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MEETING ON MYNYDD MAW R. j

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MEETING ON MYNYDD MAW R. j Yesterday a very large meeting of Farmers, farm la- bourers, colliers, and others, was hetd at TIryn-llyn-llech- Owen, Mynydd Mawr, or the Great Mountain, about 1-5 miles from Carmarthen. The scenery around the spot where the meeting was held is exceedingly romantic. The brown heath, relieved by rocky crags, erecting their stupendous heads on all sides; the large sheet of water known as Owen's lake, and the wood-crowned heights in the distance, all tend to impress the mind with a vivid sense of the singular beauty of the prospect. A curious legend attaches to this spot and its recital may not prove uninteresting. Several centuries ago and during the pericd when the Welsh were at deadly war with their Saxon antagonists, no chief was more conspicuous for his determined valour and desperate feats of arms that Owen Law-goch (Owen with the Red Hand) so called from his ha.ving- been born with his hand red from the wrist down. His valorous onslaughts on the hereditary foes of his native land were invariably crowned with success, and he began to achieve a corresponding influence among his coun- trymen. He was however unfortunately betrayed into an ambush, all his followers were put to the sword and he himself only escaped by means of the cx- ertion of the most desperate acts of valour, A price was set on his head, and he was obliged to take refuge in a cavern said to exist near the lake on Mynydd Mawr. There he subsisted for a length of time on roots'and herbs, and for many years after his death the popular belief was that he was only in a slumber, from which he would awake when his country was so oppressed as to need his assistance. Such is the legend of Owen with the Red Hand. The morning of yesterday was wet and miserable and at the appointed hour of meeting (12 o'clock) there were scarcely 600 people present on the ground. After waiting some time however the numbers gradually in- creased until there could not have been less than between 200t) and 3000 present, most of whom were respectable farmers. Mr. Hugh Williams proposed that John Morgan, Esq., Of Glanrynys, should take the chair this was seconded by Mr. Thomas, of Llwynpiod, and carried unani- mously. Mr. Hugh Williams, then rose and congratulated the mceting on ha.vi;-¡g secured as their chairman, so res- pectable a freeholder and farmer as Mr. Morgan. It had fallen again to his (Mr. W's) lot to state the objects of the meeting to the large assemblage. It was well known that the people had for a great length of time been suffering under serious grievances, and that they had borne their various burdens, if not with -contentment, at least in silence, until at length their poverty had redu- ced them to such a low estate that their discontent had broken out into loud complaints. Their object therefore was to endeavour to ascertain their grievances and then to adopt some method f"r obtaining redress. The first grievance he should draw their attention to was that of the Turnpike Tolls. They all knew that a multiplicity of gates had been erected in the county, and had entailed great and undeniably vexatious oppressions on the far- men. They had resisted the imposts and their resistance had given rise to a series of outrages, which had un- fortunately now assumed a most desperate character. He hoped however that in a very short time the county would be restored to its wonted tranquillity and peace. The farmers were, in consequence of the excessive exactions by way of tolls, and also in consequence of the great reduction in the prices of agricultural produce, scarcely able to find means to procure manure for their farms. Amongst the resolutions he should propose to the meeting was one on this subject. The next grievance was the New Poor Law, The voice of the country was decidedly opposed to this law, which had evidently been enacted by the upper classes of society for pecu- niary objects, and had entailed great misery, there was great repugnance to it on the part of all the people. They had seen the evils of having the Union House at a distance from the remote parts of the Union. The con- sequence was that the guardians of distant parishes could not attend regularly enough at the meetings of the Board, and no due attention was paid to the accounts of the Union. The consequence was that instead of having, as the people had been let to anticipate, reduced rates, the rates had been materially increase d. He should submit a resolution on this subject depr e- catorv of the system of the New Poor Law, and it would be for them to adopt or reject it as they thoug ht fit. The next grievance appertained to the Tithe Commutation Act. Instead of reducing the burdens on the country, this Act had been the means of increasing them most materially, and of course of engendering great dissatisfaction. They must endeavour to fall back upon the old system of either paying tithe in kind, or giving an agreement for compensation in lieu of tithe. The next grievance the county complained of was the increase in the County Stock, which also tends to impoverish the farmers. Then the magistrates' fines and fees, and the law costs had very alarmingly increased, while the poverty had been such that the people were unable to bear the slightest additional impost. Great efforts had been made to give vent to these grievances, in order that they might reach the proper quaver, and be redressed. The best plan in his opinion would be that all these various local imposts should be assessed on the rent and paid by the land owner, and that this should be sanctioned by some legislative enactment. This course would then enable the farmer to dispense with all trouble in looking after the various local expenses. He wished also to remove inyidious com- petition for their various takings. He grieved to think that notwithstanding the resolutions to discountenance nightly meetings which was passed at the Mynydd Selen meeting, excesses of a very grave nature had broken out and deprived this meeting of the support and countenance of the neighbouring gentry; many of whom were anxious to reduee tlteir burdens; they eould now see the effect of the outrages in the absence of those gentlemen from that meeting. He was affected to think that public in- dignation had been misdirected and had broken out against those magistrates who had only performed their duty. They were bound by their oaths to carry into effect the law of the land, and it was their duty to do so. He was not aware that Mr. Adams, of Mid- dleton Hull had done anything to offend the people, and why then should he have been so attacked ? He heped the people would abstain from such outrages as had lately occurred he felt sure that not one person then present had been implicated in them, but he advised all who had participated in them to desist for the future. Another gentleman had been most unjustly accused of not only throwing obstacles in the way of obtaining a redress of grievances, but of actually turning round upon those people whom he had promised to assist by all means in his power. He had had an interview with Mr. William Chambers, the gentleman accused, who had explained the whole affair to him. It was a matter of compulsion that he accompanied the troops, and he was in duty bound to execute the obli- gations imposed upon him by his oath of office. It had been imputed to him that he took an unworthy part with respect to the suppression of certain outrages which occurred lately at Pontardulais. He had been at Swansea on last Monday and he had there heard the evidence of Mr. William Chambers, and also that of the police and others who were present; he therefore declared that from all he could learn, Mr. Chambers was utterly guiltless of the charge of having made an onslaught on the people. He firmly believed there was no person more guiltless and he hoped the ill "feeling which existe-d against him would be done away with. It appeared by the evidence that Mr. Chambers detected four persons in-the act of running away from the scene of the affray at Pontardulais, on strong suspicion that they were implicated in the des- truction of the gates and toll house. Now he was in duty bouQd to stop these men but as to the charge that he had done anything unbecoming his character as a magistrate, he begged to assert, from 11 he knew, that Mr. Chambers was thoroughly guiltless of the charges brought against him. He had felt it his duty to enter into this explanation both in respect of the part he had taken on behalf of the people, and to pre- rent Mr. Chambers from being further molested. He should now read the petition, which was one from the six parishes of Llandebie, Llanartlmey, Llangunnor, Bettws, Llanfihangel Aherbythich, and Llanedi. He hoped all present would assent to it. It was, however, open to any inhabitant to come fjrward and oppose all or any part of it, and they were quite welcome to do so. The petition was proposed with a view of calling upon the Queen in the most humble and respectful manner to use her Royal prerogative to redress the grie\"ances of her people, and to inform her that they are utterly hopeless of relief, but through a New Parliament. Mr. Williams then read the petition, which was as follows :— To the Queen's Most Excellent Majesty. We, the Freeholders, Farmers, Working Men, and others, inhabitants of the several parishes of Llanarth- nev, Llandebie, Llangunnor, Llanfihangel Aberbythich, Bettws, and Llanedi, in the county of Carmarthen, in public meeting assembled on Bank-llyn-llech-Owen, on the Great Mountain, in the same county of Carmarthen, to consider the various local grievances the country has long suffered, and the course to adopt to seek redress, nx,st humbly beg leave to address your Gracious Majesty, and to submit for your Majesty's consideration :— 1. That the system of Turnpike Tolls in this country appears to vour Majesty's petitioners to be"oppressive, unequal, and unjust, snd subject to inefficient and irres- ponsible management. Your Majesty 's petitioners there- fore most humblv submit to your gracious Majesty that it is the opinion of this meeting that the whole Turnpike Trusts of the County should be placed under one direction, combining scientific skill with practical ability. "2. That the principle and the administration of the New Poor Law are and have been extremely repugnant to the feelings, habits, and opinions of your Majesty's petitioners, without being attended with any beneficial pe m.' iry remilts by a change of measwres. That your Majesty's petitioners most humbly and earnestly hope that this law may be repealed and the former system adopted with such modiifcations as may prevent the abuse thereof. "3 That the Tithe Commutation Act. and the ineffi- cient and other partill measures which it has carried into operation, have contributed to add seriously to the griev- ances of your Majesty 's petitioners; who are therefore most anxious that the measure may either materially modified, c.. the former system adopted, and so that in arv Cge your Majesty's petitioners and the county genc- r\lY may have the option of paying tithes in kind, or of cc pounding, as Lerctroforc; that differences in the latter respect might le odjustrd by Hifa.ll of elective assessors. "4. That it would appear to your Majesty's petitioners that in proportion as the country has become impo- verished, have local imposts become increased. That the County Stock, with respect to which the county, which has to bear the burthen, may exercise no manner of discretion, either as to the necessary assessment or expenditure, has of late years been greatly advanced. Wherefore when imposts increase, and distress and even destitution calculated tc* drive the people into despera- tion, are widely spreading, this species of local taxation seriously presses on your Majesty's petitioners, many of whom although subject to it cannot obtain a sufficiency of the commonest necessaries of life. "5. We further beg to submit to your gracious Ma jestv that public and professional perquisites seem to have been encouraged in proportion as a distressed country has been the less able to bear them. Legal cu- pidity seems to have hovered over, and to have taken ad- vantage of a people unable to redress or repel it; a peo- ple hitherto, your gracious Majesty, too disspirited even to meet and commune together so as to complain to your gracious Majesty of their manifold and enormous gricv- ances. We beg leave to represent to your most gracious Majesty, that legal and magisterial fees and. fines have been considerably advanced of late years, and arc being enforced on an impoverished people rath merciless se- verity—drawing from their last resources with bold and unrelenting cruelty. This subject seems to your Ma- jesty's petitioners to present a wide field suggesting the present disproportionate pecuniary punishment inflicted on different grades of the people. 6. That long and bitter experience have brought your Majesty's humble petitioners to the conclusion that an indiscriminate selection of an irresponsible magistracy is a great calamity to this country, and to the opinion that elective stipendiary magistrates would behest adapted to dispense public justice. The seat of justice, your gracious Majesty, should be above imputation, as to its competency—above suspicion as to its purity—instead of appearing, as may sometimes be the ease, an object of reproach, and of indignant, but silent contempt,calculated to work deep dissatisfaction in the minds of the people- calculated if it continues, or be not removed bv remedial measures, to shake all regard for the institutions of the country. 7. That it is the opinion of your Majesty's petitioners that rents might be regulated so as the better to agree with the fluctuations of the times but it does not appear to your Majesty's petitioners that this can ever be effected so long as this impost is subjected to the caprice of the landlord and the competition of the tenant. That the present rental of the country is upon a most extravagant and ruinous scale and now that agricultural produce is reduced to one half, and in some cases to one-third of what such produce reached a few years ago, the farmer is made liable to the same rate of rent, save in some instances of partial deductions. 8. That your gracious Majesty's petitioners humbly and earnestly hope some means may be devised whereby rents may be regulated by elective and indifferent asses- sors between the opposite interests of these two great sections of the country, which your Majesty's petitioners are firmly convinced, would materially conduce to public harmony and prosperity. 9. That under all circumstances, and on reflection after long observation, under intense suffering, your Majesty's humble petitioners are firmly convinced that the course most conducive to the welfare and the due regulation of the social relations of the country, would be to impose all local rates, tithes, or tithe composition on the land and that the rent, or surplus profit for occupancy of the same land, should be computed by elective assessors, and made to cover the same. "10. Your gracious Majesty's petitioners are utterly hopeless of relief but through vigorous and enlightened legislative action. They have observed with pain and mortification that the present Parliament, which pro- mised, and from which so much was expected, mani- fested little or no consideration for the condition of the people, or comniisseration for their sufferings while its attention seemed to be principally directed to matters of little, or of no immediate import, to class interests or party objects, regardless of the incessant calls of the country, sinking and writhing under accumulated evils. That your Majesty's petitioners are of opinion that the present Parliament is both disinclined and incompetent to meet the wants or wishes of the community, or to devise measures to amend its condition. "We therefore most humbly and earnestly implore your gracious Majesty to listen to our complaints and supplications, and as soon as possibly convenient, to dissolve the present and to convene a new Parliament, well disposed and qualified to take immediate steps to restore the country to pcace and quietness, and to fix its prosperity on a permanent basis, so regulated as to meet or be prepared for periodical lfuctuations; otherwise your Majesty's petitioners will despair of redress to their almost insufferable wrongs and pri- vations. And your petitioners, &c." With regard to the first clause of the petition (con- tinued Mr. Williams) he was of opinion that the tolls were at present ruinously high, and that the toll-bar system could never be bettered until they were properly regulated by being placed under one head, and the toll- bars at regular distances, by which means the present oppressive exactions under which the people suffered would be materially mitigated. With regard to the third clause respecting the Tithe, he thought it proper to observe that the farmer ought to have the option of paying tithe in kind or of compounding for his tithe. Now however, he was subject to pay tithe on a given rent, and was even liable to be distrained upon, for it. The 6th clause related to the appointment of stipen- diary magistrates. The way in which magistrates are api)ointed now is to take certain gentlemen of the county, of a certain standing as to wealth, and to create them without any other qualification than that of income. By the appointment of stipendiary magistrates they could have gentlemen fully acquainted with the law and all its various bearing on the cases brought before them. At this part of the proceedings a letter was handed to Mr. Hugh Williams from Mr. W. Chambers, junior, which he read at length to the meeting as follows :— To Hugh Williams, Esq. Sir,—I think it right to inform you why I do not attend the meeting to-day. Having taken the chair at Mynydd-Selen, I should have again attended, but the manner in which I have been treated by the parties whose cause I have always done my best to support, fills me with surprise and disgust. The lie of my having shot the man round the corner of the Inn at Pontardulais arises probably from my having performed the only act of kindness I could to the unfortunate men whom I first saw wounded in the gate-house, by getting them water. Once established, this lie was I have no doubt sedulously retailed by persons who were anxious to sever the good understanding that had always existed between me and the farmers of this neighbourhood. All the Pontardu- lais firing was over before I left the Gwilly wooden bridge; there I took the first person, then went across to the turnpike-road, staid there some time, took ano- ther, waited again and then went on to Pontardulais, all this on foot, and meeting the Dragoons by the Inn, so that it is impossible I could have shot the man. These must be convincing proofs to you and must be to all reasonable men. You know that as a magistrate my duty is imperative. I deny a report circulated that I have acted contrary to my declaration on Mynydd Selen. I said then I would oppose nightly meetings. The Mynydd Sclen meeting passed an unanimous resolution to that effect. How well did they keep to that ? I repeat what I said in my address to the inhabitants of Llanelly, that neither I nor any one with me have as yet fired a shot. I was one of the first to lower the rents to and pay the police rate for my tenants. I deny that they have anything to complain of, or that I have ever refused them an extension of time when they asked for it. Ask them as a body, I am sure they will acknow- ledge it. Ask them, if there are any from the town of Llanelly, whether I have not lent many a poor man money to carry on his building, or to carry on his business, they can acknowledge this. I have kept my word with regard to the gates and bars. At the Kid- welly meeting, called specially by the magistrates of this district, that time might not lost, no agreement was come to by the lessee, and it was only after the meeting had broken up and every body but Mr. Adams and myself were gone, that we made him write a letter to the clerk, who still remained, binding himself to a certain fixed sum in consideration of the gates and bars to be re- moved previous to the expiration of his contract. The other object could not be proposed -till the regular meet- ing some days since. I wrote to the tithe-man at Llanelly, and if the people wished me to write to the landlord, why did they not, after the meeting, put themselves in com- munication with me for that purpose. I think I have answered every lying report. I have gone thus far into explanation as it is a duty I owe to myself, not to the cowardly miscreants who fired my houses, my corn, my hay, and shot an unoffending animal. Is depriving the poor of employment, & depriving cattle of food, the way to redress grievances, and to better the condition of the poor or of the farmer ? If there is any doubt upon this, ask my poor farm men and women at Tynywaun, Mansaiit and Gellygalog, how their situation is improved. I have very little more in my own hands for them to finish, so that is not likely to influence me in writing this. I have my life (devoted for these 12 years to the expenditure of my fathers ample fortune in THIS COUNTY,) threatened, but the coward who did this had better mind that the sacrifice of his own is not the reward of his temerity, when he thinks proper to attempt mine. I will not advert to the horrid crime perpetrated at Hendy gate, as I profess to writing for my own satisfaction alone, but I cannot refrain from saying that I trust the Almighty God will let the death shriek of that poor old woman haunt the soul of the guilty sinner to his dying hour. May I request you to read my letter to the meeting, and am, Sir, Your obedient servant, WILLIAM CIIAMJIEKB, jun. He (Mr. Williams) could confirm Mr. Chambers's testimony as to the Pontardulais firing. From the evidence he had heard, it was utterly impossible for Mr. Chambers, to have been present at the gate, and con- sequently he could have been no party to the firing. A more atrocious falsehood was never promulgated. When he arrived at the gate all the mob had dispersed, and there were only three men left as prisoners in the gate house. He would say this in order to vindicate his countrymen from the charge of cowardice, that the three young men who were taken, fought most bravely until they were wounded, and they were then over- powered and conveyed to Swansea gaol where they lie in a helpless state. He must say that he never heard a more ample, fair, and manly explanation than Mr. Chambers had given, and he thought all might place reliance on its truth. lie hoped that for the future the people would abstain from giving vent to private passions, which, if induged in, must eventu- ally plunge the country into anarchy He ex- horted those present at the meeting to endeavour by all means in their power to prevent a continuation of the system of nightly outrages, and conclnded by expressing a hope that in a short time grievances would be redressed and peace restored. Mr. Rees Thomas of Gorsgoch seconded the motion. Mr. Stephen Evans, of Cilcarw, addressed the meet- ing in Welsh. He commenced by addressing the meeting as his brothers, because all of them were brothers de- scended from Noah their common father, and they were also brothers as being subject to the same laws, and living in the same country. He did not know at first what was the reason of the meeting being held at the top of the mountain, but he supposed it was in imita- tion of their forefathers, who loved the free mountain air, and who had made good laws on the tops of their native mountains. Good laws had also been given from the top of a mountain in the time of Moses. But they had another reason why the meeting was held on the top of the mountain, it was because they would then be far enough from public houses, and better able calmly and soberly to consider the grievances under which they had so long groaned and laboured, and which had been such heavy burdens to them that it was as much as many could do to speak calmly about them when sober. He considered it reprehensible to have people half drunk at a meeting, and so, as they had tied their asses to the foot of the hill, let them also tie the beer-casks along side of them, until the business was over. Besides this when a man is going to beg, it was not fitting to go in a tipsy state, and as they were going to approach and petition the throne of the greatest monarch in the uni- verse, it behoved them to approach in a discreet, hum- ble, and sober manner. They must not think of having all their burdens taken away, as they must all still work for their living. He would not do at all for a lord, but he was very well fitted for working at his plough. It was quite useless to think of living idly, but he thought every man ought to be well rewarded with sufficient sustenance for his labour. The present meeting was lawful and honourable but it was most disgraceful to the character of the Welsh people that they had joined in nocturnal riots, which had never be- fore been the case since the union of Wales with England. For the sake of the good character which the country had hitherto borne, he besought them to desist in time. As for Rebecca, he never saw her, neither did he know her but he should like very much to see her, for he would himself tell her, that rather than let her be wan- dering about at night in the manner she had lately done, he would maintain her for a night or two in his own house to prevent her doing mischief. He would advise all assembled to do the same thing if they saw her. He then translated the petition into Welsh in order that all might thoroughly understand it, and he also translated Mr. Chambers's letter into Welsh. Mr. John Jones, stone-cutter, at Llanddarog, read a Welsh translation of an address to the inhabitants of Llanelly, from Mr. William Chambers, junior. Mr. Wm. Evans, of Pontybcrem, (in Welsh) inveighed in very forcible terms against the great number of toll bars, which he said were too numerous by half. They aggravated the people in all directions. The tolls were much too heavy, and the bars were far too numerous. With regard to the Poor Law, it was extremely obnoxious in this part of the country. He was now 66 years of age, and was an old parishioner of the place in which he resided, in the Llanelly Union. He had brought up 10 chil- dren by the sweat of his brow, and by the labour of his own ten fingers he had however no hopes, that in his dying moments, one of those children would be allowed to assist him or to wait on him, if sad fate compelled him to go to the Workhouse. The speaker then, in that style of vehement declamation for which the Welsh are so celebrated, proceeded to denounce the New Poor Law. In no measured terms he condemned the system of relieving officers, the separation of man and wife clause, and the enormous expences of the establishment. He concluded by attacking the Tithe Commutation Act, which he contended pressed hardly on the people. Mr. John Williams, of Lammas-Street, Carmarthen, Mr. David Evans, of Pantycastell, and Mr. John Thomas, of Saron, Llandebie, respectively addressed the meeting in Welsh, in favour of the petition, and adduced nume- rous instances of the hardships mentioned in it. All these speakers were violent in the extreme against the New Poor Law, Mr. Stephen Evans, then addressed the meeting in order to state his opinion of the various grievances men- tioned in the petition. He had been asked what became of the County Stock, but as he was not omniscient, he could not be expected to know. He believed there was great dissatisfaction existing in the county with respect to the way in which the County Stock was disposed of. The Poor Law was a law against human nature, and against the laws of God, which commanded every man to cherish his wife, and said, that they both should be one flesh." It was also against the principle of the laws of England, which said that a man and wife when mar- ried, were united till death did them part, but when poverty overtook them, they were separated from their poor wives, who had been the faithful and happy com- pauions of their long lives. Their poor children were also taken from them. They did not expect, and in fact, they were quite hopeless of having physicians and medi- cines, or servants to bring them wine but all they asked was the attendance of their children to bring them a drop of cold water, but even this was denied them. He con- cluded by exhorting the farmers to discontinue nightly meetings, as by keeping them they only injured their own cause. The question was then put to the meeting for the adoption of the petition, when every hand of the vast body of men was held up amidst loud cheering. Three cheers were then called for on behalf of the Queen, when again the stentorian voiccs of the assem- bly were raised in loyal shouts which lasted a considera- ble length of time, and literally made the welkin ring again.' A vote of thanks having been proposed to the chair- man, the meeting separated.

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