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HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FKIDAT.I

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HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FKIDAT. I Th;BVeker took the chair at ten minutes pMt ?- o'clock, SCOTCH MAIL SERVIOJ. I l.old J. MANNKR". in reply to Sir Tollomwho Sinclair, 't?ttd that the Sutherland and Caithness Pallwav to Wick MdThutMh*<! not yet bOBD com- pitt«), and l,e did not imw the date t which it would bo opened. When it was opened he did not doubt that njeans would be found for making tho "?-y alJ1lDemeDh fr the O.D,oywle of mMtt. At pruunt nmiU were regularly wnveyed from WiAt..Thort0.t'!d be hMi no doubt they ':id oontwue to be conveyed with the same regularitv after the railway had been opeacd. t ir TOT l.KMAO) IE RINOIkU 3! Mii 1 fcl-o -.urrvor I ,,f III,, I ?., i,ti,ft(!t)ry 1,:It br wouJd ^ivo »io!ico that ,t ("ii'y l'plbi'. tn.ity l.o \.ouM mil .iltenUun t,_tl, ,t. liJUIIMi 'mUUTOUV oA, XUii tiOJjJ I (j()A:i 0. 1)?i TUi,, Mr.LOWTHKit.inMtWKrtoMr.A.MiU), Utid the j iuiieo (xkht of tlio hrc.i aivurl the* fort* on tb« (Jolil Coi\stf whi^h would b'" h?!dM"d? IlJÍui.IIH"¡ AS iiriuaii territory, was IIO yb IIOUT- lI,iJ.ul. 'n> ""ul.1 depend t,) a r"at oxtout 011 tlJOUI!.i.1\lJI\tlt8 thai, wight ho Kquiiod vvi.'u roo gard ton .ocul hH!uilY. ??d thl Hust oaveful oja hidubUou would bo neco.»ssuy wit i rc!/l L? th, f?t. imnsfmed )'y !?t ?'' Or? n?i'?.? It muat now bo limilly bottled wbethur thoy or the ports in tbo potiHosaion of tho British would l.o lidcl, or whether an armol iWcj wU'J1ù bo iitceniary. In «U of them 1\ ropor KH to the cOllditiulI of tho loiln WliS boing l'ruparoil by tho coiMMKiion, ",I the iratrnatioiis L(? bo gi,,?l to t,?o I:t::dol.lt t'i:ttd1O vh th wlie compieto, thcro would bo uo objection to pio* duco thorn. INTOXICATING LIQIJORS (IIZEI,,tND) NO. 2 HILL. Tlio ilouso went into Oommitteo on tho lubri- cating Liquors (Ireland) No. 2 Bill. IIoboOn clause 11) Mr. O'SULLIVAN moved to abolish the fee of the Oleik of tho Peace on tho annual renewal of II licence* Sir III, H. REACH promised to inquiry into the question, and if thcro WAS no work done thoro id be no fee. The amendment WR« reserved for tho report. Tho clause, together with 0laus9. 13 and 14, was agreed to. Upon clause IG, which gives the polico the right of entry moved to MId tho worth-It E- Capt, OLAN to .1,1 the wo,,Is-" E. cept the sleeping apartments of females." Sir III. H, BUAOH opposeJ, as every apartment would be 10 designated when the object was to evade the Act. On ft division, the amendment was rejo^ted by 179 to 26. A number of amendments were moved by Mr. 0, Lewis, Mr. Sullivau, Mr. O'Sullivan, III, Dayniug, and others, but they were either of a verbal cha- racter, or, on being opposed by tho Government, were withdrawn, lIr. SULLIVAN proposed a new clause, giving licensed victuallers power to close their houses, or to refuse to sell liquors. Sir M. BEACH, said that in cuos where the publican desired to clcso his house on Sundays, he eould do .0 by taking out a t,ix days' licenoe. The clause was subsequently negatived. There waa a long discussion on a clause proposed by Mr. BEDMONI), providing that fiuos anl penal- ties imposed at petty sessions in towns under the Towns Improvement Act shall be paid by the trea, surer of the commissioners thereof to tho credit of the general assessment fund. The clause, aa it stood, was opposed by Sir 1\1, BEACH, who, however, proposed to draw a clause to meet the case. The clauso was then withdrawn. JIlt, R. SMYTH moved a clamo providing that in towns cf less than 5,000 population intoxicating liquors ,,h?.ld not be cold between 10 on Saturday night acd 2 On 8,,?.d.y afternoon or between [even on Sunday night and seven on Monday morning, and that in towns of greater population Buch liejuours shall not be sold between eleven on Saturday night and two on Sun- day afternoon, or between seven on Sunday night and seVW on Monday morning. Sir Li. BEACH resisred the chuso, arguing that in laige town. liLe Dublin, Belfast, and other placts, it would be absurd to close the public- homes at seven o'cleck on a summer evening. The Bill did not propise to alter the hours iu Ireland, and be hope the committee would not inal?3t on introducing this new topic of contro/eisy into the BiJI, After some discussion, the committee divided, when the clauEC wa# negatived. A discussion arose on the clause relating to bona fide travellers. Sir. DOWNING proposed to leave it to the dis- cretion of the magistrates but eventually it IV." dccided to leave it aa it was in tho ffnglish Act. that is, a person who had travelled three mil,4 by the nearest public thcroughfaro. 1111', R. SMYTH moved a nuy clause providing that licences may not bo granted in towns and populous liJaClB whero the number of li-joused houecs exceeded one to 700 per. on., nor in rural districts for premises within a mile of other lioisnssd premises, and that tho licensing authorities may grant new certificates in towns and suburbs for hütel. containing not leas than six, and in rural districts net tha. four, sleeping apartments for the use of travellers. Sir M. H. BEACH opposed the clause on behalf of the Government, and the discussion wa.3 not finished when progress was reported at 10 minutes to 7 o'cloek. MISCELLANEOUS. The Eating Bill, as amended, was considered; the Statute Law Revision Bill was read a third time and passed. In committee on Shannon Navigaticn a resolu- tiw to provide expenses Wíle agreed to, The Slaughter-houses, &0.. Bill was toted a second time, Sir S. IBBETSON stating that he would make his statement on it on gID;Ilg iito committee, The sitting was suspended at 7 o'clock. EVENING SIFTING, I THE INCOME-TAX. At the evening sitting, on the motion for going into Committee of Supply on the Oivil Service Estimates, LEWIS rose to move, "Tint, in the Mr. 0, LEWIS rose to mwe, in the opinion of the House, the continued imposition of tho income'tax, except in time of war or some great national emergency, being un j nat, such tax should be still further rednced at the earliest posibl? periol." He said hia apology for having brought forward this question was the great interest attaching to the subject in the minds of tho large number of persons who were affeoted by the tax to which the motion referred; and to show the magnitude of the sum which was levied by its means on the British public, he stated that since its first imposition in 1842, the tax had yielded upwards of 2300,000,000. For tho first twenty years, every Chancellor of the Ex chequer who had asked for a renewal of the impwt had invariably represented it as only a temporary measure, and it was only of late years that minis- ters bad been bold enough to suggest th9t it should be icgarded as a permanent tax. (At this point nn unsuccessful attempt was made to count out the House, and Mr. Lewis proceeded,) He contended that the country had a right to know whether the tax was to be made permanent or not, and he quoted from a speech made by Mr. Glad- stone in 18G4, wherein he averred that it was not dreirnblethllttheincome-tax should creep unawares into perpetuity. He went on to argue that the ;d had originally been imposed only aa a war tax, ri d quote from various eminent authorities in It; ^ort of bi? contention that it eght ..IT to be re?'iMd for that purpose, and that to make it a per- petual Eource of revenue would be to deprive the Government of a most valuable engine for raising a ipccial fund in times of great national emergency. He also asserted that the tax was unjust In its inci- dence, because it made no distinction between per- manent and precarious incomes, while it was most obnoxious to the tax-payer on account of its in- quisitorial nature. He also urged that it was im- politic to retain a tax that was provocative of watte on the part of the Government, and of fraud on the part of the tax-payer, and he contended that as it would be impossible to maintain it at only twopence- in the bound, the nectary consequence must be either ita lncrease or ..?e.ary the latter of the two courses baing that which he regarded as the most advisable. Mr. GRANT DUFF, who had placed upon the paper an amendment, which, however, he could not move, ?o the effect that the tax was alike just and politic, until some other direct tax could be substituted for it, against which fewer valid objections could be stated, spoke at some length in support of this view. If they abolished the tax, they must, he said, do one of four things-either diminish their expenditure, by taking the loss of revenue, or resort to an equivalent amount of indirect taxation devise some new direct tax, or substitute a composite scheme that would combine at least two of these expedients. He did not think that the House was prepared to make* so large a diminution in the army and navy as would be necessary if the tax were abolished without an equivalent. Nur did he see what system the indirect taxation ooula be resorted to that would be acceptable to the country as a substitute for the revenue obtained from the present system. He was at a loss also to imagine what jC:III:huleb:mt; w..Id be less ob j ectionable than the tax on income, and he thought the great difficulty would be found in devising a cumpoMte scheme that wold be generally satisfactory. The advantage of retaining the income-tax consisted in the fact that the cus- toms duties would thereby be gradually diminished, and he expressed a desire that the Chancellor of the Exchequer should fall back on the system of commercial treaties inaugurated by Mr. 0. ?ban. Mr. HUBBARD opposed the motion, on the ground that it would not be wise to get rid of so elastic a source of revenue, though he thought that the incidence of the tax was in many respects ob- jectionable. During the speech of the hon. gentleman, three attempts were made to count out the House, but without success. Sir J, LUBBOOK contended that the income-tax, although still open to some objections, had latterly lost much of its obnoxious character, and was in valuable portion of our existing financial Mr, DFAWCETT also supported the tax as one which bad conferred many great advantages on the oountry, and bad oonduced to a number of im- uoitaat reforms, and he warned the House against the huty abolition of the impost, le.t the notion should be sprt ad among the masses of the people tl i.t 11 n \h¡.:ql)' dl\UI in tIll: rcm;tlry w.w&nxloa* Iq tl ift fir»m t;,dr ua-n Hhouldu!t1 a Imrihu whioh 'lej "I1\. to be»«r, ui»d thereby n-fvttn a hevler (\ )?.n<ii!thn<ht!i'?<jf aW;IH'. HkLt i.t)i'?tt?? eMlc h:JI,; of HI" o.r'mv.iau. 'Àlio CII.\N( ELLtm of tho RxarWQUER, i linking 0.0 llouto to 11,11 iieeonling iU adhesion 10 the !i!on<-n bt fore It, pmlitd th.t it would b) incxpcdh nt to fitter the Govnnm.'nt by demanding fuDjOun a Imlnat",o plnUo upon tbe Hubjosv. ,j 1, 'l,? t t'?? *?l tho lil,ty cf (haling with tho incuulO tax and tile other taxes l f tIj. ""ty iu "1, a ..y as, upon duo considera- tion and oompaiisitn with the Other putl of the syetcin, they might doom advisable. Tho 1:8} :I'J!I\Ie w to be the '¡t\:>l; tho future, Ld ho contended that thi. wa* too Jllrge 81111 important II matter to be argued piece nltsl. He Plemised that the whole sabject should receivo the lIIe." eordul attention, and that if any arrangements could be made that would mitigate or do away with the objections tbat ware urged against the present system, ho should be glad to give theiu hi. 111011. favourable consideration. The Houao then divided on tbo question tint the Reuse go into Committee of Supply, and the numbers were- For going into Supply to I "r Mr, Lewis's amendment 38 Majority. 10L The House then went into Committea of Supply, and almost immediately resumed, when the House went into committee on the Intoxicating Liquors (Ireland) Bill. Tho remaining clauses were gone through, and the Chairman ordered to report tho Bill as amended to the House. The Hoeitry Manufacture (WMOf) BiH pMsed through wmmitt(?e, as alo dlil the Hertford College (Oxford) Bill. Tho House adjourned Pt a quarter past two.

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