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Haverfordwest Board ofI Guardians.


Haverfordwest Board of I Guardians. A meeting of the members of this Board was held in the Board Room on Wednesday. There were resent -Nir T. Llewellin, (chairman) Mr W. G. Eaton Evans, Mr J. Llewellyn Davies, Mr T. John, Mr Jas. Griffiths, Mr John George, ,-Xr Owen, Summerhili, Mr W. Reynolds, Tier- Son Mr Collins, Clarborough Mr Hire, garoldstone; Rev. T. G. Mortimer, Rev. J. J. vans, Mr W. Davies, Milford; Mr W. H. George, Rev. Jenkyn James, Mr P. Mathias, Camrose; Mr Lloyd Lewis, Mr Jenkins, Red- berth; Mr Perkins, Sandy Haven Mr J. Roberts, Rev. T. Johns, Manorowen Mr Davies, Neeston Rev W. H. T. Walters, Mr T. E. Thomas, Mr Arnold Lewis, Mr James Wil- liams, Rudbaxton and Mr Nicholas, Norchard. THE- VACCINATION ACT. I The Ulerk read a circular letter from the Local Government Board in reference to the new Vacci- nation Act, a p'trt of which came into force from the date of the passing of the act, and the re- mainder will take effect on 1st January, 1899. Attention was drawn to the section which stated that no parent or other person would be liable to a. penalty for non-vaccination, who within four months of the birth ot tne child satis- fied two justices that he conscientiously believed that it would be prejudical to the health of the child, and delivered a certificate of such conscien- tious objection to the vaccination officer. Mr J. George What is the difference between the old and the new act ? Mr W. G. Eaton Evans: A person is not bound to have a child vaccinated if he conscien- tiously believes that vaccination would be preju- dical to the health of the child. Clerk (jocularly) If you have a conscientious objection to pay taxes, you may perhaps if you agitate, be relieved from the payment of them. THE ESTIMATES. I Clerk The estimate for the halt-year amounts to £ 6,129. which is rather less than the expendi- ture for the last half-year. Deducting the amount of the grant, fl,456, there will remain 673. A rate lOfd in the £ will bring in A:4,700, which is £27 more than is required. It is a farthing less in the £ than the last two half-years. Mr J. George What is likely to be tacked on to that before it comes to the ratepayers ? Clerk That I cannot tell. There is a county rate in addition of 2d., but I do not think you will be called upon for that money, for you will have the money for the lunatics' maintenance in November, which will very nearly amount to the county call. So I think there will be nothing except this lOid., in the £ from the Union. THE AGRICULTURAL RATING ACT. I Clerk I was requested to say something in reference to the Agricultural Rating Act. All I can say is that I have gone into the matter lately, and I found that the expenditure upon which the grant was based was for the year ended Lady-day 1896. That expenditure came to £ 9,592, and the sum to be allowed taking the assessable value, came according to my figures to f.2,912 10s. The sum actually given by the Local Government Board was £2,912 6s. 5d.: there was a difference only of 3s. 7d. in the two calculations. In addition, you have Lis 15s. 6d for school attendance officers, Z55 7s. 9d. for officials-those sums that have been paid to the collectors of poor rates. There have also passed through the Unionf383 18s. 8d. for the various school boards, excluding Haverfordwest, Llandeloy, Llanrhian and Hayscastle, to which the sums allowed are sent direct. There is also in addition the sum of £ 1,729 19s. for the District Council. Some questions were asked about the grant, and it was stated that there did not appear to be any gain derived trom the Act. I have only taken one case which is not an unusual one. I have taken that of my worthy friend Mr George, as I have seen him more particularly on this matter. The grant is based on the expendi- ture for the year ending 1896. In the first half- year previous to the grant being made at Lady- day 1897, the call lor the parish of Hasguard was 160, ivliieli would on the valuation represent a rate of Ilid. in the £ My friend paid under that call f4 10s. Id. In the next half year, Michaelmas 1897, the call on the parish was £48, which on the valuation represented a rate of Is. 3d. in the f. Mr George paid £ 3 9s. 4d. There was a guinea less in amount in that case. The call for the hall-year at Lady-day 1898, was .£33, which meant a rate of 10id. in the jE. Mr George was called upon to pay f2 8s. 6d. The call for Michaelmas will be £ 33, which would make the amount of rating the same as at the last half-year. So that Mr George in the half- year previous 'to the grant being made paid £4 10s. Id., and in the last half-year he paid f.2 8s. 6d. Mr George I never saw that. Clerk I only give you the calls made by this Union, and I have taken your parish because it is a small one. Mr George jE3 3s. 2d.—that is made for the half-year. Clerk I can only speak of the calls made by the Union. I cannot tell what other sums might be required by the overseers. Mr George We have nothing in our parish— no parish meeting. Clerk Where are your overseers ? Mr George Only f2 for the lot. Mr Llewellyn Davies: What is the difference in the amount granted to the Board and the amount of rates relieved ? Clerk Exactly the same. The amount of rate that would be relieved was £2,912 10s., and the Board gave £2,912 6s. 5d. Mr Llewellyn Davies This is a new light on the question. If Mr James's statement is correct, there seems to be a great cry without cause. If the grant trom the Government is equal to the amount of relief on agricultural lands, why is it that rates have risen so much during the last couple of years ? If our clerk will allow me, I should be glad to have his permission to obtain the information trom him. In the parish of Steynton the rates have risen something like from 30 to 40 per cent., as my friend Mr Reynolds knows. Mr W. Reynolds (Tierson) That is the Milford District, to which I do not belong. Mr Llewellyn Davies Where the rates were 2/3 or 2/4 in the E, they now are 3/- in the t. The general complaint through the county is that the rates have risen. I think Mr James's state- ment to day that the grant of the Local Govern- ment Board equals the amount of rate relieved requires some further explanation that we may understand why the additional money is de- manded. I should be pleased to have some of the figures showing that. Clerk: You speak of the parish of Steynton, but you must bear in mind that I merely speak of the plain poor rate charges of this Union. What other charges are made on individual parishes with which I have nothing to do, I can- not give information about. I do not know what other charges are made in the parish of Steynton. You have a school board. Mr Llewellyn Davies That is the same. Clerk The school boardjjrate is in the poor rate. I have nothing to do with that. If, for instance, the returns from a School Board were in- correctly made, and the grant made by the Local Government Board in accordance with it, any balance must be made up elsewhere. There may be other charges—for registration and other matters, which may call tor an increased rate, and which were never taken into consideration by the Local Government Board for the purposes of the grant. In such a parish as that of Steynton there is house property, and if there are vacant houses, the rateable value must be made up by others. Mr J. Llewellyn Davies :^We have none. I Ve have, none. Clerk I am only mentioning things which cause an increase in rating. I merely give you the simple facts connected with this Board what other charges are made on the ratepayers I do not know. i Mr J. George About C6,129 is the total ex- penditure of this Union. I presume you are deducting the grant out of the total. Clerk: The estimated expenditure is £ 6,129. I deduct the amount of the grant,-£1,456-which would leave the net sum to be levied £ 4,673. A rate of 10t(1 in the £ will produce £ 4,700, which is £ 27 more than the amount required. Mr J. George I understand that the total annual expenditure is -Cli,ooo. Clerk You must bear in mind that there is a county rate, but that is not an expenditure of this Board. Mr J. George The county rate is 2d. in the f. Clerk 5d. in the 1£. You will get a grant from the County Council for the maintenance of lunatics, which will about pay the call of 2d. for county rates. Mr J. George I believe that our annual ex- penditure in round figures was £ll,OOO. Clerk: That includes the county rate. Mr J. George Are you deducting the grant We get towards the salaries of officials ? Clerk Not this year next year I siltil. Mr J. George: If the rate is based upon a lower sum we do not get the benefit of the act we are supposed to get. We used to get this grant before. Clerk: No. Mr J. George: We had a grant from the County Council for many years. Clerk Only £ 400, and not ten hundred. The actual loss was calculated by me to amount to E2,912 10s., and the Local Government Board Grant was £ 2,912 6s. 5d. Chairman It is only half the agricultural rate-not half the rates. Clerk The valuation of the Union is £150,000 It was reduced by this to £ 105,000. The actual expenditure in the return made, without the county rate, was £ 9,952. Chairman I suggest that Mr George should wait upon Mr James and go into the question fully with him. Mr Llewellyn Davies: I have asked Mr James to grant me that permission, and I have no doubt he will kindly do so. Clerk I have done my best. It is a mere matter of figures, which are not easily explained. I wish it to be understood that if any gentle- man wishes for information relating to those figures, I will if lie will kindly call upon me at my office, endeavour to explain them to the best of my ability. (Hear, hear.) I will do my best to explain them. I cannot do more. (Hear, hear.)

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