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CARMARTHENSHIRE ADJOURNED…
CARMARTHENSHIRE ADJOURNED QUARTER SESSIONS. The fourth adjournment of the Quarter Sessions for the county of Carmarthen was held on Tuesday, at the Shire Hall. There were present D. Pugh, Esq., Chair- man Col. Trevor, M.P. D. A. S. DHics, E-q., M.P. D. Morris Esq., M.P. Sir J„ H. Williams, Bart. Sir John Mansel, Bart.; J. E. Saunders; J. LI. Davies R. G. Thomas; J W. Phillipps II. Lawrence, M. D. T. Jones, M. D. R. P Beynon D. Prytherch Lewis Evans; C. Morgan, senior, M. D. C. Morgan, junior; D. J. Edwards; Grismond Phillips; J. LI. Price; D. Davies; T. C. Morris; E. Wood, Esquires, and the Rev. John Williams. Col. Trevor, rose and said that this adjournment of the S<,ssions had been held for the purpose of continuing the efforts of the magistrates to establish a Rural Police force for the county. A question had arisen as to whe- ther the rate necessary for the maintenance of the Police could be legally made at the adjournment of the Sessions, or whether the rate must be raised:Jt a Gene- ral Quarter Sessions He had taken the opinion of counsel, aml had asked the advice of Mr. Hall, of Bow- street; he had not, however, as he hoped, been able to obtain the opinion of Her Majesty's Attorney-General. From all he could gather, he was of opinion that it would not be advisable to raise the rate now, and as a doubt existed, which doubt could not be satisfactorily setat ie.it at present, he should move that the question of raising the rate for the maintenance of the Rural Police be adjourned until the 19th of October next, that being the General Quarter Sessions. Sir James Ilamlyn Williams protested against the establishment of a Rural Police. The people were already in a riotous state and nothing could be more inducive to them to riot still more than the imposing of an additional burden on them of 1,000 or £5000 a year. As an amendment he begged to propose that the ques- tion be adjourned till that day 12 months. Col. Trevor said that the Police Force had actually been established. Sir James Hamlyn Williams said that the magistrates might establish the force, they might levy the rate, but he doubted much if the farmer either could or woulù pay it, anù the m"gi"trates woulLl then ùe under the necessity of distraining for it. God knew the people had real grievances enough to complain of, and why had not thoc grievances been redressed at the proper time. All there were against Rebecca; he however had thatmorn- iog seen an instance of the scrupulousness with which she carried out her claims for justice. He had passed through Abcrgwilly gate that morning, and he found that she had left the gate standing across the main line of road, while the side bar adjoining, which was ob- noxious, had been demolished, God forbid that he shouLl encourage her going out of a night armed, but as if anything were wanting to prove the justice of her claims-if anything were wanting to prove the existence of grievances, 13 out of L5 side bars on one Trust only, had been taken down by the Trustees themselves. Why were not these done awav with at first ? Why did the Trustees wait until outrages had been committed? Let all grievanees be promptly redressed, and let stipenùiary magistrates tJe appointed for the county, and then all "'ou1d be quiet and peaceable. Gael knew there was not much reason to talk of the dignity of Carmarthenshire Magistracy; for his part, he firmly believed and he ven- tured to affirm that the magistrates had completely lost the confidence of the people. (Cries of No" from the Bench). There might be a few exceptions, but ge;1Crally speaking, it was unfortunately the case. He begged to reiterate his opinion that until all grievances were redressed and stipendiary magistrates appointed, no peace was to be hoped for in the county. CoÏ. Trevor was sorry that on a mere question of ad- journment, the Hon. Bart, should have thought it right to have uttered sentiments which, as a magistrate, he ought to r.3Ye hesitated in expressing. He had ail but sanctioned the procceedings of Rebecca. lie had talked of pulling down a side-bar, but was he aware that be- tween 60 and 100 gates and side-bars had been pulled down and demolished. Outrages of every sort had been committed by people calling themselves the children of Rebecca. It was only the previous day he had visited a large fire, one of three that had occurred on Sunday last, on the property of a gentleman whose only crime was that he had been an active mgistratc and had headed the troops to put down an outrage on a Turn- pike Gate. They had gone out armed at night, and in one instance they had even appeared armed in broad daylight. They had appeared armed at the house of the agent of Mr. Rees Goring Thomas, at Llanon, and had not only fired at the house, but had selected his bedroom as the chief object of attack. The very curtains of the bed in which Mr. Edwards lay were perfectly riddled with shot, many of which were very near the pillow. His daughter had attempted to go to the door and she had been fired at. Was this a state of things to be allowed to continue or to treat lightly ? He was not prepared to say but that there had been gates put up.-hc would not say illegally—but in situations where perhaps in strictness they ought not to have been. But there was nothing to justify the outrages that were con- tinually committing. Let them state their grievances fearlessly and openly, and desist from that course of violence in a county hitherto so peaceable which perilled either the property or the existence of all within it. He did not know other causes for disaffec- tion, but he believed therc were many alleged. There had been committees appointed on the various Trusts to enquire into the grievances one on the Newcastle Trust, another on the Main Trust, and he believed one either was or would be appointed on the Whitland Trust, at least he had recommenùed it at a meeting he attended lately. More would have been formed, but that the Government had, at the earnest request of the magistrates, sent down Mr. Hall and other Commis- sioners to investigate the grievances on the different Trusts. That circumstance and that circumstance alone had put a stop to the formation of committees on other Trusts, as it was deemed more proper to entrust the enquiry into the Trust affairs to a stranger, and to an impartial magistrate, rather than to the Trustees who were of course interested parties themselves. If the Hon. Baronet had attended earlier meetings of the magistrates, he would haye been quite as conversant with these affairs as any one there present. The ques- tion of a stipendiary magistrate he wonld not argue upon. He knew of at least one spot in the county in the immediate district of the present disturbances, where there was no resident magistrate, he meant Llanon. In that quarter he thought the services of a stipendiary magistrate might be extivmely useful. He was, however, far from thinking that the Carmarthen- shire magistracy had lost the confidence of the people of the county. He had been ill constant communica- tion with the magistrates, both in his official capa- city as Vice Lieutenant, and also in his private capacity, and he must say that he had not only not seen any backwardness to do their duty as magis- trates, but he had also seen the greatest alacrity dis- played to remove any real grievances. There were no doubt many grievances to complain of, but there is this to be said, that where a person in the station, in life of the Hon. Burt., and holding the property in the county that he does, made such statements as he- had done that day, it was more than probable that whoiv any want of confidence had been felt, that want of confidence would be increased very materiality. He was reminded by Capt. Edwards—and he wondered how it had escaped his mcr;¡ory-that only the day previous a poor woman who collected tolls at Hendy Bridge gate had been shot in the face and brutally murdered by a party of fellows who came to destroy the gate. He did not stand up there to vindicate any, but he thought all persons would agree that the magistrates had done all b. 1' b in their power to put a stop to the disturbances in the county. Mr. J. Lloyd Davies said that if any of the people might have had their confidence shaken, he did not know anything mere ealculatnl to shalc the confidence of the whole: of them than what had fallen from the lIon. Bart. that clay. He believed that the magistrates of this county had acted with an impartially and integrity never equalled by the magistracy of any other county. (Hear, hear.) If the burdens Oil the roor fanners are great—and he kne;v they were—if the laws press heavy on them, it was surely too much to visit the fault of those laws upon the magistrates who were only the administrators of the laws as they are. Sir James H. Williams had heard on ooc1 authority that the Trust money has been expended in a most disgraceful way. All the people say so, and would it not therefore have been better to satisfy the people by appointing a Committee to investigate the affairs of each Trust? lie repeated that he had heard that the Trust money had been expended in a most disgraceful manner. Mr. J. Lloyd Davies called upon the Hon. Bait, to nam-e the Trust. If the Trust were named, he was per- fectly sure there was not a man in the Commission of the Peace who would not at once join in appointing a Committee or in taking any other steps that might be conducive to the obtaining of justice. There were charges brought against the Newcastle Trust, and a committee had been at oncc appointed at the suggestion of a Barrister-a gentleman certainly of no congenial politics to himself or many other Trustees. The Report of -,at Committee had been issued and nothing could be more satisfactory. It was proyed that evey penny received had been expended, a large portion of the Money berrowed had heen paid, in fact, as much as £ 1200 within four years. Numerous other equally satisfactory statements were made. Capt. Evans said that so far from the report having given ¡:,e;1cral satisfaction he knew th<1.t it had been a soaree of very general complaint. Sir John iansel said that wllatHer were the gene- ral complaint, it ought tn he remembered that a gentle- man from Landen had teen investigating the accounts, and if that did not give satisfaction, he did not know what would. Capt. Evans said that he had been one of that com- mittee, and he k:1l'W that the aceolmts lnd only been gone into for a certain period of time and not so far back as they ought to Lave been. Besides, there were lTlany items for w1.ieh 1:0 vouchers were s hown. As much as could be done was done, but there were no vouchers produecd for a reat many item, which were entered without particulars. Mr. R. G. Thomas, was much astonished at what had! fallen from the Iln. Baror.et. anti Captain Evans. He (Mr. T.) haù the honour of being elected Chairman of: the committee en the Newcastle Trust, of which ccm- mittee Capt. Evans himself was one. Capt. Evans had concurred with him in suggesting to Mr. Lloyd Hall the careful investigation of the whole accounts. Now as Mr. Hall had been appointed delegate for the neigh- bouring parishes who feit aggrieved, he was of course to take up the accounts at the very earliest period, to use every exertion, to sift the accounts thoroughly and in fact, to leave no stone unturned by which he could serve the interests of his clients. Surely if he thought fit in the exercise of his discretion only to ask for an investigation of the accounts for a certain period, it was not right for the committee to gainsay him. Well, this committee pursued its labours, and it was found that every shilling of the money had been laid out in a pro- per way. When he and Captain Evans said that the vouchers had not been produced for some items, Mr. Hall said he had no doubt the payment were regularly made, and the vouchers produced at the time. He had heard that there were gross instances of the appropria- tion of Trust money to private purposes, and when he had examined the accounts, he found no such thing. It was true the Trust was heavily in debt, but why ? Because the Trustees had effected very considerable improvements on the road. Those improvements reflected great credit on the Trustees, and on Mr. John Lloyd Davies, for there never was a greater boon con- ferred on the county than the formation of that road of which he might say, Mr. Lloyd Davies was the architect. Some years ago the Trustees thought fit to increase the tolls 50 per cent. in order to pay the expenses of this road, and from what he understood, the farmers counted the old tolls again. Now the tally holders did not wait to be asked; they said we have no objection to reduce our interest from;) per cent. to 3t per cent. It was found that with this reduction the tolls would be sufficient for the purposes of the road and the payment of the interest, the committee there- fore suggested the reduction of the tolls to the old price, and the Trustees acted upon that suggestion. So much for the Newcastle Emlyn Trust. Before I sit down I must be allowed to say a word or two on the charge against the Trustees and magistrates so widely made, first through the columns of The Times, and now more pointedly here by the Hon. Bart. The first time he plr. T ) heard of Turnpike grievances was when the gates were knocked down. He never heard a complaint about anything else until The Tunes reporter came into the country. There were no com- plaints about the Tithes, Poor Law, or Rents until he found them out. The disturbances first commenced in the Hundred of Derllis, they then extended to the Hundred of Ehet. A large meeting of the county magistrates convened by the Vice Lieutenant, was held at Newcastle Emlyn, for the purpose of meeting the delegates of all the neighbouring parishes, and saying, "Here we are to meet you; tell, us your grievances, and we will endeavour to redress them." The only grievance then complained of was that of the Turnpike Tolls on the Newcastle Trust. He had since that meeting called together many farmers, and having asked them to state their grievances, has heard of no other than the Tolls. Other gentlemen had adopted the same method in other districts, with the same result. It is surely hard then, that the magistrates, after having used every exertion to discover grievances, should be accused of having turned a deaf ear to the voice of a suffering people. He thought no one so accursed as those who, instead of relieving their poorer brethren, sought to oppress them. He apologized for trespassing on the time of the meeting, but assured them that other committees on other Trusts would have been appointed, but that it was considered that if an impartial person came down from the Government he would give more satisfaction than any person or persons appointed by the magistrates of the county. The Government, therefore, sent down Mr. Hall at the express solicitation of the magistrates, who said, We have had certain grave charges preferred against us, and we wish for some impartial person to examine into the truth or untruth of them." With this view he was sent down as a stranger to hear the grievances of the people. Capt. Evans said that he had nothing to do with the appointment of Mr. Lloyd Hall, as delegate, but he contended that the new Conwil i oad was no benefit to the parishes through which it ran. In the report of the Committee it was said that the debt was created by the money laid out on the new Conwil road Mr. Hall, the Commissioner, has heard evidence relating to that fact, and it will be rather awkward if it is found that he re- ports differently to that. He reiterated his statement that there were many items fur which there were no vouchers, and said that in most instances the accounts were lumped together. Mr. J. Lloyd Davies was not altogether sorry that he had had this opportunity of adverting to the outlay on the new Conwil road. He maintained that a greater benefit has not been conferred on the county of Car- marthen than the formation of that road for the last cen- tury. (Cheers.) If any impartial person were to judge of the matter it would be impossible for him to deny the truth of that statement. Formerly it took a farmer two hours to do six miles, it now will take him only half the time This was of course a very great object to the poor limer, especially when it was considered that for e.ery two loads c"1.nicd formerly they now carried fifteen, or twenty, and that entirely owing to the new roat1. The tolls ha.d been increased no less than 1.; 1 ,200 a-year by the new road. Two carts with one horse in each now carried twice as much as before with three horses in each. The limers of the county of Cardigan, even from Newquay, come over that road for lime, and there is an area of nearly twenty miles in that district that has been entirely limed from this county since the new- road was made. The expense was calculated at £;3,000 only. He however had always said that it could be done for £1,000 (as we understand); some of his friends had told him that he was fitter for a lunatic asylum when he said so. He, however, cared not for individual opinions,but where he had conferred a benefit he expected every man to be honest and impartial enough to acknowledge it. (Cheers.) He certainly did think the tolls too high, and 5 years ago he had drawn up a copy of an order reducing the rate of interest from 5 per cent. to 4 per cent. Mr. U. E. Jones the clerk then applied to every Tallyholder to give his consent to the reduction, and every one, gentle and simple, refused. He wished them to have the tolls reduced to the old rate, but of course it could not be dune while 5 per cent interest was paid. They have now adopted the old rates at his proposition. The Act says the new road must pay for itself, but of course any one can go over the old road if he please, at a cheaper rate, but he will have a much worse road, Well, the Xewcastle Union had been tried, and it had been ascertained, that the clerk, the surveyor, treasurer, and trustees, had all done their duty faithfully. Let all the Trust go through the same ordeal, but until their trial take place, it is unfair, unj ust, and unhonourable to cast out charges against them. If he knew of a blot on any Trust, he would at once say, there is the Trust and there is the blot, and he was quite sure every Trustee would lend his aid to expunge the blot. But this method of casting reflec- tions on the Turnpike Trusts, if not the way to redress grievances was no deubt a good pbn for creating a transient popularity. It may be done fur the purposc of bccoming popular, or it may be done in the hope of living securely while all around were attacked. But if it were so, that was no right feeling towards one's neighbour, and it should be remembered that there is a responsibility to a higher power. Our lots are all cast in perilous times, we are all bound together by every tie, the ycry humblest man owes his obedience to the law as much as the richest man. If they wish for a transient popularity, let them be answerable for it. It is a duty all owed that they should ubey the law, and have it administered with mercy. But he would ask, what mercy is there in midnight meeting, and torches ? What merc)" is there in murder ? He exhorted the farmers to live in peace together. He knew that the commercial stagnation affected the landlord deeply, but Ire also felt quite certain, that if asked, there was not a man on that Dcnch, but what would make an allowance on the audit day. (Cheers.) Let them go to their landlords they will be treated kindly, and this storm will then blow by and all will be as it was wont. Let the farmers recollect that by giving countenance to mid- night outrages they only placed themselves in the hands of a parcel of men who had nothing to lose, and who would turn round upon them and say, if you don't give me so and so, I have you in my power and will give information against you." He besought the farmers to go hand in hand with the landlords. If the Poor Law is objectionable, (and he knew it was, and had always lifted up his yoice against it from the com- mencement,) the way to obtain redress was to go to the legislature at once. If it were found that the plan would not succeed, then they might throw the poor law overboard, maintain their own poor, and make a road rate. The largest parish in Cardiganshire maintained its own poor, and kept them hedging instead of allowing them to go into the \orkhousc. And this course might be adopted everywhere if the law he not altered. He, however, was of opinion that there was no law in the statute book, but what might be altered if it was opposed in a eonstitutional and legal manner. He greatly regretted that the Hon. Baronet had made use of such unguarded expressions, which under present cir- cumstances could not be productive of much lrarm, anJ he had thought it his (Mr. D's) duty to poirt- out to the farmers the evil tendency of their midnight out- rages. He said this as one of them, as identified with them by birth, by habits, and everything else, and had nothing more to do, but to impress upon all the necEssity of peace ar.d obedicncc to the law. The chairman said that unless the perpetrators of the late outrages desist ed, the time would come when thev would find themselves involved in a contest with the government of the country. The arm of government would he sufficiently powerful to quell all disturbances and to punish the offenders. He made these ohserva- tions only in the spirit of friendly advice to the mis- guided persons who are led into evil because they had no strength of mind to resist. If they did not take care they would find themselves led on from delusion to de- lusion, and from pride to pride, until they would be over- taken by the law, and their once peaceful and indus- trious homes would be broken up, themselves torn from their homes and families, and doomed to spend their lingering dnvs in miserable exile. (HeaL) It was not for him to say there were no grievances, but if a scarch- ing investigation could discover and remedy them, not an hour should be lost in bringing them to light. He trusted all things would be done to restore peace ccn- sisfceivt with the principles of eternal justice. He might then hope to see restored to the county that peace which rests for its foundation on a happy and united people. (Cheers.) Col. Trevor said that he was altogether sorry that this discussion had arisen. The question however simply was whether the raising of a rate should be postponed till the next General Quarter Sessions. The amendment of the Hon. Bart. not having been seconded would fall to the ground, but it was in fact too late. The Police Force had been already established, and any person might now move for a mandamus to compel the magistrates to make the rate. Sir J. H. Williams said that he found his amendment came too late and he therefore withdrew it. He there- fore begged to enter his protest against the establish- ment of a Rural Police. The motion was then carried, and the Sessions was adjourned.
POVERTY OF THE CHURCH IN SOUTH…
POVERTY OF THE CHURCH IN SOUTH WALES.—GRANDMAMA'S REPLY. In The Times of last week there is the following ar- ticle:—We observed some time ago that Welsh griev- ances were beginning to enlarge they were confined to toll-bars at first lately they have taken in rents and tithes. What they will proceed to next we cannot say; but there is enough in these two additional materials to employ them for some time to come. We have already touched upon the former of these two; we come now to the latter, to which peculiar difficulties appear to attach. WTe wish to be impartial by all means. Fair play is a jewel; let all classes contribute their quota to the mollification of Welch grievances, be prepared to give up something to promote the general good, and to put things on a right basis again. Let Mr. A. and Mr. B., who are country squires, and let Mr. Y. and Mr. Z., who are mine-owners or iron-masters, look respectively to the state of rents and wages we will not be extortionate, but let them at any rate put their fingers into their pockets and think what they can do. That will do them no harm, though, if it stops theie, it will not do the farmers or operatives much good. But we have a di- fficulty when we come to the parsons we literally do not know what service to demand of the clergy on this head. An unfortunate parson may put his ringers into his pocket, hut-sad ftct!-he finds nothing when he has got them there, at least nothing to the purpose. He explores and explores he removes one obstacle after another, to see if there is anything at the pocket bottom he takes out one by one-what shall we say ? —an old sermon case or a bit of one, a clerical alman- ack, the key of his house-door, the key of his garden- door, a bunch of keys, and a stick-knife; and when he has removed all these articles and cleared the way, he finds at the very—very bottom of all, no bank-note. Meantime the crowd is pressing. Money, money, rev. Sir, a little of that mine of wealth which you have squeezed out of an impoverished population, a little of that extra abundance which is supporting you in the full dignity of parlour, kitchen, and garden-wall, pig- stye, and cow-shed. You are obviously exhuding with wealth, you repaired your brewhouse the other day, and you have dahlias before your windows. You might have cut off those superfluous luxuries, and so you must have something for us. Alas the unfortunate eccle- siastic pokes and stirs his coat pockets to their very foundation, and still cannot discover the bank-note. We repeat, we have a difficulty when we come to the parsons, and gravely put it to them, as we have done to the other classes, to think what they can do, and what they can give, for the public benefit. We can imagine how Mr. So-and-so, of hall, justice of the peace, &c., can allow of some investigation into his mode of rental, even though an income of some thousands and odd hundreds might just have the top of the latter compartment a little shaved. But seriously, how a country clergyman who has literally hardly enough to live upon, who is obliged to put up with the most inferior domestic accommodations, and live in a style in which no English clergyman would who can just afford a dinner every day in his house, and is at his very pocket's end to do that—how a Welsh parson, in short, can be expected to dock off anything from his miserably attenuated pittance for the good of his coun- try, or for any other object, we do not well see. Inves- tigate his sources of income as you like, examine and criticise the mode in which he collects his £ 12," or £ 7 10s," or £ï without the 10s, a-year tithe see if it can be done with any more leniency and consideration to the unfortunate church-oppressed parish you will not make much out of your trouble, and the result of the inquiry will hardly pay the commissioner's fee. Nor will it be tanti, if we even raise the sum of £,50, £ 60, £70. A clergyman with even X70 or £100, and a family, useful member of society as he is, is not one to contribute much to the exigencies of the state. Let tithes be a grievance, any grievance you like for argu- ment's sake, still, in this particular instance, there is an important question which should be first answered, viz., what tithes the IV, elsh clergy receive ? We have insensiblp changed our ground from the Welsh Church supposed to be grievance, to the Welsh Church as aggrieved. The fact is, it is ludicrous to view the matter in any other light any consideration whatever of the Welsh Church must end in regretting its miserable poverty. A class of lay impropriators swallow all up almost the tithes. In one case the layman receives ?970 a-year, and the clergyman J?7 in ano-I ther, the former receives E200 a-year, the latter M?/M?/. The tithes of 15 parishes round Aberystwith bring ?4000 a year into the purse of one lay impropriator, and leave but a third of that sum to be divided among the 15 clergymen. The unprincipled and atrocious rob- beries of Ilenry VIII. at the Reformation deprived the Welsh Church of all but a wretched shred of its former patronomy, and it has continued to this day the most feeble, melancholy, inefficient branch of o?r Church, t Single parishes extend over tens of thousands of acres (one near Aberystwith covers 32,000); and one man is almost expected to work a small county. We know that we are touching on tender ground here, and on which we cannot be too scrupulous. The lay impropriator has his right of prescription, and pre- scription is the right on which all the property in the country rests. We know also that the property of the Church has changed hands over and over again in a great number of cases since the original spoliation, and has become a regular market article, which the present purchaser bought at the market price of land, and holds as lie would the money in the funds which bought it. We know this. We know, on the other hand, that in many cases the same families are in possession of the land, who originally received it from the rapacious mo- narch's hands, or bought it when land was dirt cheap in the market in consequence of his robberies, some in direct, and many more through collateral lines. We see the fact before our eyes, and the original sacred ownership of such property has never been forgotten, and that with respect to some of our English families especially, it still continues a sort of popular stigma upon them. At all events, we see that the Welsh Church has wrong done to it-is placed in a feeble, dis- tressing position to the country; we see this as a fact, whoever is to blame—whoever is responsible for it, whether individuals, or the state, or society. A wrong is done, whoever are accountable for it, or whoever should amend it. In a word, the state of the Welsh Church is a Welsh grievance, though rather in a different sense from that in which some people would view it. It is a Welsh grievance, and it should rank as such. The peace of the country is now suffering visibly from it in the agita- tion which the dissent thus allowed to spring up is making. There is a general survey going on now of grievances; it seems considered that the different classes who have the property of the country in their hands should feel new responsilibities, enter into arrangements, and come forward for the redress or extenuation of them; and we simply suggest the state oftlte Church in W ales, amongst other subjects of complaint, as eminently deser- Ying of consideration and relief. GRANDMAMA's REPLY. The Morning Herald epparently being of opinion that the Times ought not to enjoy a monopoly in The State of South Wales" has despatched a reporter down here and in order to show that it is Grandmama's intention kindly to cover with her cloak all the higher classes and at the same time to kick all the others with the heel of her high shoe, the old lady flourishes her pen in fine style, as will be seen in the following abridged article; Under pretence,"—this same word pretence is an ill chosen one as it is evident that the Herald's whole article is nothing but pretence from beginning to end, it is perfectly plain that our contemporary is laughing in her sleeve at the part she is compeiled to play in this sham fight Under pretence of pitying the state of the Church in Wales, the Times, in reality, brings grave and unde- served accusations against the established clergy of the principality, and suggests as the remedy a system of spoliation. Now the only conclusions to which the statistics adduced by the Times' reporter of the relative cost of the Establishment and of dissent in Wales, and of the remarks he subjoins thereon, would seem to lead are, that a dissenting preacher who picks up from f40 to ECo a year is more diligent, pains-taking, and faithful than a pastor of the Church, who may recive from £ G0 to £ 100, and that as dissent on the whole taxes the people to double the amount of the Establishment, the pure creed of the latter fails in proportion, or rather more so, and that true religion is after all a matter of calculation, a mere mercantile transaction. Without denying for a moment the serious difficulties under which "the Welsh Church has laboured, it must be borne in mind that the progress made by dissent in Wales has been facilitated by the characteristics common to inhabitants of mountainous countries, who arc usually prone to both superstition and enthusiasm, and on whom, therefore, the wild doctrines, fervid rapture, and fre- quent inter-communings of the conventiclcrs were calculated to take strong hold. So sensible are the established clergy of this, that not a few of them, with a zeal which docs them honour, though suffered to outrun discretion, have been tempted to conform in some res- pects to the practices of dissent, to introduce cxtcm- por:mcon" prayer, to hold meetings on a Sunday out of 'church, and even occasionally to substitute a lecture In some building other than the church for the Church service. We mention these facts, not to subscribe our assent to such deviations from she straight path, which cannot be too strenuously discountenanced or too soon discontinued, but in proof of the zeal, even to supcrabun- dance, of many of these excellent men, who, to listen to the Times, one would suppose stinted their labour to their income, ancllikewise in curroboration of our views of the causes which have contI ibuted to the growth of dissent in Wales. That their scanty incomes may be doubled, and their numbers trebled, is our fervent wish but we cannot restrain our indignation that at this moment, when the laity are beginning to respond to the anxious call of the Welsh clergy in behalf of the Church, and when steps have been taken, with every prospect of final success, to secure their co-operation in plans that must redound to her welfare and honour, hints should be given of the desirability of an attack on property which no longer is, or can be, claimed by the Church, and the hazard be wantonly run of freezing the new- born feelings in her favour into lukewarmness, indiffe- rence, perhaps dislike. The poisoned shaft has been sped from Rome. Our contemporary, in its adoration of Tractarianism, has betrayed the secret. The resump- tion of what was once Church property is a fit accompaniment to the attempt to resume the power obtained by the Church in her unreformed state, through auricular confession. A little more, and we might expect to hear of the dying being forced by ghostly threats and denunciations to leave his relatives beggars in order to endow monkeries. Fortunately the sense and piety of the country are on the alert, and the Statute of Mortmain is not yet repealed. The deepest-dyecl Jesuit could not outdo the craft and cunning of the following We know we are touching on tender ground here, and on which we cannot be too scrupulous. The lay impropriator has his right of prescription, and prescription is the right on which all the property in the country rests. We know also that the property of the Church has changed hands over and over again in a great number of cases since the original spoliation, and has become a regular market article which the present purchaser bought at the market price of land, and holds as he would the money in the funds which bought it. We know this. ICe know, on the other hand, that in many cases the same families are in possessioti of the land who originally 2eceircd it from the rapacious Jlonarch's Juinds, or bought it when land was dirt clleap in the market-in consequence of his robberies, some in indirect, and mansf more through collateral lines. We see the fact before aeyes, that the original sacred ownership of such proper i:' has never banforgotten, and that WITH RESI'ECT TO SOME OF OUR ENGLISH FA- MILlES ESPECIALLY, IT ETILL CONTINUES A SORT OF POPULAR STIGMA UPON THEM. At a:l events, we see that the Welsh Church has wrong done to it-is placed in a feeble, distressing position to the country we see this as a fact, whoever is to blame—whoever is respon- sible for it, whether individuals, or the state, or society. A wrong is done, whoever are accountable for it, or whoever should amend it." Though the Tracts be silenced, Romanism speaks plainly enough in The Times. But its attention to the principality does not stop here. Our reporter" runs a mock at the landlords, and warming with the work, represents the Welsh to be en masse a nation of scoundrels. Here is the character he gives them :— Do me if you can. I will try my best to do you believe me if you like you are a fool if you do 1 should be very sorry to believe you; this seems the universal creed of the people your reporter has now the happiness to dwell amongst!! According to this second Cato, landlord and tenant, gentle and simple, laird and loon, are all alike devoid of honour, honesty, and shame, bent on overreaching one another, acknowledging no other creed than that of interest. In the name of our slandered countrymen we repeal the odious falsehood; as firm adherents of the Church we protest against the invidious attempt of the Times to fasten upon her one of the worst principles c f Popery and as supporters of public order should stig- matise its endeavours to increase and prolong the dis- content prevailing among the humbler classes of our Welsh countrymen as revolutionary, if we were not con- vinced that they are simply maniacal.
?, THE SABBATH AND THE SOLDIERS—CHARGE…
? THE SABBATH AND THE SOLDIERS—CHARGE AGAINST SOME OF TIlE 4th LIGHT DRAGOONS. In the Times of Thursday, the 7tll mst. there is the following correspondence. The first letter is addressed to the Editor of that paper Sir,—In The Times of the 31st of August I observe a statement conveying an imputation against the officers of the troop of the 4th Light Dragoons at Llandovery. As captain of that troop, I must request you to publish forthwith this letter, as also the enlosed letter and declaration, signed by the principal inhabitants of this town, which will refute that part of the statement made by your reporter as to our having scandalized the town's-people, and been thereby deprived of any atten- tion from them. With regard to the remainder of the paragraph, I most distinctly assert th'atfthe officers neither openly played quoits on Sunday morning, nor played with and treated the town's blackguards with gin; and further, that no imformati?n was .laid against the officers nor their game prevented by the policeman. I am, Sir,-your obedient servant, ?LEX?'DER LOW, Captain of the ^h Light Dragoons, Captain ot' the 4e,li T *?,'iit Dragoon, Llandovery, Sept. 4. [We omit the concluding paragraph, imputing motives to our reporter, as we have received from him an explanation of the circumstance referred to, which gives a totally different version of the whole affair. With regard to the declaration" of the inhabitants, it will be observed that it contains no refutation what- ever of the principal charges made by our reporter. The question is, whether or no the officers played quoits at all, at the time stated, in the presence of other peo- ple whether or no the police interfered, and, if so, on what occasion and whether or no any treating of the town's-people took place.] -ED. Llandovery, Sept. 4. My dear Sir,—Having, in common with the other inhabitants of the town, felt highly indignant at the statement contained in The Times of the 31st. that there had been anything in the conduct of the officers which had prevented the inhabitants paying them any attention or courtesy, I trust you will receive a declaration, which I send herewith, denying, on the part of the inhabi- tants, the existence of any such feeling, or any cause for it on yours. The feeling among all classes in the town is, that the paragraph relating to the officers is most unj ustifiable, and the insinuations contained in it against the officers most unfounded; for, without at all approving of your playing quoits on Sunday, from all I can learn from the policeman and otherwise, I am satisfied the whole story of playing with any of the town blackguards, or treating them to gin, is a perfect fabrication, as well as the inference that you played in any public place, or in such a manner as to be a scandal to any- o.-ie. I regret that so many of the respectable people of the town are from home at this moment, for I am quite certain that the Messrs. Jones, the bankers, Mr. Jones, of Vilendre, and Mr. Morgan, would have great pleasure in adding their names to the short denial we have given of your having done aught which, as gentlemen, would induce us to fight shy of you, but really on the contrary. I am, my dear Sir, yours very truly. CHARLES BISHOP." "Captain Low, Castle, Llandovery." "TO THE OFFICERS COMMANDING THE TROOP OF HER MAJESTY'S 4 VII LIGHT DRAGOONS QUARTERED AT LLAN DOVERY. "We, the undersigned inhabitants of the town of Llandovery, having seen the paragraph in The Times newspaper of the 31st of August, representing that your conduct had been such as to cause the courteous attention' which ofifcers of the army generally receive and merit to be withheld from you, deem it right to state, that during the time you have been in the town, so far from having sce:i cause to withhold any courtesy or attention from yo.r, ,ve have felt it a pleasure, from your conduct and demeanour, to pay you every attention in our power. D. LI. Harris, Mayor, D. Morgan, E. Lloyd, J. Morris, W. Davies, David' Rees, H" Jones, W. Williams, Surgeon, W. R. S. Williams, D. Price. W. J. Evars, W. Evans, W. Goulstone, D. Thomas, W. Waltcis, H. LI. Harris, C. Bishop, W. Rees, R. Williams, D. R. Rees, Postmaster." The Times of last Monday has the following rejoinder from the Reporter with the remarks of the editor him- self on it:- Sir,—I beg permission through your columns to an- swer certain letters which have been sent to you from Llandovery denying a statement made by me, that the officers now stationed at that place had disgraced them- selves by openly playing quoits, on a Sunday as the people were going t) church, and had played with and treated the town's blackguards who were looking on with gin. -1 Mark, how a plain statement shall put these letter- writers down," and, if they have one spark of manliness about them, they will, after this, despise themselves. On arriving at Llandovery I called on one of the ma- gistrates whose name appears amongst the firs: on the -,I e 11 dec l -,t 11 list of those who signed the declaration'" stating the conduct and demeanour" of the officers to deserve every attention in their power." From this gentle- man at his table, I first heard of the Sunday quoit play- ing, and the giving of gin, with this addition The officers complain we don't show them any attention I have not felt it necessary to do so but, for God's sake don't mention my name. You will hear of the circum- stance in plenty of places in the town if you wish to mention it. I tell you this in confidence, as a gentle- man." Under these circumstances, I, of course, sought for my information elsewhere, and feel bound not to publicly mention this gentleman's name. But from the extraordinary fact of this gentleman's name appear- ing amongst the first of those who have signed this de- claration, I, in justice to myself, furnish you with his name nnd agldress. I proceed down the li^t. The son of one of the first half-dozen gentlemen who have signed this declaration" was named to me as one of those who played quoits on the second Sunday with these officers. I forbear to name him publicly but I send his name to you. One of the last half-dozen men who signed that de- claration afterwards saw me, repeated to me the whole of the same story I had heard before, with the addition that the vicar, after the second Sunday's scandalous exhibition, called on the officers, and represented to them the grave impropriets of their conduct, and that this had the effect of putting a stop to any further simi- lar exhibitions. He also begged of me not to mention his name, in any use I might make of his information. Publicly I will not; I will not break my word. English- men will scarcely credit that this same gentleman after the statement was published wrote to me, begging of me not to mention his name as my authority, as it would seriously injure him, and concluded with'a request that I would destroy his letter. From the complexion things were taking, I knew better. I forward you his letter. And now I will name my public authority, and I call public attention to it, in order that a very efficient and straightforward officer-one who learned in England how to be honest, may not be suffered to be injured for having manfully done his duty. After hearing these statements I sent for the inspec- tor of police, and 1 took my note and my authority from what this man, in the proper discharge of his duty, himself did in the transaction. lie told me precisely the unadorned statement which I gave you, with this addition, that two bottles of gin were brought out of the castle and distributed, that he himself took the quoits from Captain Low, and that Captain Low abused him, asked him what business he had with the quoits," and said they were his." The policeman further said, that he had laid the case before the magistrates, con- ceviving it to be his duty to do so, and they declined interfering." But I davc not yet done. One of these letters is signed by one "Charles Bishop," I believe a magistrate. In Mr. Rees's, the postmaster's, shop I met this gen- tleman the policeman was also there, and one of the parties whose name I have forborne to mention. To Ir. Charles Bishop himself I narrated openly, in the pre- sence of the policeman, in the presence of Mr. Rees and of another person, all that I told you, for the express purpose of testing its accuracy. Did Mr. Charles Bishop indignantly deny it as a fabrication? lIlr. Charles Bishop, who now comes forward, from motives which the public will appreciate, to deny my statement, v as silent; he said not a word, but tacitly acquiesced in its truth. Heave English geetlemrn to form what conclusion they think right from this simple statement of facts. I know it is unpleasant for men to have their delin- quencies exposed. Officers and magistrates like it no better than other men. The English public will appre- ciate the motives for this 'mean combination, and, like myself, despise it. As for the personal insinuations which may have been sent to you by Captain Low, and which I under- stand he is industriously circulating here, I treat them with the utmost scorn. So long as you do me the honour of intrusting to me the responsible office I fill, I shall fearlessly discharge my duty. I remain, Sir, respectfully, YOVl REPORTER. To the Editor of the Timcs. In the course of the observations on this letter the editor of The Times remarks that it is "courmatorv of his [the reporter's] previous statement respecting the Sunday amusements of some officers at Llandovery. We will not ourselves make any comment upon the conduct of the persons who arc named in his communi- caion; but we are convinced that all Welshmen who feel for the honour and manly courage of their country- men will need no suggestive remarks of ours to desig- nate this conduct by its proper name. We are happy (continues The Times) that our reporter's pre- cision has supplied us with so many particulars in con- nection with the mean and paltry falsehoods which were employed for the purpose of throwing discredit upon his veracity. Not that we ever entertained the most dis- tant or remote doubt of his perfect credibility, for he has performed his duty to us with unswerving diligence and truthfulness but we arc glad that we have now before us such clear and distinct references to individuals as must remove all doubt from the minds of those whom the letter-writers of Llandovery might otherwise have succeeded in mystifying; for a doubt having once attached to a part, would soon have extended itself to the whole of his report, and the moral effect which has been produced in England by the notice which the press-and not the least this journal—has taken of the Welsh movement, would have been materially impaired. And such a result, we consider, would have been a very unfortunate one to both parties engaged in the present conflict. <If We believe—and some little experience ofsoutli AV, elsh character warrants the belief—that had we never spoken out as we have done, not only would there have been no meetings to consider the peculiar grievances of the farmers, as at Carmarthen, Swansea, and Haverfordwest, but also that no Dissenting preachers would have ven- tured to lecture the people upon the cowardice of noc- turnal disguise and the wickedness of nocturnal violence. While we arc on this subject we would briefly refer to the meeti^ at IIavcrfurtl'.r;st, and advise the gentlemen who arc re1.1rr on string justice dore to the farmers to lose no time in quarrelling among themselves, but to set to work and see right done as soon as possible. Let them recollect, that whatever may be the advantages of the present road from Haverfordwest to Fishguard, the people-or at least the majority of them—who use the road are very poor and let them also be on their guard against concocting anything like a legal job in a place where it is impossible the look out of any given window without seeing at least a brace of attornies.
TOLLS—HEARTLESS WORK.
TOLLS—HEARTLESS WORK. It appears, that of the whole debt incurred by one trust for the year lis. 8d., only 1:11. was expended in labour for repairing the road, and about 18s. on materials. Of the rest, no less than £ 175. was thrown away on lazo expences; which expcnces include the defence of some constables, who were pro- secuted for extra-official violence to certain farmers, and whom the result of the prosecution proves to have been in the wrong. Tr 11-bars are now sinking in importance as a griev- ance in fact, most of them are either down or abolish- ecl and objections to the New Poor Law and to tithes, and to high rents, are beginning to stand in the front rank The tithe-payers now say, « We arc detcrnined that no clergyman shall receive more than £ 100. a year from tithes." As an instance of the alarming tone which the feeling of the people is taking, the Times corresponeent states, that a grave has been elug in Dynevor park, near Llan- dilo, the seat of Lord Dynevor, the father of Colonel Trevor, the Vice Lieutenant of the county, that and a notice has been sent to Colon el Trevor that it is intended for him and that he is to be laid in it before the 10th of October.
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• TURNTIKE TRUSTS IN WALES.—It appears, from a recent parliamentary return, that there was only one Turnpike Trust in Wales that had no bounded debt in 1840. There were in that year four trusts whose revenue was insufficient to pay ? per cent. on their bonded debt, their a?gre?atc tolls brng f 4?3 and their bonded I debt f 13,9/7. There were Üve WcLh trusts unable to pay E,5 per cent. on their bonded debt and arrears accruing within six years; their aggregate tolls in 1840 were E693, their bonded debt £ 17,580 arrears of interest within six years £ 3,658; total, £ 21,238. There were seven Welsh trusts whose revenues were insufficient to pay E5 per cent. on their bonded and total arrears of interest; their aggregate tolls in 1840 were £ 1015; bonded debt, £ 20,968; arrears of interest, ES,83 I total, £ 29,849. In 1840, there were forty-one Welsh trusts having arrears of interest not exceeding six years, amounting in the aggregate to £ 21,344; and six other trusts with arrears of interest exceeding six years, amounting in the aggregate to £2;),57G. There are seventeen Welsh trusts that can discharge their debts within thirty years, namely, one within five years, two within ten years, six within fifteen years, three within twenty years, three within twenty-five years, and two within thirty years. The following are amongst the Welsh trusts that have borrowed money on mortgage of the tolls since 1836, the amounts borrowed, and their toll income in 1840 :— Amount Toll Income borrowed in 1840 Carmarthen and Newcastle. 1000 1119 Carmarthen and Tivyside 300 RU Cardiff .?.?'?? 100 1931 Neath 200 1100 The sum total borrowed in the period above mentioned is E19,470 and the total income The sum borrowed is equal to two-thirds of their annual income from tolls but this amount borrowed does not include arrears of interest, &c. PARLIAMENTARY BOROUGHS.—By a list of the popu- lation of the parliamentary cities and boroughs and dis- tricts of boroughs returning members to parliament, according to the census (excluding in each case the inmates of all public institutions, barracks, &c. ), we find that the largest parliamentary borough population is that of the Tower Hamlets, 419,730; and the small- est, Bridgnorth (Salop), 1,9;31. THE COUNTY-RATE.—We are rejoiced to find that the work of County-Rate Reform goes bravely on. Mr. Donkin, of By well, the indefatigable and not-to-be-put- diwn champion of County-Rate Reform, says :—" I wish some system of action between the several counties of England, who consider their burden a great oppression, could be established. If it were possible to form a committee in each county, which would enter into corres- pondence on the subject, numerous petitions to the Legislature might be simultaneously presented, praying that -lie disbursement of the county-rates should be placed in responsible authorities, entirely apart from the -Magistrates, without intcrferin!¡ with their judicial functions, and that they should have no hand in the appropriation of the public money, unless they were elected by the voice of the ratepayers, with others, for that special purpose. Think of this." This is good advicc, and, if acted upon extensively and earnestly, as we have no doubt it will be, will he productive of :mmense good.
TO THE EDITOR OF THE "WELSHMAN."…
TO THE EDITOR OF THE "WELSHMAN." Sm,-Ignorance has been held up as a prevailing fault among the Welsh. Not only has this been laid to their charge by their more enlightened neighbours, but even their own countrymen have joined in the general taunts, while at the same time they are revel- ling in the produce of their labours; they first deprive them of every means of acquiring the benefits of educa- tion, by extorting from them their hard earnings, and then lay the crime of their ignorance upon their own heads. What cruel treatment! If they are ignorant, necessity of the worst kind, and of which they have had no part in creating makes them so, and nothing but the removal of those wrongs which have to a most melan- choly extent been indulged in will give to them an opportunity of removing this stigma which is unjustly attached to their conduct, and make them what they were before peaceable, and obedient. Their poverty will never be removed by taking from them the little they have. The peaceable conduct of their lives, for which they arc almost proverbial, will not be encouraged by imposing on their patience and making their silence cause of oppression. They have remained quiet under the most open infringements of their rights and the most flagrant robbery on their property, and those gross inconsistences scarcely unequalled in the annals, of our nation increasing year after year, have taught them to call into exercise their own strength finding it altoge- ther impossible to get assistance from any other quarter to raise themselves from the awful state of degradation, into which they arc sunk. To whatever unpardonable extent of injustice in the jobbery of the toll-gate system have the petty squires of our county taken part in, yet nothing could induce them to desist from their nefarious practices. There was sufficient time given to them as well as the magistrates, to put a stop to those proceed- ings which were so loudly complained of, but week after week, and month after month have rolled away, and the frequent outbreaks, which continually came to their knowledge, through the means of the press, and which daily threatened us, have been treated with silent con- tempt, till at last the dissatisfaction has manifested, itself in our own neighbourhood and has involved us in those outbreaks which have deluged other counties. Now forsooth we hear the complaint in almost a des- ponding tone, why not make known your grievances that they may be redressed," while they know very well that the only answer that has been given to all their complaints, have been the threats of the law, & initiated by their rulers into this kind of treatment, they have adopted the same plan, and have even began to put their threats into execution. Here we are now reduced almost to a state of anarchy and confusion. A dis- ruption of all social and relative duties is evidently near, and will ultimately take place unless timely prudence be exercised in granting to the people their lawful rights and in shielding them from injustice. Sept 5th, 1843.
REBECCA ItEGINA !
REBECCA ItEGINA The following address to those on whom "Rebecca" hath paid a visit, is published for the first time in The Welshman. Oh! then I see Queen Bee hath been with you, She is the law's corrective, and she comes In shape, alike the amazon heroines of old, Athwart her prancing milkwhite steed, Led by her brawny children to the spot, Which needs the help of her corrective hand, Her whip of horse's hide—the lash of wire, Her heel's well spurr'd—her brows adorn'd With graceless curls, and ringlets brown, And in this state she gallops night by night O'er Wallia's mountains and through Wallia's vales Startling the oppressor from the night's repose, Whom in her course the angry Bee with blisters plagues Because her children feel The oppressor's wrongs, the proud man's contumely, The pangs of the despis'd—the law's delay, The insolence of office, and the spurns That patient merit of the unworthy takes." Sometimes she gallops o'er the turnpike road To where a toll-gate has been newly plac'd, And this she levels to the ground- And sometimes comes she with a tithe pig's tail, Tickling the parson's nose as he lies asleep, Then dreams he of submission to his tithe, But wakes to find, his claims are all withheld. Sometimes she travels to the miser's lurk, And seeks his speedy sale of hoarded corn, To give the poor a little bread, To which the wretch obedience promptly pays. Sometimes with prattling baby on her lap, (Whom some despised fair one Cast forth to the chill mountain air, hath borne to lust) She calls on worthless Pa—and begs attention To his Brut-forgotten feelings now arise Within his breast—the child is warmly prest And sheltered 'neatli its own paternal roof, Too much for Bee—she drops a tear At her success—and then retires. But need I tell you more ? Is not her fame Through Europe sounded far ? Hath not Victoria's Majesty from England's throne, Deign'd recognition of our heroine's pranks, While troops at arms are sent to put her down ? But still she reigns-alike triumphant And alike admired—she is that very Bee That Welshmen long have sought, And r.iw have found. T. L.
-1 -¡.-r;-='LONDON GAZFITTE.
-1 -¡.-r;-=- LONDON GAZFITTE. BANKRUPTS.—( Friday, Sept. 8. )—J. G. Forstcr, Aid- gate, Iligh-strcet, tailor.-A. Leslie and W. Smith, St. Duntan's hill, merchants.—L. and W.Fcnner, Fmciiurch street, mrrchants.-It. Murphy, Manchester, draper. BANKRUPTS.—(Tuesday, Sept. 12.)—Richard Sharp, jun., draper, Faversliam. -Charles Pearsall, boiler maker, Anderton, Chester.—Thomas Johnson, draper, Great Bridge, Staffordshire. — William James Holt, grocer, Grantham, Lincolnshire.
TO READERS AND CORRESPONDENTS.
TO READERS AND CORRESPONDENTS. 1 READERS arc desired to observe that we do not deem ourselves responsible for cither the language or senti- ments of correspondents. 2 CORRESPONDENTS whose communications arecurtaile 1 or omitted, are requested, always to refer such curtail- ment, or omission to the Printers' want of time and space. We seldom receive any communication wholly unworthy of -.t place in our columns but every post brings more letters than we possibly can nnd room for. Accounts of LOCAL occurrences are always welcome. No unpaid letter is received nor any unpaid puffcrv, inserted. Paragraphs promotive purely of private in- terest or personal gratification are of course always paid for. All letters ought to be addressed to the Editor and if an answer is sought, post office labels should be enclosed. Facts unauthenticated by rea- signature and address can receive no attention. Para- graphs of GENERAL interest will always be well re- ceived and highly appreciated. Every nuptial and obituary notice must be short or if long, a post- office order with it will be required. Resolutions are advertisements and must be paid for accordingly. We desire to supply our readers with the largest pos- sible quantity of PUBLIC Intelligence; and to accom- plish this object, limits arc necessarily prescribed to merely individual ends and private purposes. 3 The Proprietors of the Welshman" are not answer- able for the non-arrival of papers posted from their office, and in order to simplify accounts they desire it to be distinctly understood that the shortest term of sub- scription is three months. Moreover if any person desiring to discontinue the Welshman," and who is at the same time indebted to its Proprietary would give effect tohis wish, he must, of course, contemporaneously send a Post-Office Order for the liquidation of his debt. 4 AGENTS are requested to recollect that the shortest term of subscription is a qiiarter and that every "discon- tinuance" ought to be accompanied by a Post-Office Order. The charge for inserting an advertisement is determined by the space it occupies, according to a fixed scale, beginning at five shillings for eight lines and under. The price of admission to our columns for paragraphs (not in our advertising columns) is equally moderate. 5 The publisher of this paper intimates to such of its non-subscribers as write for one or more papers that the money for the same must accompany the request; sixpence must be enclosed for a single paper. 6 POST-OFFICE ORDERS.—To the convenience of Post- Office Orders, the attention of our agents and the public in general is particularly pointed these orders avoid account-keeping, and preserve a good understanding between all parties. An order may be obtained at the Post-office as follows :-For any sum not exceeding L2-3cl., above £ 2 and not exceeding E-5-6d. December 9th, 1842.
WEEKLY CALENDAR.
WEEKLY CALENDAR. Tun MOON'S CHANGES.—Last Quarter, on the IGth of September, at llh. 13m. after. The Moon rises, Sept. IC).- ()Il. 36m. A.M. I Sept. 19. morn. A.M. 17.— 10h. 36m. —— 2 >. lb. 2m. 18.— llh. 40111. 21. 2h. 2,21)1. The Sun rises. I Clock after Sun. The Sun sets. Sept.18. 5h 40m. 5m. 46 sec. 611. F m. 21. 5h. 45m. 6m. 49 sec. 6h. 1m. after Trinity. Proper lessons, morninr, Jer. 5, Matt. 18; evening, Jer. 22 1 Cor. 21. Sept. 21.-St. Matthew,—Length of day, 12h. IC)ni. day's decrease from the longest dày,!h. 181li.; day breaks, 3h. 49m.; twilight ends, 7h. 5Gm. 3)1. t 9 ri. cli cs, iii. 5Ciii. TIDE TABLE. HIGH WATER at BRISTOL, during the week. '?C?/w &C7- ??? ?t?<- ?,?0T? A?.-CM?? Gafes_ Gates. H M. II. lIr. FT. INC. FT. INC. SEPT. 16 10 28 10 54 22 5 11 2 17 11 7 11 49 20 1 8 10 18 — 0 42 19 4 8 1 19 1 4(5 2 02 20 3 9 0 20 3 2G 3 52 23 3 12 0 21 4 34 4 57 26 7 13 4 22 o 32 5 5) 29 7 IS 4 EQUATION OF THE TIDES.—These equations, applied Eo.UA.Tiox or THETinr:s.— to the above table, will give the approximate times of HIGU WATER AT THE FOLLOWING PLACES:—■ II. M. n. M. Aberystwith add 0 15 Holyhead add 2 45 Carmarthen-bay ..sub. 1 5 Liverpool add 4 6 Cardigan-bar .sub. 0 15 Lundvlsle sub. 1 45 C.ir(l.ilf-ro,-t(Is.. 055 ?lilfor(I lltven 131) Carnarvon add 1 45 Newport, Mon -ub. 0 30 Chepstow- sub. 013 Swansea-bar sub. 1 15 Fi?hgua!d-bay.Af?. 030 Thames' mouth, .sub. 5 15
THE CROPS, AGRICULTURE, MARKETS,…
THE CROPS, AGRICULTURE, MARKETS, &c. (From the Mark Lane Express of Sept. 11.) Fourteen days of uninterrupted fine weather have en- abled farmers to make surprising progress with harvest operations, and upwards of one half of the whole of the wheat grown in England is, we believe, safely in stack or barn. The late powerful sunshine must likewise have benefited the quality considerably, and the result is likely to be far more satisfactory than could, a few weeks ago,. have been imagined. Even under these circumstances, however, it is still questionable whether the produce of wheat will amount to an average in quantity, and it is already proved by the samples which have hitherto been exhibited at the different markets, that a large proportion is of inferior quality. Takiug into consideration, there- fore, tho smallness of the stocks of old wheat, and the check which will speedilybe given to further importation from abroad by an augmentation of duty, we are disposed to think that the trade will recover, in some degree, from the depression under which it at present labours. Unless the yield proves much greater than is generally expected, a further importation from abroad ere long will be i-eqtiirecl and, all circumstances considered, ii7niav safely be inferred that prices have for the present touched the lowest point. With regard to the yield, the accounts do not improve indeed, complaints of a material defi- ciency continue to reach us from those quarters where thrashing has made most progress. Our conviction that prices cannot easily be further depressed, is principally groun ded on the very reduced state of the stocks of old grain, and the certainty that as regards wheat, the total quantity likely to be entered previous to the duty rising again, will be less than would suffice for a fortnight's consumption. At some of the principal markets in the agricultural districts, held since our last, fair supplies of new wheat have been brought forward: everywhere the quality is described as inferior to that of last year, and the weight 21bs. to 31bs. per bushel lighter; this, with the cautious manner in which millers have acted, has obliged farmers to submit to a decline of Is. to 2s. per qr., and the averages consequently come down. CORN EXCHANGE, LONDON, ISEPT. 11. s. s. S. s • Wheat, Engl., red 42 to 52 Oats, Engl.Poland 19 — 2f A'hite 4C, -56 Potatoe 21—25 Foreign. 43—57 Feed. 17—19 Do. whit( 45 -60 Scotch Angus 20—22 Barley, Malting. :U-32 Irish Galway. 13—16 Chevalier 32 3r, -NVhite 17-20 T ) i,,t i l l Distilling 32—32 Foreign Feed. 16—20 Grinding. 28 00 Tares pr. bnsl/is. 6d Gs. 6d. Beans, Tick 29-31 Rapes.ccd 281. t0291. Do. old 34-35 per last of 10 qrs. Harrow. 32 -34 Cloyerscrd,red.for. 42-66 old 35—36 White, do. Foreign. 32-35 English 42—60 Peas, Boiling 32—34 Linseed,Baltic and White 30—32 Russii 30-33 Hcrg 32 — 33 Flour, Town-made Maple 32-33 and best country Malt, Brown 52-56 marks. 45 50 Chevalier 61-64 Stockton .38-40 Pale. 59 -61 Xorf. & Suffolk. :3ï -40 Rye, English 45-60 Duty on Flour, pr. brl. 12s. Whe?t Barley Oats. Eye. Beans Peas Av?r??eof I Oil' Ii weeks j which regu- j ? 28 4 19 4 ?? 4 6' 31 9 latesthedu- 4 6 31 9 b'?.?' 200 9 0 7 0 10 G 11 0 10 6 Ditto on rain from British pos- sessions uut ot Euyop,?.. 5 0 20 2 02 611 LONDON AVERAGES. £ s. d. £ s. d. Wheat.. 4,730 qrs.2 16 7 Rye. 80 qrs. 1 9 4 Barley.. 4,730 qrs.2 1 19 6 2 7 I Beans.. 938 1 12 0 Oats 24,914 0 19 6 Peas 313 1 16 2 GENERAL AVERAGE PRICE OF CORN. [Declared Thursday Morning.] Week ended Sept. 2.—Imperial—General Weekly Average,-Wheat, 54s. 2d; Barley, 32s. lid; Oats, 20s. 5d Rye, 31s. Id Beans, 31s. 4d; Peas, 32s. id. Aggregate Average of six weeks which governs Duty. Wheat, 58s. 4d.; Barley, 32s. 6d.; Oats, 21s. Id.; Rye, 35s. 3d.; Beans, 31s. lid.; Peas, 33s. 3d.. Duty on Foreign Corn.—Wheat, 14s Od; Barley, 6s. Od; Oats, 6s. Od; Rye, 7s. Cel; Beans, 10s. Gd; Peas, Is. 6d. PRICES OF BREAD. The prices of Wheaten Bread in the Metropolis are from 8d. to 9d.; of Household ditto, 6d. to 7 id. per 41bs. loaf. SMITHFIELD CATTLE MARKET, SEPT. 11. (Per 81bs.,—to sink the offal.) s. d. s. d. I s. d. s. d. Best Scots, &c.4 0 4 2 Long-woolledwe.3 8 0 0 Useful ditto .3 8 3 10 j Ewes ditto 3 800 Best Short Horns3 10 4 0 Inferior Ewes 3 0 3 4 Useful ditto .3 6 0 0 Lambs 4 0 4 8 Best Fat Cows ..3 6 0 0 Calves 0 0 0 0 -,Tiia l l Porker 0 000 Best Downs &c.4 042 Small Porkers.. 0 0 0 0 NEWGATE AND LEADENHALL, SEPT. 11. At per Slbs. by the carcass. Tnff-rior Bcefon Od Inf. Mutton Os Od Os Od M;ddlin? do.,3s Od 3s 2d Middling 3s 2d 3s 4d Prime 3s 4d 3s 6d I Prime ditto 3s 6d 3s 8d Pork, 0s 0d Os Od Veal 3s 8d 4s 4d V cry supcriorOs Od Os Od Lamb 4s Od 4s 4d PRICE OF TALLOW, &c. 1843. 1842. 1841. 1840. Stock this day 19,604.18,048, .10.2-24..22,734 Delivery last week 2,252. 1,6,53.. 2,->20. 2,739 Ditto from 1st ,Tunc. 18,829.15.419..22,089.17,269 Arrival last week. 1,773. 1,105.. 706. 3,182 Ditto from 1st June, 19,210. 14,213..19,177.24,535 Price this day:— 1813.. 1S42. 1841. 1840. old -s o(I to o(I New 42s Oll to 3d 47s 9d to 4Ss 3d 4Ss 6d to — s Od 52s Gd to— Ditto Town last Friday :— lis Gd to-s 0d50 Od to—s Od 50s0d to -s 0d55s 6d to-s Od CURRENT PRICE OF HOPS, SEPT. 11. The accounts from the Hop districts still come more favourable, consequently the market is heavy. We have had in all about 24 pockets of new Hops at market. The Kcnts have sold from L7 tOs. to ES 8s. per ewt., and the Sussex from £1) 10s. to JE7 per cwt. Duty E150,000. We may expect a fair supply next week. RAW HIDES AND SIIEBP SKINS. d. d. I s. d. s. d. -Nl:irket Ilicles per lb. 4?? 000 Middling hides 3 3} Lambs 1 9 2 0 Ordinary. 2,,L 34 l'opg Wool .16 2 0 CalrSkins,<lhoye10lbs. 1 Dm;s.l'O 1? cachweH-nayed7s.Od.Os.Od. Pelts 0 0 0 0 LONDON HAY MARKET.—SATURDAY. Smithfield. Whitechapcl Coarse Meadow Hay. 80s 85s 80s 90 Clover Hay SOS lo,s 84s 108 Wheat Straw 46s 48s 44s 46 Fine Upland and Rye Grass ..95.3 100s 96s 100 PRICES OF SOAP. Y cHow Soap 44s Odto 18sOd McltingSt.uff31s Odto—s.Od Mottled do. 50s Od..52s.0d I Rough ditto. 20s Odto—s.Od Curd do 60s Od.. Os.Od Graves, 14s. and good dregs, 5s. per cwt.; Rough Fat, average 2s. 5d. per 81bs. PRICES OF LEATHER AT LEADENHALL. per Ib. per lb. Raised Butts ..15d to 17d Basils .5d 8d Crop hides,3,35. 12d 12 'id ii.IPS.-East India. Do. do. 40 to 45..12 14d lbs. d. d. Do. do. 50 to 60.,13d 16d DrysaltedBest5to7 17 19 Foreign Butts ..lid 15d Ditto ditto 7 9 15 171 English do. 14d 21d Ditto, seconds. 12 15 Dressing Hides ..lid 13d Ditto, thirds 9 11 Do. do. shaved ,13d IG.id KIPS.-Petersburqh. Saddlers' Hides.,13d 15d Unshaved. Shaved. HerseTlides,Eng. lbs. lbs. d. d. d. d. and German ..Ild 15d 4 to 7.. 17tol8..17 '>fol'i) Horse, Spanish.. 15d 24d 7 8.. 16 17..16.J 17i do.withoutButtsOs 0d,13s0d 9 10..15 10.. 16 16i Seal Skins 13d 18d 11 13..14 13i
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