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SIR WATKIN'S CAMPAIGN. THE SAME SPEECH.—"ANOTHER EDITION." SIR ROBERT CUNLIFFE ON THE IRISH QUESTION. On Tuesday evening a meeting in connection with the Ruabon Constitutional Association was held at the National Schools, Ruabon, in support of Sir Watkin Williams Wynn's candidature. There was a fair attendance. Before the meeting commenced a short concert was held, Miss Cox, Cefn. Mr Pumford, Mr John Griffiths, Mr Liitlehales, and others taking part. Mr LLOYD said he had received a letter from Mr Owen Slaney Wynne, who was to have presided, stating that he had been laid up with a slight attack of congestion cf the lungs, and was forbidden by the doctors to &0 out into the night air. He trusted the meeting would be a most successful one. On the motion of Mr LAYCOCK, Mr Thos. Jackson was voted to the chair, and amongst those present were Sir Watkin Williams Wynn, air R. A. Cunliffe, Mr Morrish, Mr J. S. Laycock, Mr T. Owen Churled, agent for East Denbighshire, and Mr Llfcyd. The CHAIRMAN, in briefly opening the meeting, said although they were not many in number, btilllhey would try and make that meeting a friendly one, and a sort of conversazione, instead of the chilly kind of things political meetings weie as a rule. He proposed the following resolution:—" That this meeting of Ruabon Unionists desires to express its confidence in Sir Watkin Williams Wynn as the Unionist can- didate for East Denbighshire, and pledges its hearty support to his candidature at the approaching general election." Mr MORRISH seconded the resolution. He said that one of the reasons why he supported Sir Watkin was because he had thown his practical sympathy with the total abstainers in trying to remove some of the temptations which beset the Ruabon people as well as others, in the facilities for obtaining diink. There were very few landlords who would close a public house which they owned, but by refusing to continue to allow the Cross Foxes to be a licensed house Sir Watkin bad bhown his sympathy with the people of Ruabon. He was only expressing a general wish when he said that he wished Sir Watkin had some more public houses in his hands, in order that he might deal with them in the same way. There was one matter, if he might be allowed to mention it, and that was that the people of Ruabon would be more pleased if h9 saw a little more of them than he did. He was quite sure if Sir Watkin could spare a little of his time in order to see more of the people of Ruabon, to see their wants and alleviate their dis- tress, as he knew he would do, there would be formed a bond of union between the House of Wynnstay and the people of Ruabon which nothing would be able to penetrate. (Applause) The resolution was carried unanimously, and SIR WATKIN, in replying, said he was very much obliged for the resolution which they had just pessed. If they considered him a fit and proper person to re- present them in Parliament, he was sure he should nave great pleasure in doing so. (Hear, hear.) It was always a pleasure to him to meet his friends at Kuabon, and although there was not a very great number present, they knew that Ivuabon was not a very large place, and it was also an inclement night. Still he thought that those present were nearly all voters, and those were the people they wished tu speak to. (Applause.) The question for them to decide was whether they were going to support the party under Lord Salisbury, which was at present in J office, or the party under Mr Gladstone, which desired to turn it out of office. If they looked at Lord Salisbury's government during the five years he had been in office, and ii.quired whether hehad governed the country in the way an Englishman should govern it, and whether he had fulfilled his promises, they would find he was a man of btrict integrity, and that he had governed for the good of the country and the people. They knew him best as a foreign minister, and he believed that even his opponents were almost unanim. ous in saying that he was one of the best foreign ministers they had had in modern times. (Applause.) That fact alone he thought should sommend him to them. (Hear, hear.) They depended in a great measure on their foreign policy, and let them look at the state of affaits while Air Gladstone was in power, and the state of affairs during the time Lord Salisbury had been in power. During Mr Gladstone's period of office, twenty miilions of money were spent in silly little wars, which did not bring them one penny- worth of honor, glory, or advantage. During the five years Lord Salisbury had been in power, they had not spent a penny. He thought that was a fact which all the electors should look at. (Hear, hear.) At the present moment they were at peace with the world, and were respected by the world. (Hear, hear.) Egypt was the only place which was troubling them. The Opposition had raised a cry that Egypt should be abandoned. Lord Salisbury said he would do so as soon as he could, and it must be remembered that Mr Gladstone went to Egypt, and not Lord Salisbury. (Hear, hear.) If they acuttled out of Egypt now they would probably undo the work of the last ten years. Let them finish the work they had undertaken. (Hear, hear.) By Lord Salisbury's policy confidence had been restored, and the result had been that trade had flourished and prospered. No individual Minister could actually form or make trade. but he could do much to make trade either good or bad. As they knew, the trade of the country depended principally upon the large capitalists, and unless these men put out their money the trade sf the country could not flourish, and they might depend upon it that capitalists would not invest their money if they had no confidence in the Government. (Hear, hear.) During the five years Lord Salisbury had been in power 37 millions of money had been knocked off the National Debt, and the expenditure had also been decreased. The income-tax had been reduced, and several small taxes had also been reduced, such as the tax on tea, tobacco, and currants. Local taxation had been greatly reduced. The county and police rate was now 2J in the 2, whereas five years ago it was 5j or 5id in the 2. (Hear, hear.) Ever since he had had anything to do with politics there bad been a cry for the reduction of local taxation. The present Unionist Government had done it, and he thought credit was due to those who had done this, and not to those who said they were going to do it. (Applause.) Referring to Ireland, Sir Watkin said that the chief thing Lord Salisbury did for Ireland was that he picked out the right man as Irish Secretary. (Hear, hear.) A greater success than Mr Balfour had never been before the country. The way in which Ireland had improved under his rule was something extra- ordinary. Crime had decreased to an enormous extent, boycotting having disappeared almost entirely. (Hear, hear ) Mr Balfour was also the mover in the relief of the distress under which Ireland had been suffering. In addition to the works which he got Parliament to start in that island, he asked for con- tributions and the people of the country voluntarily subscribed 1:50,000. (Hear, hear.) He (Sir Watkin) thought that the voluntary subscription of EW.000 for the suffering Irish people was the greatest testimonial to Mr Balfour's administration. (Hear, hear.) Sir Watkin then referred briefly to the Free Education Act and the Intermediate Education Act. In con. nection with the latter, he said he should like to mention the fact that on January 16.h they had a most important meeting at Ituabon fcr the purpose of raising money to improve their Grammar Schuol, in order to meet the requirement of the Intermediate Education Committee. He must remind them that intermediate education had been a cry for some years past, and he did hope that now it was an accompished fact that it wou!d not be a white elephant, and that when the people were asked to subscribe a certain amount of money, in order that the requirements of the Act might be met, that they would de. (Hear, hear.) After touching upon the Local Government Act, Sir Watkin asked the meet. ing to compare what Lord Salisbury's Government had done with what was called the Newcastle pro. gramme. He had not the programme before him. but if he remembered aright, amonest other things, the House of Lords was to be abolished, and members of Parliament were to be paid. What good could those things do to the people of the country ? (Hear, hear.) If they could get people to stand for Parliament without asking to have their expenses paid, what was the use of going about seeking people who wanted their expenses paid ? (Hear, hear.) There were, and every credit was due to them, a certain number of labor members in the House of Commons. (Hear, hear.) He thought most of them would agree that it was neces- sary to have two Houses of some sort. There was no legislat'on which had not two Houses. He quite agreed that a little reform would do no harm, but reforming and abolishing were two different things. (Hear, hear.) In 1885 or 1886. he (Sir Watkin) very well remembered a Last Word," which Mr Osborne Morgan issued, and what it practically amounted to was that those who voted for Sir Watkin Williams Wynn voted for Mr Parnell and the Irishmen. Within six weeks from issuing that Last Word," Mr Gladstone said he must have the Irish vote, and Mr Morgan at once turned round and voted with Mr Gladstone and Mr Parnell. (Hear, bear.) Mr Morgan aaid the other day that be never changed his opinions, but he thought if a nan could change his opinions within six weeks simply because his leader [ did so, all be (Sir Watkin) could say was that he was not fit to represent a constituency. (Hear, bear.) Were they going to vote for a man who would say that whatever Mr Gladstone did he would vote for it? (" No.") For himself, be had no ambition to be re- turned to Parliament. He had plenty to do, and would be much happier amongst his own bricks and mortar. (Laughter.) Still he believed that they could not always follow their own desires, and he thought it was his duty. (Hear, hear.) Some. one must represent them, and if he was elected he should be glad to do eo. Applause.) He believed he should have their support, and that he would also be largely supported in other parts of the constituency. (Ap- plause.) If he was elected, he went to Parliament to represent them-to vote for the beat party, and not for any leader. (Applause.) He asked them to think most carefully over what they were going to d*. Do not let them vote for Mr Morgan because he was Mr Morgan, nor for himself because he was Sir Watkin, but let them vote for the man who was likely to support the party which would benefit the country at large. (Hear, hear.) In concluding, Sir Watkin said he felt thoroughly convinced, if the people would only look into what the Government had done during the last five years, that they would wish it to go on for another five years. (Applause.) Mr r, OWBN CHARLES next spoke, and read the fol- lowing letter, which he had just received Highbury, Moor Green, Birmingham, December 26tb. SIR,—I have received with pleasure the copies of resolutions passed by the Unionist meeting at Minera. I am glad that your organisation is actively promoting the discussion of political questions, and trust that you will have a successful demonstration on Tuesday, when my fr end Sir Robert Cunliffe is to address you. Toe general election cannot be far distant, and it will be one of the most critical in the history of this count-y. If, as I hope, the advocates of Home Rule are defeated, I .believe that this mischievous policy, which will then have been twice emphatically condemned by the people of Great Britain, will have received its death warrant; and, in that case, both the great parties in the St tte will be free to devote themselves to the consideration and settlement of the urgent social and political questions in which the majority of the people have the greatest interest. If, on the other band, the Separatist party succeed, many years will be wasted in the barren effort to find a scheme of Home Rule which will be satisfactory to Irish agitators, and, at the same time, acceptable to the people of G eat Britain. During the whole of this time the pro- gress of all other legislation will be stopped, and England. Scotland, and Wales will have to wait outside in the cold while the unreasonable demands of the noisy section of the Irish people are being attended to. I am convinced that the only chance for the speedy satisfaction of the legitimate claims of Welsh Noncon- formity is to be found in the defect of Home Rule. Every Welsh Dissenter vt ho votes for a Gladstouian at the next election votes, Firetly, for the indefinite postponement of Welsh dis- establishment and land reform. Secondly, for the creation of a Roman Catholic domina- tion ;n Ireland, which will be dangerous alike to the civil and religious liberties of the Protestant portion of the population. Thirdly, for the desertion of his co-religionists in the Province of Ulster. Fourthly, for civil war and anarchy in Ireland, and for the absolute sterility of English and Scotch legislation. I feel strongly as a Radical and a Nonconform st that the continued alliance of the Gladstonians with Irish Catholic" and Home Rulers is fatal to the progress of all reforms in which I am interested, and I therefore earnestly de "ire the SUCC-JS of the Unionist party.—I am, sir, your obedient servant, J. CHAMBERLAIN. T. Owen Charles, Esq., Brymbo, Wrexham. Sir ROBERT CUNLIFFX then spoke. He said he would begin by referring to the very interesting letter which they had just heard from a man of great dis- tinction and courage, who was now practically accepted as the leader of the Liberal Unionist party in the House of Commons. He had read in the Standard that day that Mr Chamberlain was now practically accepted as the successor of Lord Harting- ton in the House of Commons. The present Duke of Devonshire would, of course, continue to lead the Liberal Unionist-, but Mr Chamberlain would act as his lieutenant—and a most able one too-in the House of Commons. The letter was one which would com- mand the attention both of those who agreed and those who disagreed with Mr Chamberlain. (Hear, hear.) As Mr Chamberlain pointed out, if the Gladstonian party returned to power at the next elec. tion, they were bound to place Home Rule in the front. The Irish party—what was formerly Mr Parnell's party —would in all probability come back to Parliament seventy or eighty strong, and Mr Gladstone could not afford to quarrel with it. (Hear, hear.) Sir Robert pointed out that if Ireland received a separate Par- liament, Scotland with e(su-11 justice might claim a Parliament. Then if Ireland and Scotland had a Parliament, he was inclined to think that Wales should have a Parliament. Finally, thete would be an English Parliament and thus there would be four Par- liaments and over all an Imperial Parliament. Well, if they came to break the English constituency to pieces in that way, they would not do it in a day. (Hear, hear.) By every constitutional meanp, they would oppose such a scheme. (Hear, hear.) As Mr Cham- berlain said, everything would have to give way to Home Rule. Mr Gladstone would not be able to carry his Bill through in one, two, or even three ses- sions. Even supposing that Mr Gladrtone got a scheme which would satisfy the Irish members and his English, Welsh, and Scotch followers and passed it through the House of Commons, which was granting a great deal, then it would go to the House of Lords. There were a certain number of people who said that if the House of Lords opposed the Bill, they would get rid of it. Now, he entirely agreed with Sir Watkin in what he had said with reference to the House of Lords. In every country which had repre- sentative institutions in the world, those institutions were copied from the mother of Parliaments—their ancied Parliament. The United States, the freest Republic in the world, had a second Chamber called the Senate and it was stronger than the House of Representatives, the lower House. In France, there was also a second chamber. (Hear, hear.) Sir Watkin was therefore right in say ing that they must have a second chamber. He did not deny that he should like to see some reforms in connection with the House of Lords. (Hear, hear.) It was said that the House of Lords had no business to oppose what the pople wanted. That was quite true. It was the duty of the House of Lords not to oppose the clearly expressed will of the country, but they had got to be quite sure that they knew what was the clearly expressed and deliberate will of the country. (Hear, hear.) The advantage (f a second chamber was to be able to say, Gentlemen, will you think over this a second time." and that was really what the House of Lords did when it threw out a Bill. (Hear, hear.) If a Home Rule Bill was passed through the House of Commons, he hoped the House of Lords would throw it out, because it would give the people time to consider it again. If then there was a second election, and the people again said Yes, we are prepared to have a second Parliament in Dublin," then it would be the duty of the House of Lords to pass it. (Applause.) Nobody knew the pro. visions of the Bill for Home Rule which Mr Glad- stone meant to bring forward, and therefore, even supposing Mr Gladstone got a majoiity to-morrow, and passed a measure of Home Rule, it would be the duty of the Houae of L"rds to say, This Bill has never been explained to the country, and therefore w: send it back to see what they will do." (Hear, hear ) But if the opposition in England would be strong, the opposition in Ireland would be stronger. As the late John Bright had pointed out, there were practic- ally two Irelanda. There wait the suuth and west, which was Catholic, and Protestant Ulster, with nearly two million people out of the entirepopulalion of five millions. Those people loathed the idea of Home Rule-of being placed under a Catholic power in Dublin, which would be dominated by the Irish Catholic Bishops, Nearly all the wealth and all the great industrial undertakings were in Ulster, and the majority of the intelligent sitisanei and workmen were to be found in Ulster, and they could well think that these men would rather fight than be governed by such men as Mr Dillon, Mr O'Brien, and Mr Healy. The main reason against Home Rule was the very natural objection to the character of the men, who would be the governing men of their Parliament. He (Sir Robert) sat opposite the late Mr Parnell aad the Irish members in Parliament for years, and the impression upon him and upon Mr Osborne Morgan —he well remembered at the time—was that those men were not to be trusted. (Applause.) That was the opinion generally entertained by the members of the old Liberal party, and he should never ceasa to regret that, owing to the change of opinion of the leader, a portion of the party changed their opinion with him. (Hear, hear.) Whether in public or private life, the late Mr Parnell showed that he hpd few scruples, and after the proceedings iti-.the Divorce Court there were some very fierce quarrels amongs the Irish members. Thei Union of hearts," o which they had heard so much, came to grief alto- gether in Committee Room 15-(Iaughter)-and there were revelations in the excitement aljld heat of the moment which v. onld not be readily forgot ten, and did not tend to increase the respect in which the Irish members were held in the country. (Hear, hear.) In 1886 Mr Gladstone stated, as he (Sir Robert) believed in all sincerity, for he was always sincere, that in his belief the Home Rule Bill was the final settlement of the Irish question, and that it wns accepted as a final settlement by the Irish members. No Irish member contradicted him, but when they got to the squabbles in Committee Room 15, Mr Parnell stated, and it was not denied by any of the Irip-h memberp, that when he brought them the Home Rule Bill in 1886—some of them evidently thought It did not gu far VtjvUgla- he had pointed out that the Bill was a Par- liamentary bid and nothing more. The country never knew that, but it was quits clear from that statement that the Irish members took the Home Rule Bill for what it was worth anil as a vantage ground from which to squeeze more. (Hear, hear.) He should like to point out to the Noncon- formists that in 1887, a very important deputation, representing the Nonconformist ministers of Ireland, came and presented an address to Lord Salisbury and Lord Hartington. The address, which contained a strong appeal to these distinguished men to do all in their power to prevent a measure of Home Rule for Ireland being passed, was signed by 864 of the 990 Nonconformist ministers in Ireland. He thought they might sum up the Irish question in the words of Mr Bright, who when speaking—he beliove(i it was the very last speech he made-in May, 1886, said I believe a united Parliament can and will he more just to all classes in Ireland, than any Parliament that can meet in Dublin, under the provisions of Mr Gladstone's Bill." (Applause.) With that as a last word he left the matter with them. They knew Sir Watkin as a man who would give them a straight. forward opinion upon any subject, and if he entered Parliament he would represent all classes and all interept-, and he believed would faithfully do his duty to them. (Loud applause.) On the motion of Mr J. S. LAYCOCK, a vote of thanks was accorded to Sir Watkin and Sir Robert for their speeches. Sir ROBERT CUHLIFFE replied, and proposed a vote of thanks to Mr Jackson for presiding, Sir WATKIN seconded, and it was carried unanim- oUAlv, Mr JACKSON replied, and said their thanks were also due to Miss Cox, of Cefn, Mr Littlehales, and others, who had helped them to paaa the half-hour before the meeting commenced. The meeting cloeed with the singing of the National Anthem.

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CORRESPONDENCE. TROMBONE—Your complaint, we notice, r£1ate8\ to a aHde trombone, and ludging by your I ? pseudonym there is no suspicion of your freedom from bias, The better course would be for you to write direct to the instrumentalist who has so offended your sense of the fitness of things.

WELSH-SPEAKING COUNTY COURT I JUDGES FOR WALES. SIR,-It is somewhat amusing to find that the I Lord Chancellor has obtained credit in some quar- ters for a disinterested desire to conciliate Welsh public opinion, by his recent removal of Judge Beresford from the Mid-Wales Circuit, and the appointment of Mr Lewis in his place. Permit me to point out that, in taking thst step, Lord Halsbury was simply obeying the letter of a resolution of the House of Commons, which by some strange accident, seems to have been lost sight of in the recent discussion on the subject. On the 8th of March, 1872, I moved the follow- ing resolution in that House:—"That in the opinion of this House, it is desirable in the interests of the due administration of justice, that the Judge of a County Court District, in which the Welsh language is generally spoken, should be able to speak and understand that language." The debate occupied nearly the whole night, and fills 24 pages of Hansard." Mr Hanbury-Tracy (now Lord Sudeley), moved to amend this resolution by adding the words:- As far as the limits of selection will allow." The amendment was accepted and the resolution withdrawn in order to admit of its introduction. The resolution as amended was afterwards carried nem con. and now stands on the Order Book of .the House of Commons. Memories in political matters are proverbially ahort, but resolutions of Parliament have not yet been reduced to waste paper; as the Lord Chancellor would most assuredly have found next February, if he had not forestalled a possible vote of censure by a prudent and and timely retreat.—I am. SLC., G. OSBORNE MORGAN. 59, Green-street, Grosvenor Square, Dec. 29th, 1891.

I THE UNIONIST MEETING AT ACTON. SIR.-In your issue of December 26, under the heading Unionists at Acton," I see a statement that my tenantry were convened here by the Secretary of the East Denbighshire Constitutional Association, on Tuesday, December 22nd, for the purpose of meeting Sir Watkin Williams Wynn. As the information that has reached you is quite misleading I must request your permission to correct it. A meeting of the Committee of Sir Watkin's sup- porters in this neighbourhood was convened, andheld here on the day named. On the list of that committee are several of my tenants, but as it happened not one of them was able to be present on that particular day, and of those who attended none had any other connection with me except that of being neighbours and feliow Unionists in politics. I must ask you therefore to be good enough to give as conspicuous a place to this letter as to the paragraph in question.—I am, &c., I R. A. CUNLIFFE, j I Acton Park, Wrexham, Dec. 31st, 1891.

I WREXHAM STREETS. I SIR.-My short disclaimer of Hugo's" letter has fulfilled a line of poetry composed by the late great poet, Trefor Mai," viz :—" Cicio nyth Cacwn," or in English, Kicking a bee's nest." It seems it has taken a company to compose that small censure upon me. Poor fellows I wonder how long did it take them to compose it ? Their letter all through smells like jealousy-perhaus to. wards the newly-appointed foreman, as I do DCt remember that there have been any complaints made previous to this about the state of our streets. If that is what this company are aiming at, I cry shame, and they deserve to have their frontispiece well rubbed into the mud they hate so much. Every man has to learn his trade, and no doubt in time the foreman, who has so recently been appointed, will have things worked properly. If these haters of mud wish to write any more upon the subject let them remove the mantle of disguise and come out like men, under their proper names.-I am, &c., H. ROWLANDS, Chemist, &c., Bridge-street, Wrexham. I

THE PEARL CASE. I SIR,-As several statements have appeared in the public Press respecting this case, ;which might seriously injure our reputation, we shall feel obliged if you will kindly allow us, in justice to ourselves, to correct them. Tha facts of the case are these. The portion of Mrs Hargreave's jewels purchased by us for JE550 were vaiue d by hersel were valued by herself at not more than 9800, which, taking into consideration that they were second-hand articles, may, we venture to think, be considered a fair price fdr us to have given. The sum of f5,000 which has been erroneously applied to the jewels in question was the value which Major Hargreave (in evidence at the recent trial) placed upon the whole of his wife's jewels-plainly a very different thing. We should like to add that the report in some of the morning papers of to-day that ite are prosecuting Mrs Odborne is not correct.—We are, &c., SPINK AND SON. 1 and 2, Gracechurch-Btreet, Cornbill, London, E.C., 28th December, 1891,

I TECHNICAL EDUCATION. SIR,—I should like to call the attention of work. men and of others engaged in local industries to the advantages to be obtained by undergoing the examinations of the City and Guilds uf London Institute for the Advance of Technical Education. These examinations could be held in Wrexham under the auspices of the Science and Art Com- mittee, which, with scarcely any expense or trouble to itself, could thus promote some of the objects for which it was formed. Silver and bronze I medals are given to those candidates who attain a particular standard of merit, and in some cases money prizes also. The examination is in two grades—(1) ordinary, and (2) honorary. Every intelligent workman ought to be able tu liauts the first of these two examinations. Among the local industries, relating to which examinations are held, are the following:— Bread-making, cas manu- facture, iron and steel manufacture, tanning of leather, dressing of skins, photography, brewing, plumbers' work, carriage building, printing (topography), lithography, mine surveying, milling of flour, carpentry and joinery, and brickwork and masonry. Besides the written examinations, which may be held anywhere if only a suitable com- mittee for managing them be in existence, there are also practical examinations, held at certain centres only. Now, it is obvious that a workman, seeking a situation, would stand a better chance of getting one worth having if he had a certificate than if he had not. But even if he could get no certificate, the mere striving to obtain it would not only make him a better workman, but would add that flavor to his daily avocations which would render those last a delight and not a burden. Should anyone desire further information, and will write to the secretary of the Guilds' Institute, Gresham College, London, for a syllabus (price 6d), he will be able to obtain full particulars, including all the questions set last year. A copy of this syllabus will be shortly presented to the Free Library, Wrexham. ALFRED N, PALMER. I 19, King-street, Wrexham.

CANON WEST AND MR. OSBORNE I MORGAN. SIR,—As reported in your columns, Mr Osborne Morgan, M.P., stated in the Brynteg Schools, Broughton, that the Church of England, as by law established, was as much the creation of an Act of Parliament as the County Council of Dcubigliabiro." Having seen the report of that statement, I asked Mr Morgan to name the Act, or Acts, of Parliament under which the parishes of the Church of England were formed by which the endowments of the various, separate, and in. dependent parishes were given; and by which the constitution and that branch of the Holy Catholic Church which is found in this land was estab- lished." In order to bring the matter to proof, I offered to pay the sum of EIO to his election com- mittee the day such proof of the creation of the Church of England by Act of Parliament was pro- duced by Mr Morgan. I am delighted to see that Mr Morgan has ventured to reply to my challenge, and to abk for the reward, but am surprised to find that one in his public position should name certain Acts of Parliament which have regulated matters pertaining to the Church, but have no reference whatever to its creation. Your readers will at once perceive the difference between creation and regulation. The Church of England for centuries existed before the statutes Mr Morgan refers to were pasaed-before Parlia- ment itself existed. Of this Magna Charta is sufficient proof The Church of England shall be free, and have all her rights and liberties inviol- able" (1215). This charter preceded even De Montfort's Parliament by 50 years, and is nearly 350 years before the earliest statute Mr Morgan quotes. The Act I Eliz. cap. 1, 1558 (which Mr Morgan calls 2 Eliz. 1, 1559, and by which he says all jurisdiction over estates spiritual and ecclesi- astieal was vested in the Crown) has as its title An Act restoring to the Crown the ancient juris- diction over the State ecclesiastical and spiritual, and abolishing all fcreign power repugnant to the same." If Mr Morgan will look at Sir William Blaokstone's Commentaries, Stewart's 23rd edition (Stevens, 1854), p. 555, he will find that eminent lawyer's opinion of the reformation of religion under Henry VIII. and his children to be different from his own. To him there was co creation of a new Church, but, at the term implies, a reforma- tion and restoration of the old—" The usurped power of the Pope being now for ever routed and destroyed, the Crown restored to its supremacy over spiritual men and causes, and the patronage of bishopricks being once more indisputably vested in the King. It is pleasing to know, on Mr Morgan's own authority, that he was not speaking of the Church as a spiritual body in thus referring to its creation. With respect to the conditions of their trusts, the Church of England and other religious bodies stand alike in their relations to the State. I shall be pleased to give the £10 when Mr Osborne Morgan given the Act or Acts of Parlia- ment creating the Church of England.-I am, &c.. J. ROBERT 0. VVKQT St. Stephen's Rectory, Manchester, Dec. 22,1891. [The above did not arrive in time for insertion in our last issue.—ED. W.A.)

ANTI-WELSH. I SIR.-Will you kindly afford me an opportunity of contradicting, in the only effeotual manner that offers itself, a gratuitous and malicious slander ? I hear both from North and South Wales that a report has been spread about to the effect that I am in spirit Anti-Welsh, and that I treat Welsh boys in this school with less favor and kindness than the English boys. I give this falsehood an absolute and unqualified denial, and (as I have recently said on a public occasion here) I defy any man to come to me and name a single case in point. I have many faults, but I really cannot count among them that of stupidity. Yet what else but simply stupid would be the conduct of a man who, in the place where he bar3 made his home, should in anyway discourage the very people who must always be the chief supporters of the school over which he presides ? Into the source of thia silly attempt to cry down the most ancient and most distinguished school in the Principality I do not care to inquire but I will, with your permission, make one or two further observations. A very large number of Welsh-born boys from North and South Wales, but especially from the large towns of South Wales, are sent to school over the border. Why ? Doubtless becauae their parents believe the English schools to be superior to those near at hand. Now, air, if we here by first-class teaching and firm but genial discipline, by the maintenance of an elevated tone in language and character, and attention to the manners that makyth man" (whose importance men of the world will be the last to under-rate), and generally by working the school on English lines, are able to offer as good an education aud school- life as can be found anywhere in England, so far from acting in an anti-Welsh spirit, we are doing the very best thing in our power for the interests of the Principality. It is our boast that we are doing this and so long as that shall be so, I claim to hear no more nonsense about" anti- Welsh. Let my detractors remember one of the finest of Welsh mottoes, Y gwir yn erbun y byd.I am, &c., M. A. BAYFIELD. Christ College, Brecon.

WELSH WITNESSES. SIR,-You have earned the gratitude of every! patriotic Welshman, by calling attention to Mr FitzHugh's remarkable utterance, in reference to the above at the County Magistrates' Court. It is simply a revival of the old charge of perjury, made some years ago, by Mr Homersham Cox against the Welsh nation. That charge was fully refuted at the time, and it was clearly shown, by a far higher authority than he, that Welsh witnesses are not more addicted to lying than those of any other nation. Everyone knows that perjury is constantly committed in all courts of justice and it is not claimed for Wales that she is free from this vice, though sbenayer has furnished so flagrant an instance of it, as the recent Pearl Case in London. But to say, as the chairman of the magis- trates did, that a Welshman wishes to give evidence in his native tongue, in order "to obtain time to manufacture lies," is a statement so absurd as to raise a smile. Most people would suppose that the exact contrary would be the case. Apart, however, from that, is it not disgraceful that, in a district like this, Welsh witnesses are compelled to give their evidence in English? Welsh is the language of their daily life, hence it is plainly unjust to put them through a course of cross- examination in a language with which they are imperfectly acquainted. Many a case of mis- oarriage of justice has occurred through the opera- tion of this arbitrary rule. A strong feeling exists at present in South Wales that the judges and officials of our courts of justice should be bi-lingual. Quite recently an Englishman, who knew no Welsh, was made County Court judge for Mid-Wales. Such a storm of indignation was raised by the appointment that he was removed to an English district, and a bi- lingual Welshman appointed iu his place. It would not require many such cases as that reported in your paper to rouse a kindred feeliug in this part of the Principality, and to include, not only the paid officials, but the great unpaid as well. This would cumpet our magistrates either to acquire the language of the people to whom they administer justice or to relinquish a position for which they are not fully qualitied. But, uutil that happy day dawns, surely the least one can demand is that competent interpreters be appointed in our courts, and that Welshmen should have liberty to give evidence in their own language, free from the fear of such unjust and uncalled for remarks as those uttered by Mr FitzHugh.—I am, & JUSTICE. I

I MR D. LLOYD GEORGE. M.P., AND THE I CHURCH CONGRESS. SIR,-My name has been mentioned by Mr Lloyd George, M.P., as being the prominent mem- ber of the Rhyl Congress Committee by whom the licence was actually taken out for the sale of intoxicants. It is a sufficient answer to Mr George to Bay that the licence actually taken out was one that would only be granted to a licensed victualler. I am not a licensed victualler, and have no con* nection with the drink trade. The licensed victualler who took out the licence was Mr W. G. Jones, of the Mona Hotel, Rhyl, and he was not a member of the Committee, nor even a member of Congress or ticket-holder. I wish to add that I have in my possession a certified copy of the magistrates' consent to Mr W. G. Junes to obtain a temporary permit to sell in connection with the MonA Hotel licence held by him, and also a certiGcatc of the actual licence obtained by Mr W. G. Jones, and for which he paid 15s to the Supervisor of Excise on the morning of the opening of the Congress Session. I am permitted to say that the Supervisor will confirm the statement now made by me. It seems scarcely creditable that a member of Parliament, for the sake of pushing particular views, should care so little for the truth, as to repeat continually at public meetings (teetotal though he be) the sort of gossip that prevails in the tap room of a low public house, instead of making proper inquiry into the facts in the right quarter. Nobody denies, or wishes to deny, that refresh. ments were sold in the Congress grounds, with the sanction of the Congress Committee. Mr George may have made what he liked of that fact without garnishing his orations with untruths. He might have added, had he wished to be fair, t hat- I, acting on behalf of the Committee, suppressed for the whole month the Committee held the gardens the two licences that have been for years attached to the Congress Grounds, and in the interest of good order allowed Mr W. G. Jones to use his six- day temporary licence in their place, and that thu Congress Committee not only received no payment of any kind, by any arrangement whatever, but absolutely sacrificed a large financial asset. Since Mr George is so zealous for temperance, he will rejoice to learn that the sale of beer by Mr W. G. Jones so far from being a success financially was a dismal failure and large money loss, owing to the almost total abstinence on this occasion of the great majority of the Congress members. Certain parties, whose views of the drinking capabilities of Congress members were like those of Mr George, have learned by the large quantities of drink left upon their hands the wrong estimate they had formed of the general character of the clergy. Now that the truth is known Mr George will pose before the public not only as a disseminator of reckless and idiotic statements, but what perhaps he feels more acutely-the Nemesis of proving the clergy temperate, when he had hoped to have proved them drunkards. I commend to Mr Lloyd George the story of Balaam.-I am. &c., W. J. KENT. 72, High.strett, Rhyl, Dec. 30th, 1891.

THE COMING YEAR. Sip.In accordance with my custom, I have east a prophetical eye over 1892, and for your information, as well as for the benefit of your readers, I venture to give an outline of what we can expect before it again becomes necessary to wish each other a Happy New Year. In Religious affairs, a calm may be expected which will lead to strange events. Canon Fletcher will invite the Nonconformist ministers to tea at the Vicarage. Afterwards the Canon will preach in Brynyffynnon Wesleyan Church, and, as a con- dition precedent, will insist that Mr C. Morton Bailey, F C.O., shall play the organ. One of the curates will be told off to conduct a revival service at the Chester-street Baptist Chapel, and, generally sneaking, the Nonconformist lion will lie down with the Epipcopal lamb, and the entrance of the golden age will be further heralded by the presence of the Rev. D. Roberts, D.D., in the pulpit of the Parish Church. The Nonconformist Ministers' Association, touched with the liberal spirit abroad, will meet about May, and pass a resolution declar- ing that they had no objection to be seen on the same platform with ministers of the episcopal church. The resolution will give offence to some irresponsible Nonconformists, but the wiser majority will rejoice at the removal of the embargo, for they will point out that the clergy are working well for the benefit of the people, as far as their lights will permit them, and con. sequently they ought to be helped in their good work. Prayers for the conversion of the corateg will be offered in some of the Nonconformist placell of worship. In Politics many strange events will puzzle the people. Mr L'oyd George, M.P., will be the euest of the Bishop cf St. Aeaph at the latter's residents- and Mr Gee with Mr Parry, of Llanarmon, will be invited to a garden party given by the Dean In East Denbighshire, Sir Watkin will show the electors that he understands the Eight Hours Question, and will celebrate his attainment of the knowledge by building a new Grammar School at Ruabon. His munificent generosity will flow like a river, and the whole Division will blossom as rose. I pass over the general election, because the future is a little hazy aa to its exact date, but before going out the Conservative Government will give Ireland Home Rule and generally" dish the Whigs." I feel, when coming to more purely local matters inclined to refer to other towns, but. if you wili allow me, I will stick to Wrexham. The Town Council will turn its attention to the streets with the result that the ratepayers will have to go elee. where to see mud or dust. The marble pavementl in High-street and Hope-street are found most pleasant, and although the cost is high (;CIO per foot), it will be decided to carry it up to the Great Western Railway Station. The Mayor will build a Town Hall, which Alderman Richard Jones will- in consequence of his success in this direction with suburb—christen. Several citizens will give handsome bequests to the town, and the Free Library will largely benefit by them, The magnificent School of Science and Art which will be built will be opened by the Duke of Clarence and the inaugural lecture on mathematics will hi given by the Mayor, in compliment to a speech made at Grove Park School. I now close my "retrospect of the future and if I can retrospect any more, you shall have it' you shall indeed.—I am, &c., NOSTRADASCU3, JUNIOR,

BRYMBO SCHOOL BOARD. SIR,-The following has been forwarded to the Clerk of the above Board irom a so-called publin meeting. r Copy of resolution passed at a public meeting held at the Biclchgwyn Schools on December 16th, .1991 That this meeting is of opinion that the action of the B?mbc School Bmrd in raising the fee for the use of the school to £1 Is is a most unju,t and one-sided act M? further, are of opinion that the schools built by the rS. ESVestlfnl to the ratepayers to meet and dhcuM public question!. This was seconded by Mr Isaac Jones. upon turning to the minutes of the Board I find the following gth November, 1591. At a special meeting of the Board, held to-day at Bwlch. gwyn School, there were present Mr Peter Williams (in the chair), air R. H. Venables Ky rke (vice-chairinan), Rev. Hugh itoberts, and Mr Isaac Jones. HIRE OF SCHOOLS FOR MEETINGS It was resolred that in future an uniform rate of 10s pre- paid, be charged for the use of school., coyerin hire and cleaning, but not lights. In the case of POULical meetings, the charge to e lv. The members of the Board unanimously passing this resolution were four in number, two Conserva. tives and two Liberals, the casting vote resting with the latter. If Mr Isaac Jones had not per- mitted his politics to get the better cf his judg. ment, he would not have placed himself in the ridiculous position of seconding a vote of censure upon himself. I may add that for the past six years, during which time I have been chairman and vice-chairman of the Board, no political or sectarian feeling has ever been shown in its conduct of business, but everything has been transacted in what was believed to be the best interest of the ratepayers. The schools were built for the purposes of educa. tion only, and I think the majority of the rate. payers will object to their being at the disposal- free of charge-of anyone who chooses to call a public meeting, be that meeting ever so "hole in the corner.I am, &c., Nantyffrith, R. H. VEXABLES KYRKE. Dec. 30th, 1891.

CIVIL WAR LETTERS. To the Manchester Guardian on Monday Mr J. P. Earwaker contributes an interesting article upon some important letters which have recently come to light. Tney concern the Civil War ot 1643-4S, and are chitfly addressed to Wm. Lenthall, the speaker of the House of Commons during the Long Parliament of 1640 60. Among them is an account of the struggle between the Parliamentary forces and the Royalists as it occurred in this locality. Tha commander-in- chief of the Pailiamenfary forces in this district was Sir Wm. Brereton, Bart., of Handforth in Cheshire. His letters show that in October, 1643, he occupied a-id fortified Wcm, in Shropshire, and defsated the Koyalicte i t Dee bridge, near Shrewsbury. The next letter sent to Speaker .Lenthall was from Wrexbam, and is as follows :— 1613, NOT. 11, Wrexham. Wee drewe ont upon Tuesday la.t five Cheshire foots companies and three or four troopej 01 horse and three or foure companies of cuuntrey dragooners, which were ail we could spare- con.-i> er uge them at Stafford and at Wem-wherewitt theire j jined fire companies of Lanca- shire foote and one or twu troopes of borte and Liio or tiro companies of Jragoeners utider the command of Colonell John Booth and ieutenant-collinell Peter Egerton, and about twoe liunfirett ft,tto and on* troops of horse of Sir Thomas Myddelton's, with which wee hdvanced that night ti Fame, which is a little towne on Che hire side-olrer against the Holt in Wales, wherein the tnioiy kept a garrison in the Castle, and had contracted all the strength* and powre of Wales for our resistance, for which purpose they runge thtir bells hackeward aLd tir, d thd beeons throughout Wales to mtiulains the pi sage against us, btfinge our only way into Wate., for which tiul they bad algoe made a towre and drawnriil^e and sirens: gates u-don the bridge, sue ai boih they and wee conoci»ed it verie diffbulte it not altogetuar y.LJp:Hul" to tmke way for our passage over the bridge. Ultimately, Sir William foicad t ie bridge and captured Wrexham. A few days later he took Hawarden Castle, as tl.us ducribed 1643. November 15. Hawarden CastT e. -Upon Siturday last S-r Thomas blidcil,tou ard myself, witu sjrne nine troops of hoise and two small font companies, tuarched from Wrexham towari. Chesttr, Itmvlug the city two miles on the right hand, arsti advanced to Hawarden Castle, whicn is a s;rong castle an 1 in very gojd repair, ani is coinuiodioujlv situated for blocking up Chestrr, which was so unprovided aa that upon summons it was delivered up unto us, and the gelititILen and others tuer.abouts did submit tbem-elves and are ac mitted into the Parliamentary proiection. Sir T. M>ddleton is returned to Wrexham to a general muster appointed upon Monday, myself remaining hire in the C.stle, wi.ichis unfurnished and wants a new draw-bridge, whi-h I desiie to secure and victual with all possible speed. 'Ihe whole country h. reab..u:s tremble and dare not make any oppos tion, and Colonel Davies and Colonel ilostyn are fled and their commanders dispersed, only we hear that the [Arch] Bishop of Yolk-a [WiiliamsJ and lie Bishop, of C tester [rfridgeojan], ist. Asaph, and Bangor and the grandees of th-j country are at Conway, which they have exceddingly fortified, forming the body of an army, ai.d exnecting the landing of the Iriih army under the command, as they report, of the Earl of Ormoad. On November 8, 1645, Sir Wiiliani Brereton and Col. Robert Duckenfirid writs announcing an impor- tant victory at Denbigh against the lloyalist forces which were sent to relieve Chester, which was then besieged. The city surrendert d ou February 3. 1646, and the cost to Parliament was equal to £ 250,000. Flint Castle surrendered in August, 1646, but Holt Castle held out until January, 1G47. It would be very interesting to tiud out what part Wrexham played in the struggle.

HOPE WHISPER*. ? The change in the weather after Christmas Day was a great disappointment to skaters. Our Penyffordd friends have a capital Juvenile money club in their iui dst. Thanks to the ahle management of Messrs. P. Wilcox and W. Roberts over JE219 was distributed lately-the reeult of a year's a, viligs. Thrift cannot be inculcated too early. Sunday evening services are now conducted at the Iron Church, Ptnyffordd. The question of ritual is agitating this part of the district. There were fewer carol singers than of yore. Were they afraid of the dogs of war." What Is it true ? Is it going to be a walk over for Messrs. S. Smith and Herbert Lewi6 ? The Wesleyans are making a determined effors 00 raise a new chapel. The interior of the Parish Church was prettily decorated for Christmas. Some folk, however, looked askance at the innocent little cross on the altar.

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BOROUGH MAGISTRATES' COURT. t MONDAY, DECEMBER 28TH. I Before the Mayor (P. W. Sonmes, Esq.), In the chair T. C. Jones, Rq., William Thoman, Eaq., Alderman Juo. Jone., J. F. Edisbuiy, Esq., and S. T. Baugh, EEQ, A CRUELTY CASE. U.- T '1:1"1 T ntMK r T TT 1.. uonn no Illlllml, or oioss, ior wnora IV.LR -i iLLvplvz fierce appeared, was summoned by Inspector Ilampshirt-, of the R.S.P.C.A.. for cruelty to a horse. —The complainant said on December 3rd he saw the defendant in charge of a brown mare which was suffering from laminitis. It was quite unfit for work, and ought to have been left in the stable.—Mr Duckworth was called, and said the mare was very lame.—M r Pies ea called AIrRobt. Roberta, veterinary Burgeon, Uridgt:-street, who said the animal waø not Buffering pair, and could be used on land.—The case, which the magistrates considered was a proper one to have been brought to their notice, was dismissed, and the cost4 were, on the application of the Inspector, remitted. AN EXPLANA !AH. 1 Mr LI. Hugh-Jones appear and alluded to the cate in which Mr E. T. Fi t was summoned and tined for having allowed a chimney attached to his vaulta in High-street to go on fire. A fine had been imposed, and now Air Hugh-Jones said he wished the magistrates to re-hear the case, pointing out that the evidence of Mr Swainson, architect, would show that the chimney in question was not connected with the vaults in any way.—The magistrates said they had no power to re-open the case, and Mr William Thomas said the statement made in the court would meet the end sought.