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DENBIGHSHIRE AND FLINTSHIRE GEOLOGICAL SURVEY. On Monday last a meeting was held at the Wvnnstay Arms Hotel, Wrexham, for the purpose of adopting resolutioiis urging the chief officer of the ordnance earvey department to complete and publish with the utmost possible despatch the maps of the mineral districts of Denbighshire and Flint- ghire, and t8 take the necessary steps to got the maps geologically filled up by the officers of the Geological Survey Department. The chair was taken by Sir W. W. Wynn, Bart., M.P., and there were also present: —Mr H. W. Meredith, Mr J. R. Barnes (Brookside), Mr Thomson (New British Ironworks), Mr Low, C.E., Mr Webster (Ruabon Colliery), Dr. Williams, Mr T. T. Griffith, Mr Crufton, Mr Isaac Shone, C.E., Mr T. Bary, Mr Baugh, Mr Murless, &c. A letter was received from Mr T. LI. Fitz-Hugl1 regretting his inability to attend, on account of having to be present at a meeting of the River Dee Conservators (which also caused many other gentlemen to be absent). The hon. sec. (Mr E. Morris), after reading the notice of the meeting, explained the origin and object of the movement in which they were en- gaged. Previous to 1865 resolutions were passed by the courts of quarter sessions of Denbighshire and Flintshire in favour of a survey of the two counties on a large scale but their efforts proved futile, and the present association was furmed, with Mr Evan?, late of the New British Ironworks, as president, audtheLte Mr HarJcastle,of Penylau, and Captain Cooke as vice-presidents. After a great deal of trouble as to getting the survey, a memorial, very iufiuentially signed, was sent up to the Lords of the. Treasury, vvho passed the esti- mates for these surveys. At one of their meetings a resolution was passed in favour of sending up a deputation, and it was composed of Sir Watkin, Lord Richard Grosvenor, and Mr Townshend Mainwaring. After a long interview with their lordships, a letter was sent by them to the late Marquess of Westmiuster, whose name appeared at the head of the movement. The Treasury minute stated thdt the sum voted by the Govern- meut was very limited, and it was decided for various reasons tha' a complete survey should be made of London and the surrounding counties before auy steps could be taken to apply it to any other part of England. However desirable it might be to have an enl irged survey of the mineral district?, such as Denbighshire aud Flintshire, their lordships would nut fed warranted in inter- fering With tha progress of the survey, unless it shoul i suit the views of the memorialists to under- take payment of two-thirds of tile survey of such mineral counties, 10 which case it was probable that an arrangement Uliht be male by adding to the force of the surveyors to have the cada-tral survey extended to the counties in which the memorialists were interested. That reply (Mr Morris concinned) was not very encouraging, and it was found impossible to raise two-thirds of the cost of the survey but by increased work and efforts on the part of Sir Watkin, Lord Richard Grosvenor, and Mr Mainwaring, they ultimately succeeded in their object. They fairly dunned" the Treasury to grant immediately that which in the ordinary course of things would not ha\e taken place for 15 or 16 years. Some statements had been made to the effect that the survey would have been obtained just the same whether the aaaoea. tion existed or not; bnt such statements only showed the ignorance of those who made them. Still he coul i not say of such persons— Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise." but he might say where such ignorance existed it was folly to speak. The bent-tits of the survey were acknowledged on all hands. The one before him of Hawarden was a specimen it was on the 25-inch scale, and showed every field and every house, and gave to landowners a map of their own property, while it was very val table to persons purchasing land. The maps on the 6-inch scale would also go into minute details of boundaries, watercourses, and other matters. It bad been stated that the survey was not a geological one; but the obj ect of the meeting was to make it one. The War Office first made the pi rns, which had been completed in some instances and it was now that the original object of the association ought to be carried out. They must get the maps published first in order that they might be geologically filled up. He lately sa v Professor Ramsay, from whom he had received a letter stating that he was not aware that any 6-inch maps of the district were yet published. If they were not it was premature for the geological survey to enter on the ground, as they only commenced to work after the ordnancu maps were engraved. They had instructions to re-survey the local fields when the maps were ready and as soon as their could be freed from thei, present duties. He advised him (Mr Morris) to ask Sir Watkin to s. e Sir H^nry James to r-qnest him to get the mineral parts done first, so that tl-t!-y m!L;Ilt be completed as soon at the other districts which only wanted surveying by the ordnance department. Mr Thomson asked in what time did the secre- tary expect the m ips on the 6-inch scale to come out in the ordinary course. The Secretary said it would take some time for this district as the surveyors had gone a little out of the county in surveying from Chester to Birken- head. It was intended to make a survey along the coist to Holyhead. The survey was granted to this district mainly because it was a mineral one; and at the time it wai allowed the question of the probable duration of the coal snpplv was being dis- cussed as an important qnestiou. la addition to the maps published for Hawarden, maps were drawn for Noithop, Hoiywell, p irt of Hope, part of Mold, Bodfari, and L'ryddvn, and would be pub- lished next. Uuless they moved in the matter, this district would probably be the last to be sompieted. They were more forward with the work in Flintshire, the whole of the county having been surveyed. Mr Tnompson said he supposed they would treat the whole of the county geologically. The Secretary said it was probable that they would take the coal district first as the most important. Sir Watkin said the district was very rich in lead and coal. There was very little difference between them in importance; they were both about equal. Mr H. W. Meredith then moved the following resolution, whicti was seconded by Mr R. C. Webster, und carried :— That it is most desirable from the reasons stated in the memorial from the laud and mineral owners, and proprietors, lessees, and occupiers of llieries, mines, and quarries in the counties of i-enbu shire and Flint- shire to the Lords Commissioners II Her Majesty's Treasury, that the ordnance survey 111 ps on the large scale of the mineral p"rtions of the two counties be first published, so that they may be geologically filled up by the officers of the geological survey department of Great Britain." Mr T. T. Griffith proposed, Dr Williams seconded, and it was passed:— That Sir Watkin Williams Wynn, Bart., M.P., and Lord Richard Grosvenor, M.P., he asked to forward the previous resolution to the chief officer of her Majesty's Ordnance Survey Department." PRESENTATION OF A TESTIMONIAL TO MR EVAN I MORRIS, THE HON. SECRETARY. Mr T. Bury (hon. secretary to the testimonial r?nnd) said they bad taken advantage of that meeting -to present a testimonial to Mr Evan Morris, that his services merited. (Loud cheers.) Lat yeai, at a meeting of the association, Mr Evans (the late chairman) requested him to act as hon. secretary to a movement for presenting a testimonial to Mr Morris for his valuable services in having the geo- logical survey carried out at such an early date. The movement was well responded to, and he now asked Sir Watkin, in the name of the subscribers, to presett Mr Morris a silver salver and a purse containing one hundred guineas, for the important services he had rend red. (Cheers.) He (Mr Bury) was not connected with the association, but knowing Mr Morris intimately, and knowing his worth, he had great pleasure in giving his services in connection with the movement. (Cheers.) Sir Watkin, in presenting the testimonial, said that of course everybody knew the importance of having safe and accniate maps of this country. There were some lawyers present, and they could tell them that a prevalent cause of ill-feeling and embitterment in this district was disputes as to what were the accurate boundaries between properties. Many of the boundaries in the mountainous por- tions were not so well defiued as in the highly cultivated parts; but there were so many divisions of land that it was highly necessary to have boun- daries properly marked. He knew a number of quarrels arose-and he spoke from personal ex- perience—on the point of where the accurate boundaries were in the hilly portions of the country. If there were differences of opinion in the case of the surface, how much more necessary to have pro- per maps of the ground down below where there was so much lees data to go by. There was an enormous amount of capital laid out in mines and collieries, and it was, therefore, very important that the coal measures and lodes of lead should be properly marked, so that capitalists should know what chance of success they had, and be encouraged to develop the resources of the district and employ labour. Mr Morris's labours had most materially aided in getting the survey, and he (Sir Watkin) knew no man who worked harder or more ener- getically than he did in anything that he took in hand. (Loud cheers.) He had great pleasure in handing over to Mr Morris the testimonial of a silver salver an-I a purse containing JE105. (Re- newed cheering.) Mr £ Morris said he could not express his gratitude for the testimonial that had been pre- sented to him. He could only look upon it as an incentive to future exertions in any public obj ect that might be entrusted to him. (Cheers.) When asked to act as secretary to the association, he at once saw the importance of their abject, and he bad only carried out the instructions he had received. The efforts of the association were so well sup- ported and so thoroughly entered into by Sir Watkin, Lord Richard Grosvenor, and Mr Main- waring, whose labours had secured the survey, that the district owed to them an everlasting debt of gratitude, and as two of those gentlemen had seat, in Parliament he hoped the constituency would never forget what they had done for that important movement. (Cheers.) He had bothered Sir Watkin a great deal about the survey, and once when he saw him coming in the distance in White- hall, London, and thinking he would look upon him as the ghost of the geological survey rising before him, he popped in the Horse Guards and let him pass. (Laughter and cheers.) And he had communicated with Lord Grosvenor so much, and his lordship had writ en him so many letters, that he believed nearly all the ladies he knew had got his lordship's autograph, and they were very popular. (Laughter.) And Mr Mainwaring, when- ever he met him nsed to advance laughingly and ask him how the survey was getting on. But the trouble he (Mr Morris) had had was nothing to that which their representatives had taken in the matter. If those services had not been rendered, it was perfectly plain from the Treasury minute that the survey would not have been obtained for fifteen to sixteen years. (Loud cheering.) He again begged to thank them for the handsome testi- monial they had presented him with, and also his friend Mr Bury for his kindness in the matter. Mr H. W. Meredith proposed a vote of thanks to Sir Watkin for taking the chair, which was seconded by Mr Thomson and carried. Sir Watkin, in responding, referred to the channel tunnel scheme of Mr Low, which he hoped .vould receive the assistance of the Government. In spite of the war, he could not help thinking that it would be a great thing to be able to get to Paris without travelling in the present boats. It was stated by the Secretary that the whole of Flintshire had been surveyed. In Denbigh- shire, Gresford, Holt, part of Wrexham, Llanar- IDOlI, Llandegla, and Abergele had been completed. The silver salver presented to Mr Morris was an elegant and massive one, and bore the following inscription :—" Presented (together with a purse of one hundred guineas) to Evan Morris, Esq., in recognition of his valuable services as secretary of the Denbighshire and Flintshire Geological Survey Association, Wrexham, July, 1870." The salver was supplied by Mr Scotcher, Hope-street.




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