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Perabrcy Fatality 4k- VERDICT OF ACCIDENTAL DEATH. I 1 \r Á' __LL.É\ l-1 jJLlí. Mr, \Y. W. Brodie conducted an in- quest at Capel Als Schoolroom on Thurs- day, concerning the death of Thomas Mark Kenhope (oG), 13, Ed wards street, Swansea, a fitter's labourer, employed at a Pembrey factory.. Charles Roberts, 5, Glanmor terrace, Burry Port, said the deceased who was a labourer, was following his employment on the 18th inst. At about 4.30 p.m., deceased tame to him and asked for a ladder to replace a belt on the pulley for the purpose of connecting the grindstone At the time the ladder was in the fitting shop, and before the deceased took it witness told him "You had better stop the motor." Deceased replied that he could replace the belt without stopping the motor. He then took the ladder and placed it against the shaft close to the pulley which was about 10ft. from the ground. The deceased then climbed up the ladder and catching hold of the belt he placed it on the pulley, but he could net keep it there as the shaft was turn- i n ing. The Coroner: What happened then ? Witness: He tried several times, and suddenly his arm was caught and he went round with the pulley. Continuing, witness said he went to stop the motor, but before doing so rushed back to the deceased whose left arm had been wrenched from its socket. The doctor was sent for, and previous to his arrival first aid was rendered. I The Coroner: Is there any guard on the pulley ?—No sir. I When it is necessary to replace the belt on the pulley is it usual to stop the motor first ?—Yes sir. And you are quite sure that you ad- vised the deceased to take that course | before putting the belt on ?-Yes, quite sure. j The Inspector Do you say that he got entangled in the belt or in the shaft P— That I cannot say. When j'CU advised him to stop the motor did you do &0 on your own respon- iii(,tor did i-,oti dd ,instructed to sibility, or had you be? .instructe d to do so -Tjiat is the rule. | Had you beeil given such instructions verbally or otherwise ?—Yes, by the foreman. Martin H. Richmond, foreman fitter, said he passed the deceased at about 4.30 p.m. At the moment the deceased, who was not doing anything, said "I am trimming up the stone as it has gone too bad to gïincl." He added that each time the cutwi- iN-en,, alaiiist a lump the strap came off, and witness told him to get a ladder to place against the shaft as this would be handier to replace the belt. Doe eased then said "I see; then I could put the belt on without stopping the niotol-, c-OuIL,'i-it I ?" Witness re- plied "No, don't get up the ladder whilst the motor is running. After you have Imt the ladder, let it stand until I come back. I will put the strap on myself." ) Witness then continued on his way to the office intending to return shortly for the purpose of putting the strap on him- self. About three minutes later he heard a noise in the shop and saw the deceased falling to the floor. The Coroner: Do you think he had got entangled in the belt or in the shaft In the belt. Had he been putting the belt on be- fore ?— Yes. Had he been told that before doing so the motor must be stopped ?— No sir, '41-lie sliop, aid it is but it is the rule in the shop, an d it is always carried out. Is the rule printed ana PO:ILCLI <.P .— It is in the rules, and every man is sup- plied with a copy. I How long had the deceased been work- in the fitting shop P—To my knowledge, over four months. How many years' experience have yon 2 S ycai-s. had in a fitting :hüp ?-:28 years. Have you seen a contrivance for re- placing a belt C's, when the machinery is running, but not when it is at a standstll. Dr. Sam Williams said he saw the de- I ceased at the Hospital on Tuesday even- ing. Deceased, who was suffering from shock, had a scalp wound, and the left forearm had been torn :wa\. The left leg; was also fractured. He died at 11 p.m., the cause of death being shock. A Juror: I have been working where there are straps for 40 years, and I say it would be impossible for us to get a living if we had to stop the machinery efery time a strap had to be replaced on a pulley. I A Wit Ties s described how the strap was I usually replaced, and said that when the ( machinery was at a standstill it wa ø I one-man-job. A Juror: As far as I can sie it would he a difficiiii job. A verdict of accidental death was re- turned.

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War Time Recreation. — .— A REPLY TO THE RECENT I PROTEST. (BS Ap Sospan). The protest by "two-soldiers-honie-on- leave" against, as their letter implies, the atrocious behaviour of those, who happen to be lucky enough to be still at, home, in indulging in "dancing" as a forlll of recreation brings again under discussion the question of war time re- creation, May I give my views P V. hat of my, credentials ? Well, I.-ON-ei- three years a soldier. 2.- Two and a half years active ser- vice without a break, except onc 1 short ten days furlough last winter, j j Will Lancc-CorpI. Phillips and Ptk?, Jenkins concede that at any rate my opinions arc not biassed in favour 01' the -iv a,?- botnes I "A lively dance." I I have never danced in my life, except- ing on occasions through sharp h:.rd- knocks on my lower limbs on the foot- ball field, and, since my advent to France, on occasions when Fritz has ueen rather indiscriminately dumping his 'iron rations" in immediate vicinity. Its a lively dance then Eh ? Well that fact entitles me to claim myself unbiassed in favour of dancing. Recreation in War Tie, -.I. LH J But the question tnaIJ presents u,el1 to all unprejudiced minds is, "Should any form of recreation be allowed in war time ?" Dancing after all is only a form of recreation. To the healthy minded it is as fine a recreation as any. Arguments that may be brought against dancing may be applied, equally justi- fiably, as arguments against many other forms of recreation. Will you ban all recreation during war j time ? Can we "carry on" for duration without football, hockey, golf, dancing, j billiards, the theatre, the music hall, the picture palace? Can we? With due 'IL h e tAN-0 deference to the opinons v* two soldier protestants," I need hardly trouble to state that, without the re- j creations I have stated, we cannot carry j on. Ban these and to what are we to turn for relaxation ? Whenever the muscles arc subject to sustained tension there "must" be periods of rest, when all muscles are re- laxed. It is but natural; hence the reason why sleep is so necessary to us. The Value of Recreation. j As with the "physical" so with the "mental." Undergo severe mental strain j and unless subsequently your mind -is i ested there will follow a mental break- down. How then is the mind to be rested ? One cannot always enjoy sweet oblivion of daily worries m dreamland; but in recreation we can at least woo temporary oblivion. During those hours we spend at recreation worries cease to weigh upon the mind, hence the mind is rested, and the recreation hour over, we j arc the fresher and clearer minded again to face and tackle the cares and worries of our daily life. TKie Favourite Pastime. The more engrossed one becomes in the particular form of recreation one in- dulges in, the more effective one's j "mental rest." Every man then should be f roo, to enjoy his favourite pastime during his spare hours. Every man his own choice then. For some of us the football field; for others the danemg floor, and golf; billiards, the theatre or music halls for those who prefer them. 1 am not qualified to choose his pastime even for my best chum; nor he for 1. What appeals to me often holds no in- terest for him. Why then should I in- sist that his pastime should be my I favourite pastime ? If it did not in- terest him, he would not find that "mental rest" he needs by indulging in | it. j Living for Recreation. I The only time recreation is harmful is1 when it becomes all a man lives for. Are there any such men who term themselves "Britishers" to-day ? If so they are not worthy of the name. They are the out- casts of our land. I shall not believe that there are many such men now in my native town. No Uanclly has patrioti- cally done altogether too well to be a "haven" for the chicken hearted 1 "Tiie Strapping young Fessowo. I Again another word to my protesting I friends re the "strapping young fellows • they saw disporting themselves around ) town, and in the dance, "W ho those "strapping young fellows" ? I too have iieon on leave, and have seen those ex- cellent young fellows. Yea, and I have envied them. Scores of them I found were doing splendid work for King and country at the munition factories and at the other local works producing the es- sential materials (steel, etc.) tor oui munition factories. Many more I knew personally to have been, not once nor twice, but many times rejected by the military. Again there was quite a sprinkling of our "heroic" Tommies who for excellent reasons had chosen to dofl the khaki for a wee while, and to don civics during a well earned leave. Others again there were for whom it is a far I harder fight to 'stand by' the old folks at home than it would be to 'stand to' v,- I 'til us in the firing line. Judging by Appearances. No my friends, things must not be judged by appearances. Personally, I I have as great a regard for our army of r Avoykci-s as they have for us Tommies. They have stood by us it-oVly and well, working at highest pressure "behind the scenes," that we in the limelight might be furnished with the wherewithal to send Fritz back to the "Yaderland," or indeed to a ''hotter- laRd." They hayc aID spkndidly re- sponded to all appeals made by Tommy ("wounded and at home, or in the fighu- j ing zone) upon their generosity. Let us Tommies then not begrudge them their hours of recreation, whether they be spent at football or dancing. After all we have our recreations whenever we are l able to indulge in them. "While cut "at rest," football and other pastimes are generally "all the go" amongst 'us Tommies, and behind the lines, it does my heart good to see pastimes of various kinds so freely indulged in. Ta understand one another. In fact I should like a good deal more time for recreation, and some tourna- 1 ments In various pastimes ¡et\ccn "Tommy" and his keenest admirer and supporter "the war worker." Then we would learn to understand one another for, after all, we're all "some of the b-hoys." Hail then ye lucky war workers Come give me your hand Let's shake and forget that a Tommy grew wrathful when he saw you enjoy your spare moments. After all it is not I to he wondered at for really one's nerves do get rather "out of order" after a. I prolonged period dodging Fritz's "five- I nines" in France. I I I T himself be true. j As I have said the dance claims me I not a habitue; but there can be no harm in dancing nor indeed in any other pastime if "Each man unto himself be true, For then he cannot do harm to any I man. j Appeal for a Bali. I And now Mr. Editor, sir, may I (if in- I j deed you think your kinu readers will I hear with me) appeal to one, or a party, 1 of our worthy, but unfortunately often misjudged friends, for a "Rughy ball." I ) We are between twenty and thirty I I "Sosnanites" stranded amidst two ¡ Brigades of ardent Soccer enthusiasts. Many a time we have longed for a game of Rugby, and, if our appeal is success- ful, mean to demonstrate to our chums how much more interesting is our foot- I hall than theirs Many thanks in anti- elation to our benefactors. [We heartily commend this appeal to our generous readers and shall be happy to furnish the address in France to which the ball is to be sent.—Editor.]

I In a Stable. I REMARKABLE R E Y EL AT ION 3. A somewhat extraordinary case was mentioned at the meeting of the Roacis Committee on Monday evening, in which a family of eight lived in a stable. J ne ease was evidently not due to poverty as the family included children working, and the mother in addition received a Government allowance of 3os. per week, her husband being a soldier in France. Before dealing with the facts of the case the acting medical officer (Dr. bam Williams) read a detailed report dealing with numerous occupied houses unfit for habitation in Capel Newydd and Crad- street, and a ski? I" for 'the instruc- tions of the committee. There was, he said, a building at Stanley road erected for stabling, and now occupied hy a woman and a family. The husband was at the Front. They formerly lived at Coronation road. The Inspector was instructed to at once serve a closing order. It was decided that the usual notice be served in the case of the houses that were defective.

STRADEY PARK, LLANELLY. (By kind permission). Crand. Charity Carnival & Sports Will be held on SATURDAY, 29th SEPTEMBER, 1al1, In aid of St. John Ambulance Brigade (Stebonheath). OVER- £ 50 IN PRIZES. Which include 3 Silver Cups, 5 Gold and Silver Medals. Chief Events; Boys' Race, 100 and 300 yards, Flat Handicap; 150 yards "Whippet Race; Tug-of-War, etc. Sports.-Gates open 2 p.m. First Race, 2.30 p.m. Admission 6d. Carnival at G p.m. Procession to start from Town Hall Square, and judging will take place en route. Llanelly Town Military Band will be in attendance. For further particulars and Entry Forms apply Messrs. W. H. WEBB, Gen. Sec., GEO. J. FRANCISBEL, As. Sec., 49, High street, Llanelly. j Sports Secy.: M. L. PHILLIPS, I Bolton House, Llanelly.

I Occasiona l Notes I ——— -——— i [By Arthur Mee.] I WRIGGLING DOWN. I I suppose there can be no coubt that at long last Germany is beginning to climb down, or rather, to wriggle down— I a better way of putting it perhaps. Her 1 chiefs. know they cannot win, and her people arc beginning to suspect the cruel and unpalatable truth. As they cannot j carry out their hellish programme of* victory and unspeakable murder and out- rage, no doubt they hope that- they may still "save the pieces" and so perhaps be able to prepare for another war later oil. A orettv scheme doubtless. It is for the Allies to see that German militarism is wiped out, that its teeth Are drawn and its claws cut. Moreover, there must not 1 1 1 1 t T. only be amp l e reparation, but the Kaiser and the rest of the man-devils must be severely punished. If this -cannot be achieved then in the opinion of most of us we shall only have gained a hollow victory. If the German people wait to save their face they can do it after a fashion by throwing over the bloody j scoundrels who have led them to the verge of ruin and delivering up those same scoundrels to the stern justice of the Allies. Whatever punishment these leaders receive will not be a hundredth I part of what they deserve. WHAT WE HAVE ESCAPED. II Let us not think of what Germany has done or not done, but what she intended j I to do. And what was that ? She in- tended amongst other things to invade ¡ the United Kingdom, to destroy London and all our cities, to murder or enslave our men and to ravish our women. She intended to fill this dear land with hor- ror and with outrage. 'Yhat she did in Belgium was but child's play to what she intended doing over here. This is no nightmare. It is the sober truth. It is what her officers boasted. The dream of I converting these islands into a red hell has kept the German people going nil this; time, and some of them believe still I that they can manage to accomplish it. As it is, they liaYe done their wont: Can we forgive this fearful people t Perhaps we can; hut we shall he mad if we ever forget. Reader, until Germany is on her knees at the stool of sincere re- pentance let us keep her sternly aloof, let us refuse intercourse with her in any form, let no German enter our land, let I, no German vessel touch at our ports. The Germans must be made to know their place and to keep it. Never can we trust them again. I ALAN LEO. I Perhaps not many of your readers arc in touch with the work of Alan Leo, the I news of whose death has come upon me with a very painful shock. Alan Leo was an extremely able astrologer, and his volumes large and small dealing with the art of which he was a master are classics never likely to be excelled. But Allan Leo was more than an astrologer. He was a powerful intellectual and moral force, and his death at a comparatively early age leaves a gap which it will be impossible to fill. I approached his work Yfith considerable prejudice, which a closer acquaintance with his writings swept away. It is not too much to assert that what CamiHeFlammanon is j < to astronomy Alan Leo was to the astro- i logical world.. He .wielded a graphic, 1 luminous and at times most eioquent pen. He had a mission and he threw himself into the work of that mission with tireless vigour and enthusiasm. I owe it to his writings that he helped me to a clearer understandng ci things as I now conceive them to be. The keynote j of his teaching was just this-that Character is Destiny.What we sow that we shall reap. So says the Old | Dook, and if wo only realized those preg- nant awful words the world would be a different place from what i: is to-day. ) Huxley says somewhere that God keeps His ledgers with punctilious accuracy. Not a job or a tittle is wanting in the I great account, and we shall have to answer and repay to the iitteri-nost farthing. This then is (as has been well said) the Divine use of astrology, a science so ancient and so noble, yet so j shamefully degraded of late years. A I man's horoscope shows a man, not as his fellows see him but as he is. It is I the exact reflection of the individual him- self. He may hoodwink his neighbour and deceive hi$ most intimate friend;, ¡¡Ill. c,çç<J\'e IS 1ll0st mtlll1ate fricnd; 'hut he cannot get away ?-om that stern and awful test. Mere lip-service will not do, the mouthing of a creed will not j suffice, formal attendance at service is a I sham, snivelling on a death-bed goes for 1 nought. "What a man soweth that shall be also reap." We come into the world bearing a burden of responsibility. You can call it original sin if you like. Any- thing that holds a true mirror before your face, is a good thing. And such a • iL. J- ~«r. thing is the ancielit, science oi HIe &mis. Thanks to the labours of such men as Alan Leo astrology is being better known and tens of thousands have to thank him for the light he has thrown upon the theme and indirectly upon their own mis- j giviugs and perplexities. His mortal j part is in the grave; a wiser generation, will give him the honour that is his due.

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Into Molten Metal. I THE TRAGIC END OF MR. STANLEY j .L..t .l..l.}.1. '>L £- -»- DAYIES. I VICTIM OF OVERWORK. I Tee tragic death of the Pontardawe head chemist, Mr. Stanley Davics. at Messrs. Gilbertson's Works (son of our esteemed townsman. Mr Richard Davics, Emporium), who committed suicide by jumning into a cauldron of molten metal, was inquired into by the county coioni r (Mr. Richard White Beor) on Thursday, at the Pontardawe Police Station. The remains, which consisted of charred bones, included portions of a thigh, a piece of the spine bone, and skull, were recovered out of the metal when cooled. Mr. Hilditch (K.M. Inspector of Fac- r tories) was present, and. wun the f.f;v;;nor. tragedy. Mrs. Edith Maud Davics, wife of de- ceased, of Eirinwg, Uplands, Pontardawe said her husband was 31 years of age, and head-chemist at Messrs Gilbertson's. She last saw him alive just after 9 a.m. I on the day of his death. By the Coroner: He was very weak. He kid not Ü.:ken a hnljcby for some time, only week-ends with her. He often said the works could not do without his services. She noticed latterly that he failed to take an interest in the garden j everything seemed too much to (1<:1. She did not know whether he slept all night but she often induced him to sleep. He would wake up about two o'clock ill the 1 morning. He slept on Sunday night very well. He had never threatened to commit suicide, and left home on the day of his death and went to business with I A joke on his lips. 1 I Richard Woodley, furnaeeman, said deceased came to him on Tuesday morn- ing about 9.40. Witness was engaged throwing magnesium into a ladle of molten steel, half-full. Deceased passed I him on the staging and said, "Move out of the way, Dick," and passed him. I Witness noticed after he passed him that ) deceased had a tube in his hand and i Put it to his mouth, J and without hesitating jumped into the j boiling ladle. The steel was running into it. By a Juryman: I don't think he slipped in, although it was possible. By the Coroner: Deceased had business at the spot, although he had not seey him there for three weeks before. By Mr. Hilditch: Deceased often would he there watching the charging oi mora]. John Daniel Rees, sample-passer, said he was at the end cf the furnace when the charge was running into it out of the ladle. Deceased came on and faced i where he was working. He drew a tuoe out of his pocket, which deceased looked at, and placed it to his mouth. He then i jumped into the ladle head foremost. I Witness saw him a litde bo lore walk ing J- 1 1 c. L.t ), ¡!Jb backwards and forwards in the sample- room—different to what he had been used to seeing him. 1r, Hilditch: Had you taken samples of the metal ? Witness: Yes, and I gave instructions to tap the furnace after deceased in- strueted me, as it was quite ready. De- j ceased saw the sample and passed it. Inspector Dan David said tnat at j J o'clock on Tuesday morning he was called to the steelworks. Froln what he was told he looked into the ladle which had just been discharged, and at the bottom with the slag he saw a form which ap- peared like i The shape of a body. Nothing could be done then, as every- thing was white hot. At 10.30 on the following morning he was present with Mr. Owen Davies, the manager, and workmen, wilen pans of the oody were recovered. There were no absolute means "of identification. Mr. Owen Davics (the manager) was sworn at Mr. Hilditch's request. Mr. I there anything par- I ticular in this charge on this morning to make deceased anxious f No, there j was not. There had been many similar charges. I Witness heard that deceased said he would prefer to come down that morn- ing to see the charge instead of going I for his holidays. Witness noticed noth- ing particular about his health. Dr. J. L. Rees, Pontardawe, said de- ceased passed his house to go to his home frequently, and a month ago he remarked to deceased that he was not looking very bright, and advised him to go for a holiday. Last Monday deceased con- sulted him, and he (witness) found no signs of mental trouble. Witness had seen the remains, which were human. There was nothing to indicate that de- ceased had had a seizure, although the night before his temperature was SO. De- J ceased might have had a sudden attack. Witness had given deceased sleeping I -tablets which he found had not been taken. The Coroner announced that there was I' a letter from deceased to his wife show- illg that they were on the friendliest of terms, and further than this he did not propose to read. Another letter was read from Mr. Gilbertson referring to a conversation with deceased the previous night, in which he had arranged for de- ceased to go away with his wife for a prolonged holiday. Deceased (said the letter) had been working at high pres- sure -on Government service, and had been overburdened, and Mr. Giioertseii referred to deceased as a most con- scientious man, and No words could describe the loss xo himself and the firm. Coroner reviewed the evidence, and the jury returned a verdict that "Deceased jumped into a ladle containing molten metal whilst temporarily insane."

News has been received that Sapper T. J. Davies, R.E., of Princess street, has been wou-Kdcd in the thigh and ad- mitted to the base hospital in Egypt. Sapper Davies has also three brothers with the Colours.

The Mayor of Swansea, whose heahh is now rapidly improving, intends to re- tire from public work.

Sale of House Properties. .1. £- c; c. A very well att.ided and successful sale of house properties took place at the Murray street > notion Eoems on Tuesday evening b.-t v. !:• i Mr. T. liams disposed of all the lot. offered for sale. A -freehold c-Sttage at No. -j. New row, Daf»-n. rea lised tage at No. 3, Aduiam row. Feltni'col, the leasehold dwelling house, No. 45, Albert street. f:3GCI. A trechold cottage situated at Spring Gardens was sold privately prior to the sale. Mr. Leslie Williams acted as solicitor to the vendor in the Dafeu and Fdlllod pro- perties, and Mr. H. Hay ton Williams fer tlw at her lot3.

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