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CARNARVONSHIRE POLICE COMMITTEE. SEARCH FOR THE MISSING CARNARVON MAN. OUTSIDE ASSISTANCE SUGGESTED. POLICING OF LLANFAIRFECHAN ANOTHER CONSTABLE SUGGESTED. (From Our Reporter.) The quarterly meeting of the Carnarvonshire Joint Police Committee was held to-day week at Carnarvon. Mr J. R. Hughes (the chairman) presided, and the other members present were Col. Lloyd Evans, Ca.pt. N P. Stewart, Dr. Datton, Dt. Jones Roberts, Dr. Robert Owen, Messrs, Eprir-aun Wood, D. P. Williams, R. Jones Roberts, J. Evan Roberts, J. Jones Morris, Jonathan Davies, W. II. Rhodes, R. E. Joiiei, Maurice Janes, W. J. Parry, with the Cierk (Mr A. Bcdvel Roberts) and the Chief Constable (Coi. Ruok). INVESTITURE HELMETS FOR THE POLICE. It was dccided to adopt a new form of head- gear for the constables and superintendents in ull-e county, Mr J. R. Pritchard remarking that ui view of the investiture next year it was well ihat the poieo 01 the county should look as nuait as possihle. He said the committee re- mm-ondc-cl the present helmets with a chain curb by way of ornamentation. The polioe only obtained new heimets every eight or ten years. THE CHAIRMAN: What aro the new hel- mets gomu; to cost? MR J. R. PRiTCHARD: Perhaps the firm will charge a little more for the curb which is to be uied instead of the strap. The present fcoimot looks a bit mournful. After seine discussion, in the. coursc of whicn IL member donrivi samples of the prory-edliet- inetfc in order that the rest of the committee might- study the effect, it was decided to pur- t.ia&c a helmet with a white- curb chain, it be- ing smaller than the one tlScd at present; and tor t'he superintendents and inspectors the pre- sent form of caps were decided upon with th-j addition of silver braiding- M: J. R. PRITCHARD mentioned thttiec-al fair-* were invited to tender, but none did so. REFORMATORY SCHOOL CHARGES. MF J. R. PRITCHARD intimated that the Boriiniuttees of two reformatory schools to whicli 34 Carnarvonshire children had been sent had decided to increase their charges by Is a week fo-. each boy, as the inspectors were urging the jchooLi to give better education and to better "o Jqtnp the schools. A small committee was appointed to oonsider the matter and the agreements made with the Xiiools as to the charges. THE TRAMP NUISANCE. JOINT ACTION RECOMMENDED. The report of a sub-committee appointed to cor.sider a resolution that representation be Glide to the Homo Olhoo that it is desirable that an effectual and comprehensive scheinj •boukl be formulated for de-aim# with vagiau &<! presented. Th-e report staged that Mr Greaves referred to the Report on Vagrancy of the Departmental Committee of 1906, which >oriained much valuable information and many (excellent) recommendations, but apparently the Government had taken no action on the re- tpmrnendatioiM. The Cterk also submitted a letter, from Mr YVa-ugh, flaywards Heath, ex- paining a system established in Sussex for the purpose of suppressing, as far as may be, the professional tr am p by making his travels as irksome as possible, whilst at the same time not tampering the bona fide working man in search of work. Having considered the said letter, and having also heard from the Chairman many of the statements and recommendations con- tained in the aforesaid Report on Vagrancy, it was resolved that it be recommended that the Government be asked forthwith to formuiate a icheino for dealing with vagrants on the ba:is of the rccomrnendation of the Departmental Committee on Vagrancy oil 1S06. It was also resolved that in the meantime su ps be taken by the Standing Joint Committee of this county in CO-op crac-On with the Boards of Guardians 01 tVdor.s in and adjoining the county for the Wishing of a system for dealing? with vagrants on the basis of that in vogue in Sussex, subject, bown-er, to any alterations that may appear desirable. It was further resolved that a copy of the Report be seat to ad too members of the sub-committee, and that the subject (A framing a scheme as rocom,mended in the last resolution be entrusted to the committee. COL. LLOYD EVANS said that Mr Waugh in his letter suggested that bre.a.d only should be given all professional tramps and bread ajwi cheese to the genuine working man in search of employment, but he (Col. Evans) called the attention of the sub-oommitteo to the faot that if only bread were given the professional tramp it would afford him an excuse for begging for son:cth; tig to eat with it. Mr J. EVAN ROBERTS remarked that a cotife-renoe of Boards oif Guardians had been ld in Baisgor to doal with the same. question. MR MAURICE JONES pointed out that the sceem-a in Wse-t Sus<sex might not bo applicable in Carnarvonshire. The North Wales counties shsuH co-operate to formulate a scheme. He tnoved, instead of the recommendation, oon- tained in the report, that the opinion of the »c joining counties should be sought, and this was agreed to. MR J. R. PRITCHARD said he noticed scores of children walking about the country with tramps. They attended no school and would natural!v-drift to the tramp oliuss. It was decided to refer the matter to a special Committee to formulate a scheme. LLYSFAEN MAGLSTERIAL PROCEEDINGS. At the last meeting of the Standing Joint Com- mittee. the question as to whether magisterial proceedings arising in Llysfaen parish be taken before Carnarvonshire or Denbighshire justie-en, (ft as submitted to a committee for consideration and report. The following recommendations were made by the committee :-Tha.t the constable in Llysfaen be directed to take all proceedings arising in the parish before Carnarvonshire justices; that a house be rented for the occupation of the police eonstable in the parish, in which was (or to which as attached) a room that could be utilised as H lock-up in case of need; that the Chief Con- stable be asked to ascertain whether or not there ,was a room in the parish that could be hirod for e purpose of holding petty sessions therein; and that the justices of the Conway division be iequested to occasionally hold petty sessions in fuch room when required, for the hearing of pases arising in the said parish. The report was adopted. PROPOSED POLICE STATION AT LLANDUDNO.. It was reported that a deputation of the com fciittee had waited upon the Llandudno Council, and urged that the Council should assist the committee in obtaining a site for new police pre- mises, and that it was very desirable in the in- terests both of the town of Llandudno and the county that the Council should offer (on rea- sonable terms) a portion of the Council yard for the purpose. The Council promised to consider Che matter. The CLERK stated he had sinoe received a letter from the Clerk to the Llandudno Council in which he stated that a plan had been pre- parc-d showing the land which could be placed at th 3 disposal of the Police Committee by a re- arrangement of the Market Hall and existing pro- perty. To cover the cost of re-arranging the premises the Council would require to be paid the sum of £900. The committee of the Council who had considered the matter had grave doubts however, whether the Council could part with any portion of the yard as their requirements for depot purposes were increasing year by year. They recommended that a site should be procured in Oxford-road. They had ascertained that a plot of land in Oxford-road had not yet been disposed of, and the agent of the Mostyn Estate ■^ated that Lord Mostyn was prepared to con- sider any new application by the Police Commit- tee for the purchase of that sill'. But in the event of the Police Committee failing to secure that site the Council would sub-demise a plot of land in the yard, the price being £900. At a meeting of the sub-committee that morn- ing it was decided to ask tho Surveyor to visit the proposed sites in company with tho sub- committees appointed to visit Conway Police Buildings re cells and Carnarvon Police Station re lavatories. TME MISSING CARNARVON MAN, SUGGESTED EXPERT ASSISTANCE. MR v. J. PARRY inquired what progress had Veil made in the search of William Dalies, the basing Carnarvon man-? The CHIEF CONSTABLE: The only thing I have to report is that in conformity with the re- solution of this committee a reward of E50 has been offered for information concerning him. So far the reward has not been claimed. The police have had the matter constantly in mind. having made every inquiry: 1 every possible search. The CHAIRMAN There is a feeling that it has b,n too much in mind, and that the matter has not got any further. CHIEF CONSTABLE: Inquiries and a search have been made. MR W. J. PARRY: And you have found no trace of him after the night he was missed in January or February? CHIEF CONSTABLE: A report was made to the police that he had been seen in South Wales, but whether thlit is true or not it is impossible to say with certainty. Inquiries were made of the South Wales police, and the statement was followed tip. Thc. CHAIRMAN You are satisfied that every- thing possible has been done? CHIEF CONSTABLE: Yes. MR JONES ROBERTS suggested that the Chief Constable should obtain the services of a London c vpert The CHAIRMAN: That is a matter entirely for Col. Ruck. MR YV J. PARRY remarksci that it was an important case and the committee should not lose sight of it. MR JONES ROBERTS: Wo will lose sight of it unless we take different steps. I propose we take into consideration the question of employing an expert if the expense will not be heavy. The police down here are not expected to be as clever as experts in matters of this kind. MR W J. PARRY seconded that the Chief Constable be asked to obtain assistanoe. The CHAIRMAN: The Chief Constable al- ready has that power. CHIEF CONSTABLE: I don't think so. I djn't think I have power to incur that expense. The CHAIRMAN: Col. Ruck can employ the whol^ kingdom if he likes. MR JONES ROBERTS: Col. Ruck did not know that or I. The CHAIRMAN: You ought to, as an old ni l gist rates' clerk. MR JONES ROBERTS Yes, but I have not been a Chief Constable (laughter). The CLERK ruled that the. Chief Constable would rot, with out the consent of the committee, be entitled to incur expenditure of an extraor- dinary character. If he did he would be person- ally liable. MR JONES MORRIS as lied whether the Chief Constable felt disposed; to employ outside assistance 'it he had the necessary authority? CHIEF CONSATBLE: I don't see myself that it. would be any good employing an expert from London or anywhere else. MR J. R. Pritchard said that certain state- ments concerning the man wero made and con- tradicted shortly afterwards. MR MAURICE JONES saw no objection to Colonel Ruck employing outside assistance. The CHAIRMAN thought that if Col. Ruck was of the opinion that the local force would be Msiste-d in carrying out the course of justice by employing outside assistance he, had the power to do so just the same as he had: the right to go outside the county for police. CHIEF CONSTABLE: I have- no authority to go outside the county for police. The CHAIRMAN Some time ago foreign police were brought here and- as a member of the Police Committee I knew nothing about it. CHIEF CONSTABLE: They have never been brought here without proper authority. MR JONES ROBERTS moved that if at any time the Chief Constable considers it desirable to engage a detective or any person from outside the county he shall be authorised to do so. This waa carried. MR JONES MORRIS: Is he to engage one in this case ? The CHAIRMAN: If he thinks proper. POLICING OF LLANFAIRFECHAN. The CHIEF CONSTABLE stated that a depu- tation from the Llanfairfechan District Council had waited upon him with the view of having an extra constable established in Llanfairfechan all tiie year round. At present an extra officer was stationed there during the summer months. The deputation which oonsisted of Dr. Arch- dall and Mr Timmins, pointed out the. increase in the population of Llanfairfedhan which with Aber stood at 3,169; the increase duties cast upon the local oflice through sheep dipping, the new works at the quarries and also the impor- tance of the junction between the main road and station road which required the constant super- vision of a constable. The increased rateable value of the placo was advanced as another rea- son. He told the deputation that he could not possibly do anything himself. There was no doubt that the place was under-policed as com- pared with the rest of the cOlwty-tho police- man for the population of 3,000 as compared with the policeman to every 1,400 or 1,500 persons, the average for the rest of the county. He also agreed with the deputation as to the increased duties oast upon the ofhoor, but as regarded the new works, a few ext.ra men were employed but they were all old residents of Llajifairfochan. There was something in the argument about the crossroad., and as to the higihl rateable value. The CHAIRMAN: Yes, but is that not owing to the fact that they have taken a good part of it from Penmaenmawr ? The CHIEF CONSTABLE said that on the other luind very little crime had been committed in Llanfairfechan. During the year ended August last there were only 20 non indictable cases in the place with four indictable offences including one from Aber. OOL. LLOYD EVANS: How does it compare with Pemnaeiimawr ? CHIEF CONSTABLE I have not got the figures for Penmaenmawr. MR J. R. PRITCHARD thought that a oon- stable from a portion of the county with a de- creasing population might ba sent to Llan- fairfechan. He proposed that a committee be appointed to consider the matter. 001,. LLOYD EVANS in seconding, said it would b interesting to obtain a, report as to the policing of the whole oounty in regard to the number of tho population. The motion wii carried. CHIEF CONSTABLE'S REPORT. In his report the CHIEF CONSTABLE stated that the Government! Inspector 'had pointed out trie iinsuitability of the present Police Station at Llandudno and also commented unfavourably upon the polioe cells at Conway, suggesting that tine ground now occupied by the old stable might be used for the provision of better oells. He also suggested i i n p ro ve merits at Carnarvon Polioe Station. Owing to failing sight P.S. Evan Roberts (2) was incapacitated from the proper performance of hi" duties. He had been in the force sinoe 1897 a.nd was 39 years, of age. The committee decidod to grant him a pension.

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