secretary of the Royal Commission and say that they were ready to give evidence on the Commission —(hear, hear)—I should be very glad to give the gentleman who made the remark the opportunity of oommunicating with the Royal Commission. I am quite sure of this that compared with many trades and businesses the Chemical trade is so far as health and labour is concerned one of the most critical that can be imagined. I think there is one practical step I should like to see carried out. At the present time the Labour Question is divided between three offices in Government, the Home Office, the Local Government Board and the Board of Trade. Now in the name of common sense would it not be much more satisfactory if they were collectcd into one offioe and have a Labour Minister with a Seoretary of State for Labour, and I should like to see as the first minister Sir John Gorst (hear, hear.) It is well known that this subject the present Government looks upon with consider- able favour, and if they gave them another trial of power, they might see the inauguration of a Minister for Labour (applause). Mr. V. J. Hussey Walsh addressed the meeting, and also other gentlemen. The proceedings ter- minated with votes of confidence in Mr. Pennant as a candidate for the Flint Boroughs, and thanks to the chairman and speakers.

LLANASA. TALACBE ESTATE RENT-DAT.—Mr. Isaac Taylor, the worthy agent of the Talacre Estate, attended at the Red Lion Inn, Llanasa, on Wednesday, the 27th ult., to receive the rents due. According to the usual custom upon these occasions a large number of the tenantry sat down to an excellent dinner, which had been got up in the very best style by the new landlord-mine host Edward Jones. The preparation of the dinner had been entrusted to Mrs. Jones, Mostyn Brewery, who is well-known for her cuisine abilities, and the prime joints which were so ably got up, were provided by the veteran purveyor, Mr. Robert Jones, Penymaes, which is a criterion that the meat was of the best quality possible. Mr. Taylor presided at the dinner, Mr. Cartwright, V.S., occupying the vice-chair, both gentlemen acquitting thems 1 .• s of their duties in a very happy manner. The tenants, and indeed the inhabitants of the neighbourhood in general, were glad to hear that in a short time the worthy baronet of Talacre will, with his most estimable lady and young family, take up his abode in the ancestral home of his forefathers. + —

DENBIGH. SVPT. VAUGHAW'S PRESENTATION. —The presenta- tion to Supt. Vaughan, on his promotion to the rank of deputy chief constable, from the officers and men in his division, took place on Thursday evening at the Talbot, where the men were entertained to a capital dinner by Mr. Vaughan, and well supplied by Mr. Cooke, the worthy host. In the absence of Mr. Vaughan, from illness, Supt. Jones, Llanrwst, his successor at Denbigh, presided, the vioe-chair being occupied by Inspector Jones, Ruthin (to be promoted to Llanrwst). After dinner Inspector Jones presented the chairman, on behalf of Mr. Vaughan, with a date case, barometer, and clock combined, whilst Sergeant Jarvis presented the dressing case.

KINMEL. Sir Thomas Lewis Hughes Neave, who made his debut in the political world last week by addressing the Conservatives of Amlwch, is only 17 years of age, having been born on the 27th June, 1874. His mother is a daughter of the 1st Baron Dinorben (Hughes), of Kinmel Park, Denbighshire consequently he has Welsh blood runniug in his veins. The Barony of Dinorben became extinct 10 years ago.

RHYL. CONSTITUTIONAL ASSOCIATION.—The annual meet- ing of the County Organization was held on rhursday at the Westminster Hotel, when Mr. Pennant was re-elected president, Mr. Bate, reasurer; Col Hore, secretary and Mr. T. W. Qughes, registration agent. Other business also was ransaoted, and there was an influential attendance. yv

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RAILWAY TIME TABLE. | FEBRUARY, 1892. w CHESTER AND HOLYHEAD RAIDOWMLWAY, TBAINS. Sundays. HOLYHEAD AND CHESTER RAILWAY.—UP TiaA.TNO. gmmLTs. 0DS0Ji,m am a,m a,m l,aAm ,V° l £ -I!h Pm pm p-m 'a pm 2 £ i p.m, p.m. p.m a.m. a.m a.m p.m lhavk a.m a.m am a.m a.m a.m a.m a.m P-m p m. p.m p.m p.m p.m p.m p.m, p.m p.m l am a nTTiiTDm- CHESTER 2 386 30 ,.|8 45 ..10 0 1143^ 30 3 10 5 5 5 10 g ;6 10 g. g, 8 33 8 45 1116 2 39 9 35 1115 6 0 HOLYHEAD. i | | 7 45 12 0 *S 3 15 6 0 .7 8 5 5 45 liToi 8 5 Sandycroft 6 41 8 56 1154 3 21 5 21 g g a g 8 5611126 9 46 6 10 Bangor (dep).. 6 0 18 0 j 9 0 1045 ,.19. P 4 25 7 14 9 3' 7 0 1232 9 1 Queen's Ferry. 6 45 9 0 1158 3 25 E b 25 91 33 g « ..9 0|ll30 9 60 6 15 Aber 6 10 | I 9 10 1055 1 19 1* 4 35l 7 24! 7 » Connah'sQuay. 6 50 9 5 12 3 3 30 5 30 8^,6 2Gjru p2 ..9 6J1035 9 55 6 21 Llanfairfechan.'6 15 8 16 9 15 11 0 1 25 -tj .4 411 7 311 7 14 I Flint 6 57 ..9 12 1210 3 37 5 372jjj6 33 I q, 9 12 1142 10 3 6 29 Peiimaenmawr. 6 21' 8 21 9 21 11 6 1 32 3 4 49 7 38' I 7 20 Bagillt 7 2 917 1216, ;3 43 5 43 a | [0 >t 918] 1148 108 6 35 Conway 6 31 !8 30 9 31 1116 1 43 n o 4 59 7 60 9 26 7 30 1 3' 19*26 HOLYWELL.7 9 9 22 1223j ,3 49 5 50 g« 6 ..9 25 1154 1016 6 42 LlandudnoJun. 6 38' '8 3f j 9 39 1125 1 51 -f 5 8 8 0 9 34' I I Mostyn 7 17 9 30 1231 |3 6 6 A 5 51 » 3< 9 32 12 1 1024 6 50 ColwynBay. 6 49| •• 8 46 9 52 1135 2 3 Jj «s* 5 20 8 13 I 7*411 18l Prestatyn 7 28 9 42 1213, a |4 8 6 7 |.S 7 1 2 Q 9 9 9 42 1212 1036 7 2 Colw^n. 6 64! j 9 67 1139 28. » "S 5 25 8 18 7 Ifil RHYL 3 187 37 9 50 1040 1251 3 13 4 17 5 47 6 15 8 ?|7 10,2 2 9 16 9 50,1220 3 18'l04« 1164 7 9 Llandulas 7 2 I 10 4 1147 2 111. g I 6 35 8 28,I.. 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