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MR. PUXLEY AT LLANSAWEL. On Wednesday, Mr Puxley visited Llansawel, and held a well-attended and highly successful meeting. His peech was about the best he has ever made, and everyone was unanimous in his favour. Herbert Evans, Esq., High Mead, presided, on the motion of D. Long Price, Esq., seconded by Mr. Jenkins, surgeon, Llan- sawel and was supported by Herbert Peel, Esq., Taliaris, the Rev. T. B. Nicholl, Glandulas, the rev. the Vicar of Llansawel, D. Long Price, Esq., and Edward Jones, Esq., Velindre. The meeting was so long, and occurred so late in the week, that we can only give a very brief account of it. The Chairman, in opening the proceedings, said he had been roughing it as a sailor, and had no time to study the polished periods of an accomplished orator, the same cause had prevented him from be- coming intimately acquainted with the vernacular of the country nevertheless, he would say a few words. He had much pleasure in introducing to them Mr Pnslev the future member, he hoped, for the county 'i'nWrs\ W?. were on the eve of one of the mo,? im- portant elections En?and had ever seen !t was no ? a S between the Tories and the Whigs of the oE t?me- but between the Conservatives, the up- S?rs Sthe constitution and honours of the country, and the ?als-we could not c^^tbem^Liberal^ for they had forfeited that name long agO-(laughter)- who, led by ngi$Y dgMP409ueOt worked upon.the people feelings to suit their own ends, and whose avowed object was the overthrow of the good old constitution and the establishment of a democracy and mob law men, who on the slightest opposition to their wishes appealed to that law—for instance, the Hyde Park note (cheers). The vital questions to come before Parliament, should induce them to choose as representatives men of prin- ciple, not bigots, blind followers of party leaders, but men who could think for themselves men who, while wishing to govern the whole nation with justice and uprightness, were able to keep an eye on local interests (cheers). The inhabitants of this county were an agri- cultural community from the highest to the lowest, nearly all derived their income from the soil hence they should elect one of themselves. Such a man stood before them in the person of Mr Puxley (cheers). There were three other candidates—Mr Pugh, who was de- servedly respected, Mr Jones, who was quite determined to go to the poll, and Mr Sartoris, of whom they could not help hearing, for his name was on every corner (laughter). His intentions might be good, but a man who appeared one day as a Tory and the next day as a Whig (" Radical") a man who, to humour the electors of one district promised to support a certain measure and afterwards flatly contradicted himself, was scarcely the man to represent an honourable and straight-forward constituency. (Hear, hear.) Let those who had the old Welsh blood in their veins choose members of unimpeachable in- tegrity and truth. Mr Sartoris's excuse for standing as a Tory for Falmouth was, that he was put forward by his friends. That was to say, that seeing a chance of being returned he stood—against his own conscience and his own principles. Would an important Welsh county accept the cast-off Tory of an English borough, now turned Radical 1 (hear, hear.) The Tories were the owners of the land and friends of the agricul- tural community and all men of sense must see that if the country were handed over to the Radicals anarchy and confusion must ensue. On the Irish Church he would only say that it was brought forward for the sole object of overthrowing the present Government. He would just remark further that the country was invaded by political agents, paid and unpaid (much laughter) going about like ravenous wolves seeking whom they might devour (" True," and laughter) every news- paper teemed with abuse of landlords for "putting on the screw." The Liberals should look at home, for he could name by the dozen men who had been ordered by their Liberal landlords to vote for the Radical candi- date. The Dissenting ministers, whether retained or not, had given their assistance to the Radical party; would it not be more in consonance with their holy calling to abstain from canvassing all over the coun- try, and from hurling from their pulpits indiscriminate denunciations against all who differed from them in politics ? (cheers). As for the screw, some of his own and his neighbours' tenants were going to vote against him, and they were welcome, but as a rule, farmers were intelligent enough to see that their interests were identical with those of their landlords. The grievances of some Radicals would be absolutely amus- ing were not the ignorance they displayed so deplor- able. One of them actually complained to him that the army and navy were going to the devil, simply because they made railways in Abyssinia and the Crimea to carry up shot and shell, instead of making the brave fellows which fought our battles for us beasts of burden as heretofore (laughter). Could we imagine anything more silly ? He then called for a fair hearing for Mr Puxley, and introduced that gentleman to the meeting. Mr Puxley said he had every respect for the other candidates, including Mr Sartoris, to whom he would allude politically, not personally, for the attacks made upon him (Mr Puxley) in the Liberal press as to his alleged persona! attacks were most unjust. They knew very little about Mr Sartoris, but doubtless he was a good landlord and a very nice gentleman (laughter). Mr Sartoris was going to abolish Tory domination—a fine term, but what did it mean ? Had any farmer present felt the burden of Tory domination, or ever known a Tory landlord who was worse than a Liberal one ? (Cheers). Was Lord Cawdor, or Mr John Jones, or his unworthy self, or any other Tory landlord worse than Mr AbAdam ? (Cheers and laughter). Mr Sartoris said he should go in for the Ballot if he didn't win this contest; and if that gentleman could not go into the House of Commons he was at perfect liberty to go in for whatever else he pleased (laughter). The Con- servative party's sympathies and interests were with the land; they must be, for as they knew, the heart was very near the pocket (cheers and laughter), and now the Radicals wished to drive the Tories out of their stronghold—the counties. But they would not succeed. Radicals complained that the country was governed by the highest class did they think the lowest class could govern better, or with greater kindness ? They wished to overthrow Toryism, and abused landlords because they were churchmen. Had a churchman landlord ever preferred a churchman to a dissenter for his tenant (" Not one"), or refused a subscription to a chapel or a piece of ground when asked for it ? Before they drove the Tories out of the counties they should look before they leaped. The Tories were ridiculed for taking a leap in the dark let the Radicals mind that they did not take one (laughter). As a churchman he defended his own church, and what dissenter would not cry shame on the man who did otherwise (cheers). He would stand up for any and every Protestant church (cheers). The Conservative charter had six distinguishing points. Firstly, they upheld the Protestant Constitution; secondly, they opposed democracy thirdly, they went in for equal advantages in commerce and agriculture fourthly, they stood up for a vigilant and friendly foreign policy; fifthly, for an enlightened administration of home and colonial affairs and sixthly, they wanted to make old England respected by the whole world (cheers). They supported the church as the bulwark of Protestantism—not the only bulwark, for he wished all Protestants to go hand in hand—but a bulwark. The Liberals attacked it, by the aid of the votes of Roman Catholics, who supported the Liberals because they knew the Liberals were their friends. The Conserva- tives would rather be defeated than have victory on such terms. The Conservatives resisted democracy, because it was the greatest curse to any country. They were not so foolish as to wish to do away with the lowest class, which they had enfranchised. The Liberals aid they were consistent and advanced with the times, hut Lord John Russell, in a speech on Bright and the Manchester School, in 1859, found fault with the hon. member and his class, for their narrow-mindedness." On their own peculiar questions they showed great ability and extensive knowledge, but. on questions affecting the fortune of the empire, their intellect was bound up in such a narrow round that they could not understand the great principles on which our ancestors formed the constitution." That was the very thing which Mr Sartoris abused the Tories for (laughter), and the Liberals were convicted out of their own mouths. Lord Russell had passed through many changes, but had always been a friend to the British Constitution. Con- servatives objected in toto to all the taxes being laid on agriculture the Liberals did this because they came irom the Boroughs, where commerce obtained. Did farmers expect their condition to be improved by the commercial classes? If anybody was to raise the condition of agriculture it was not the Liberals, but the Conservatives; that was an overwhelming reason why they should support the Conservative candidates. A ,entleman in a Chamber of Agriculture, stated the difference in the amount of poor-rate paid by a farmer on a JEaO holding, and a commercial gentlemen getting his £2,000 a year, which was something alarming, and was the effect of sending Liberals to Parliament. In foreign policy, the Conservatives had made England respected. The Alabama dispute, which Lord John Russell had refused to go into, had been settled by Lord Stanley in a statesmanlike manner. Refusing to go into a difficulty was not the way to get out of it. The Conservatives had got us out of the Luxemburg difficulty, from which there was great danger of a European war. Home and Colonial policy could not be better represented than by Mr Hardy, and a better Lord Lieutenant than Lord Abercorn could not be. When he (Mr Puxley) heard the cheers which, as poets sky rend the skies," given when the PrmGe of Wales landed, by men who, as was said, were groaning under a tyranny worse than Poland, he thought if the Poles could cheer their oppressors like that they must be a very fine people. London was the only European capital that had not been invaded by trench troops (cheers). The Tories prevented that the Tories had coated the useless wooden ships which the Liberals built, with iron, and made them impregnable, had put guns into the Liberal's forts, had converted the old Brown Bess into the rifle, had given the so ler two pence a day extra, and now the Radicals saId they had spent too much n/oney. From the Duke of  down to the present day the ?otto of the ^erval^ had been to make old England invincible (cheers) The Comcrvative party was called stupi ui ere  not as brilliant statesmen on the Conserva?tive  the Liberal benches? Who could surpass Pitt an RE81 as commercial reformers, or Der?y or klsdraet I f The ConservatIves 100 e 0 as polItICal re ormen, b r' that the past pas if history as weU a^ present, was oun 0  h m that mankind could b d t un<*f? French doctrinares might tellb'  ??ca might look only be happy under a rel l Eno'land must look backward, must be g?.?? ??? -ence not by theory. It was better to be too slow ?? f,,t. He asked It was bettr to be too s oakc of change, which leJ them to resist change for the ? ? ? chan? ge, which led to revolution, and to support c g beQ fuuy matured, the only change which ??uld?bejSdv??t e?dbv? y mthae tured, servative party (cheers ) Th? going to overthrow, one by ne, all ???''eant institutions of the country; for instance, th ?cclesiastical Tithes .? f bar b arism. Bill, which somebody had called a r „ t 0f barbarism. Was it passed 300 years ago by t^he ervatives ? No, Jn l851 by this remnant of barbarism was P?a— the head of the Liberals (laughter), introduced y ^ea(j the Liberals (laughter), with he party who now proposed to mem • 't. The Liberals had changed the 0 o gfc bers of Parliament, and when he   Stephens, as he fully epected (laughter an cheers), he wold not be obliged to swear 4at he won do anything to overthrow Protestantism- ■ WDU done to please, not the dissenters, from whom "o ld have as many votes as Mr SMtoria—??B"?? ?.but the papists. So that Queen Victoria no longer wore the crown dei gratia, by the Grace of God. Why was it done ? The Church of England had never opposed freedom no instance of such a thing could be produced. The fact was, the Liberal party idolised numbers. The Conservatives went in for equal electoral districts Counties were not half represented, and if Carmarthen- shire had its rights it ought to have four members. He then read the letter of the Rev Mr Bromley, Congre^a- tionalist Minister, ridiculing the idea that numbers were the test of right to property. Would the right to his (the speaker's) property be less because 500 men claimed it ? (cheers). The Rev Mr Bromley also said that equal religious rights," which was another Liberal cry, supposed equal truth, equal purity, equal education. Protestants claimed no political superiority but as friends of a free and open Bible and of the right of private judgment, they did claim religious superiority (cheers). Who were the best administrators of the law ? Would they say that the lower class could govern best, while they bad before their eyes the dis- graceful scenes enacted at Sheffield, and the destable name of Broadhead was before them ? He did not say that the aristocracy had a right to all the government, but they bad a right to their share. The ridiculous proposals made"at Brussels the other day such as the taking of farms and working of the mines by none but working men, and drawing upon a bank of credit, were a sample of what democratic goverment would be. These wiseacres said that in case of war workmen should strike and soldiers should refuse to fight [cheers]. The Irish Church was said by the Liberals to be merely apolitical church but in 1851 the Times sent a special commissioner to enquire into the state of the Irish Church, and reported that in Connaught something like a Reformation was taking place, and the "Irish mind was shaking off the fetters of its ancient faith and it recognized the great success of the Protestant Church in her missionary work. Had the Irish Church changed so much in ten short years ? The priests objected to the church because it was doing some- thing if he [Mr Puxley] thought Mr Sartoris was doing nothing he should not trouble about him but wherever he heard Mr Sartoris was most active, he lost no timeiu working there too [laughter and cheers], F had been preached about for being abusive and Dr* Norton said a great dead about him but whatever he (Mr Puxley) had said about Mr Gladstone, he had not called him the devil (" Oh," and laughter) but Mr Sartoris said Mr Disraeli's eminence partook of that bad eminence ascribed to the ruler of the infernal regions," Mr Sartoris said Mr Disraeli ought to have been an acter perhaps Mr Sartoris knew something about acting (laughter). The greater part of the speech was abuse of Mr Disraeli, and all the rest of the speech was the remarks of a good Conservative, which he believed Mr Sartoris was at heart. The Standard had an article on Mr Sergeant Barry's candidature for Dungarvan. A Mr Matthews who was his opponent, put into the poor box on Sunday, and although Mr Sergeant Barry went down with a breviary under his arm and put £5 in the poor box the electors refused to have him, because he had been the crown prosecutor of the Fenians. Upon this the Rev Dr Halley defended Sergeant Barry, in a political sermon—for they had political sermons in Ire- land as well as in Wales. It was denied in a Carmar- then paper that the priests would tell lies for the good of the church. He wished he could believe it. But here the Rev Dr. Halley in his sermon preached in defence of Sergeant Barry, showed the moral stratagems which a priest will use for his church when he gets the chance. The rev Doctor said, that before, Sergeant Barry went to Cork to prosecute the Fenians, he wrote to him hesita- ting as to whether he should undertake the prosecution or not. The holy father replied telling him to "hesitate not," or some Orange barrister would be retained, and would do his duty with a vengeance. But, said the priest, I know, if you go to prosecute, h t" you will be more the advocate than the prosecutor, and only a few of the Fenians would be convicted. That was a very flattering thing to say about a English Queen's Council, and an adviser at the Castle and these were the men who would not tell a lie for the good of the holy Church. He asked them to wait and see what these men and their party would brmg about if they could he asked them to stand by the Conser- vatives in upholding those institutions under which they believed the country had attained to such emi- nence he asked them to stand by the Church, which had been the bulwark of the Protestant faith for ages, which nestled around her a host of Protestant bodies. Long might they all work and live, and fight together let them stick to each other in opposition to Rome (cheers). They had enough to do to defend themselves without fighting each other (cheers). They must not be taken in by people who said that the Church had done nothing. If the Church in Ireland had done no work they would have left her alone, but because she was progressing they desired to overthrow her. She had done a splendid work, as the Irish in America could testify; they became Protestants on arriving in America, because they were out of the in- fluence of the priests, and because they had been pre- pared to receive the true faith by the distribution of the free and open Bible amongst them by the Protestants in Ireland (cheers). Dissenters and Churchmen worked together in Ireland against Popery; so we would in Wales when this miserable furore had gone down (cheers). Mr Sartoris had had a little run, but it was nearly over; and ho asked them to stand by those in- stitutions of the country which supported the agricul- tural interest their interest and to consign the Liberals, as they called themsel ves, to the boroughs. Mr Ed. Jones, Velindre, proposed that this meeting considers Mr Puxley a fit and proper person to represent the county of Carmarthen in Parliament, and pledges itself to use its best endeavours to promote his return. After hearing his eloquent address they would agree that he would be a representative worthy of the county, and would some day make for himself a great name in the senate to which they would send him [cheers] There were plenty of men able speak for England, and Mr Puxley would soon be there to speak for poor old Wales [loud cheersj. He cast no reflections on Mr David Jones, who had done his duty honestly and well and deserved their gratitude [hear, hear], but every had his gift, and Mr Jones was no orator. Mr John Jones although not an eloquent man, would be a suitable com- pamon to Mr Puxley he was a capital man of bUHine and would make a good bard-working member. Ior: over, he took great interest in county matters. The two members they proposed to elect would not be like the young gentlemen sometimes heard of who entered th: house at ten 0 clock, with white ties on, fresh from so fashionable party, and cried Divide, divide" i? dne that they might get away to some other plac of alr c ment but hard-working men on committees in ;e morning and in the House at night. He would t °1; them why he preferred Mr Puxley and Mr Jones to M? l h d 1\'1' S 1\/1' ,0 1\ r Pugh and Mr artons. Mr Pugh was a worthy m and a good landlord, but in the questions which were b f th H erc sure to come before the House no man living could tell on which side he would be found [cheers and lauwh ter[. He [the speaker] did not know Mr Sartoris who was, however, a gentleman by birth, and a landowner h h d h b h. Vnel and one who had a right by his position, to aspire to be come a county member; but he [Mr Jones] could not support Mr Sartoris, because he was a Radical. Beinc a Conservative he could have nothing to say to Mr Sartoris Again, Mr Sartoris ws inconsistent. He promised Mr Johnes, of Doiaucothi, before he entered on the congest that he would not support any measure for the disnsLab? lishment or disendowment of the Church in Wales. Now however, he had falle away from those professions It was all very well for him to deny it, but the testimony of Mr Broad—a most respectable and trustworthy man in the last. WELSHMAN, was conclusive that he did at a meet- ing at Lampeter, break that promise made to Mr Johnes. How could they possibly support a man who thus changed his mind, and broke his promises. When h" came to Llandovery he fenced with the question, and would not answer it. How could they admire such vac- cilating and uncertain conduct as that ? He would show how Mr Jones and Mr Puxley were more Liberal than Mr Sartoris. There )a a cry in the country, Pe byddai i Mr Sartoris fyned i meWn ni fyddai dim degwm mwy i dalu." W?uld the people be better for that spoliation ? would not the landlords reap the benefit 1 hence if Mr Sartoris supported the measure he was a Tory and not a Liberal (Laughter, cheers). Mr Jones promised to vote for the abolition of the horse and dog taxes (applause). Mr Puxley promised the same with regard to the horse tax. Thus they were more Liberal than Mr Sartoris, because if these two taxes were abolished, money must be had. and probably an additional twopence would be put on the Income Tax, which would shift the burden from the tenant farmers to the landlords. Another proof of Mr Sartoris's inconsistency. From a letter in the WELSH- MAN last week, it appears that Mr Sartoris once con- tested Penrhyn and Falmouth, as a Tory, and on that occasion he stood at the bottom of the Poll, the very position he would occupy here (much laughter). Mr Howell Gwyn was a Tory then, and was still a Tory; Mr Sartoris was then a Tory, but had now become a Radical (laughter). That was the difference. He had canvassed in the upper part of the county, but never attempted to put on the screw he tried to the utmost of his power to induce voters to suppoit the Conserva- tive candidates, and was very successful. He never threatened to turn a man out of his farm if he did not vote for the Conservative but it was currently reported that these were the tactics of the Conservatives. A man whom he had never seen, and did not wish to see—Mr Bright, and Mr Richards who stood for Merthyr, talked of the disgraceful treatment of tenants by their land- lords but was it the truth ? If there ever had been a curse light upon Wales, it had been the endeavour to separate landlord and tenant. God forbid that n should succeed. Was there anything more pleasant than the meeting of landlord and tenant at market ? (cheers). Mr Bright would have tenants meet their landlords only on rent days (hear, hear). Respecting the Liberal screw perhaps they had seen a letter in a paper, signed "The Queen of Salem" (laughter). He did not know the lady, but there was in his neighbourhood a lady who, thogh not exactly Queen of Salem, held a prominent position in another chapel—one who would talk to you about liberality by the hour, (laughter) well she wrote to her tenants ordering them to plump for Sartoris (much laughter). That was a specimen of her own liberality. He had one day met a man at Llandovery, to whom he said,—" A welwch chwi fod yn dda i roddi i mi eich vote P" Yn wir, Sir, nid alIaf. Paham na allwch ei rhoddi i hen ffrynd 7" "Oh Sir, yr wyf wedi cael llythyr oddi wrth fy meistr."—"Pa beth mae eich meistr yn ddweyd?" -1 Fe ddywedodd mai efe biodd fy vote i." This was no high churchman or Tory, but a Methodist and a Radical, who wrote to his tenant saying—" I am the owner of your vote," and he gave his support to Mr Sartoris. (Laughter.) If that were true the Liberals had no stones to throw. One gentleman in the county was said to have called his tenants around him and said "You know it makes no difference to me how you vote, we shall be just as good friends vote as you like but I am for Sartoris, and if you take my advice you will go for him too" (much laughter). They often heard a good deil about equality, but he thought there was some danger in men wishing every- thing to be equal, for, by and bye, they would be say- ing Mae Die Shon Dafydd druau yn ddigon tiawd. Fe ddvlai gael rhan o Ystad Rhydodyn." (Laughter.) Mr. Jones then referred to the Irish Church question, remarking that its destruction was only the stepping stone to an attack on the Welsh and all other churches. He then read extracts from a pamphlet by the Rev M. Walsh, showing that it had always been a very pure church, and had sent out misionaries connected with the eastern to the western church. It was said that church property ought to be taken away because it was in the hands of a minority but according to that a man with a thousand a year ought to have it taken away and divided amongst the majority. Would any man in his senses say that we ought to draw our missionaries from India because the Hindoos numbered millions and we only a few thousands? He showed how the clergy in Ireland had increased, said that X300,000 voluntary contributions had been given by the Irish laity, referred to the 700,000 Protestants in Ireland, and said it was a shame to destroy a church like that. To take away the tithes and then refuse to accept them, was like knocking a man down in the dark, and not taking his purse after all. (laughter). He had been grieved to see the part taken by some Dissenters and Dissenting ministers in this contest. What would Howell Harries and Rowlands, of Llangeitho, say if they could see their chapels defiled by the excitement and turmoil of a political contest (cheers). These good men loved the Church of Eng- land, and grieved that they were driven out of her communion and one of them, on his death bed, told his son never to leave the Church of England (hear, bear). How terrible, how sad was the difference now. Were there not men in the Nonconformist body who, not content with religious liberty, gloried in crying, "Down with the Church of England, down with it even unto the ground?" In conclusion he asked all on their side to be as one man in this contest; let there be no such thing as the cry of Surrender," no such thing as strife, envy, or jealousy (cheers). Let the first be willing to be last, and let the last, if necessary, be ready to become first; and if occasion required, let them fight as in the olden time their forefathers fought-drawing their swords and flinging away the scabbards thus would they in the end obtain the reward of their en- deavours by seeing Mr Jones and Mr Puxley at the head of the poll. (Mr Jones concluded an eloquent speech, which was delivered with capital effect, amidst great applause.) After an address in English by the Rev T. B. Nicholl, and in Welsh by the Rev Thomas, of Talley, and Mr Long Price, Mr Puxley proposed a vote of thanks to the chairman, remarking that he could not believe, from the character of the meeting, that Welsh landlords were the tyrants they were represented to be. The screw was talked of, but the Conservative landlord believed there was no screw so powerful as the screw of affection. If the plague destroyed the cattle, or a bad harvest came, tenant farmers ran to their landlords for a percentage off their rent; ond he would be a very hard-hearted man who refused to give it (cheers). Mr Evans, of High Mead, was a tip top fellow, and he asked them to give him three cheers. (This was complied with heartily.) The Chairman, after responding, called for three cheers for their future member, Mr Puxley, and three for Lady Drummond, which were given with a will, and the meeting concluded.

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