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THE VANDERBILT WEDDIIG.

DENBIGHSHIRE POLICE COMMITTEE.

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DENBIGHSHIRE POLICE COMMITTEE. MR. LUMLEY AND THE CHAIRMAN. WARM DISCUSSION. The quarterly meeting of the Standing Joint Committee for the county of Denbigh was held at Denbigh on Friday. Captain Griffith Boscawen presided over a large attendance of members. Before the first item on the agenda could be pro- ceeded with Mr. J. Watkin Lumley, addressing the Clerk of the Peace, said that the committee met in rather an awkward position. The term of office for which the chairman had been elected expired at the last Epiphany Quarter Sessions, and they were therefore without a chairman.— The Chairman: You are wrong, sir. I was ap- pointed chairman for three years, and my term ,of office does not expire until April next.—Mr.. Lumley pointed out that the chairman himself, while presiding at the last Epiphany Sessions, admitted that the members representing the Court on the Standing Joint Committee were only elected up to those sessions. The chairman being one of them, although re-elected as a repre- sentative for another period of three years, was not now the chairman of the committee.—The Chairman I must interrupt you. I am the last person, in the world to take the chair if I were not entitled to it. The term of office of the Standing Joint Committee as a whole does not terminate until. after the County Council election, and it is after the election of a complete Standing Joint Committee that you elect your chairman.—Mr. Lumley was proceeding to argue, when the Chairman said he had to rule him out of order.— Mr. Lumley: But you are not in the chair.— The Chairman: I am, and I am going to stay there.—Mr. Lumley: I hold you are not in the chair, and I must ask the advice of the clerk as to whether you are really the chairman of this committee.—The Clerk (Mr. W. R. Evans) then read, the minute of the election of chairman in April, 1898, and stated that the resolution in question was coupled with an implied condition that the chairman, whoever he might be, should be in office for three years. As Captain Griffith Boscawen had been re-elected a representative of the Court of Quarter Sessions on the com- mittee, he was entitled to take the chair.—Mr. Lumley: I will take your ruling.—The Chairman: If you think. Mr. Lumley, I take the chair here or anywhere else without being entitled to do so, you are much mistaken, and you ought to know better than to say so.—Mr. Lumley: I don't think I need take that from you. I think that even you can make mistakes.—The Chair- man Very well, I dare say you make a good many. The Chief Constable (Major Leadbetter) sub- mitted his quarterly report, which shewed that crime and offence as compared with the corre- sponding quarter of last year had decreased three in indictable offences, 63 in non-indictable offences, and an increase of JE88 6s. 3d. in the value of property stolen. One hundred and sixty indictable offences were reported during the year, being an increase of seven as compared with last year; 175 persons were proceeded against, 115 of whom were summarily convicted and 29 committed for trial. For non-indictable offences 2,509 persons were proceeded against, 2,005 of whom were fined, 280 discharged, and the remainder punished in various ways. Twenty- nine publicans, etc., were proceeded against for breaches of the Sunday Closing Act, permitting drunkenness, etc., of whom 10. were discharged and 19 convicted. For drunkenness 945 persons were charged, 109 of whom were for being drunk on Sundays, as against 958 and, 132 last year.- Mr. Lumley asked whether he might put a ques- tion to the Chief Constable as to the control and management of the police;-The Chairman having consented, Mr. Lumley asked whether the. committee were not entitled to a report of any- thing special that happened in the force.—The Chairman: What the Chief C-OSistable puts in his., report is entirely within his own discretion.—Mr. Lumley: The question I wish to ask is, had the- Chief Constable during the- last quarter oc- casion to dismiss a constable,?!—The Chief Con- stable: All I can say is that,,the discipline of the force is entirely in my hands.—Captain Cole: Hear, bLear.-The Chairman (to the Chief Con- stable) You had better answer the question, yeg- or no.-The Chief Constilbl" then admitted that a policeman had been dismissed.—Mr. Lumley: I want to know upon what- grounds.—The Chair- man I don't think Y¡j.. are entitled to ask that question. The Chiei1 Otonstable has power to dismiss a policeman ai any time without, giving any reason. It is; a matter of policy, -and I scarcely think that it should be discussed in public.—Mr. Hooson s-,ii4-, he knew the circum- stances of the case, and, wa.s thoroughly satisfied with the action taken by the Chief Constable. (Appiause.)—Mr. Lunuey: I also know-some- thing. about the case, aad I am thoroughly satis- ted' with the action of the Chief Constable. (Laughter.) If he had. not dismissei him If should not have been < satisfied with hia action. And, what is more, sir; it was in consequence of, a dtseassion introduqedrin this very room on the. :management and caatrol of the police that the- man was dismissed. I quite endorse everything- that the Chief Constable. has done in the case ;(Cheers.) An application made- by the ChieJ Constable. for an increase of pay..to the police of- the county, .gave rise to a short discussion, and or..the motion or Colonel Saxon Ditisi seconded by Captain Gol^. it was resolved to-refer the subject tc a committae, consisting of the. Chairman, Sir R. Egerton,. CTolonel Wynne Edtoaris, Messrs. E., Hooson, W., G. Dodd, Isgced Jones, and W. D. W. Griffith. An amendment proposed by Mr. Luniley and seconded by Mt. Garner Roberts to defer the. matter until after tshe County Council election was lost. ——————— ———————

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