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Pembrokeshire County Council. COUNTY TUBERCULOSIS SCHEME ADOPTED. Colonel Roberts's Eloquent Plea. Searching Criticisms by Alderman E. D. Jones. A meeting of the Pembrokeshire County Council was held at the Shire Hall, Haverfordwest, yester- day, when there were present:—Mr S. B. Sketch (presiding), Sir Charles Fhilipps, Sir Owen Sconr- field, Col. Mirehouse, Col. W. li. Roberts, Dr. Davies, Dr. Style, Arch. Hilbers, Rev. H. Evans, Rev..J. D. Hughes, Messrs W. Howeil Walters, C. F. Egerton Alien, Hugh Saunders, J. T. Fisher, Victor Higgon, J. Howard Griffiths, \V. Lawrence, W. P. > Morgan, Joseph Whicher, 15. JI. James, LI. Rees, A. W. Massy, \Y. '1'. Davies, W. Grieve, Hugh Williams, J. Harries, T. Lewis, Dan Davies, W. G. Eaton Evans, H. E. E. Fliillpps, W. G. Llewellin, H. Fowell, C. W. Rees Stokes, J. H. Harries, E. D. Jones, W. C. Jones, T. John, B. L. Davies, Hobert Cole, J. F. Lort Phillips, Charles Young, J. S. Evans, Geore Thomas (Ficton), Wm. Feddoe, T. Bowen, T. Brown, George Childs, W. H. Davies, J.C. Glanville, D. G. Griffiths, Capt. James, E. II. Lewis, S. Lloyd Lewis, B. G. Llewhelin, and G. B. Bowen. ROADMEN'S WAGES. On the consideration of the Main Roads Com- mittee's report, Mr Lawrance said that something ought to be done for the roadmen who were certainly entitled to a Jiving wage. The Council were con- stantly increasing wages awl salaries, and he did not see why the roadmen should be omitted. lie hoped that a special meeting of the Main Roads Committee to deal with the subject would soon be held. Mr W. G. Eatou-Evaus, vice-chairman of the Main Roads Committee, mentioned that the wages cf roadmen were recently revised, but there was another petition from the roadmen and the matter would shortly be reconsidered. The matter then dropped. PRIORITY FOR UliVLAND ROAD. Col. Mirehouso called attention to tha condition of the Angle Road,and said the District Council should be urged to main the road from Speculation Inn to Wallaston Cross. Mr J. F. Lort Phillips said it was a disgrace to the county that the road referred to should be neglected. Mr T. John said the District Council did not roll any of the roads under their control and they mained roads according to urgency. Mr Dan Davies asked if it was not time for the County Council to take over the control of all the roads. Mr W. C. Jones said that in the opinion of the Pembroke District Council the maining of the Neyland road must take precedence of the Angle road. Mr Lort Phillips thought the Pembrokeshire District Council should be compelled to takeover the Angle road. (Laughter). Mr E. D. Jones pointed out that there was a pro- cess by which any private resident can take action against the responsible Council for neglect. No action \vas taken. MEDICAL OFFICER'S SALARY INCREASED. Mr W. T. Davies moved the adoption of the public health committee's report, and mentioned that Dr. H. O. Williams, the county medical officer of health, having applied for an increase in salary, they recommended that his salary as county medical officer be increased from ±"200 to £ -250, and that a suggestion be made to the Education Committee that they raise his salary as school medical officer from f()() to £ 250. Mr Davies said they desired to place Dr. Williams in a similar position to the medical officers of other counties, and mentioned that the Local Government Board would not now sanction the appointment of any medical officer at a lower salary than i'joo a year. Mr Davies further mentioned that there were now Ili) ca, that there were now 110 cases of scarlet fever in the county, showing the necessity of the erection of all isolation hospital as soon as possible. It was gratify- ing to know that Dr. Williams's report on the housing question was bearing fruit, because the Narberth District Council now proposed to build 3<> houses, and the Haverfordwest District Council, CO houses. Mr Glanville seconded the adoption of the report, which was agreed to. TUE WELSH MEMORIAL. I COUNTY SCHHMH ADOPTED. I The public health committee unanimously recom- mended the Council not to join the Welsh Memorial National Association and submitted a county scheme (which appeared fully in our last week's issue) for approval by the Welsh Insurance Commissioners. It will be recalled that the scheme contemplates the provision of 18 beds in sanatoria at 30s per week per bed, the erection of a temporary hospital of 18 beds, the maintenance of is patients in hospital at 25s per week, the maintenance of a nursing staff at £100, the establishment of a central dispensary at Haver- fordwest in connection with the County Medical Officer's offices, branch dispensaries in the various towns in the county, five shelters at £ 8 each, and a dispensary tuberculosis officer who shall also act as assistant county medical officer, and who will carry out such duties as the Council may require, at an anuual salary of £ 350. The committee calculated that in addition to grants and the Insurance Com- mittee's contribution they can carry out the scheme with an annual payment from the county of 10s. Mr W. T. Davies moving the adoption of the report, remarked that although copies of the report were marked confidential until February 3rd this had been sent to all the local and South Wales daily news- papers. Continuing, Mr Davies said the scheme looked a big one, and although they bad calculated on a 3d. rate they did not intend approaching any- thing like that amount. Mr E. D. Jones asked for the minute of the Council empowering the public health committee to submit a scheme. Col. Roberts said that it was distinctly understood that the committee would submit a scheme at that meeting. Mr Egerton Allen said his recollection was pretty clear that the Council intended the Chairman to communicate with the President of the Association with a view to a deputation being received. He raised the point whether the scheme was now in order. Sir Charles Fhilipps agreed, and remarked that instead of a deputation being received the public health committee submitted to them a scheme, The Chairman ruled that the scheme was in order. COL. ROBERTS'S ELOQUENT PLEA. ool. Koberts hoped the Council would approach this very important question uninflueuced by any- thing they had heard outside or by anything they had read in the Press. He was quite sure that they should be actuated by one motive only, and that was that their poor afflicted sisters and brothers might receive the best possible treatment. He hoped the Council would bear with him while he sought to prove that the treatment could onlv be ensured if the Council undertook it tlieniselves. He was pleased to hear the Chairman of the committee refer to the number of houses which the Haverford- west Rural District Council had undertaken to erect. The object of any scheme must be prev- vention rather than cure, as well as the eradication of the disease. It was for the Council to consider the conditions of home life and home surroundings; in other words it was their duty to see that sanitary houses were provided for workingmen and women, and he was, therefore, more than pleased that the Haverfordwest Rural District Council had been aroused to a sense of their duties and responsibilities, and he could only hope that when their housing scheme was completed, which it would be shortly, the day would not be far distant when this disease would be practically extinguished in the county. It would be seen that the committee proposed that an assistant tuberculosis officer should be appointed, and, although acting under the general directions of the County Medical Officer, he would be head of the dispensaries; he would keep himself informed of the home conditions of all notified cases; be would confer with the County Medical Officer of Health ai to preventive measures, provide facilities for diagnosis and treatment, and not the least of his duties would be to keep in touch with the little school children amongst whom infection often occurs, and to take immediate steps with a view to enabling the young constitutions to throw off the disease. For the efficient working of the scheme it was proposed, in addition to providing these dispensaries, to erect a temporary hospital for observation purposes, for educating patients as to preventive measures and for incurable cases. For the erection of that hospital they claimed that they should have the right to draw upon a portion cf the actual sum granted by the Treasury which was granted for sanatoria and other institu- tions. The Memorial Association had also under- taken to erect a hospital at the county's expense; but it must be clear to all that a hospital under their own control and manned by their own staff was from every point of view far more satisfactory than a hospital controlled by an extraneous body and to which the chief public health authority of the county could claim no right of entry. Col. Roberts went on to argue that in the opinion of the medical profession as a whole too much importance was attached to the benefits which patients were supposed to derive from sanatoria. THE EXPERIENCE OF J'KMHUOKESUIKK. What, he continued, had been the experience of Pembrokeshire. Up to the end of May last 15 patients from this county were admitted to the sanatoria through the Memorial Association, and the average time for which they received treatment was about ltf weeks. At the end of that period they were discharged, not because they were cured, or because they were any better, but in order to make room for others. In not a single case—he said that advisedly-had any attempt been made to provide sanatorium treatment with a view to a permanent cure. The poor victims of this county, buoyed up with false hopes, discharged after a short period of thirteen weeks to die within a few days or, at the risk of infecting others, to hopelessly linger for a few months. lIe said that was the treatment which our poor people had received at the hands Of the Memorial Association, and that was the treatment, if they were so unwise as to join the Association which others would receive and could only receive. The County Council hoped to do better than that. They hoped to make arrangements whereby every patient, whether insured or not, would receive sana- torium benefit, however long that benefit might be prolonged, if there was any real hope or chance of recovery. lie had been informed that in a certain important area under the Association's control there were 57fi notified cases and only 3'2, or not six per cent, bad received treatment from the Memorial Association because they could not cope with it. What prospects had the poor people of Pembroke- shire in the way of receiving the treatment to which they were justly entitled and which the Council should do their utmost to secure for them. He might further mention that the guardians of Mer- thyr, Cardiff, Swansea, and the Rhondda Yallev had taken over absolutely the whole charge of 'their people from the Association because they considered they could do it very much better. With regard to the cost, the county scheme would certainly cost less th in a lei rate. Under the Memorial scheme id rate was deemed sufficient at present, but there was no guarantee that in time, and in a. short time possibly, far heavier demands would be made on the rate- payers, demands which, if they joined the Associa- tion, they would be powerless to avert. Large sums of money would be required by the Association to meet future capital expenses, and lie said that with- out substantial aid from the County Council the Association would be in a very short time an insol- vent institution. Possibly that accounted for the Association's eagerness to capture the county. EXIIOWKI) WITH GKKATER WISDOW. it had been asked why should Pembrokeshire alone stand aloof. Why not fall into line with the other counties? If they declined, as he hoped they would, to fall into line it would be not because they were iguorant, not because they were obstinate, aa a Cardiff paper put it, but because they were endowed with greater wisdom—(hear, hear and applause)—and a greater power of foresight. He said without hesitation that these other counties would rue the day they joined the Association. They had bartered their freedom, they had repudiated, or if that was too strong a word, they had relin- quished the responsibility as to the practical treat- ment of their own sick people. They had deserted their sick—it came to that-handed them over to the tender mercies of an extraneous and non-representa- tive body. Were those reasons why the County Council in Pembrokeshire should follow them and betray their trust. Col. Roberts went on to say that the capital grants and the rate-aid, without which no efficient scheme could be formulated, were entirely within the province of the County Council, and the Insurance Committee would have no option but to accept any scheme which met with the approval of the County Council and the Commissioners. As far as he could understand the great majority of the Commit- tee were prepared to do that. As to whether their scheme would meet with the approval of the Welsh Commissioners lie answered in the classic phrase Wait and see." He was aware that the Welsh: Commissioners had princely powers, as they had princely salaries—daughter)—but if the Council by a great majority approved a scheme put forward by the public health committee, then he said "Let the Welsh Commissioners do their worst, we will appeal to another court, the High Court of Parliament." They believed in the democratic principle of govern- ment of the people and by the people. (Applause.) If they did not they would not be there. They did not believe in the government of the people by three highly paid officials sittiug in Cardiff, whose know- ledge of local needs and conditions was of the slenderest description. Pembrokeshire professed to be in the front rank of democratic progress, and they would never without a struggle, a mighty struggle, submit to intimidation or coercion and they would never let their liberty be destroyed. Let them go from that hall united with a firm resolve to treat their own sick in their own way, and that they should endeavour to faithfully, fearlessly, and efficiently discharge the sacred duty which had been imposed upon them. (Loud applause.) 0; WALK INTO MY PARrOUR." Mr Egerton Allen moved an amendment that the Council join the Welsh Memorial until March 31st next. Mr Allen said the Association had expended money on behalf of Pembrokeshire. Mr Howell Walters remarked that Mr Allen was simply playing the game of the spider and the fly. ,If they went in they would never come out again. (fJaughterl. Mr W. T. Davies said that if they once joined the Memorial Association they could not withdraw with- out the consent of the Commissioners and that consent would never be given. Mr W. Grieve submitted that the Association had a moral claim on the county for one year. Mr Allen was speaking to his amendment when members laughed, and Mr Allen observed that it was extraordinary to see how members giggled when he made an appeal to their honour. Mr Hugh Williams said the result of passing Mr Allen's amendment would be that the Memorial wouldlbe entitled to about £ 800 out of the rates of the county. They were to pay that sum for 15 persons who had received 1;: weeks treatment and who bad been discharged uncured. Mr Allen said the Association had spent the money on behalf of the county. Mr W. T. Davies They will receive X750 from the County Insurance Committee in respect of insured persons. Mr Allen's amendment was defeated by a large majority. CASE AGAINST A COUNTY SCHEME. Mr E. D. Jones then moved another amendment, the effect of which would be to reject the county scheme and to confirm the resolution of the joint County Committees of Public Health for Carmar- then and Pembroke pledging the county to join the Association for three years. Mr Jones said he could not ri3e to the heights of eloquence of Col. Roberts, but he proposed to examine the matter from a action of the business standpoint. He reviewed the action of the Council and the Public Health Committee over this question, and complained that the committee had not carried out the instructions of the Council in consulting with the Carmarthenshire Committee and the Pembrokeshire Insurance Committee. Con- tinuing, Mr Jones asked if they were to suppose that the 12 county authorities of Wales and the fonr county boroughs were fa!se to their trust-(Col. Roberts: Yes)-and betraying their ratepayers— (certainly). To suggest that was to deny to them the very elements of common-sense. All the other counties of Wales had considered it their interest to join the National Memorial, and that in itself ought to settle the matter without further discussion. (Hear, hear, and No, no.") It was not probable that Pembrokeshire was right and all the other Welsh counties wrong. lie had not seen any emissaries from the Memorial Association, and had anyone called on him he would have offered him a whisky and soda and wished him good morning. Mr Jones pointed out that in May last the Public Health Committee submitted a scheme which was to cost the ratepayers a year, and they added this very salient note We believe that in the above estimate we have taken the highest possible cost. In the present scheme the probable cost was more than do Li bled-- (latig h ter and hear, hear)—and if they adopted that scheme what security had they that in another few months the cost would not be again doubled ? As a business man he was confident that tne present county scheme was grossly under- estimated. (Hear, hear). In a year from now, if they a(lopted the scheme, it would probably be increased from 50 to 100 per cent. The Committee had provided for is beds in sanatoria at 303 a week per head. lie did not think that the Welsh Memorial would give them beds at that figure, and if they sent patients further afield the cost would be increased proportionately. The county would have to pay more for beds in sanatoria provided by other districts for the express purpose of their own patients, and they would also have to pay travelling expenses. Again there was nothing to show in the Departmental Committee's report that they would have a three-fifths grant lor tne erection of a temporary hospital. It was entirely within the discretion of the Insurance Commissioners whether they would give any grant at all. Neither did they know that the County Insurance Committee would fall in with the scheme. That Committee could not do what they liked. (Dissent). Then again how did they know that they would receive a grant of X2,50 a year, from the Foards of Guardians. The whole scheme was based on suppositions. Proceeding, Mr Jones said the county scheme was in direct conflict with the spirit of the Act and with the recommenda- tions of the Departmental Committee. They were proposing to put tuberculous patients under the charge of the county M.O.H., who was an adminis- trative officer and was not paid for dealing with clinical questions. It was a strong recommendation of the Departmental Committee that the tuberculosis officer must be a specialist in his work and must be entirely free from and independent of the County Medical Officer. They proposed a sort of hybrid at an assistant, and they would not get a fully qualified tuberculosis officer for £ 300 a year. Dr. Davies The English counties do. Mr Jones: At the end of six months he would be applying for an increase of salary. Concluding, Mr Jones said that although they in Pembrokeshire were very estimable people they must not expect the public at large to take them at their own ;measure, and he appealed to the Council not to take the fatal step of cutting themselves off from all the other Welsh counties. Rev. H. Evans seconded, and said that every word in emotion uttored by Col. Roberts was equally applicable to the arrangements of the Welsh Memorial Association. Mr J. H. Griffiths supported, and expressed the opinion that the county scheme would never be sanctioned. Reference had been made to the partial treatment given by the Welsh Association, but he asked what had the county done, or what would they have done if the work of making arrangements had fallen on them. Dr. Style admitted that the influence of the Welsh Memorial was unlimited and they had already been able to "square" many people. The Association were allocating to themselves public health work in Wales, the intention being that when Welsh Home Rule was established they would set themselves up as the Public Health Authority for Wales. If they joined the Welsh Association in five years they would have a demand for a threepenny rate, and he asked if it was not better to be taxed by themselves than by a committee on which they were repre- sented by Mr J. Howard Griffiths. (Laughter). Rev. H. Evans said he had seen no emissary from the Welsh Association. Mr Higgon One called on me, but luckily I didn't see him. Arch. Hilbers said he was at one time in favour of joining the Association for three years, but now he had come to the conclusion that that was inadvis- able. It did not follow that because they were alone they were wrong. (0; No.") Mr W. C. Jones described the county scheme as inadequate, and Mr W. P. Morgan, continuing the discussion, said to was crude. On a division Mr Jones's amendment was defeated by 31 votes to 13, a result that was greeted with applause. Mr J. Howard Griffiths moved that the county scheme be deferred until the Council received a deputation from the Welsh Memorial, but the Chair- man refused to accept it, and the county scheme was then adopted. Mr Egerton Allen moved that in order to prevent immediate suffering and injury which must arise to persons receiving treatment for tuberculous disease on and after 1st April, liHf, if the arrangement between the Pembrokeshire Insurance Committee and the Memorial Association is discontinued and no other arrangement has been come to, that this Council approve, as a provisional arrangement, the continuance of the arrangement which has been in force for the year ending Hist March, 1911. Sir Charles Fhilipps seconded. The Chairman said the rpotion was unnecessary, and ruled it out of order. ADDITIONAL REPRESENTATIVES. It was decided that another County Council repre- sentative be given to Milford andcistigiiard. SWINE FEVER. I It was reported that swine fever had broken out at Cosheston and 2li pigs slaughtered. COMPETITION AMONG BANKS. Mr J. Harries moved that the pspaent Treasurer of the Council be given six months' notice to terminate his appointment, and that applications be invited for the position of County Treasurer, that applicants be requested to state what interest they are prepared to pay on the accounts of the County Council and its committees and that the security to be given by the County Treasurer be fixed at £ 10,000 as heretofore. Mr Harries said it was iu the interests of the rate- payers to get the best terms possible from the banks. Mr J. JI. Griffiths seconded. The resolution was opposed by Sir Charles Fhilipps, who said the present Treasurer had ren- dered the county good, faithful and honest service. Mr Hugh Saunders and Mr W. P. Morgan ridi- culed the motion, while Mr Howell Walters described it as the shabbiest piece of business he had ever seen at the Council. The resolution was defeated by a large majority.

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