The Llanelly Mercury and South Wales Advertiser

Intermediate Managers. MR. J. S. TREGOXIXG RESIGNS. A meeting ?f '-t:ntermediat sehooll Managers ?ae held at the Schools on Thurs- day last, The Rev. J. H. Rees presiding. The other members present were Mrs. Nevill, Mrs I Phillips, Messrs Joseph Roberts, E. T. Jones, J. Ll. Thomas, W. CSreville, Rev. Dr. Johns, II together with the Clerk (Mr. Bloke), the Headmaster (Mr. W. Lewis, B.A.), and the I Headmistress (Miss Davies). .PP")INCT.P"-I' /)T A 'CO'.i ('ERr¡ I APPOINTMENT OF MANAGERS. The Clerk reported that the Parish Council had xe-app;niiled the Rev. Roger Williams as manager far the uou-provided schools of the district. Mr. Spowart, clerk to the Urban Council, also wrote that the Council had ap- pointed the following as governorsMrs. Phillips, Rev Dr Johns, Rev W. Trevor Jones, Messrs. J. S. Tregoning, E. T. Jones, and Jos. Roberts. He also enclosed forms of consent. Mr. J. S. Tregoning had intimated his inabi- lity to act, and it was therefore necessary to hold another meeting to appoint someone in his stead. As soon as the person was ap- pointed, and had sent notice of consent, he would convey official intimation to the Clerk. The Clerk observed that Mr. Tregoning had sent him a letter, in which he stated that he regretted he would be unable to attend the meetings in future. He much regretted hav- ing to leave the work, but he did not feel justified in continuing it in future. He was glad that the financial condition of the school was going on, and he hoped it. would con- tinue progressing in every direction for good. Dr. John's regretted Mr. Tregoning's inabi- lity to continue his work as a manager of the school. It was, undoubtedly, a great loss to the Committee. Mr. Jo Roberts re-echoed the sentiments j of Dr. Johns. j Mr. E. T. Jones proposed that they place Oll record the invaluable services rendered by Mr. Treg-ming to the Intermediate School. As chairman of the Committee for many years, he did his work in the most efficient manner, and lie knew from his personal knowledge that Mr. Tregoning had sacrificed a considerable amount, of time and labour in doing his utmost for the welfare of the school to which Mr. Lewis could bear testimony. He did nor only work at the Committee meeting, but he was a frequent visitor at the school, and offered every encouragement to the staff. The Chairman said they all appreciated ¡ the services (Jf Mr. Tregoning, and lie asso- ciated himself with the remarks of Mr. Jones. Mrs. Phillips observed that Mr. Tregoning understood the correct interpretation of the Intermediate Act, which probably no other governor did. It was a matter of regret to their children and the staff that Me Tregoning had been obliged to withdraw from further service. It. was unanimously decided to place on re- cord the invaluable services of Mr Tregoning. The Clerk said that with regard to the ap- pointment of representatives for the Urban District Council, he observed in the news- papers that a very lengthy discussion took place- as to whether they had legal power to appoint more than one female representa- tive. He had had instructions from the Board of Education, who were to interpret in this matter. A letter from the Board stated: "With reference to your letter of the 27th instant, I am directed to state that whilst the scheme of 1908 requires that one of the gover- I nors appointsd by the Llanelly Urban District Comicil shall be a woman, ;[ doe? not pro-I hibit the* appointment of more than one woman." He (the Clerk) had seen Mr. H. W. Spowa?t with regard to this matter. In reply to Dr. Johns, the Clerk said he j scut t" th-e Board for the informal k>n as i guidance for the future. I SCHOLARSHIPS. With regard to the scholarships, the Clerk F-aidlie regretted tn state that the County had decli^ ned to allow additional ones. Their letter stated that no additional scholarships could be allowed 1" pupils between thirteen and iourteen. years ot age. He understood that similar applications had been made to j the County fiom other schools, and they had been declined. I v 'I' I> 'I' ""t1")I.\I.)-'IIll) I'" "JT\T\ I l,'NTIiA'(?E EXAMINA- 1 TIONS. ¡ The Clerk roonried tha; he had received 166 applications ¡he entrance -?''h.??rF.hip < i u*u Llanelly Urban-Bynea, Dafen, and examination, and had fixed the following *1 «« Burr. Port—Kidwelly, Pembrey. Irin^trj), Pwll. -mi ( mgwili. Mt'. J. Ll. I i' i"e;m,red why the Cwm- Burry Pert. The Clerk replied that the applicants had their own option. It was ultimately decided that the C'wm- dula.?, with Tycro?.s a ad Llangenntch dis- gwiii district be lixed for Hendy and Pontar- tricrs. j The Clerk said that 129 would sit ;?L):'u?i elly, 22 at Burry Port, and 15 at Hendy. NEW INTERMEDIATE SCHEME. Apropos to the amendment to the lie., In- AproPos to the Iii,ii,?(-?,ii(iiiient tf-) t-l"?e tion, fill. ?i objecUons in respect of the scheme should be sent to the Secretary of the Board of Educa- tion. There was one matter which affected them. Clause 97a of the last amendment. i -stated that the school managers may establish a pupil teachers' centre in connec- > km wit ht he school, and make any modifica- tions relating to ages, education, and subjects of instruction, etc. Instead of that clause, the new amendment stated that the school managers' may make speeuit. pinvisjou. in c-on- i <o n in with the school in the education of girls who intended qualifying as i i i< :s in elementary school*. The iiiana- may also, if they think lit, make modifi- ratiin- according to the ages, instruction, and cxarninatioll. and the County Council may m?ke re?in&tlous with legard to the tuition j [totS they mav think suitable. •Itie Clerk, in reply to Mr. E. Jones, said i< tile new clause w..uM abolish the old  a< i r rcntre. I Mr E. T. Jones: Rut, what « j» m- ,i>-> i tht Bui .j freedom to the governors in dealing with the I bursars!. With regard to the subject of in- struction ,the governors were at liberty to choose their own subjects for intending teachers. With regard to the examination, the :e?ciiers may cho<?e their own examina- tion, either the Oxford Local or London Mat- riculation, or any examination they provided ¡ for them. It was really, a permissive clause, I and gave the governors more freedom in pre- pal iug teachers. I Mr. Joseph Robert., said that with regard to I' the pupil teachers' centre, it would have to be abolished. The LlaneHy Urban Authority had declined to adopt the Bursar Scheme at ibe present time, and 'U«. County threatened to discontinue the centre. He would like to know whether the County could diseuntinue the pupil teachers' centre, although the other authority decided- to continue the pupil teachers' centre, rather than adopt the Bursar Schema. Mr. E. T. Jones said that the amendment "n the scheme would oom]> • in Llanelly I Mdwatlon Committee to revetA to tt <■>. County Bursar Scheme, Fp to tlio present they had i refused to adopt the '"omify Conned scheme, i the amendivi-ent- io the original scheme would I '•ompel them to adopt it. II Mr. Joseph Roberts said that if the clause- were passed, a (ill > ht r.nipjj teachers centre was discontinued 4hi nothing to pre v.-nt the Urban. from  .ttit ??'!t'"?' af ?!C M!.?',r.t' M????? ?h??! which they could do under the regulations of the Board of Education. lVIr. Greville: What Mr. Roberts wants to know is, whether the Urban Authority can light the Carmarthenshire Education on this question (laughter). Mr. Roberts: No. I want to know what the effect of this clause is. It was subsequently decided that the .matter be deferred until the next meeting. GRANTS. Ihe uterK reported the receipt ot £q:( 10s. in respect of a portion of the girls' grant, and £ 535 10s. in respect of the boys.

Are Laymen Spongers ? CANON HORSLEY SAYS THEY WANT RELIGION FREE. The laity of the Church are a very spongy lot. They are ready to get, all they can out of their parsons in every possible way, and they will borrow live shillings just as readily as they will call them knaves be- hind their backs." This was one of many hard tilings said by Canon Horsley at a. meeting' of the Curates' Augmentation Fund at Church House, West- minster, a few days ago. Subsequently, to a I press representative, he enlarged on the sub- ject. First of all, however, he explained that the remark given above was not meant to be. taken in a strictly literal sense. "Nowadays," he said, the Church laity expert. to get their religion free," and it is just this frame of mind to which the canon so strenuously ob- ] jects. "Look at other denominations," he | cried, Roman Catholics, Wesleyans, any of them. Who is it that supports them? Their laity. Who pays to keep up the institutions of the Church of England ? The State and the clergy. Let me give instances. The Curates' Augmentation Fund is essentially a fund that should be supported by the laity. Yet see this," and the canon mentioned a few districts at random. Thus in Hereford £ 12 was subscribed by the clergy and 93 by lay- men, and in Norwich of forty-three subscrip- tions the clergy gave twenty-two, the amount totalling £ 52, and the laity twenty-one, total- ling £30. The apathy and indifference of the laity to Church finances has apparently stung Canon Horsley to the quick. He had an an- swer ready to the old question concerning the huge stipends of bishops. "Average the sala- ries of clergy of England to-day," he said, "and you will find that it would work out at something like JE200 per annum per man." Then he pointed out that the salaries of curates averaged about £ 150. "These men have probably had to pay over £ 1000 for their education, and are doing fine, splendid work. In whlt other profession would people of their ability receive so low a wage? It is the busi- ness of the laity to support these clergymen." All this led back to Canon Horsley's main point, that the Church of Engltnd laity ex- pect to have their religion free of all cost. They want their churches warmed and lighted, and with comfortable seats-but they object to paying. To-day the church-going laity are living on the generosity of the clergy. I MORE HELP NEEDED. I On the argument, that if vicars wanted the assistance of curates they should pay for it, the canon retorted: If you hire a gardener to attend to a. piece of land, you do not ex- pect him to pay for assistance." He pointed out that many incumbents were actually out of pocket in spite of their stipends. Thus he told of a vicar in South London, whose salary was £ 300 a year. Yet he had to maintain nin curates! Another, with £,240 a year, had two curates, as had :1 third with iE200 a year. The canon added that he did not intend in any way to say that the laity did nothing for the Church. I In his speech, at Westminster, Canon Hors- ley was no less outspoken. They were cursed I (he said) with an endowment from the Church of England which kept all the clergy poor and all the laity pauperised. They ought to take every opportunity, in and out of the parish, I of telling people that they were no longer honest if they neglected their duiy in that respect. The report to- hinl was a miserable thing. and it, only showed more and more how by silence they were allowing the: whole generation of laity to grow up neglecting their duty. A?? a result the Church at home was being crippled, and, what was more impor- tant, the Church in other countries also. It I was } if table to hear Colonial missionaries talking iiboi.it, the system in England produc- ing a pahu kind f ling abroad. The whole s >r • I; was onlv a temporary ex- pedient, end the it was sEnt away un- til a better state of t p-, exited the better. He was of opinion tblt the laitv should help a great deal more tlinn rhcy dm—in fact, ten times as much as they did at present. Proposed Shorthand Teaching I FOR THE HIGHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. I At a. meeting of the Education Committee on Thursday evening last, Mr. H. D. Rees presiding, the Clerk read a letter from Mr. Denbigh Jones, headmaster of the Higher Elementary School, stating that several gentle- men occupying important positions in local commercial circles had essayed the opinion that if such subjects as shorthand and type- writing, and commercial geography were taught to scholars in the last year of their school life, they would he prepared to take scholars at fifteen instead of fourteen as at present. As such, a change would he desir- able from aii educational as well as a finan- cial point of view to the community, owing to the increase of Government grants accruing from a. raising of the. usual school age, it seemed to him enough to deserve the Cotn- I mittee's special consideration. The question involved the provision of a choice of courses to scholars in .the third year. In his opinion it would be easy to secure .two special courses in the third year, preparatory to the entrance of a scholar in the mechanical trades an'd the cornt ic'viai pot-mi's. Perhaps it would he post3ibh:: fõr (>,mmiÜce to consider this nU8stion before 'he dmission cxamm?t?n was held next month. IT so, it would pro- bably attract the type of ,scholar for which tiie Higher. Elementary. School, was especially adapted- I M'r. David .lames Davies proposed thai; J a sub-committee, consisting of the Chairman, I Vice-chairman, Mr. W. Bramwell Jones, and I the lady members, be formed to TUpon nn the matter. Mr. W. Bramwell Jones said that ae he was I already on the sub-committee appointed with regard to the Drill Competition, he would move that Atr. D. James Davies be appointed j in his stead. This was agTeed to; and the Commiitce were I also ordered to discuss the qUestTon of scien- tific dressmaking and the entrance examina- tion for the Higher Elementary School. I j

I GLYNEA FATALITY. INQUEST ON THE BODY. The inquest on the body of John Jones, Cwmfelin, who died on May 29th, as the re- sult of injuries sustained at the Glynea Col- liery, was resumed by Mr J. W. Nicholas on Saturday at Cwmfelin. Mr. White, H. M. Inspector of Mines, atten- ded: Mr. Evan Davies, Cardiff, represented the company; and Mr. Saunders (of the firm of M essrs. Randell, Saunders, and Rand ell) appeared on behalf of the relatives of the de- ceased. Samuel Jones, Pancklery, stated that the I deceased, who was a collier, was ,employed at J the Glynea Colliery, where he (witness) also ) worked. Witness met him at 6.30 on May 29 at the bottom of the pit. They walked to- gether to the lamp station, and there saw David Williams, the fireman, who informed them that everything was alright. They then proceeded to their working place, and before commencing to work they both tested the roof with a. mandrel. This would be about 7.15. They thought it was alright. They then be- gan to cut coal. Continuing witness said: We were lying sideways. We cut coal and filled two trams. The height of the roof was from 2 feet to 2 feet 3 inches. We pulled a bit of clod down, as it was customary to do so. It was on the top of the coal, and it was part of the larger coal that fell afterwards. We tested the clod again, and thought it was getting dry, and it would therefore be safer. Before filling up another tram we put up two posts, in order to make the roof safer. My brother then went, for water, and on his return we again tested the clod with a mandrel. We made no complaint to anyone, because, we found no bell-stones there. We then die- cussed the advisability of getting the clod down, and came to the conclusion that it was safe; so we filled another tram. My brother was working under the clod when it fell, and I was filling the tram. I heard the clod fall, and saw my brother's light go out. Two others were working close by. I saw my bro- ther under the clod, and, with the assistance of Oliver Meredith and another I got him from under it. He was able to speak. The under-manager came to us at the time. Continuing, witness said the deceased was "nr,,l 1 "r_]..L- .L1- jjiaueu in ct 11<1111, coiu. ooiivtjyeu to ule sur- face. Deceased continued to be quite con- scious. The Coroner: You were not right in your judgment that the clod was safe?-No; but ws thought the clod had stuck to the top so fast that it was quite safe. In reply to questions put by Mr. White, wit- ness said: There .are some inches of rubbish on top of the coal, and it is our practice to always take it down crop with the coal. The I clod that fell on my brother was not the only piece standing at the time of the accident. There was a piece just above me. We tried to get the stonei down with a mandrel before we started working under it, but we failed. We thought it had dried into the other top. We found it was quite safe because the clod had dried up, and if a post had been placed there it would be in the way. My brother was cutting coal when it fell. I believe that cutting the coal loosened the stone. I looked at the stonei after it fell, but I cannot say it was a rather rotten one. I know the rule as to putting up timber. They must not be more than five feet apart. Witness further stated that they had only worked 2g tons of coal before the accident happened. Oliver Meredith, Llwynhendy, a collier em- ployed at the Glynea Colliery, deposed that at about 10 o'clock on May 29th lie heard a fall at the "face" where the deceased worked. Witness was working about five yards away at the time, and shouted out, "Is everything alright?" Samuel Jones replied, "No; I want help." Witness proceeded to the spot, and saw that they had no light. After lighting the lamps, witness saw that deceased was under a stone. When he saw that deceased was fast, he tried to devise the best means of • extricating him. He lifted the stone up, and ] two posts were placed under it, in order to prevent it falling back upon him. Witness then told deceased to come from under the j stone. Deceased, who could then move, caught hold of witness's back, and he thus dragged i him out. Water was given him, and the under-manager arrived on the scene, after i which deceased was placed in a tram. De- I ceased was able to dress himself, and only complained of a pain on the right hip. The Coroner: Had you noticed the clod be- fore it, fdU-No; because I was not working in that 'face." What is the custom at the colliery when a clod of that kind is found ?—It is either pulled down, or a post its placed under it. David Williams, fireman at the Glynea Col- liery, stated that on the morning of May 29th lie examined the workings at, the colliery, and was in the. face in question at 6 a.m. He found everything in order. The Coroner: What do you mean to infer by saying that everything- was in order! Witness: I tested the roof with a hammer, and came to the conclusion that it was safe. The Coroner: You saw nothing which would cause you to warn deceased and his. brother that there was something which might prove dangerous ?—No. How long did your examination of each stall last?—Two or three minutes. Do you think that an examination lasting j over that short space of time is sufficient, seeing that the men have to work there a11, day. Mr. Davies: Is it possible that the stone which fell on the deceased was not visible when you examined the place?—Quite. Dr. II, John, Llangennech, stated that on examining deceased he found that there were bruises on the right and left sides of the hip. There were also internal abdominal injuries. Deceased died that evening from shock, as the result of the inj uries. In summing up the Coroner observed that the facts were practically undisputed. The evidence had been given by all witnesses qufte fairly. With regard to Oliver Meredith, he naturally knew nothing about the occur- rence. and therefore the remarks he made at the end of his evidence were not material to the issuet, as they were merely an expression of opinion. Meredith, when asked what he would do had he seen a clod the same as that which fell on the deceased, said, I would either see that it was pulled down, or I would put a post against it." That, of course, at first sight, was the obvious thing that anyone would do if working, as colliers did, under eemditiong of great danger. Every effort should be made to secure perfect safety for the miners, and -although' it seemed that evety effort was made in this case, this acci- dent happened. An examination was made on the morning of May 29th, and, in Wil- iiams's opinion, the place was quite safe. If Willialllsmade an examination, ahd there- was no reason to douht his word, there could be no blame attached to the management so far as that was concerned. The only matter that struck one was that an examination of that sort was of little value, if it could be an nulled by a man working at his proper place and winning only 2-1 tons of coal. One would j think, therefore, that more frequent cxami nations were desirable, but these remarks could not be construed into being a blame upon anyone, as that had been the praetico. It was a most unfortunate thing that the de- ceased and his brother, particularly the de- ceased, whose attention had been aroused by the clod, should have 'proceeded to work the coal. They made tests two or three times, and came to the conclusion that it was safe to work another tram of coal. There- was doubt m their minds, and one liked to see I absolutely no donlJtundor such circum- stances. It. would have been better, therefore, had Samuel Jones, or his brother, reported the matter to an official > Mr. Davies: Excuse my Mr. j I under-manager goes round after the fireman, and he was on his way to this particular "face" when the accident happened. There are two examinations made by officials every day. The Coroner: That has not come out in evidence, but it seems now that the under- manager would be going round to make an examination after the fireman. Before he arrived at the place, however, the accident had happened: but in saying all this, I do not say that there is anything out of the way so I far as the practice at the colliery is concerned. We are, however, anxious that every precau- tion should be taken, so as to prevent the I possibility of anything that might be over- hanging falling, and, if it does fall, that it t shall fall on no person. It is possible that I' in his cursory examination in the morning, David Williams did not see the clod, but t against that there is the fact that the de- ceased and his brother detected the clod, and, j according to the evidence, the more they were working the coal the nearer they were j bringing themselves to death. That was ano- ther reason why examinations should be more frequent. It was, therefore, important that in future the examinations made in colMeries ¡' should be more frequent and stringent. Everybody seems, according to the custom which now prevails, to have done what they I could, and the death of John Jones was, no doubt, the result of an accident. The jury returned a verdict of "Accidental I Death."

BOROUGH COUNCIL. I ♦ I S'fATION -ROA;KE-UISANCE, The monthly meeting of the Urban District Council was held on Monday evening, Mr. E. T. Jones presiding. The other members pre- sent were Messrs. William Roberts, John Sim- lett, Nathan Griffiths, Joseph Roberts, John Thomas, H. D. Rees, D. James Davies, E. Willis Jones, Thomas Jones, Richard Guest, W. Bramwell Jones, John Smith, J. Walter Thomas, William David, and D. R. Jones, to- gether with the Clerk (Mr. Spowart), the Sur- veyor (Afr Watkeys), and the Deputy-surveyor (Mr. J. H. Montgomery). UNINSPECTED MEAT. I Arising out of the minutes of the Estates I Committee of the 20th May, Mr. Nathan Grif- fiths enquired what the Council had done with regard to the uninspected meat at the Slaughtefr-house. It was a very important matter, having regard to the health of the town. The Chairman replied that the matter was being considered by the Estates Committee, and a report would be submitted to the next meeting. The minutes were then confirmed. THE CLERK'S EXPENSES. I Arising out of the minutes of the Finance Committee of the 20th May, Mr. Simlett said he would not, like to dictate to the Finance Committee or to the Clerk, but he would like to have .an explanation with regard to an item of R8 in respect of additional salary for the Clerk. Mr. W. Bramwell Jones said it, was in con- nection with the Clerk's attendance in Lon- don. Mr. Nathan. Griffiths concurred with Mr. Simlett. In some of the items they had Par- liamentary expenses, and under another heading there was an amount for additional salary. There was no difference between Par- liamentary expenses and additional salary, and lie would like them to put the whole amount down as Parliamentary expenses. Mr. Bramwell Jones: But it is additional salary. Mr. Nathan Griffiths: It is not correct. In the, last bill we had from Mr. Spowart there was no additional salary, but it was inclusive. Afr. Simlett said that one of the Committee happened to show the minutes to a person, who enquired why Mr Spowart gets iP,41 6s 8d per month. The Clerk: It seems unfair to me, Ml'. Sim- lett, but that was the wording of the resolu- i tion. Mr. Nathan Griffiths: It seems to hide it under false colours. The Chairman: It has been explained to 1 you, Mr. Griffiths. Tlio minutegi were then confirmed. I PROPOSED WELSH COUNCIL. I The Clerk said that with regard to 4lie pro- I posed Welsh Council, a resolution was passed I' at a recent conference at. Llandrindod, ap- proving of the formation of the Council. They were now asked to appoint a representative on a provisional committee. The Chairman proposed that Mr. BnT'w'O)'ll Jones be appointed to undertake the dut!os. Mr. Bramwell Jones: This Council should he represented by the Chairman. The Chairman said lie could not undertake I to attend the meetings, and in all seriousness he would ask Mr. Bramwell Jones to relieve him. Mr. Nathan Griffiths said lie; did not think it was right on the part of the Chairman to withdraw. When lie occupied the chair be was the man they called upon to represent them, and he only thought that. LlaneIIy should he represented by its first citizen. j It was ultimately decided that Mr. Bram- I well Jones be appointed. I T ANNUAL VACATION. I I it was decided to fix the annual susp?nsi '.i I I of meetings for the month of August, I I. TEMPERANCE FESTIVAL. I I I I (IOPulatioii. waited, on the, Council on be- half of the National Temperance Choral Union to apply for a. reduction in their charge for the use of tha Market Hall on the occasion of the festi val. I Mr. T. Rhys Davies, the spokesman, said that they considered the Council's charge of five guineas exorbitant They presumed they would have to pay for the use of the chairs,, and the gas, and the removing of the stalls, etc. They were prepared to give notice on the Saturday prior to the festival, calling the attention of the public to the fact that the stallholders would be. found in a certain part of the Market, and any surplus they would' have they were prepared-, to give to local charities. The deputation, then left the Council ■ hambtT. Mr. J. Walter Thomas said the festival was not held in order to make money. If the festival proved a success, they were pre- pared to pay the Council the amount charged. The festival had not been held in the town before. i 4 Mr. Simlett;: Nor Wales. Mi\ Thomas: No; it, is the first time for it to be held in Llanelly, and I think they are worthy, of consideTaticn. I will propose that we reduce the charge of L-5 5s. Mr. D. James Davies said it would be bet- ter for them, in view of the fact that they were prepared to pay the amount if the festi- val proved a success, to leave the minutes stand as they were at present. If there was a, deficiency as the result of the holding of the festival they could then consider an abatement. He considered the charge of five guineas very reasonable For the use of ilio hall on a Saturday and Sunday. Ihev < were "at least entitled, to £10 10s. Mr. Nathan Griffiths said he was against I letting the Market Hall and turning out their regular tenants on principle. He did not, I think they should turn out the stallholders I' for this or any other affair. The Market Hall was made for the public and the stall- holders, but as they had thought fit in their wisdom to let the hall, he did not think they should take a nanowvimv of it. As the people would have to go to some considerable expense, lie would move that. Ihe hall be let on payment of gas and for the use of the chairs. Mr. Simlett 1 Mr. D. R. Jones: I will second -Mr Davies's proposition. Mr Walter Thomas: They do not anticipate making any money. Mr. D. J. Davies: What about the local charities then ? Mr. Thomas: Local charities are supporting them now. It is through the gentlemen in the town that they are able to carry on the matter. The Chairman said the proposition put forward, by Mr. D. James Davies was a reason- able one. He had every sympathy with the JllOVement, but to let the hall at a lesser rate would be too presumptuous. Mr. Nathan Griffithe disagreed with the Chairman. He thought the promoters de- served as much consideration as any eistedd- fodcommittee from Felinfoel or anywhere else. It was only right that they should en- courage them to come to Llanelly, and it was the first time for them to corne to Waifs. He would adhere to his resolution if he had onlv to vote for it himself. Mr. Bramwell Jones said it was said by one member that if they made any money" they would pay the amount, whereae another said that whether they made any money or not they would get the use of the hall free. He did not think it was fair to the ratepayers. Mr. William Roberts said he suggested the arrangement to a prominent gentleman in the town, and he was pleased to hear it. The Chairman: Why not withdraw the amendment r Mr. Nathan Griffiths: I shall not withdraw it. On being put; to the meeting the amend- ment was lost by five votes to four AMBULANCE AND NURSING CLASSES. I It was, decided to apply to the Carmarthen- shire County Gouneil for one ambulance class and one nursing claes for the town, which I would be held in July. EMPLOYEES' HOLIDAY. I All application was received from the Council employees for their usual holiday. Mr. Simlett moved that they be given one day, the same as last year. It was decided to grant the usual holiday. NEW INTERMEDIATE SCHEME. I The Clerk said he had received a notification. I t ]Iot i fj(,at i oll from the Welsh Department that they pro- posed to draft a scheme which somewhat al- tered their Intermediate Scheme, and they asked for objections or suggestions within two months from the 7th May last. Mr. H. D. Rees said that a meeting of the Education Committee would be held on Wed- nesday evening to consider the Bursar Scheme, and he proposed that it be referred to them with full power to deal with it. Mr. Nathan Griffiths said it was hardly fair to do that, because they required the whole of the Council to send a reply. He believed the whole of the members should be supplied with a copy of the scheme-, so that they could be in a better position to vote. With due re- spect to the Education Com nit-tee, he did not think that they should delegate the whole of their powers to them. The Chairman seconded Mr. Rees. He be- lieved it was purely a matter that should be delegated to the Education Committee, and as he could see there was only one amend- ment that ooneeriied Llanelly at all, and that related to the, bursar system. As the Educa- tion Committee were seeking counsel's opinion with regard to the Bursar Scheme, they should deal with this matter at the same time. The Clerk said there were little verbal al- terations in the scheme that he did not think they need trouble about. The only point was Clause 97a, which, in the old scheme, dealt with the pulpil teachers' centre. The new I clause- obliterated the pupil teachers' centre, and it christened it as the education of in- tending teachers." It was decided to refer the matter to the Education Committee to deal with. ALLEGED ENCROACHMENT. Mr. D. James Davies sa.id that he had been informed that the Rural District Council had been taking steps in purchasing mains for laying down in the Felinfoel district. He thought, having regard to the fact that this district was within their new water limits, that they should exercisei their power and vigilance in the future. He believed it would be well if the Clerk informed the Rural Coun- cil that they were encroaching on their rights. This was .agreed to, and it was decided to ive power to the Waterworks Committee to leal with the matter. I GIPSIES' ENCAMPMENT. I Mr. Cruest said that for some time there had been a nuisance caused at Pembrey Road by a number of gipsies being- allowed to make use of an enclosed yard, wheire they had four or five vans. The result in the back lanes of the surrounding district was almost inde- scribable, .and the inhabitants of the district were very sore that nothing had been clone in the shape of an inspection. He learned from the Sanitary Inspector that there" w as not suf- ficient accommodation for the number of vans taken into the yard by these people. He moved that the Health Committee take the matter in hand. It was an intolerable nui- sance, and something should be done for the ratepayers of the! district. It was agreed to refer the matter to the I Health. Coniinittee. SMOKE NUISANCE. I Mr. Nathan Griffiths said that some time J ago they appointed a. committee to inspect the Western Works and the Old Lodge Works in Station Road, with, regard to the smoke nuisance. Last week three or four gentlemen came to him about it, including Mr. Evan Jones. He walked up with them, and found that there was an. intolerable n i,. caused by the smoke-, which was belching out as black as it, could be, and it was a. matter of impossibility for them to see a hundred yards ahead. The nuisance had been con- tinuing for a considerable time, and he would like to know whether they could take any steps to protect the tradespeople of Stafioll Road. Mr. Bramwell Jones said he would not like Ii to propose, a vote of censure on Mr. Griffiths. lie was chairman of the sub-committee ap- ¡ pointed, and Mr. Joseph Roberts was' also a, member. The committee never met, and if Air. Griffiths had a comment to make it. was I a comment on himself. Mr Nathan Griffiths said the committee met but- they never saw the sight of Mr Brarmveil Jones nor Mr. Roberts. Mr. D. R. Jones I was on that committee. Mr. Griffiths was the chairman, and he called a meeting in the morning, instead of in the afternoon. The matter was referred to the Health Com mittee. INCREASED WATER SUPPLY. I The Clerk said they would prolxibly member that the Steel works desired to crease the size of their main for the works Kater supply. Mr C. W. Mansel Lewis lodged an objection to the laying of the pipes. It was private ground, and unless they paid him an easement he objected. It was decided to refer the matter to the Waterworks Com mittee.

QUOITS. I QS. I Ihe Lianedy and Skewen Quoiiing Clubs inet in a League match on Saturday last at the Pottery Grounds, with the following re- sult Llanelly. Skc-wen. 21 D. Thomas (eapt.) v. J. Davies 10 21 G. Madley v. E. Davies 20 21 W. Evans v. W. Evans 9 21 W. Rees v. W. Eees 14 21 B..T.Thom;isv.E. W. Davies 14 21 R. Harries v. T. Davies 17 21 M. Thomas v. F. E vans 6 j 31 J. Thomas v. W. Davies 4 1.68 84 l.lamdly play Eagle away on Saturday t.texL

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