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Pembrokeshire County Council. NEYLAND AND MILFORD BRIDGES SCHEME. GRANTS TO BE GIVEN. NEW APPOINTMENTS AND THE RATES. ARCHDEACON HILBERS AND THE CHAIRMAN'S HIGH HORSE. The quarterly meeting of the Pembrokeshire County Council was held at the Shire Hall, Haver- fordwest, yesterday. Dr. George Griffith presided, and the other members present were Mr J- Howard I Griffiths (vice-chairman), Lord Kensington, Arch. Hilbers, Sir Charles Philipps, Col. Ivor Philipps, M.P., Sir Owen Scourfield, Colonel Roberts, Colonel Mirehonse, Messrs W. T. Davies, E. Robinson, Benjamin Powell, E. D. Jones, W. G. Eaton Evans, Hugh Williams, A. R. Saunders, F. Lort Phillips, C. F. Egerton Allen, Charles Young, S. B. Sketch, J. A. White. S. Lloyd Lewis, Jas. Harries, George P. Brewer, Wm. Thomas, J. S. Evans, G. B. Bolveti, E. H. James, Wm. Beddoe, James H. Harries, J. V. Colby, Thomas John, B. G. Llewhelin, A. W. Massy, and Rev. Henry Evans. BLACK BRIDGE AND CHURCH LAKES BRIDGES. The Public Works Committee reported that it was most desirable that a new bridge should be built at Black Bridge, and recommended the Council to give a grant of one third of the total cost, but such grant not to exceed the sum of fl,ooo, provided the tocal Authority find the remainder of the cost, and subject to the Local Authorities completing the scheme, and that the plans are approved of by the Assistant County Surveyor and completed to his satisfaction. The Committee further recommended the Council to give a grant of one-third of the total cost, to the proposed bridge at Church Lakes, but such grant not to exceed the sum of X300, provided the Local Authority find the remainder of the cost, and subject to the Local Authorities completing the scheme, and that the plans are approved of by the Assistant County Surveyor and completed to his satisfaction. Sir Charles Philipps was moving the adoption of these recommendations separately, but Col. Roberts interrupted with the remark that it would be better to take both together. Sir Charles Philipps agreed, and said the Council beard at the last meeting that it was very desirable that more direct communication should be opened between Neyland and Milford. In order to do that it was necessary that the bridge both at Black Bridge and at 'Church Lakes should be erected. it was rather clever of his friend Colonel Roberts to get the two schemes connected, but he pointed out that the bridge at Church Lakes was very much smaller than the Milford Bridge. In his opinion, however, the Church Lakes Bridge, while less expensive, was much more important than the other. The people of Llaustadwell and Neyland were particularly anxious to have this work carried out, inasmuch as it connected the two places, a state of things which they had been anxious to bring about for many years. Colonel Roberts seconded the adoption of the recommendations, and said the fact that Neyland and Milford respectively were prepared to bear two- thirds of the cost of the bridges, sufficiently empha- sised the importance of the matter attached locally to both schemes. It was quite true that these public improvements would benefit more directly the people in the locality of Milford and of Neyland, but it would undoubtedly be an advantage to a great man/ people living in the adjacent district. The district benefited bad an assessable value of X70,000, or more than one-fifth of the assessable value of the whole county. If the money were borrowed for a period of fifteen years, the sum it would cost the county would mean a rate of one- twelfth of a penny in the pound on the assessable value of the county. If the money were borrowed for 20 or SO years, the cost would be one-ftfteenth or one-twentieth of a penny in the zC. That was a very small and insignificant sum. There was a time when the representatives from the north did not look with any favour upon any project in which the representatives from the south of the county were more directly interested, and nee verm, the represen- tatives from the south were at one time actuated in the same way. Now, however, he was glad to say, they were all actuated by the desire to do the best they could for the county as a whole. (Hear, hear). He, 'therefore, seconded the resolution in the full confidence that it would receive the favourable consideration of the Council. Mr E. D. Jones, Fishguard, said he had the pleasure of moving the resolutions at the meeting of the Public Works Committee. He clearly under- stood at the meeting that one grant was conditional on the other. It was understood by the committee that the people residing in the district were of the opinion that one bridge would be of little use without the other. The desire was to get a through road communication between Milford and Neyland. Sir Owen Scourfield maintained that the Church- lakes Bridge was the more urgently required, and he thought it very desirable that that part of the work should be done as soon as possible. Col. Ivor Pmlipps supported both schemes. He was glad to see that the Public Works Committee sufficiently appreciated the importance of better communication between the various parts of the county. That was a matter which affected all classes and all persons. While he was glad that Milford should get this additional outlet into the county, he must point out that the position as regards Church Lakes Bridge was rather different from that of the Milford bridge. The Neyland and Llanstadwell people had spent large sums of money in trying to get this communicaiion, and were now asking the county council to help them to carry on the work they had begun. The resolution of the Public Works Committee was that they should con- tribute one-third of the cost, provided it did not exceed X300. He would like to go a little further, and would move an amendment that the Council should vote definitely the sum of S300 towards the cost of the Church Lakes Bridge. Rev. Henry Evans seconded. He was not opposed to the Milford bridge, but he did not think it so essential as the proposed bridge at Church Lakes. Mr Howell Walters supported the original proposi- tion, pointing out that it bad been contended all along that both bridges were necessary, and that anything short of that would leave Neyland and Milford still unconnected. Mr E. D. Jones pointed out that a local member bad stated that the Neyland scheme was not likely to cost more tlianE3OO, and one-third was inserted in the recommendation as a safeguard. Mr Sketch supported Col. Ivor Philipps's amend- ment, and referred to the efforts already made by Neyland in connection with this scheme. He agreed that there should be some basis of calculation, but there was no comparison between the two authorities -Milford and Neyland. It was very desirable that this bridge should be built at Milford, but Neyland snould receive assistance irrespective of Milford. Mr Brewer asked the Clerk if there was a statutory provision as to the amount of contribution? The Clerk: One-half. Mr Egerton Allen said that no injury wouid be done to Milford if Neyland were given this grant. To oppose one scheme because the other was not carried into effect was a striking instance of a dog in the manger policy. There was no reason why both bridges should be run in double harness. For the Neyland scheme to be in any way obstructed because the Milford bridge was not proceeded with seemed to him to be a complete non aequitxr. The Chairman emphasised the importance of com- pleting the joint scheme, and said it was important that there should be inter-communication between the two towns. Mr Llewhelin, Fishguard, asked if it was usual for the county to contribute towards such expenditure as this in an urban district. The Chairman They pay rates. Col. Philipps said the Clerk had pointed out to him that his amendment as it stood was contrary to the Act of Parliament. He, therefore, corrected his amendment to read that one-half of the proposed expenditure (but not exceeding £300) on Church Lakes bridge be borne by the county. Sir Charles Philipps afterwards moved that the recommendation regarding the Black Bridge be adopted. Col. Roberts pointed out that Milford had not, excluding the expenditure on main roads, received a penny from the the county. Yet Llanstadwell, with an assessable value of £ 10,453, had received several hundred pounds from the county. He mentioned that the Milford Urban Council were prepared to spend £2,000 on this bridge. Mr E. D. Jones moved an amendment that both schemes be taken together and that the grants be dependent upon the complete scheme being carried out. Col. Roberts seconded. Mr S. B. Sketch remarked that Milford Haven would be able to raise the £ 2,dD0 easily, but the Chairman said there was very great difficulty in the matter. Col. Philipps, however, believed that Milford would find the monev. The Nevland bridge was a much smaller matter, and the county had already spent some money on the job. This scheme had been before the council for six years attendance at school and at church was interfered with, and Government grants were being lost to the county. A penny in the £ in Neyland, he added, produced only £ 21. Sir Charles Philipps remarked that while the Milford bridge would be a useful addition, Neyland ridge was vital.l Mr E. D. Jones's amendment was lost by a large majority, and the resolution to give a grant for the ]?liljfo?d bridge was adopted. Col. Philipps then moved the adoption of the amended resolution relating to the Church Lakes bridge. Mr A. W. Massy moved an amendment that the grant do not exceed one-third. To give one-half the total cost would be opening the door very wide. The Chairman It will be throwing away the county money. Mr Lort Phillips That is a very strong expression to use. The Chairman That is my opinion. I have a right to give my opinion. On Col. Philipps's amendment being put to the meeting there was some confusion as to the voting, and a division was demanded, with the result that the amendment to give Neyland a grant of one-half the total cost (but not more than £3(0) was carried by a majority of two. CLARBESTON HOAD STATION. The public works committee recommended the Council to consider the fact that nothing had been done by the G.W.R. Co. towards erecting a station at Clarbeston Hoad. Sir Owen Scourfield said he was told that there was a controversy between Mr Rees, the divisional superintendent, and the officials at l'addillgton as to the exact situation of the new station. Mr Rees considered it desirable to have the station removed down a little distance in order to make a road approach. The Chairman said the absence of suitable accommodation at Clarbeston Road was of very great incovenience to the public. It was decided that the Clerk again call the attention of the G.W.R. Co. to the want of accom- modation at Clarbesten Road station. NEW COUNTY OFFICES. The public works committee asked for instructions from the Council as to the advisability of adapting the county building for county offices and other county purposes, and tne probable cost. Air W. Howell Walters mentioned that the com- mittee were desirous of considering whether the new building of the Haverfordwest jail could be utilised for county offices. It was a very fine site, and plenty of stones were available for re-construction in some form or other. Sir Charles Philipps pointed out that there was a strong feeling against utilising the jail for the purpose mentioned. A large number of people considered it inaccessible, and were in favour of a new building in a central situation like the Jubilee Gardens. The committee were asked to bring up a report on the matter. THE ASSIZE TOWN. Mr W. T. Davies brought up the matter of the projected removal of the assize town from Haver- fordwest to Carmarthen, and mentioned that on the previous day an influential gentleman told him that pressure brought to bear on the Lord Chancellor by public bodies might have a good effect. He produced a petition to the Lord Chancellor against the removal, and it was resolved that the seal of the Council be affixed to it. CONFLICTING EVIDENCE. A special committee, who had made inquiries with regard to the Angle Road, reported that the evidence was at present too conflicting and uncertain for the two members (Dr. Griffith and Mr W. T. Davies) who attended the conference to make any suggestions, and they left it to the County Council to say whether any further steps should be taken in the matter. Mr John said the dispute between Col. Mirehouse and the Pembroke District Council was of a brJJlifide nature, and Col. Mirehouse should be left to fight it out in the law courts. He did not see why the County Council should fight it for him. The road at Angle had never been repaired by the district council. Col. Mirebouse reported that he had interviewed a number of men at Angle who remembered the road being repaired by the public authority. Thirty years ago the road was in good order and generally used. He pointed out that Angle was a growing village with 500 inhabitants, and two large forts, a coastguard station and a life-boat station. Eventually the matter was referred to the Local Government Acts Committee. PETITION FROM HOOK DISTRICT. A petition signed by the inhabitants of the Hook district asking for a grant from the Roads Board for the construction of a road from Hook to High Freystrop was received. The Chairman said the new road would be a most convenient on6 if only the money could be secured to carry it out. Rev. H. Evans mentioned that the land-owners, Sir Owen Scourfield and Mr flarcotirt Powell, had promised their help, and on the motion of Col. Ivor Philipps, the matter was referred to the District Council as the Authority concerned. SURCHARGED MEMBERS. The finance committee reported that they bad considered the surcharge on the three members named in the auditor's report, and recommended the Council to appeal to the Local Government Board against the surcharge, and if the surcharge is sustained to remit the charge and ;tC;'l state to the Local Government Board if the decision is against the Council the Committee will have no alternative in future but to tax all bills. MORE DOQ LICENSES. Mr Brewer, moving the adoption of the finance committee's report, mentioned that while all other work meant a loss to the county, the local taxation department was a source of profit. The increased revenue was over £200, including an increase of X127 on dog licenses. Mr Brewer also pointed out that some inconvenience had been caused to the county by the non-payment of rates by some of the Boards of Guardians. Out of X18,000 demanded, only about £4,000 bad been received. The report was adopted, and the Clerk was directed to write to the Boards of Guardians con- cerned pointing out the inconveniences arising from non-payment. AN ALLEGED IRREGULARITY. Mr Sketch called attention to what he described as a gross irregularity on the part of the Standing Joint Committee in appointing another police inspector at the last meeting without the matter being placed on the agenda. Had he known that such a proposal was to be brought forward he would not have left the meeting before the matter was reached. This creation of a new office was a serious matter, but what he complained of principally was the irregu- larity of the procedure. In these days when they heard so much of the excessive rates, he thought the County Council, as the rating authority, had a right to object to being made to provide offices of that kind at substantial salaries. Perhaps Mr Howell Walters could give some information on the matter. Sir Charles Philipps E386id he was not present at the meeting alluded to, but the Standing Joint Committee was an absolutely independent body when it was formed and any complaint should be made to that body. The County Council had enough to do to look after its own sins and its own virtues. If there was wrong procedure he had no doubt that the Standing Joint Committee would put it right. To raise the matter at a county council meeting was ultra vires and a little undignified- Mr Howell Walters said that Mr Sketch knew per- fectly well that this matter bad nothing to do with the County Council. To speak of a new office having been created was very misleading and calculated to deceive the public. Mr Sketch rose to order. "Mr Walters is not right in saying," added Mr Sketch, that I have said anything calculated to deceive." Mr Walters: I don't mean to say that you intended it, but you put the matter in such a way as to mis- lead the public. There was no increase in the actual police force. The Chairman asked that the question might be adjourned, as he intended to bring the matter for- ward at the next meeting of the Standing Joint Committee. He hoped that Standing Orders would be adopted which would prevent such an office being created in future without notice being given. Lord Kensington: You raised the point at the meeting of the Standing Joint Committee, and the Chairman ruled you out of order. Lord Kensington added that all that happened was that at the request of the Chief Constable it was decided that a ser- geant be promoted to the rank of inspector. Mr Sketch said he perfectly understood his posi- tion with regard to the Standing Joint Committee, but if he moved a resolution, and it was carried, protesting against the action of the Standing Joint Committee, be felt pretty sure that the Home Sec- retary would not sanction the appointment. Mr Sketch added that at the next meeting of the Stand- ing Joint Committee he intended to speak very plainly on this matter. Sir Charles Philipps: My recollection is that when an appeal was once made to the Home Secretary behind the backs of the Standing Joint Committee, he took no notice of it. SALARIES AND RATES. The sanitary committee recommended that a clerk be appointed to assist the Medical Officer of Health and the Agricultural Instructor at a salary not exceeding £50, that the clerk to be appointed be one of the junior clerks from the Education Office. It was also recommended that X7- 12s 6d be spent in furnishing the Medical Officer's and the Clerk's rooms and in the purchase of medical instruments. The Chairman mentioned that be was not altogether in favour of the report. He did not know where this increasing expenditure was to end, or where the money was coming from. Mr E. Robinson: Borrow. The Chairman The man who borrows is always in difficulties. You will have to pay it all back with interest. Sir Charles Philipps said that additional work was constantly being placed on the County Councils. Both the County Medical Officer and the Agri- cultural Instructor had a great deal of work to do, and if they were to do it properly and earn their salaries it was necessary that they should have clerical assistance. Mr J. T. Fisher said that when the Medical Officer and the Agricultural Instructor were appointed he understood that those officials were to find their own clerks. Mr S. B. Sketch said it was not business to pay men X450 a year to do clerical work. Mr Llewhelin According to Mr Sketch's argument we should provide clerks for the Surveyor and for all other officials. Archdeacon Hilbers complained that the Chair- man should so often refer to the burdens of the rate- payers. The other members of the Council were beginning to feel that this was an insult to them. (Ilear, bear.) They were beginning to get tired of this high horse which the Chairman was riding. Other members of the Committee were ratepayers, and he did not like to hear this constant reference to the ratepayers. The speaker said that the medical inspection work in the county was behind, and threats had been made to them that they would lose a portion of the grant unless they accelerated matters. The Chairman said it was very well for Archdeacon Hilbers, with his income, to talk about these matters. He (the chairman) might also be able to face these increased charges without concern, but many hard-working struggling ratepayers felt the burden acutely. It was aU very well to be liberal at other people's expense. Some people did not mind what the cost was so long as so-and-so got a large salary. Archdeacon Hilbers: I don't think you have any right to say that about anyone in this room. The Chairman I quite expected that rebuke, but I shall repeat it again. Mr Robinson said that increased expenditure was a tendency of the age. jje was of the opinion that public affairs in Pembrokeshire were most economically administered. (Hear, hear). The resolution was adopted by a majority. I SMALL HOLDINGS. The following report of the Small Holdings and Allotments Committee was adopted :—I.—Since they presented their last report the Committee have met once, on the 13th day of July. 2—The Committee have considered the advisability of acquiring Torbant Farm, in the parish of Llanrian, and have made a final offer for the purchase of the same. 3. —The equipment and adaptation of the St. Dogwell's Estate is receiving attention. 4.—The Clerk has been directed to make enquiries as to the liability of the Council to nlLV income tax in resnect '? of holdings let by them. 5.—The Committee have decided to rescind the order for the compulsory hiring of part of Studdock Farm, in the parish of Angle. 6.—The Committee have decided to institute enquiries into the failure of certain parish councils to obtain land for the purposes of Allotments. 7.— The Committee and various sub-committees have dealt with several other matters in the past three months, for details of which members of the Council are referred to the printed minutes of the Committee.

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