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MR OSBORNE MORG AN AND THi BISHOP u]; ST. ASAPH. WE have been asked by t Dean of St. Asap1 to publish the following eonesponderiee whici has recently passed between him and Mr Osborn Morgan, M.P.:— "The Deanery, St. Asapb, April 6th, 1891. Dear Sir, observe, with surprise, in .you article in the current Dumber of; the JS'in?teent/ Century, the following statement abuut tin BidiOP of St. Aseph :—' N-.t-Ioug ago i.e pluogoc into an undignified newspaper sqtubble as to til* financial position ai d solvency of one of th< Welsh Calvinistic Mettio<:ifetfcj/ I must as.sucat that you took pains to verity the accuracy of I persGlHd statement of this kmd before publish- ing it. I am not, however, awure that thE Bishop of St. Asaph has ever made in a news- paper or elsewhen: the remotest reference to tin financial position and solvency of one of tht Welsh Calvinistic Methodist^ As youv informa- tion both about ne^sptipers and about, thE Bishop of St. Asaph is appnrently more extensive than mine, may i venture to ask you to give tut the name of the newspaper to which you refei in your article, the <l»!e "t the supposed uu- dignified newspaper squabble,' and tile name 01 *oae of the Welsh Calvimstic Methodists, whose 'financial pos-tiun' aad solvency have been called in question according to you by the Bishop of St. Asaph ?—1 have the honour to remain your obedient servant, J. OWKN. "Tbe'Right Hon. G, Osborne Morgan, M.P." 50, Green-street, Gro>venor-square, London, April 8, 1891. Dear Sir,—I only received your letter this morning. The sentence v-hicii jou quote from my article contains a printer's error, which I did not notice till the review was published. As I wrote it, and as it ou.du to have stood, the words were As to the financial position and solvency of the Welsh Calvinistic Methodists." The words "one of" slipped in in this way. I had originally written as to the financial position —of one of the leading Welsh Nonconformist bodies. I struck out ail the words which I have underlined in order to insert the words which I have given above, but the printer seems to have retained the words one of." thus giving an entirely different meaning to the sentence. As goon as I discovered the mistake I wrote at once by tha next post to. all the newspapers which were likely to notice the article, asking them to correct the mistake, and I will take care that as much publicity as possible shall be given to the correction. The newspaper in which the con- troversy to which I alluded was originally carried on was the Oswestry Advertiser. As I do not file that paper I cannot at the inataut give the date you ask for, but J have written for the information, and hope to supply it to you in two or three davs —I am, yours faith- fully. G. OSBORNE MORGAN. The Very Rev the Dean of St Asaph." 59, Green-street, Grosvenor-square, "April 11,1891. Dear Sir,—I am now in a position to give you the information you ftsked for. In the second week of November, 1889, the Bishop of St. Assph delivered a lecture on the Church ;n Wales, to which, after stating that the adherents of the Calvinistic Methodists in the Principality had decreased, be asserted, anmng other things, that the chapel debts had increased by leaps and bounds.' This statement led to a correspondence in the Liverpool Mercury between the bishop and a correspondent of that paper, as to the financial position of the Welsh Nonconformist bodies generally, and ot the Calvinistic Methodists in particular. It was carried on in the last week of November, 1889, about a fort- night after the de ivery of the bishop's lecture. This correspondence or a portion of it was copied in other papers, including the Oswestry Advertiser, which accounts for my having inadvertently stated in my hurried letter to you of the 8th April that it originally appeared in that journal. The bishop's charge against the Nonconformist Deacon,' to which I referred in my article, was made at Oswestry on the 4th September, 1890, and appeared in the Times of the following day. Th" hishop's letter, referring to his seven sworn affidavits in the matter (to which I also alluded) nppeared in the same paper on the 4th December, 1890. You will have seen, perhaps, that the Oswestry Advertiser and the Wrexham Advertiser have corrected the clerical error to which I referred in my last letter. I have also corrected it inallcopiesof the review which I have been able to find.—I am, yours faithfully, W II G, OSBORNE MORGAN. The Very Rev, the Dean of St. Asaph. The Deanery, St. Asaph, April 14ill, 1801. Dear Sir,—I thank yon for your two letters. It is unfortunate that sucii a personal reflection was permanently placed on record in the pagea of a review of the importance of the Nineteenth Century without greater care on your part in the correction of proofs. "A printer's error, however, is not. the only error in the statement »?hic!> I quoted from your artieie. Your letters show that you did not have either the date or the no me of the newspaper in which the correspondence which you criticised appeared. A perusal of the correspondence will show you that your description of the matter and manner of the correspondence is in- accurate. According to your cjrrected state- ment the subject of the correspondence was th« n-uiMcial p-osition and solvency of the Welsh Oilvi! ist:c Methodists,' and you go on in your second let for to add 'of the Welsh Noncon- i'orai !.«• hc/'iiei generally.' You will discover if *ou w:U !fer to the Bishop of St Asaph's letters in the Lio-rpool Mercury in the last week of Kovembur. lt-89, that, the bishop in these letters made no reference to the finances of any Welsh Nonconformist body besides the Welsh Calvin- istic Methodists, that 1I., said nothing at all about the solve cy of this denomination, and added nothing as to their "financial position' to his Truro statement beyond merely giving briefly his Authority for that statement from their own official documents. It. is altogether misleading t J describe financial position and solvency' as the subject of the correspondence. As you made the statement in your article from au evidently unverified ncd mist iken im- pression of the matter of the correspondence which you criticised, it is not surprising that your impre-sion of the style also of the letters is equally unreliable. In fact, to any one who read the correspondence, your account of it must be altogether unintelligible. <. You introduce in your last letter a matter upon which, as a Welshman, I would have been j glad, if you had allowed me, to be silent, viz., ttie sworn affidavits submitted to Lord Selborne for his opinion. As neither you nor any one else call in question Lord Selborne's capa- city of thoroughly sifting and impartially appreciating evidence, his published opinion is a sufficient guarantee that the Bishop of St. Asaph was not misinformed about the intolerable excesses of the tithe agitation— happily, in this particular iorm, rare and utterly alien to Welsh reverence-which it was his boundt'n duty as bishop, in the interests of religion, to rebuke. As there is every reason to believe that this appeal to the reverence of his countrymen made the recurrence of such mad outrages for the future impossible, I am sorry that you thought it necessary for your criticism of the bishop to revive the memory of these painful and exceptional stains on the high religious character of Wales. As I have not observed any public correction of the printers error from yourself, and as I am not aware that more than two out. of several newspapers which notice your article corrected the error,! shall take the liberty of securing greater publicity fur the correction of this and other errors of your state- ment about the Bishop of St. Asaph by sending next Friday our correspondence to the press, together with any further explanations which you may wish to make. I have the honour to remain your obedient servant, J. OWEN. "The Right Honourable G. Osborne MorjanJ M.P/' M The House of Commons, April 15th, 1891. Dear Sir, —I thank you for your letter. I, of course, can have no objection to your publishing our correspondence. Indeed, I should feel grata- fui to you if you would do so. I still think that if YOil will look again at the correspondence to which I referred yon will find that my version of it is substantially accurate. I am sorry I referred von to the Osioestry Advertiser instead of the Liverpool Mercury; but I spoke from memory,! and wrote in a hurry, being anxious to clear myself of any imputation of discourtesy on account of any delay in acknowledging your letter, which arrived during my absence from London. I cannot, however, think that my reference to the journal in which that corre- spoudene.e was copied and commented on, instead of that in which it originally appeared— especially as it was at once corrected—is a matter of much moment. Still less am I able tc appre- ciate the subtle distinction which you draw between the financial position' and the 'solvency' of the Calvinistic Methodists. I should have thought that one involved tlia other. "With regard to the other and far graver; matter, to which I referred in my article, I beg you will not understand me as meaning any reflection on Lord Selborne. But I absolutely decline to accept the judgment of any man, however distinguished, which is based on the er parte, statements of • witnesses' who have been subjected to no cross-examination, whose names and addresses are studiously withheld, and whose evidence (if such it can be called) can, in the absence of any clue to their identity, ] be neither tested nor refuted. I am happy to think that my views on this subject are I;red by many persor.s whose views on ecciesnxsi ieal subjects are diametrically opposed to mine, and I feel pretty sure from the tone of your letter 1 that you can have no idelt of the injury which such charges recklessly made and persistently repeated are inflicting on the cause which you so nbly advocate. Kindly include this let'er in the correspondence which you propo-e to pub. lLh, and believe me. yours faithfully, "G. 08BORN15 VfO.'cGAtf. The Very Rev the Dean of St. Asaph. P.S.—1 will endeavour to get the printer's error to which you have referred corrected in the next number of the Nineteenth Century." "The Deanery, St. Asaph, April 17th, 1891. Dear Sir,—I thank you for your letter, and am glad you have no objection to the publica- tion of our correspondence. Your ignorance of the date and mistake about the name of the newspaper would not have called for notice were it not that they clearly prove that you undertook to criticise the Bishop of St. Asaph's letters after a year and a half, without, verifying your reference. I can- not allow that, having placed yourself'at this s-'rious disadvantage, you were fortunate enough to give a substantially accurate' version of these letters. The distinction betweeu 'financial position' and 'solvency'—be it subtle or obvious is not mine but your own, as I cannot suppose that y our phrase, Financial position and solvency' was mere tautology. Of 'solvency'—whatever you understand by the term—the bishop in his letters said not a word. The 'financial position of the Welsh Calvinistic Methodists' occupies only 23 out of 217 lines of his two letters in question. In the face ot these two facts, it passes my comprehension to under- stand how you can suppose that you gave a | substantially accurate' account of the bishop's letters in your article. ''I find, as I expected, that you do not question Lord Selborne's capacity of thoroughly sifting, and impartially appreciating evidence, Lord Selborne considered the sworn affidavits submitted to him ample evidence to justify him in saying that there was 'very sufficient ground for the bishop's statement made at Oswestry, 4th September, 1890. I fail to see how, in the face of this distinct and weighty judgment, you can nssert. that the bishop's statement ;{as 'recklessly made witbcut casting at the same time the same offeusive reflection upon Lord Selborne's published opinion. Lord Selborne and the bishop came to the same conclusion from the same evidence.—I have the honour to remain your obedient servant, J. OwKN. The Right Hon. G. Oi'borne Morgan. M.P. "PS—I am sending all the correspondence to the press by thi.s post."

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