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WELSH NATIONAL CONVENTION. T? -♦ • meeting in connf" ?ion with the Welsh 1'1 0 .1 r,. ,C' I I I ?tio''?' ?.?vcnti?'u. at Aberystwyth, was a general :St!.UiJl¡-; ?,? North Wales LIberal Federation, to ?E!? constitution for the proposed jon^e* draft, constitution for the proposed Jn5:dc'11: Je;a.tion, to determine the future position t' I, ¡' d ? [;.e Federation. an d to prepare pro- anti  to the W clsh Di?cstabhahmentBiH po-i^l4 1 to the Welsh 1 )isestablishment Bill i°''  tiie Convention.— Mr Thomas Gee, Den-  ? .?? ?(?p). e egatL's present were \;p!>ri:e. 1U' Kev. J. Machrcth Rees, Mr '?; ??. Owen Owen, Oswotry; MC5SU J. T. .t))- I).u.ir) Kee=i, Carnarvon William ?'? T, ?'?' I ?:'n'r??'' = ? ? Hughes, Liverpool Wm. 1>(1' ,ji' Liberal candidate for North Curn?r- ?"??. -\nhe?? J?'ber'M. Festiniog; E. Bryan, fM)-?.  ii ? (?vrncth Yan?hftn. Hanbcris Dr. JUIK-S. Dol^t lley and Mr Beriah G, Evans, E  Jun?. Do!? i?y Md Mr Beriah G. Evans, secretary. .jriTi^lY binary discussion took place as to the  .n of the 'nf?rencc. several of the gent!e- complaining tis:U though members and !JI. ??. J.'c :era:'on they had not received tho j?.)?.t-? "1 d 'I t. "'? ?? ? attend.—The Chairman an d Mr :1' 1 iV *Kvan.« expl:lmed that this w?s due to the  n .i t i' f ] secretary, Mr Ij!ewe!yn .i%n.-iti»>n of tho secretary, Mr Llewelyn *a" ?).?: t;onc.-ib?<l been sent to all th0"c ?.?? ..?s?L'rc supplied by the late secretary. —?r '? ?.t ?' f ?-rv.;n'd s said th?t their business ".1,'l' .f"1,' said that their hU,' -n'l',o.;lid"r ? scheme for the formation of a 1', J Federation. to consi d er the draft \i?'!t; P. deration. to c?n?ider the dr&ft :j. a:ul »!so the Welsh Disestablihment _;1,: It \I":l meeting not for speech making but 1',1 ?.)ih<' work.—Mr hœ then submittsd the f'r ?? ?"' constitution seriatim.—On the con- P.?"'? OF :h" first cl?u? to federate al1 ei"tinrT '1' ,'r:. 1 1 1. ,1 ,1 b -LI r:l'- mt'ona. and kindred associations ?'? mi-atii >n for tha furtherance of We!sh '1)" 1 J "??"?' .'?c.-is. r. L: wJ.rri June; Dolgdlcy s?id n 111",1.. l' "}' II 'htt i??- h.td i? Meiion.ihshire one of the best .'j ?:u'.i?ti'?sin the country, and they did !1'); .V.iiii' t' .?''?on It. () I,r, hear.) They were !lfO' V? tha:change would be for the worse, and flh '0> nL' -r:?- '?ttcr. A Tory majority of 40 in 1853 no; l f t J I ;?S? transferred into a Jjiheral majority of '?'??)j.:u)'!th(-y )H?ribnteJ that change to the ,!en1:.1 "? ?'c?e there, and they did not T^'t nttJP'i that organisation in jeopardy, though at ?))' time they '?ere anxious to take advantage  power there might be, and especially in J.! "?- They were strongly in favour of  .;t" the active co-operation d tht young. bu .:r.i? that amalgamation with the Cymrn Fydd ?,?. \t:?cn .m? no: strengthen their positinn. If 'l'f¡¡I!tC'11t could he rc?crv-'d for the Merioneth- ? -?-o':i:).t??n., something might be done, but he w afraid that there was too mnch centralisation int-and-(hied re?nhl.tt?ns ?bont the scheme.— nyj i :oyd Gcor?t' -?Lt that he entirely areed with Df I 'nes. The .Merionethshire Association wm a and ?f other associations h?d been as > :1: the present association would not have ?; The point raised up by Dr. Jones wo?ld crop .t. lie was q'lite of opinion that the freedom ;i LX> as",ocintion, sbùu!d be safe-guarded, and ■ I ,c-ti :'n really was not whether they should but on what conditions should theyfederute. ,.v. ht-.ir.l—The Chairman said that while there w ni l he accnml organisation there would he free- for !oca) association j.—Mr A. Roberts ?'mn?' ?skcd if they were in a position to settle h an iinport?nt matter. The conference W)M & v t-v -r.i.i'i one. :ud this qncstiQnshou:n be decided v'n he:ive wisdom of all North Wales :],er-il5—The Chairman said that every publicity i ?)e!?'cnt"t??"'???"?' and If the v.irion? "\cj ,-jnns had "'? ??"? delegates they ?]one were ),i.?" ?'?? 't ?"?t he t".?s? for granted that they .)"ri?i the proposals that they arrived at that "■ Ihd ?'!r K?bcrt? object to the paragraph ia n"_?? H t'H.): ?Ve arc not the proper bodr ?'\?-i.?ri?. We are supposed to represent the "?.j?Y??.sLibcr?t Fefhi.ition.—?Ir D?nie! Rees ?? i? hn? h? n i'.ppointcd to represent the Carnar- I ?.r:? Association, and if th?t wMnot a meet- '?.'i'f'ht' Nth 'Yale" Liberal Federation, what was 'rtj?t,nh'-rslt?ci faded to attend was no argn. I I' 1 1 '1'1 ?j? ,he meeting should do nothing.—The other 5-sf-soI t h e Federati on, as f?now:. were then cou- It'j" of he F",ler:LtJOll, ful!w. were ,then COll- dr"J M? ?r""?'?? °? ?(?)  e5t!bhsh for ¡¡, ..y' puvpore branches of the Federation throu?h- • Walt-, and in every centre where a Welsh  \dt: ?"d in every centre where a, Wetsh -i 'r it ion exi-ts.—(c) To promote t c BaCIa 1 inter- ?'?-f''of the Welsh people in other p?rta of tho :d to provide for them a direct connecting link ,1: ?. ano of their fathers, and to afford them the ?r?ricr.itv o! associating themselves with move- :IJ: lenthn? to the advancement of national '? -??a .t h??'e.—<d) To conserve the national jviJ?h:v of Wales.—(ei To ecure legislation for W coB?iv. d with a. due regard to Its D&tioQ?l Mirations and its special needs and cir- •TMtacccs. — (Ii To obtain a national system t; Pelf government for Wales, — (g) To Djl:1:.le the political, social, industrial, and •ineuioTial interests of the people.—(h) To BDuote the return to Parliament of members piedge'il w support tiie policy of the Federation, and requested to do so by local organisations to i,ist constituencies in the selection of Parliamen- ca"ndidates.—li.l Tq bring the claims af "Wales I •lie notice of electors of the United Kingdom, i' iuuentaiy candidates, and members of Parlia- ai-"it' to organise the Welsh vote iu centres outside VVVes Mi? t" undertake, where necessary, a pJat- ?t? ca? ft? f"r t?s exposition and advocacy of W -i-.h q?e-u?ns.—tk' To 11ÍoIe the principles of the Fi ederation in th, election and administration of <ci'oof Bj?.r?. intermediate and university authori- 'it'? cor.ntv. iU-t?ct, p.tri?h. and municipal councils, Md o:h? pnM:c h0di" in Wales.—?) To promote the work of registration and other matters in- iidi-nt to the objects of the Federation.— :1:, To preserve the Welsh language, foster t'. • estivation of literature, art. and music, SMf.iar.tge the founding of libraries and the forma- ti..a of a national museum, and ensure the preserva- liDii of national monuments and antiquities.—(n) To ■.3-operate with other kindred associations in tho it amotion of any of these objects.—On the question if forming I ranches of the Federation, the nev. hchdh Ktes moved an amendment to provide fonnlly for tiie inclusion of all existing Libaral, sationnl. and kin-ired associations in the constitu- hou. lie tiionaht that would meet the point raised by Dr, -lone?.—Ur. Jones said that his association must irivt a Ferarnte existence.—Mr JJeriah G. Evans said iiat the existing county aKsociations wonld become disaict conneils. and no branch could be formed without its sau-.tion.—The Chairman thought they wore too mnch afraid of the Cymru Fydd League. It would be b-.tier for them to be a little more har- ■Kini-iu?. and to endeavour to weld their forces thought the best policy- was to keep the Cymru Fydd Leauge dis- tinct. ami aiikc it an organisation for young people.— Mr LI. yd George seconded the amendment.—Mr DrtiUeHltts aevocateil the fusion of the two forces. The sepirc.e existence of the bodies would probably lèJ to", kind "f chapel split in every village.—The Chaimun said they hop jd the antagonism of the two koires wonld die out under the proposed constitution, —MrOwtnO-e:i thought a branch association should beall-iwe-1 to adopt any name it liked, but there .J,r!.1 b no conflict in the same area.—Mr Iieriah C. Kvans that the Cymru Fydd as an organisa- woulti be swallowed up by the edera- tifft, hnt all exwting societies would be recognised as »rlucks. The ainendmeut was then ngretd to.—Mr '•wen Owen. Owestry, suggested that the word iO' alitx, s i often used in the rllle, honld be defined, for nothing was more important in ■satters of organisation than the exact description of tieas.—It was felt, attei' a. discussion, that it would be inexpedient to enter into too great a. detail, and ifcioltuicn was passed.—The Rev. Maehraeth Iiees, IVuygrot-si. objected to the 15th October as the last dl1 for tolling the arnnal meetings of the branches, *nd movca tluu tiie date be the 1st November, and this was agreed to.—M r Uoyd George declared as '■'practicable rule 9, which provided i'or the payment -3 the central fund 6J per member. lie moved M tUiimc-ndaient that tho executive council should each Teu liiako an estiinate of the expenses of the ensuing f«;1[, and issue a lew accordingly upon the divisional ■ jnticils. WilH resolved that every branch should p:»r to the divisional council a fixed sum according to Ihe number of its members.—Mr Daniel Rees, Car- ■ arvon. cr,n^i:k-red special precautions should be ¡:Lt(!1 against numing into debt, and it was pointed that this would be covered by the fact that the before its final adoption, would have to be ^nfinned bv the divisional council.—On the motion ¡h Kev. Marhruth Rees, it ytaw arranged that the "tecutive cotuinittee should consist oi two repre- •ciit itives elected by each of the divisional councils 'rom its own body.—Mr Lloyd George moved that t'i« representation of branches of the national conven- tion should be in the proportion of one repreaenta- for every 100 members, instead of one very 25, which would be impracticable.— zi Jjiverpool delegate pointed out that national ■iiveiitions should be demonstrative of the popular and therefore the representation suggested in tile draft was not at, all excessive. The conference resolved that the representation he in the proportion If one representative for every 50 members. CYMRU FYDD CONFERENCE. I At seren o ciock in the evening, a conference was aeld in the same room of the Cyinrn Fydd League, md the attendance far exceeded that of the after- noon gathering. The chair wa occupied by Coun- :¡!lor E. Thomas (Gochfstrf) of Cardiff and among those present were Mr Lloyd George, M.P., Mr (barrister), Mrs "Wynford Philipps, Mr I. 11. Cleaton (London), Rev. G. Tecwyn Parry ~>lmberis!. Rev. TIJwyn Jones iGarnant), and others "h? WeT" present ?t the former meeting. ihe Chairman, in npciun? the proceedings, said .a, at the Cymru Fyad movement came from the People and was believed in by the people of Wales, ■pplause. Withont antagonism to any existing Po.itical ?ystem, he always made up his mind to give u-lherenee to the movement that was nearest the i'ple. The great need of ivales at present was more P°htitnl knov.lcdf.'e. The people were willing to work .i,r be led if only they were pnt in motion and en- The eat deficiency of the ldlUary L,beral associations was that they failed to 'le touch with the common people who were J n!'l i witting for promised reforms. He had great in the future of the Cymru Fydd, which was "il:" up work neglected by other bodies, and he Kpon them all to do their utmost to make movement successful in the various districts, applause.) 1 ne sticks of the constitution were submitted in Llieiarne ?ianner as at the previous meeting. a.nd the .I" Nvere unanimously ?*?d to. r??d to founding Welsh libraries, the Chair- ? reined th?t last yeM between ?8.000 and ?.OM ??.?h of Welsh bocks had been in the "??? and W?es had not ? penay set apart for P hasing them. Ha was glad to know that the 'P'endid f ibrary of Sir Thomas Philipps had been ,?.thvb.rJohn?ViUi?ms?nd that it was more ?n U?Iv that some time or other it would find i?ts ?Y to some Welsh institution. Slrs W,.n??FhUipp3, delegate from the wW-ell^sh ['Pion of Women which has a membership of over ,100, ¡Upl)rted in & vigorous speech ? proposal *0 add to tho objects to secure for women eqns.1 rights of citizenship with men." She contended that they should have moral and social as well as political ideals. It was not true Liberalism that wanted anfranchisenient for one sex onlv. Mr Gwyne Vaughan seconded, and Mr Lloyd George, M.P., supported the resolution. Miss Gee, of Denbigh, thought that women's suffrage was not a sufficiently distinctive Welsh question to be placed in the list, and she moved that the proposal be post- poned until the Convention. Mrs Davies, of Man- chester, seconded the amendment, which was sun- ported by several other speakers. Mr William Evans, Liverpool, s&id th-it they wanted a pure as well a.s a united Waleg 8, owards that object thev should secure the- nj.oration of the women. Alrs Gaunt, of Cardiff, said that the Women's National Union was willing to work with a na.tionn.l body of men, but only on condition that women's enfranchisement formed a plank in the programme. On a vote being taken tho proposition was carried by a large majority. The remainder of the draft constitution was briefiv discussed, and the provisions generally were adopted. In the evening the delegates attended a reception given in the Old Assembly-rooms by a local com- mittee, of which Councillor D. C. Robert is chair- man. I SIR G. O. MORGAN, M.P.. ON THE DIS- I ESTABLISHMENT BILL. Sir G. Osborne Morgan, M.P.. has addressed the following letter to the chairman of the Convention:— "Grand Hotel, Alassio, Italy, April 17th, 1895. Dear sir,—I much regret that my absence on the. Continent during the recess will prevent me from attending the important conference which is to be held at Aberystwyth this week. I sincerely trust that the amalgamation scheme,' which the Conven- tion is primarily called to discuss, may be passed with such amendments n.nd modifications as, after due deliberation, may commend themselves to the meet- ing. But as I understand that it is also intended to consider the details of the Disestablishment Hill. I venture to add a word or two on that subject. Of course, no one wishes to curtail the legitimate discus- sion, either in or out of Parliament, of a measure of such vital importance to every Welshman, and there are certainly two or three chances which, personally, I should like to see made in the Bill. But having said this, I must add that I think the fewer amendments moved from our side the better. The Opposition make no secret of their intention to wreck the Bill by 1 smothering' it in Committee. They have already put several hundred amendments of their own down on the notice paper, and they would eagerly fasten on any amendment of ours as a peg on which to hang interminable and irrelevant discussions. I have great faith, too, in Mr Asqnith. He is thoroughly in sympathy with us, and is the first English statesman who has grasped what I may call the Welsh view of the question, which is more than can be said for every one even on our side.—Wishing you a very successful gathering, I am, vours very trulv, G. O. MOKGAN."

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