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THE IRISH CHURCH. Sill, —I have seen three letters in the newspapers, in answer to my letter ou this subject. Two of the writers are evidently ignorant of Ireland aud its history, and instead of arguments, throw doubts upon what are his- torical facls-xiid ramble away into groundless state- ments and charges. One writer charges the Irish Church with ritualism, which is nowhere practised in Ire- land -and with teachiug the creaky" "doctrines of baptismal regeneration." The other writer iu equally choice language, says that the details of the manuer in which Protestants came by their possessions makes him perspire. 1 have neither time nor inclination to continue such a newspaper correspondence. The other letter appeared in the Carnarvon Herald of 2tith Sept., signed DOOM the writer of which is of a different stamp; and I must leg you will allow me to answer a few of his arguments. 1 maintain that I was correct when I stltell in my former letter that when the bishop-i .m l clergy of the Church of Home appeared, they intruded as members of a foreign communion." All the bisuop.-i in Ireland (except two, who resigned) aud the chief f,tiiiilies of the laity, openly acquiesced in the Acts of Henry VIII, which established the reformed religion aud the present Kouian Catholic bishops aud clergy c m only claim their succession from the bishops and clergy intruded upon Ireland by the Pope in the litl1 century—contrary to law. Ware's History of Ireland, Vol. I, published A.D. 1739, contains an account of ail the bishops of the several dioceses in Ireland from the time of St. Patrick to the date of publication. Change of crecd aid not invalidate their title to the endowments granted from time to time for the seivice of God. They were not granted for the maintenance of the [uvceiit doctrines of the Church of Koine, because many of those tenets against which we protest, were not promulgated until many years after tithes were granted by llenrv II. But even if they wei IV, ,vi Edmulld Burke says, The Church, like every body corporate, may alter her laws without changing her identity." The high- W.iym iu in robbing Mr Gladstone, might as well justify his act on the ground that the right lion, gentleman had lost his identity, aud forfeited his right to that property by the late sudden change in his political opinions. The question, -1 Where was the Church before the Reforma- tiun 1" is met by the hoinely question, u Where was your iacebt-toreitwas washed I" iJeon" asserts that the "claim of the Irish Churchto hold its property as pri- vate property, was destroyed by the Acts of 1833 and 1857." Hut it was not the object of either Act to alienate the revenues of the Church. The preamble of the former Act states among other things, the object of the Act to be that the levenues of certain bishopricks should be applied to the building, &c., of churelies and such other purposes as may conduce to the advance- ment of religion, and the efficiency, permanence and Stability of the United Church of England and Ireland;" and that the tenure by which church lands are held iu Ire/and are inconvenient, aud it is expedient to alter the same in such manner as may tend to the ease aud lIeurity "f the CÙun:h," The Tithes Act of 1838 in the Same spirit has in the preamble that"it is expedient to abolish compositions for tithes, and iu lieu thereof to substitute rent charges payable by persons having a per- petual estate in the lauds." The object was t,) relieve the clergy from the disagreeable position of having to collect the tithes directly from the occupying tenants. The landlords who were obliged to pay the tithes were allowed 25 per cent. to cover losses and expenses. Surely this cannot be considered as interfering with the claim of the Irish Church to its property. "Diun" argues that b.-cause the esleyans were included in the census of 18: 4 among the Established Church—and were not included in that of I 861-they are to be considered as a (lect-, itse to that extent among the adherents of the establishment." But if he refers to page o of the report of the C ensus Commissioners of 18til, he will find a remark that the Wesleyau Methodists very geuerally declined to be reckoned as Dissenters, and were there- iorc inutuded by the Commissioners of 1834 among the members of the Established Church." In the census of 1831 Protestants were classed uuder three heads, Es- tablished Church," "Presbyterians," and other Pro- te, iiit Dissenters." Iu the census tables of 18iil, the Several religious bodies had separate columns—the Wes- leyans ,ttii ijg the number. I he great majority of Irish Jiomau Catholics do not wish the destruction of the .Established Church. At a meeting of the Roman Catholic hierarchy held last year they published a declaration which contains this passage —" We solemnly declare that the only means of tranquilistny Ireland is by a restoration of her wx- iionahty." A Fenian writer in a popular magazine States that wliut the Fenians desire, is Ireland for the Irish aud they look upon the promised reforms as bribes to seduce the patriots from a righteous cause." It is clear, therefore, that the attempt to appease Fenians by the sacrilice of the Church will be as ineffec- tual as it is unjust, and lib-ly to lower the character of Great Britain iu the estimation of the world. In conclusion, I adopt the words of Mr Gladstone himself in an essay published some yeais ago :_H Upon us of this day has fallen (and we shrink not from it, but welcome it as a high and glorious, though arduous duty) the defence of the Reformed Catholic Church in Ireland." Aud 1 must ex press my astonishment that. the light hou gentleman who wrote these words should ÐtHV be found endeavouring to step into power over the ruins of that Church of which he professes himself to be a member, and of which he was formerly the cham- i>iou.—Yours obediently, C. T.

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