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"Should Labour Support the Coalition?" At the Schoolroom, Llandebie, on Monday evening last, under the presidency of the Rev. P. E. Evans, a very interesting debate took place. The subject was: Should Labour support the Coalition?" and the proceeds were devoted to the Llandebie Public Memorial Hall and Institute. Mj. Shaw, Llandebie, for the affirmative, said that his object was to teach both Coalition and Labour that tolerance was the greatest factor. The reason why he had sup- ported Coalition at the last General Election was that the Labour Party was not what it professed to be. Trade Unionists and the body party were entirely different. In the Labour Party the body politic lay supreme. He did not believe in that. He contended that Trade Unionists got a hearing from the Government, and the Government was a representation of the people. Even if they had a Labour Government there would be the need of Trade Unions. It was said that there was more trouble amongst the employees of the Government than by private enterprise. The Labour Party in the last General Elec- tion had failed through the existence of an unpatriotic set of men, who had marooned and jerrymandered the cause of Labour, and the men in the past had earned their livelihood by the sweat of the brow. The latter had been classed as friends of the capitalists. There was a gulf in the Labour Party. To create unity amongst those men who shouted for democracy, and grew vivid in the face, would be to draw the River Towy through a 6-inch pipe. Who fought for the secret ballot? The Labour Party withdrew their support from the Government without consult- ing them. Mr. Lloyd George, last Decem- ber, demanded a mandate. Mr. Clynes, Mr. Brace, and other genuine Trade Unionists withdrew their support to the Government in face of opposition. As the result of the election, the Ramsay Macdonald, Jowett and Snowden gang were swept out of existence. They had a Bolshevik to oppose Mr. Barnes. It was time they looked into the matter. It was not due to the ignorance of the working class that Labour failed in the last election. The Labour Party in the election sailed under sealed orders. They were told not to say that they were Labour, I.L.P., or B.S.P., and not to say they were Socialists and Pacifists, but simply Labour. According to the Labour Party, Towyn Bach" was a capitalist. Mr. George Bernard S haw, a Labour candidate or aspiring as one, was classed by the Socialists a poor man, despite the fact that he made £ 1,000 a year. Lord Leverhulme, who taught people to do their work in six hours, Lord Northcliffe, and Rowntree, the cocoa magnate, were classed as Labour, and Towyn a capitalist. Mr. Vernon Hartshorn made a very lame excuse in answer to the reason for the downfall of the Labour Party in the last election. One out of every four," said he, voted for Labour." He (Mr. Shaw) was not going to contest the accuracy of those figures. The Labour Party failed because they were not Trade Unionists only, but Socialists affiliated to the Labour Party. Of the noisy minority in the Labour Party, the I.L.P. was the worst. He (the speaker) did not know what the funds of the I.L.P. were. In 1901, the Socialists subscribed to the Labour Party £ 280, while on the other hand one Trade Union alone subscribed £ 147,000. There were five types of Socialists organised during the past 40 years. Their idea was Let' s all be equal and I will be the boss." The Socialists wanted to divide the earth into 450,000,000 pieces and share it. They were going to get old-age pensions at 50. They had waited 27 years for that, and it had not come yet. The workers of the country had too much common-sense, and were not going to be gulled. OJ I AM A BOLSHEVIK." I Mr. W. H. Mainwaring, of Clydach Vale, Rhondda, in taking up the negative, said he was proud to boast that he was a Bolshevik. The meaning of Bolshevism was that the workers of the country, organised upon the bases of the industries they worked in, should take full control and administration of such industries in the interests of such community. He claimed to be a Trade Unionist; also Mr. Shaw had claimed the same privilege. He (My. Mainwaring) was a more valuable asset to the cause of Trade Unionism than Mr. Shaw. He had sufficient reason not to support the Coalition. Mr. Shaw had spoken of free citizenship for the working classes. It was not free, but conditional. In the last election, out of 700 candidates only 7 men went in with a majority. Mr. Clynes and Mr. Bames had not objected to withdrawing their support from the Government. All they wanted to do was to remain in the Govern- ment until peace was signed. He preferred Mr. John Maclean, of Glasgow, to Mr. Barnes as their candidate. Mr. Mainwaring then went on to describe the oppression and the tyranny of the capitalists from the Stone Age down to the present. In the tribal days, the eisteddfod was their gathering, and with that came knowledge and the desire to acquire property. Private property forced legality. Then came cohesion and oppression side by side. The mass of the people became serfs. I We hear of the Baron warriors and their advantages in crafts. The merchants ap- peared upon the scene, and ultimately capi- talism in production. The Conservatives and the Whigs quarrelled, but never in reference to the advancement of the working classes. They used the working class to aid them in the settlement of their grievances. We hear of the capitalists of EtIland orgaising an army of 500,000 to march upon London for the 1 purpose of securing political interests. The Sinn Feiners never did that, nor the Bol- sheviks. It is said that the modern working man was free. It was true that he was free to starve. As Trade Unionists they not only fought against Capitalism, but carried the fight into their camp. Although the indus- trial class were strong, they were gulled. The Press of the country was trying to bluff the people. The Press was deliberately publish- ing provocating articles. They drew a-terrible picture before the people. They painted tl-lc riots at Glasgow as horrible to frighten the working class. The Press, again, said that Russia was starving. If that was so, it had been going on for two years, and they had not starved yet. The capitalists had organised a machine of publicity, assisted by the Press, the police, and unfortunately the pulpit. Mr. Shaw, in replying, said that the Socialist; had described the old gang, and had included such worthy followers of Labour as C. B. Stanton, Barnes, and Stephen Walsh The new gang, in their estimation, was John McLean and the Bolsheviks. Two days after the Armistice was signed, the intellectual members of the I.L.P. held a dinner in the House of Commons. They the outbreak of war to the Iaxiiy of the Foreign Office. At dinner there were three towts:-(I) Peace; (2) European Revolution; (3) Our German Friends. After the third toast the waiters went on strike. The I.L.P. had tried the Red Flag dodge before to get into Parliament, but had failed. Before the Armistice was signed they wanted peace by negotiation; now they wanted industrial chaos without negotia- tion. Russia had proved what peace by negotiation meant, especially by Trotsky and Lenin. The result was no annexation and no indemnities. The I.L.P. was known as the Political Cuckoo." If that body pos- sibly could, they, like the cuckoo, stole the nests of the Trade Unions. Mr. Main waring, in his final remarks, and replying to Mr. Shaw, said that he had not come from Clydach Vale to reply to the "piffle of Mr. Shaw. The modem work- ing class was created like every other class. They were not conscious of their position. If labour created value, they were entitled to it. How did Mr. Shaw dare slander Karl Marx, the great German Socialist? This great man had given his life for the working class. He had solved the problem of the working class. It did not matter about his nationality. The I.L.P. had rendered great service. It would do more, and the only fact he (Mr. Mainwaring) regretted was that i was not moving fast enough. Evolution and revolution meant progress. Revolution was an abstract. Revolution caused blood, but this was due to forces of reaction in the form of soldiers and police, who came upon the scene. Revolution in itself never caused bloodshed. The usual vote of thanks terminated the meeting.

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