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CHURCH DEFENCE MEETING AT DENBIGH. CiSHDP OF ST. ASAPH'S GTiRniNC SPEECH. THE STRENGTH OF THE CHURCH IN WALES. Speaking at a crowded Church Dodfanos faceting at Denbigh, on Tuesday e'veaieiBg, tote- Biahop to' L St. Asaph, in the c-ourse of a. rousing speech, referred to the fact that not ten peir ocnt. of the whiAili aanouaited to about £121,000, was paid by. Nor.cen- foruik>ts in Wales, and it was certain that if the endowments were taken away for sccular purpocee much of tho good work that had bean carried on in all their different parishes would be ee-riousCy ccipp!ed. It vproved by the Royal Commission that the Church vr-os the strongest singlo dcacoair. atioei in Wales, and he appaakd to Nonconformists a.s Christiains, did tohey think that the weaken- ing of til. strongest religious body in W aJ \¿"lLd tend to help the work of Cii'iiist in this country? Was it right to weaken a body [which was going to lic.p in the battle agaenst evil, against dl u>uken;!Xtr,:d, dashoresty, and imnionaiity, and ail the other iL6 of mcdom tlliK8? Would the weakening of that body strengthen the hands of those who were dccscg good work in the town of Den- bigh? (hear, hear). He asked them to put it before thcor conscience, and ask did they think that they were going to help the cause of Christ by such a policy of spoliation (loud cries of "No," amd a solitary cry of "Yes, certainly"). There wes ocastdera-ble interruption for a time, and the interrupter: stated that the Nc-aieonfciranists could not holp the policy they puiGued. The B-isliop said the gent'i&man who had interrupted evidently belfieved each a policy, but had -an-sweoed the question courteously, and the audience were able to judge whether ha was right or wrong (loud cheers). The Golitariacts of the objectcica eeeaned in his mird to strengthen the argu- ment (loud cheers). However, he wanted this point to go home too the minds of ell Christian men and women in Denbigh. Were they going to support the cause of Chritit by supporting this policy ? Let them put it to their Nonconformist; friends in a kindly azid friendly spirit, and he was not afraid of the answer (loud telie errs*. Such a revolution would not only aficet the Church in W-alcfi. but aU otlbe religious bodies as 'well. Let them take the liistc.ry er religion in Wales fee the last hundred years. He would ask, merely as an historian, where were his Nonconformist brethren during that time Where did they look to for a standard of doctrine? He would not say that they looked to the Bishops, but he would say that they looked to the Church of England. Where. might ho ask, did they find a higher stan- dard of toleration in Wales at present than in the Church of England? He did not want to hurt the feelings of his Nonconformist brethren, but he met a strong politician in the train the other day, who was also a Nonconformist min- ister. That gentleman told him: "Well, you know that I have grcrit respect for the Church, but I have been speaking in favour of■ Disestab- lishment, but I tell you privately I would much rather jo n the Church"—and he mentioned another denomination that he (the Bishop) would iMt mention. The point was th's. He was not at all sure that his Nonconformist friends wero in absolute toleration and amity among them- selves. For true toleration in Wales, he thought that they would have to look for it to the Estab- lished Church. STRENGTH OF THE CHURCH IN WALES. In regard to the report of the Royal Coirfm.s- sion, it pointed to this main fact that the Church was fur and away the strongest denomination in Wales. One would probably say that the Welsh Calvinistie Methodists wore the strongest body in Wales amongst the Nonconformists, but what percentage of the population did they think ti z, Cdlviiiii-tic Methodists were in the counties of Glamorgan and Monmouthshire, which oontained half the population of Wales? Why, they were not one in 2.), and the same could be said about the Bapt stg. The fact was that the Church was everywhere, whilst the Nonconformists were only strong in certain patches. The Church was all ever Wales, and this was an important fact to remember. Assuming for a moment that th-o Church was disendowed and disestablished; he would ask what would be the condition of things in Wales? Did they ever think of the intense bitterness which had its root in injustice, and which would be in the heart of every Welsh Churchman throughout the Principality? He wanted them to remember that a measure of dis- W, endowment was an act of injustice, and they could not pass it into law without causing suffer- ing to the whole community. He wanted to make it clear that the Nonconformists looked for their standard of doctrine to the Church of England. In his hand he held the trust deed of the Welsh Calvinistic lucthodists cause, and it b"£wn with those words, "There shall be for ever after a Connexion called the Calvinistic Connex- ion. The object of the Connexion has been end shall be the promulgation of the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ as set forth in the Articles gu the Church of England." A WORD TO NONCONFORMISTS. In conclusion the Bishop said he oould not tell them exactly how long the Church had been in Denbigh. He supposed that it had been in St. Asaph for 14CO years, and he had also heard that it had been in Denbigh for about 1200 years, and it taught pract cally the same doctrine to-day as it ,hI then. He had just mentioned the Welsh Calvinistie body. Next year they would be cele- brating their centenary-only one hundred years (laughter). "Don't laugh," his Lordship con- tinued, "I w sh them God-speed in all their good work. I have told you the spirit in whicji the Calvinistie Methodists started, that they started their denomination by promulgating the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ according to the articles of the Church of England. Can we, as members of the Church of England, wish anything but God speed to people that are doing that work?" (hear, hear). But lie wished to say a word to the Nonconformists before their centenary came round. Let them remember the rock from wheh they were hewn. It would be a pitiful thing to see them turn round on the occasion of their centenary and hack in pieces their aged parent (loud applause). He could not believe that they ,would lend their hands to that without realising- what it meant. They are there in Denbigh to defend the Church, the greatest heritage they ever received, and they must not forget what they owed to those who came before them and the duty they owed to those who would come after them (loud and prolonged cheering).

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