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I mR, SAMUEL MOSS, M.P., AT RHOS. I ADVOCATES AND THE TEMPERANCE QUESTION I ,,IV INDICTMENT OF MR. < CHAMBERLAIN w,eting in connection with the Rhos ?-auci&tion was held in the Public Hall, t..1o.:r. on Wednesday evening last, to hear an address 0.. S Mo?, the member for Eaat Denbigh- ironl Il' u,ing also ?""?Md that Mr Ellia J.  h M r' "°°? apea.b. Mr Moss, who was tllt:1¡ nicd bv his wife, was met at the railway *L n n bv L?? R°°? Silver Band and ? number of ,dt.-I, ? ,I?e A-sociation. Hna w'n escorted to the :f:;i" ,'n:l-,u>!llt"tic crowd of his Hnpportera.the I \?n:??''? "elecLÏons ell route. The chair at the rH u.rl. :"J pg i'*J,T W IS J,il* £ ca by Aid. B. Hooaoa, chairman of ?'? .i? wf ?kea by Aid. Ji.. Uooaoa. cba.irma.n of I tb?t A?scctation, and he was eupported on the ?.?rn. '? ?t'' S Mosd, MP., aud Mrd Moss, Rev. lat Qrm u R b u E H h ?- H Jcll, R. Ro bert-, R.v.E.Humphreya, 3!;L IL11. Rev. E.-?a WiUi.ims, Mr Benj. r. M-.r? Honse, Mr F. R. Campbell, Johns- :I<lrn'd :\1. J os.ph Rogers, secretary of the ¡.On. -,l't'IOII The hail was crowded. I .)¡, h d th t ?be ?h?'?'°' at ?? outset, announced that a 1 I I .d been recÚved from Mr Ellis Jones l.nn h i?Lh "?'" ?'o"?°?' expressing regret that in con- c,rlI¡h ,,¡ hiil attendance at a .neetmg iarthe Qence b M H ^iropilis lie was unable to be present. Mr Hooaon I jl<¡rl)) n *hort addœss, whkh was well received, ..dncedMrMose. :dnce ¡u. )r M"?" "? ?? cordially greeted. At the outset fl AI] Hl'Oml;er thanked the electors for doing him Ul Ie b. d. .'t hofo"r ? retnrnia? him uncppoae d and referred ?'?i? c..r(]it!"y of the reception ?ven ;o him that 'bt He W,IS convinced that in spite of the low ?I I 1' 1¡;'cra'!lOm in the country, the demonstration \h? .\c!'?'? was quite enough to show that Pi i r^rn.i-"1 *2a,"t Denbighshire, was as it was in J .??na of Wales, not affected by the gia.moar jj ?war or ?'? ??'? ?'?? i"6uea raised in recent elctlOn8. '.EJir'?- ?' Mo« "nid before de&hng with the ft topic abont which ha proposed to speak that a k. -?ar)M like to r,f?r to the great loas J I rhi ich Li!bera)i'?min thIs district, and more especially ,trest of labour had sustained through the death I U ihos. Williams of Penycae. He (Mr Williams) -??nrEsent at the executive which adopted him (the itKcrj for u,e ^ecoud time as their candidate, and '\ll occa^ had shown himself to be a stalwart ^-•rjru*r of the miners whom he represented, and t ol Liberalism generally. (Hear, hear.) [Dt' u- h.1 of ]Slr Moss a vote of condolence tiie whole audience rising from their ,,a,ts,Lo the widowa.ndfa.milyofMrWitiia.ms.] There now, tin- iioa. member said, two personal qnes- t' t: v nasto vbichne should like co refer. It was in f Tue quarters more insinuated than suggested was apathetic 111 his action respecting on the behalf of the miners. He might [hAi tfct miners 1" 1118 constituency had had his -tcoufi ivi-iition. Even at the meeting of Welsh at the beginning of the very last Session of I'lrlittm■ i't. he declined to be bound by any resolu- ■i"v a farcan.-e lie told the Welsh members that he at 'ritowus pledged to one subject, which was first iui forenm^t with him as representative of East rjt.abigh-'h re, aud that was the eight hours day for r" ) 'I" :lline¡3 1. pplttuse. The miuers' agelt was present the Ucaae of Commons at the time, j kiK-w that he (Mr Moss) ballttted for Getting for the biii a hrst place. H^wcaid de, exactly the same thing at the beginning -i the cluing resfeion, and he did not think any of ;ce miners !eaders, who were well acquainted with ui iino ilis voice on the subject, would have any U,lN?hatev,r ?H to his attitude and conduct on all ?'rcd'te-?io?st'tfectiu? the interest of the miners ?-'?iscuat'ty. (Cueer?) There w?s another matter ch b? mc?t r&fer to, which waa luore or less nn- r'?-?Q? to him to speak of in public, because it dealt j?b hi" pr??saioual conduct. He referred to the cu h" held as counsel in inatters L Meeting the ieiuptrance qUi stion. Well, he had very firmly but Tei*v'rcsF'etifnlly to say, respecting his professional tl that ne thought it was somewhat outside -pl>iie of the interference of hiR friends. (Hear, :e"r. But it was all very well and very proper for ;'le: to understand what the true position was. Hj iisixed that ui^ht to be as sound n the que3tion of t=iiip-rince anr uian in the constituency. He ;,lJ DU! "ba.LU.l ùl1t: Jot c,r tJt.tle of the principles of t-ipcMiice in or out of the House of Commons, and heknesthe temperance cause would find in him a. stern isj unfl uchiug =npporthr. But in his professional as an advocate in the Courts j like other counsel, had many privi- bnt they also had many duties. trained in the law, his profession told him fas run-t look upon all men as equal in the eyes the law, and that ev,ry citizen who demanded his Ar-i^taiice upon legal questions had a right through L-IiL-tor to obtain the services of counsel in any ;L ?d&: anv court in which the counsel might nee. If the Temperance Association or bodies ?n:r?d his s(;nic", and he had not been retained uise ether side, n w.? hia duty, it he did licensing at all. to accept a retainer and hold a brief for v Tciuperanee Association. (Cneers.) If, on the ::Illr baud, a licensee or a brewer,or any other meii,.b.zr of tiic public interested in licensing retained :Ii" icivicfa b. tori, the Temperance Association then cc %vitz ia tir Laniid hiF i ti accept Cr iu nr bound by hie profession to accept I L ziincr, or iiuiu a b:dt. e-n t'il-ir b- "LLlf. I-, might £ = -aid that this was inconsipten,. with the prin- ciples of the temperance reformers. Those who said ihrit mixed up a client aul the occupation of the client iCiiaers.) It was immaterial to him, as it ought to be iEinateriftl to the doctor or the tradesman, what the .•Ji:,i» or the politics uf individual clients might be. A | cbiiiuii ii.id n. right under the existing law, and 20 coun-el who did licensing work conld honourably rcin-e to iiecert a brief on behtilf of such a publican, idci* he htI.Dened to be retained on the other aide. Bv taking a brief from pcblicacs h3 no more idtiitified him-elf with the views and calling of the publican than when he defended a man for murder or iur rape he identified himself with his crimes. No end could characterise a lawyer as unfavourable i-:mrLrtince, because he was professionally engaged CD khalf of the brewer or publican. Ilia views on the temperance question remained as :i:, were, ar.d on all occasions he would do hia best -nppori it. (Cheers.) NDW coming to the present political situation, why, :hc hon. member asked, did they have an autumn ,Tycal to the country ? As he had said in his address. ;¡c;ch had been circulated amongst them, the origin :i tt:E be just or unjust, but for his part he iaous-ht if the negotiations bad been in the hands of *• other persons except Mr Cnamberlain and Mr ¡¡:r:ger there would have been no war—(hear, hear)- 1 might be tht DO one except the historian of u future csnld rightly nay who had been responsible the terrible war iii which this country had been lim bed. Why, agiin, did they have an election at a Laie when the Government mo jority was one of the =:i;-jst in modern tims, and when there were still two ■rars life for Parliament to run ? The Conservatives •Ai Leen teliing them that the appeal was made to :ik= the views of the cor.utry upon the war. (A But the retl reason for this election ne had Baid before were not far to seek. They as obvious as they were disgraceful. Uncon- K.inuonal in spirit, they were at the same time isteditable to the Government and unjust to the :orate, Wbiie foiiowiug a course for which no p:;edent existed in hiatory—a course scathingly ■ :ijr.uced by the great Tory leader, the late Lord -s;oriBiieid—they had not scrupled to deprive toda of electors of the country of their votea 7 h they would shortly have posseted on the new *-C:-ts.-r. The war the:- were told again was began to r ttie Oatlandera the franchise. The Government's in allpealling to the country when they did Probably disfranchised in this country more electors than there were Outlanderi I both Republics put together. (Cheers.) was this done ? The fact was Mr Chamberlain !:Jt Wíiut the new electorate. Why did he not ,;11tH the soldiers came home and let them have Because he knew full well that when they home, and after the enthusiasm of thi3 inflated t4»:oiism had died down, they would liarc a tale to it, hUnt lh< ancient weapons they possessed against "t Manser ritles of the Boers, and about Ladysmith left in the lurch without gnus. Why, bnt for L,avury and plock of Captain Lambton, who went ¡ ^tttl with guns from his warship and rescued our  C?d knew v;hat wonIA have happened to our j 'ivfc men sdering in that terrible siege. Mr '-inrcbii-lain knew that these revelations and •fjt'iaosa in connection with the hospitals- would place if he waited for the troops to come back, d that was why he preferred an autumn election. in yta, it was a Brnmmagem" trick, but the day reckoning would come. And who had b,rt,filtiiian by this war ? Chamber- Chamberlain the man of many ;-&panit:3 aud many colours. (Laughter.) not a laughing matter but a very ;r-"Ui thing that a man who sat in the House of 'aiuiOLis, a Minister who should be, like Cessar's wife, rs.picicu, should be connected with six or -iit companies which were sneaking Admiralty and r Government contracts. These were questions have to be raised on the floor of the ¡;.t: of Commons. Proceeding, Mr Moss asked "!kt thc- Government had done during the past five to benerit the working classes ? There was a. 'ss-fo!rl test jf a good Government. The first was "lit aid it co-it, and the second, what did they get for 'Jrlt nioney Well. last year the Conservative -rnuitnt spent 128,590 000 more money than the .:r"viou3 Liberal Government in their last year. had the working classes received for this extra ? Had they had anythiDg iq the form of the ■ !^IQ to which they were entitled He had lieaitation in saying that they had not. They had '<én promised a great deal, but had practically re- -ivfcd nothing, whilst upon the other hand each ■Mainct: they came into office, the Government had rf-i" dealing out doles to the landlords, the parsona the privileged classes generally. Though ?.n?iy for the benefit of the farmers,  re6L!!y had a!! the a d vantage r..o:d really had all the advantage the Agricultural Rating Act. It  be said by same that the Government, at any ?lte. had done somethirg for education. But what ^•■-it? They had given a substantial sum to the ^Wished Church through the Voluntary schools, ? thus thrown direct insult in the teeth of the "?sbpe(?e. (Hear, hear.) Continuing, the hon. =?bM anid th?t until they swept away from the .?atryct&sa privileges and vested interests, they .?d never have legislation on thorough pcratic lines, and they must end to the House Commons men who would make up their minds 'L.tthe parson and the landlord must stand on the pedestal of cifzenship, and that whatever they  be as citizens, and not as privileged persons? \V °en tbut was done they would get equality of i-, and not before. Regarding Mr waberlain's old-age pension acbeme—of which llJ" '-a.s h M d 'vaa now hf-ard—Mr Moss characterised it l??rely a trick for popularity, which ws ?'_aenced by the fact that Mr Chamberlain ,ectn?y abandoned it when it bad served his ? P?t- and actually said, in face of what  pre\'1uly averred, that he never from a .anythiriCT, bnt only made propoIB. Bion, the hon. member said they might rely npon it the conn try would never do any good until it went back to the policy of Cobden and Bright, and gave up the present bloated Imperialism. England's greatness was thegreatneq-j of the character of her people. (Hear, hear). Righteousness exalteth a nation." Just as our individual character built up our national character, so our national character, if it Jeaned from righteousness would go wrong- (Applause.) The Rev. Evan Williams moved a vote of con- fidence in Mr Moss. The Rev. R. Roberts seconded, and it was unani- mously carried. The Rev. W. B. Jones subsequently delivered a short address, in which he condemned the action of sending soldiers to Bethesda in connection with the qnarry dispute, and expressed admiration of the con- duct of the men. The meeting terminated with the usual votes of thanks.

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