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------:== A NATIONAL VALHALLA…
-== A NATIONAL VALHALLA DISCUSSED. Sir Ivor Herbert's Scheme of Commemoration. SPEECHES BY MR. HERBERT LEWIS, M.P., MR. LLEWELYN WILLIAMS, M.P. AND OTHERS. -IT", has been reaAiy one of the very best meetings of tike Cymmrodorion Society I have rjper attended.' This was the concluding remark Of Mr J. IIrbert Lewi;, in responding to & vote of thanks. for presiding. in tHe a'°sence d* the Hon. W. Onmsby-Gore, at the opening meeting of the Cymmrodorion sectiorL, of the National Eisteddfod at Coiwyn Bay on Monday evening. A few m-ssutes previously Canon. Roberts, vicar of Coiwyn Bay. bad epoken with evident satisfaction of the nappy augury for the great festival iteolf which appeared to be evi- denced by the enthusiiLsm. and the attendance at the meeting. The proceedings are usually spa.rw-,y attendee, a fact that accounted for the arrangement of the meeting in the I'lng.iah Presbyterian Cnurbh, but bv way of a happy change there wa.5 an influ- ential gathering on this occasion which over- flowed into the vostibuki, and addresE<x; were in every way worthy of the oc-ea-ion. Major-General Sir Ivor Herbert, M.P., was tihe principal speaker. his subject being "National Her and their Memorials. The Hun. Orrnsby Gore, M.P., who was announced to pre- side, is of oourse in Canada just now studying the Dominion's tariff policy on the spot. < In addition to the Chairman and Sir Ivor Herbert, there were aJso on the platform Sir J. Herbert Roberta, M.P., president of the Eis- teddfod; Dr. Hartweli Jones, Canon Roberta (vicar of Go.wyn Bay), and Sir Vincent Evaas (seeieusry to the Society). Among the audience were Lady Roberto ot Bryn-gw<mallt, Sir J. Prichard Jones, Sir Mairchairt Wifiiains, Mr Llewelyn Williams, M.P., "Gwyiiedd,' Mr Percival Graves, "Ariunydd Penygarn," "Tudur dvyd," "Penjlyn, Dr. Abel Parry (Rhyl), AJderman Henry Howefl, Carmarthen; M'r Jones, Melbourne, Australia; Mr 0. Iflgoed Jones. Liana-wet; Mr T. J. Williams, CoiNwri Bay, A CONDITIONAL PROMISE. At the outset Sir Vincent Evana (tlie eocre- tary), speaking in Welsh, said that as that was the first izoo,titig in conneortio-a with the National JSisteddiod of 1910, it was but tilting that the firat few words at teaet sbouad be uttered in their native tongue. Nevertheless when Sir Ivor Herbert would speak to them in English at a later stage it should not be thought that Sir Ivor was no Welsh speaker; he would speak in. •English because he cou/,d' thus convey his mellil eage to a larger number of people than won 11 be the otherwise. An explanation should also ,-be made with regard to the Hon. Ormaby-Go- who was to have presided that night. W h jni he Isil Vinoent) approached Mr Crumby-Goie in the Hoirae of Commons about the matter, he paid it would affoixl him the greatee-i ptea^ure to I but be waa afraid he would. uave to go f.o Canada in the meantime. It ams oonditi^na1 upott that ftafc Mr Qrmsby-<Jcre rnaao a jjraxiiiae to fB.1 the chair, and it was only air W liim tha- e fact was made known. In Mr Gore's ab- senee the chair would be occupied by Mr J. Her- bert. Lewis, MP., wheee interest in the ipie.stior. under consideration that evening -was of many teaa standing, and generally known Cbtsr. bear). THE WELSH A GRATEFUL NATION. Mr J. Herbert Lewis, who ae accorded a ■)ncry ooniuJ -roooptaon, eaad he lvut that tho best serrkge he oeold render in connection with the qix»iioii to "be discussed that evening would be ;{o oomzzKod to the oarefail ooqdidcration of the tTbeeting art addreoa dfcfivercd at Llandxi-dno jpoiae years a-go by the iate Mr Tbcsmas ES-j, Oofsiea of which he hoped vpould. be av ailarhle for free ci-tdji-tim a.t the cBcse of that trot.-g- lie iavrted the speçiat attention Ijf the ymmg people to the address, because it to be leaied that the rising geaerafeon diid iiot know very much about Tom fife. Should they reaod that addroas, hawetvier, thay would Jjave adme idea of the deep-rooted Wetah spirit iclJ. dhaastetercsed that celebrated man (ap- l&a-uaeJ- Continuing in Eogltah the Chairman Kiid it was fitting- a,-at the iitst meeting of the Rational Elst, of 1910 should be oooioerood /yith &o important subject upon wtich Sir Ivor ilfrbert \vas to address them—a worthy oom- |SJCrnoration of the groat and good men of the of the heroes of Wales (hear, hear). He t, sure th-ey were all -fhanfefal to the Cymnxro- ipyr^on Society for taking t2yrt patter in hand. .{The society had been the pioneer, the fore- primer in a. great many tkidte of interest to Wafes ,T>atiorLaQy, and he had found as s. general rale íJPat wter the Cymmrodorion Society took up a TjTK'ation it was aconer or lateT-ard, Sir Yznoani the dacretary, "■enora.'Iy saw it 'waa.aoon- rather than later—((la-ught-er ajxi hear, near) k.a.t'ried to & suooessfui iswue. He 'rea ahmid ^at tfeey vr<n& MigTcSuIly obliged to oOafesB Ihat Weish <5d not. stand v^ry oom- ■•JjarativeV in fhai matter. H<? was afraid there 5r aa NO CSrVTCESED COUNTCET \n the w-orld that had doimo less to perpet ffise mesadfy of its great men by those vn^jje pad tangible tdkeiue of reepoci to be seen ;|ri other eoant?ie«, llhat was not becanse ^r'e^1 Baitikvii "tvcue unaxiuciful <rf.-t3iie sep- fj»iioe of their great nten aior ungraJbefnl to /Item. Jle once he&rd a Prenciaaaaj. say 'The public is an isgrate," bnt he (tie rfiaip- Jtiian) tJlIOugiht that iof no coxmtry was thai J^sb -true tlwHi Walee. The leafiffc faciit tsha4 jpduld he I add at t&te doocr of the Weigh people »ras iogra^itudo {hear, hear). Inde-ed, dT anyone took tToable to serve the Welsh people h0 received back full meegare. the Welsh ^'•ere a g-ra'beful people, and if tiray had not .aken thai parbicniaT .form of gratitude it jpvas not that they dtl not mllch aebnire a.n^ "fappreciate the great and good men of tihe pacrt..But tbeyj "were begiiming1 to WIPE AWAY THAT REPROACH so iar as li-teraary roenxxriaJs W<JTG concerned, saw tibe fine series of ''CafLant- now existing in the "VV^cslah lajx^na^e ,J>oaks "wfeich were iPepleSc with re- i^erenoo for tihe great service o £ the dead. Not only so, but -they were beg inning ;to gvst m.ottiorial6 here ejid there to the man frbo had served Wales. Let them consider •that partiotLkir distnict. There was a. tine ffiansarial to Bishop Morgan at St. A,,ph_ o Very beautiful -work of art—-fliear, heart; tberov^ astatuc Ho Daniel Chvon, the g-neat 1 at Moid. There was one to pii' Hugh Ov.'p-n, of Ge»rHarvon, and he hoped a^*i?Xea^ ^ia"! aevv Barv2fOT Univenaaty T'er5r donor he wus pOi-igtiUxi to &oe prescmt t-hait evening—ioud ^.piatto9! would be enriched by reemord-als Jtf their gpMt men. He also hoped that the jr-at.U<eti. at pivaent in the college bil ould fX) nerooved to the gr-t hall -whenit flKaa completed (hear, hoar). Then they had jmemoria^s to Hestry liees, Tudur Alod, "W:.l- Jiam Saiisbnry-—a most exoeiient memorial t¥ grenesoBity of Mr Davenport }< ^a-JTis. of Mx <jroeoombe J^hji w-hrj -Act-ed wi--elx in patniotiaally dovrfting- (hia y, nJ.:u.s as few as possible to tiie 'icit-c-axst- of fcio ti atrve oountrv (app^inae). TIlc, had thus .made a Winmag, and it was for them $0 &C-ú that that caa-ried to a ea^islactory eoaiclnsion. Ho was net goinff to en.^ir npon the vexed question between local memorials, arod what might be bed ns an aggr^-i.tioB of statu-ee in a great struc- tiEre that -would be Lly to receive the forms and liaeamenfcs of their diefem- gTiiahed men. What they »wcr>e chicflv con- cerrn'ed about ti-at night was to see that in future due reverence was paid to the nton ,w.!u> had striven for Wales in the past-(h-ea.r, -heaj)—those Ken who had held aioft the bl-em of liedcmptrion, or th lamp of 1-eara- ang or wielded th^ sward of the defender '(applause i. Such men deserved h<viour at hands of W<ti«i, and ho trusted that ■Vv'aios would sco to it that thsy receive the hon-our that was their duo. He had now ) the greatest possible piea&arie in calling tipon H d' soldier, dip ead member of Parli-arneart, Goneral Sir Ivor Her- Pert, to addrees them on the subject. G,-u,-Tad Sir Ivor Herbert, Bart., M.P., in Pio-course of a paper on "The necessity of a Jbammoiaanatfion of oome of the gTeat figmres in W«idi natioaaJ iiietory," said that the 1l !¡' idea he ventured to puL forward in connection with the scheme of a national memorial to King Edward VII. was closely associated with Wale^. Their late Sovereign vrjs for upwards of two genemtioms Pri-nee of Wales, an unparalleled record. That period in his too short reign had been marked by the greatest development of tihe Wci>h national revival, a nvovem.cnt towards which 1>? al- ways showed sympathy. The most euitalxle memorkil to him, therefore, seemed to him to be one vvlrYh v.riid -preoent to Welshmen and to those who might visit Wales a personal representation of our late King irn C!OGO association with a. »:<ei»oi;ial of the leading figures of the historic pas-t, vthich for-moo the background and the inspiration of Welsh nationalism. He would like to give to po&- teratv in this national memorial a symbol of one of the Welsh national ideals -namelv, t hat of loyalty to the Crowm, a.s the head and oentro of imperial unity, con pled with intense devotion to distinct and characteristic Welsh nationality. He ventured to suggest that such a memorial 'would be most suitably placed where the greatest number of peop'-e would be likely to see and examine it. and that as mn-cth for the iastmction of strangers as for their own people. Wales was oin the- "c -rgad of American and English travel, but did one in a thousand of their v-isitora go >away with any sonse of the distinctive difference? between the Principality of Wales and any distrjct of England? Their visitors might carry away some vague recollection of inc.oents or traditions -of the prsifc, some picturescjtie memories of bygone davs, 'but nowhere. unJeas thjev c^me-'to the Cymmro- dou .on Section, would JeY be aole to gri-p what the national 'n t had done for WaJ^s in all ages, oiid what a strong- factor it was to-day in the character and in the daily lie of the people. He had suggested a Welsh Yalhalia. What he wished to di?vcvgn-
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ELECT OF THE NATION.
ate by the term "Nationad YaLballa" was a place in whkih the chosen ones of the nation wKruld be en-:hrmed for the admiration of po&- terity, just as the hepoeii chosen by the Welsh for election of .the Gothic gods were seated with them in the W aihalla, -or abode of the chosen. ELECT OF THE NATION. After referring to various attempts maOe by other nations to collect together in a na- tional memorial those who had made thoir greafcttesso, I Ivor askjed his hearers to iook into the past, amd call up some of the figures of those who might be includ-ed amid the el-ect of the n-ati«n. Ho would like to set it as a taok to th-e members of that honour- able society to seloet pe and incidents from Welsh hastory from tie tiarle of Rhodri Fawr (844) tQ. the birth of Edward the Peace- maker (1841). Starting from ILhodri Pawr, one of tits next striking figures was Hyw-el tthe GOGd, who cxxUfied tlbe unwritten laws and customs of Waies. It was fitting that a great iawyar shouid be among the first of Walsh historic characters, boeause ffi latter times Walce had wot oniy proviiMi abundant work for lawyers, but had likewise produced IDelll eraaaeat in both branches of the iearoed profession. TTPO numes in our day would be in the monk of e"»eryeaBeipr*-Fent—tJuise of Sir Ssimuel Evansand the Cfcaaoellar of the Exchequer. Rertariiiiig- to the nmth a-Tt^l t?Tith oenturieB, they had the pictureaquo figure of Ajrtgharad, last of tbe of Itacl- gfwn. In the earlj part of tfue -!oW-etruggi. of Nortnan invaaea they had Cynan, the wandering- exile, aad his son, Gntgydd ab Cj'nan.. Later they had Llewelyn (ap Lor- worth, and Llewelyn, the last Pt^7kvj fol- lowed by Hoary Ttid-or, who won t&- Crown oi Bagla&d on Bcsrw^rth fioLd. Besidee jitixxs who had beoome iSwtri««uB ,ui tbe xtsoliission of arrae, there were those ■«!» in field of l-eamng and liteiataire had earned a right to national coiffmieiino ration. Having ettjniteiscbed those of tho eeaturies who deserved ItmmT, he mmtijwJ tkoso of more^rec-cr't uncliidkig- translafcoxs .of the Wcoah Bibles, wio might be inclu with the men twho felt the inspiration of sacred poetry, Vfek-h Laiej- oa found cxpresBioTi in the sposiaJKoas vemes of Willianm Pajxtyoelyn land tho-fcyaiwetegiefea of the eighteen Lh ccn- tury. In Wales, saad Sir Ivor, religion and love of l-earniag had in hand. In the revival of qc-&mmg of the Tudor period they found the najnes of marry Welshmen who were not ocfeoiars only, but statoomen (applaaso). Jesus Co., Oxford, attested the mnnifieeinaa, the patriotism, and love of learning of Sir Leoluae Jaakrizrs, a. scholar allii a. isecPEtary of States while Petmhroko Co,Lkige, Cambrsdg-e, was a monument to her who waa rrSydmey s sister, Pmnhroke's mother." In a. later age Griffith Jojies, of lilandddw-nar, did naoi-o for natioaial edacation than any of thegn, za-d the piefcuresqae figure of tlie old Glamorgan st-ore aiasaa, lolo Mor- ganw.g, had always a straa^e fascination for weiglixaea. logo's devotion to learning de- served fflare Teoogaition from his fellow- ooimtry men. Two other Jiasaes of men known to many now busy should also be meoti<roed— Oexxiog, the poet of the country in which that naeetiHg- was heed, and IaQwyn, the poet orf G-wcnt. An attempt was being- made to OUMMielmwzte Ceiriog- in a "befitting manner, aayl he hoped ^eBHtiiyBg- of the same kiaul HHgiit bedore in the oaae of Ifilwyti. A FREE PEOPI-E. The present memorial to Islwyn was tOO lifctie cia-pel an which, he ministerad, recently restored. It was a humble little place in a lovely seqaester^d valioy, which was now rapidly bebig transformed into a busy mining- centre. Sr Ivor asked sail good Cymmrodor- ion to oonsifcr w&etber one of the most char- actsn^tie Welsh. -QUxLern .poets should not find a piaee in a national memorial. He ^SJr I had the conviction that in Wales, in the ntah iacd turmoil of modern life and in th-e lzee-n spirit of competition, thfey were apt to forg^st that tfcey had a great and glorious heritage in the ^pnccless gift from their foro- f athsirB of & ji at tonality that might have been subdued, but had niever been ooncjnexcd. We are, said Jhe speaker, in conclusion, a fpeo }>eoplo who have preserved our individuality, t uoug-h we have lost oinr sovt). We fU"e a disstinct unit in the family of natioais whiidi is cailed the Brritish Empire, and we I shall best aearve that Empire, best prove our ^Jj^ty, by preserving our national ideals and characteristics, and by cherishin <y and keeping- alive t-be laemory of that national at' ou al me and national hastory which has esnriched the world- with great personalities, and adorrwd it with distinguished aiihieveme-nte (loud applause). Sir Manehant WiliLiams, who described Sir Ivor 36 a mafeaonalsstof nationalists, spoke in terms of sound praise of the General's "most inspiring- address," and suggested that the names of Henry Vaugiran amd Richard Wilson fiJiouid not be forgotten in the list of eminent W'ekiiiaeji rt&w no more. The Yibar of Col wyn Bay, who sipoke in We-feh, ooagratulated the Eisteddfod pro- moters uraoa tise .eng prospects held oat in tliio strKaglh la:iid character of the andienoe for the snooess ocf the Eisteddfod itself. He urged that something be done with tihe object of acquainting the public more g^ffieraHy of the aims and objects of tlwi Cymnnrod»rion Society, and emphasised the importance of as factors to in- flu-eroo and isspire the youth of a. country, concluding- with an expression of hopoo that the d Lscussicu would make thean all more patriotic dn the particulir direction under discussion. The Chairman introduced the member for CairroiGJJtken Be-rougie as "one iof the most dashmgHishcd students Wales has ever poesese^d/' Mr Llewelyn Williams, M.P., who was very heartily dicered described Sir Ivor Herbert as one of the descendants of the historic hoTisas of 'Wa.lea who. could trace his desoeat back to Sic time when one of the Herberts fought not for the Hoiise of York. but for the (defence of the daughter of Llewelyn Fawr. He was glad Sir Ivor has associated the id-ea of a national valHaalla with the memory of King Edward YII., because, as the speaker defxwibed in detafl, King Edward was a. direct descendant from Llewelyn ir, aw, and aiso from Argl-wydd Ehvs of Dynvor. "The only family in the world," eaid; the' speaker, "that can claim descent from the princely houses, both of North and South Wales is the royal house that now rules the British Empire (applause). Therefore, next year WHEN THE PRINCE COMES at the invitation of his people of Wales to be invested wiith the insignia, of olikx? in the great Castle of Carnarvon he will co.me here as a representative of the ancient line of princes of Gwyncdd and Dihcubaith (loud aipplause). The J'on. member added that there never was such a romantic story as the story of Wales, and let the-m cling to what was best in their past; let them u>n<iersta,r.d, but let them be in no dehseion as to what that past had been. Wales had never boeu a united country; there never was amy real national unity until their own day. They should, therefore, still more look foirward to the future as a time when they would have "cyfnod ei gogoniant" (applause). The symbol and sign of the new dawn that had broken upon them was that they sthouid draw collective inspiration from aJJ the unknown heroes of every hill-side whose graves were to be found from "Caergybi i -G a-rdydd." He hoped to see the day daw-ibing when they would not only have their national valhalla, but living in the hearts of Welshmen a reaJ sense of the inspiration t.9 DC- drawn, from the past and a determination that "Cymru fyd-d" would be greater and nobler even than "Cvmru fu" (Joud applause;. Mr Thomas Matthews, M.A., who continued the discussion, said vibe scheme would not be compk^e; without national memorials to each hero in his native or on or near io the. of his great achievemeoft. TTtc-y not include, in a valhalla memorials to all t3» great men to whom they were invlebted and to supplement. 3s he sngg-ested that they had a naional art gulkary, oere section of which would be given to the portraits, artistic, or ofi-,Le-wise, of i'liftir heroes, many of whom wre not ade- quately nepreeenied in j-curtraiture. The sculp- tors aiid painters of Wales—such men as John Gibson (whose works are to bo seeii at liafod- u-nios, n-aiio of them could forget af'er aceing tbem onoø) and HIlIY Wilson—dieserved OOIn- mernoriation. F-irtally, tihe speaker pointe.d aol, that the qu'in-ceiibcJiary of Owe^i Glyiidwr would be braced within five years, and he strongly urged that imnrediat-o steps be taken with a view to a proper public celebration of the event (hear, hoar), At the Gha-irman's suggestion, the subject was referred to the Cottiieil of Cymmrodorkiei for consider atioii. THANKS Lrt pino-pcsing thanks to Sir Ivor Herbert for his address, Sir J. Herbert Roberts said that as president of the Eisteddifod he was glad to -wJ- i-ome Sir Ivor to North Wales, anI(]! egsesially to the CcJwyn Bay Naisicmal Eistedldfod. He cord- ially agreed with what had been sitid with re- gard to a natisiiial valhalla, but be thought that no su-ah movt^H«2it siiould put a check upon local schemes to corrtmemorafe ihe memory of local g-reat men—{hear, hear),because he beHeved it Was perhaps more important that they had mearjoriais to their heroes in places where they had lived, moved, audi had their being' as they wcuid thus better serve to uplift the gesieiral mass of the people "Sian a natioaal memorial actuated in one particular place (hear, hear). Sir J. Prichardi Jouieis seconded the motion, which waa carried with enthusiasm. Sir Ivor Eterbert, in responding, remarked in reference to one of the points raised by Mx Matthews that the National Museum of Wales was meant, to supply the want in regard to ex- hibiting portraits of famous Welslimen. There was roam for aH the me&ode suggested of dea.1- jmg with that question, aad the adfosme he had outbaaeidi was merely the offspriisg of his own mind' (hear, beer). Thanks wene voted the Chairman on tihe mo- tion of Dr. Hartweli Jane-s., seconded by Mr Dd. Jonee, of Medboume.
WHAT TO DO WITH OUR BOYS.
WHAT TO DO WITH OUR BOYS. NOTEWORTHY SCHEME FAVOURABLY RECEIVED. Wodneadays pfraoeodings opeoodi at 9 a.m. with tihe second meeting: of tihe Cymsnrodariosn Society in the E»giish Presbytecan Cirorch, and iK>twii25ataadiDg- the somewhat early tbere was an in'3ueotia £ and thoroughly rep. sen-tative a.ce. Sir J. Herbert Robext, M.P., psresidiedi aaid he waa aoeaa^wnied by Dr. Hartweli Jones, r Yinoesit Evans, and Mr W. J. Evans, of the Abergele Ifitezsnediafaa Susool, wiio was an- no'aiioed to read a paper on. "A W-cJsli Sdioois' and Uifiveaaifcies ifcim^ojaivxBt Bwneaxt." In opeaikig the rneeaag, Sir Herbert Roberta said itio paper to be read- by LLix. friemd, Mr W. J. Evaais, would be of very great isaberresi and knportiatfsoe to the immediate futua-e lie oi Waies. TIr-re would be in it, he (Sir IlerborQ took it for granted:, special refeavnoe^to the secondary schools of Wales. It would; scarcely be necessary to give in that meeting the figuies Aowing- tihe ex itj-am?Ujinry deveiopBUfiirt whi-cth had taken placw duriag tie last fif teen years in their secondary aoh-ools. He might, however, remind! thorn that in 1894, when the system was established, there were 493 scholars in the sdhooJa; to-day tbffl were 13,700 (applauaa). He recollected well, just at the bcigirmiiig of the n, his friend Mr Tom Ellis tetiing Tirm. that in ten. years taarrc the seocaida<y or iatermediate aahools <xf Waies WOBM bring abaut a revolution in the education of tiU&ir wa ootsatry. That prophesy had been fulfilled (appkuiso). It waa €ha of Weist oducaiioin, but the mflar- mIJoæ suotssss of their educational system. teougirt with it ad4ad respoaisibSity smd anxiety. It was clear thai ^ywaver pearfeet a madlme pi gt'it be duriag- The first 20, 25 or 30 Yeats of its Iflstory must bo la«ga]y experinental (hoax, hear). MW.n.kffi rrrasfc be made; false limes of adrvaaice mus4 now audi anaki be drawn. They, could not at tine ottteet of me establisluricot of a. system of feat kind aaaaafely tell wliat actual dsvefopxoemt would Ly,, made m the lines of the future (hear, hear). Tb&y wlaawk Ld,, titat certain mistakes had beem. made, but let thcan face that fact bravely and ooarageoi^ly. Let fliem not weop bicter teaas over the past, but rather do aH they ooald to vamedy wbiit mig-h-t ba defective in their system—^bear, hear}—and thus aecaie the ixwt jjessibSa results from it. Whaiopea- dhaxges, however, there might be made in tlvo future let tlent clinjg- streojuousily to their rigfct to govern in, education in Wales (ap- plause}. WSiatovesr might be the future let tiuam hold: fast to that, booause it was "their own sys- tem aid let ISJCCII ooiitrol and Ariuo it (loud dh<»rs). Wtat was the problem they had to f;;we? It was tliat every year from their secon- dary schools between 5,000 and: 6,000 boys arad girls went out into life. He was glad to notice ftc-m the latest report of the Central Welsh Board) that tiie period of educetiom or resideinos ii-i their mtenruediate siaools waa being gradually lea^gthenod. He h^ped that development would ooiui-Tiue (hear, hear). But what employment was there for their boys and girie an leaving the schools-? He dbdJ not for a moment look upon edacatkxn as sometihing- with a mere matei-ial end; the object of education was not to fit a boy or g-irl pricnaiily to make raoney. It was NOT A MONFY-MAKING MACHINE (appkmso). lbs re4, elbjeet was to fit, boy and girj to make tihe right use, the best use of the opportunities in life which surrounded each individual sdbolar (hear, hear). The time had come, Sowever, wfeea. they should consider whethor it would not be possible to bring- their system of educatiein into closer touch with the actualities of life (cheems). That would broaden their oonooption of esBuoaticm. It was now as important to tem-di a boy to be successful in oomanerco as it waa to teach ilmVi the way to asttaan suseass in -othor sphoies of life (bear, hear). The tiuke had ooctati fex a greater degree of difforetJiiaciou. Tbay nruot have diffi- cult typas of eabeok to edsiaate aEd ptepare tsohoIaiB, for every va.riety of cjcpexaeaoe which awaited them in life. Sir Herbert prooeeded to refer to tbo luovv-ntfiit looently initiated for bringing the Wo&h rcho&b and tfh-sir teadbera into ciosex cl with tlie civil service tmuminaiions, as a reswli of which he hoped to sco about 190 Woiih Couoty Scheol boys obtaining appoint- luonfe each year in the second! dhss of the civil service, and a number of Weifeh University men securing- same of the hig-lier appoiatmeBts tn Division 1. of the examinations (applaieje). He had travolied all over the wodd, aad hiayd some knowledge of t&e epeaiitgs. to be oitaanest in the foreign and oaifwii-al Bnrricets. It was his PkT- ticuiar desire to seo W.J.oeD taking a groayter eliaro in the govermaent of the grt-at. empire to wMch tkey b&ionged. He hopjd that JTKJVXV mMit w^urd bo the means in tune of making boys and girls, to a larger extent than even n'aw 1 14 the rulers of tie world, (ofleerg). He hcjl great, pleasure in calling upon. his friend, Mr W. X I Evans, to read his parser.
MR EVAN'S PAPER.
MR EVAN'S PAPER. ilir EVANS prefaced his remarks w?dh Tefereaiees to the oanticu".s plbrt played by these section al gatberxngs in moulding pub- iic opinieci in WaJes -on questions of national import, amd sbo how mast of the eooio- A ties hblding their meetings in ooEnection with that Eisteddfod were offshoots of the Cyuimrodorrion st-em. Among theso he re- GriU'Ctd t-he far-t thait the Wd<jh Language So- I ciety, wlhich had tio fine a rccord 'of clduca- ti'O.nal triumphs to its credit in popularising the study and use of 'the native tongue, establish", d as t-is.-c result of a paper read exautly 'Iwcerty-five y«ar.<? ago at the Aber- dare Nat.ouiil Eisteddfod by his father, Mr Beriah G. Evans. He pro- o?r<kd: — In all grades of education, Welsh is now becoming- m-O:'2 important every year. In the County Schools of Waies, 5000 pupils were receiving i nstruction in the Welsh language in 1&09; two echoals out of every tWee •thiiwighout I wlhole of Wales, and every echoal in fivw of .W,LI,- counties offered Wei'ili as a subject of exarrsinatkwi. In its amecidod scheme for iutermediate education, Acig'esey has 6et an excellent example for the rest of Wales bv maknig- Welsh a eampu.Vory subject in ell i-ts Ccnuaty :(::hOOs. does not mean 'that, every pup, 1 will be compciled to take Wef-ph, but tiiat tdie school time-table will rvlways provide for instruction in the Welab ^mguiage. Other comities, which are now -amecditag thofr scheoncs, may with c,d- vanta^-e toMow tli's oiamp]:. At the Univer- sity of Wales, the numbers who pa;s»;d in at the d egveo exajrijiation-s advanced &"<>rfl eleven in to 168 in 1910. WELSH LANGUAGE DEVR- OPS INTEL- LIGENOE. It may be -aisk-id: What all this lws to do with the subject of the present pajper? The answer is provided by the fact that H.M. IiL^)ec4ors of Schools report that the uibilisa- of the Wei5h language, when it is tire nu.Llier tcugue, temde to the di^relepinecat oi' guvater ¡ÜlttligJ¡C0, and t.hc speedier ac- quLsi.tion of ihigludi, both of which are of such importainoe to the boy or girl launching out in Jiife. Another proininent fact bacoan- ing datiy more evid-effit i^ that pupils 'who receive a bilingual education make niaarked headway not only in sdhool, but in their subsequent careers. I suliall not, h-o'wever, pursue this aspect of 'UlIe question further this morning, except to advance the proposition that no movement such as. the one whucth I hope to initi- a'ted at this moetioig for helping Wie-Mi boys and giais to find a, suit-'Jole outlet for their ■avl-i vitias in ealn hope for success, un- less it is based upon a love for Walcsi, its people, its language, its history, and its 1 i-teij: atllrfe, on the part of those who act as promoters of the movemesit; and, tl<,lt on utilitarian grotKad.?, nativo .studife must form an esEential pait of ajiy curriculum which aims Gt giving --In effid-eiit trainkig to our WeLah boys and garls for their future career?.. W hen I first suggested the desirability of establishing a. National Employment Bureau for the uso of pupils attending" the Welsh Couaity there had been no public intimation of any intention on the pact of tihe GovernlHBettit authorities to move in a similar direction. £ inoe that virie, how- ever, the question of juvenile employment has attai-ucd a po>rtk>n of considerable pro- m-ifpence. It will be well, therefore, to in- quire what steps have beetn hitherto adopt- ed dn various countries to provide faeiiititsi -for youths to obtain employment on leaving school, and to estimate the val ire of such measures in their boarimg upon the needs of our Wrelah County School pupils. It will be found, I thmk, that no 4ops yet taken, or still madiL&t.-A, in amy eouas-try or by any Govornm/fent Dtapasrteaent -wffl meet our re- quirements. GERMAN METHODS. Germany is often held up tin ether oeun- tnies as a model of edueational pxeltrms. The Geranajts have thoroughly resiiaed w&at wo in We&ea imvia isartiy appreciated, tbat only througJ1 educatioei cam a nation beeoane truly great. The German ratepayer, so far from opmpiaafflimg Of Ms rate, is proud if that crata in his awn toown is Mgfeer than -that in the neighbouring mtmiciparity. T^>ere is Weo much more coopcmatiexa be- tween parents and 'employers m Genaacay with regard to everlmg oout adboois than is fom&d in our country. Geaiaaai par- ents are wghng to keep tibek befys vso&er in- stencfcKm beyond. Uao legal age, and cia.pl oyers allow tfeeiir ecraad. boys to atieasd dagses for their furtkea: instruc- tion "duriiig bosiaees hoars." Expect for tihe Weilsh iaajgaiage and is net the pnedonainant .feature in aajany of our schools -in Wales to-day. But in th« Geirmaii ecibote the pupils ere taught in and out of soasejj. that they imtst love and serve the FàtJl-er- LW,d- This is the poimciple Vhieh I &h-ould like to see animating the minds of thossa de- siffoas oT saeang the estajjlishanc-nt of a Welsh Schools Emplo^imant Bureau. The Bureau should be regarded, not as something- to profit individual boys aud. girls, but as a national eltort to eerro W-aies, and at the sajoct time :to earve the Emprie and the raca. JUVENILE LABOUR IN GERMANY. Thongti Germany recognises to a greater extent iiihaai wo do, tha tact that reapotosi- billitv towards boys and girls does not cease with the end of their el-em-entaxy school, we hasre ndt much to lea-nn for our pur- pofe 1irom the actual working of German Labour ExchaiEs^ges. There is a note orf warning- to educatioiiiirtis, however, dn the m-ais&ar in wiac3i ithe questieai of juvccoile labour is dealt with in tibe Germas Ex- Ttough the newspaper boy ca.nd the child .^tr€»t-tra«<Ler are uiamown in Berlin, and though Lhe telegraph and messenger ser- vices ere performed by men (usually oCX- soJdiers), and iaot by boys, yet there is a large add growkig demand for unskilled,bay labour. It is the being inereasdaigiy recognised that the youthful labour pro- bLem must be attended to" beeauee it is had
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far 'the youth of the Empire to grow up lwkzi tun uncertain future, without a chance of training- sufficient (to develop skill, char- acter, and iatdligcaioe. Still, in Berlin, there is ireither advice inor supervision for tho boys from the Labour Exchangee. They are treated as fnespomeiblo persons, choosing what -they want and capable of making their OWl} barg-ams. All tihat is being done is to centralise the demand of employers for un- skilled boy labour. This amounts to no- thiag- more thani providilng a mare retidy means of (recruiting an already over-tstcciked labour market. Wales must not repeat that fatal error. LABOUR EXCHANGES IN ENGLAND. Although under the Labour Exclianges Act the Board of Trade has power to appoint Advisory Committees "in relation to juvenile applicants for employment," and suggests that such committees 1 should £ igive advice," information, and assistance, to boys amd girls and their parcnt" yet it is expressly provided in tho Act that neither the Board of Trade nor the of&eer in charge of a Labour Exchange, shall undertake any responsi- bility with regard to any adtfice or assistance so given. It has, therefore, no power to investigate the-coxiditiens of employaaent ,,or the character of an oaapieyer, and no right to restrain the children from accepting many of the situations advertised. When passing the Act through Parliament, the President of the Board of Trade said:— "We have no intention whatever of placing upon the Labour Exchanges the prime work of placing yoang people in employment. That must be regarded more from the educational point of view than from the purely industrial point of view." Most Welsbssen will agree that in guiding our boys and girls to careers in life, educational in- terests should predominate over Any purely com- mereial interests. The "Education (Choice of Employment) BUS," j which has passed the House of Commons and wiH in the coming autumn session be farther coo- sidered by the House of Lords, gives powers to, ••certain local authorities "To make arrangements lor giving to boys and girls under 17 years oi age assist- r,cmtain local authorities "To make arrangements lor giving to boys and girls under 17 years oi age assist- a nee with respect to tlie choice of suitable em- ployment, by means of the collection and the, communication of information, for the furnish- ing of advice." In Scotland the School Boards ware some time, ago armed with similar powers. The Secretary^ of the Scottish Education Department, referring to the functions of the school agencies, says:- Such agencies would advise pupils who are oomph-ting their elementary education as to the facilities ia the district and the proper course to follow. They would also inform pupils about to leave school as to the general nature of the opportunities for employment open to them, and would take steps to facilitate tho further educa- tion, at continuation classes, of pupils leaving school at about 14 years of ago, or even later." NO PROVISION FOR SECONDARY SCIIOOLS OR COLLEGES. In all these schemes for dealing with juvenile employment there are two obvious defects-the P 'wyrs are permissive only, and no provision is rn-iie for the youth leaving the Secondary School or for the student leaving college. The conse- quence of the first of these is that only one autV)- rity out of every three in England and Wales b-.M used its powers to make bye-laws for regula- tor the employment of children, and for the re- gulation of street trading by a person under io yefcrs of age The p-ovisions of the new Bill will be of no benefit to the large number of pupils over the aire of 17 in attendance at the Welsh County Schools with whom we are more particularly con- corned. There are no existing provisions to help us, no prL?2G.enc to guide us. n Q have managed our Intermediate Syctfm of Education in Wales in our own way for the past 21 years; let us now as a Welsh nation solve on national lines the fresh j problem which faces us by finding suitable spheres of work worthy of the abilities which we know our Welsh boys and girls to possess, and thus reap the harvest of a quarter of a century's work in the schools for the benefit of Wales and the Em, pire at large. TOO MANY TEACHERS AND PREACHERS. What is the position in Wales to-day? Wc have 96 intermediate schools, with nearly 14.030 pupils, whose education costs well over £200,000 a year. On all sides we are faced with complaints that parents do not know what to do with their children after they have received a. secondary edu- cation. Men in public life, and members of Parlia- ment in particular, have brought to their atten- tion young people who have attained their de- grees, or achieved success in their schools, and who yet do not know how to secure suitable em- ployment in life. Thus one of the greatest and most difficult problems in Wales to-day is that of securing employing after education. It is a common complaint that too many of the boys educated in the County Schools become teachers and preachers with the exclusion of other pro- fessions and occupations. The first thought of the student of the Uni- versity of Wales who has obtained his degree is, I am told, to look for a post as a teacher—gene- rally in tlie county school. This cannot be on account of the desirable nature of the prospects afforded by the intermediate schools. Vacancies in these schools are now advertisoo at a com- mencing salary of JES5 a year, and we know of a hundred to a hundred and fifty applications sent in for posts as assistants in Welsh County Schools with a commencing salary of £100 to £120. On the Continent the minimum commencing salaries of assistant masters in soc-ondary schools are, as a rule, not below B150 a year; and in Germany, France, Scandinavia, and the United States, in- creases in salaries take place aatoraJcaily until a maximum of B500 or £400 a year is often reached after about 21 years' service. In Wales to-day, 21 years after the passing of the Welsh Inter- mediate Education Act, the average salary paid to assistant masters is £142, and to assistant mis- tresses CI16--severii peunds below the commenc- ing salary paid in continental countries. CIVIL SERVICE POSSIBILITIES. It is surprising to think that County School teaching has such an attraction for so maaw Wefahwen when it is remembered that manv poets in the Civil Service, for which the Ivaiifi cations are much lower than those possessed by tlie roajority of County School teachers, osBuaand a mlar,7 rising to £300. and a pension, with pros peats of promotion to a higher scale. The estab- lishment of the proposed bureau and the co-opera- tion of the committee lately appointed through the Instrumentality of Sir Herbert Roberts, charged with the responsibility of commtinJ information from the Civil Service Ckjcamis- fioners as to appointments in the Civil Service it he me and abroad, together with the necessary information as to cxatrwnaiions, vacancies, etc.j win, I hope, be the means of bringing heme to Welshmen the possibilities for a well-educated nation of the important avenues of service and of distinction which the Civil Service affords. I trust also that the committee will press forward the claims of the Welsh language in Cwil Ser- vice examinations and for the establishment of examination centres in convenient parts of Wales. Tho best teachers share with parents the duty ol being trustees for the children. The condi- tions of their service should be such that the most gifted Welshmen would find it worth their while to spend their lives in the County Schools and to make the study of Welsb: educational prob- lems their life's work. The best headmaster is more or less helpless unless he is supported by a capable and enthusiastic staff of assistants; and birdB of passage, who take posts for a short time at the County Schools, only to flit elsewhere at the first favourable opportunity, cannot ba ex- pected to concern themselves much with our spe- cial educational needs in WaiGS- > Neither can elementary school teaching wMch attracts so many of our Welsh County School pupils be considered to offer very alluring pros- jxBets. There is an over supply, with the result that many certificated teachers have to Fpt paste as uacertifieatfld tcachefs at a maximum salary of £60 a year. m # Recent puWio dtscar-sonei on miatsbenal sti- peuds shew the positkwi, of the to be oven worse than- that of the teaobcr. If these two callings, with ail to-ry conditions attached to them, ±rem the aUsy natural av-ea«Cs of ensgteymonx for the beat pro- chKJtjs of our-County Schools axd Universe fcy Got- leges, it is lavidellt ascoo immediate steps ShOUld be taken to find other more productive Gpemnga for the purpose of -utdisaiig' for the benefit^ of the OGzrtmunity at large, the inwnen,=e anaouiEt. of raw material which is at prw-,mt being iargety wasted. „ „ WELSH INTERMEDIATE SCBOOLb ESSENTIALLY DEMOCRATIC Out of 13,760 pupila in the Welsh County Schools during the year 1908-9, 11,735. or over 65 per cent, cauic from public elementary schools. In Wales as in Germany, there exists no litarong barriers betweaa ekaaentary and secondary schools. In England, on the other hand, in spite of manful efforts to-sweep them a.wa.y, tiiese ba.r- riaijs stifi remain. But the Vielsh Intermediate Sokoofe a;re easeaitiasGy the sc-hoois of the people. Any organised means to direct tho pupils of these schools into good openings in life would1 not therefore cULVotiir in any way of clUffi prejudice. It is the general inexperienoe and want of know- ledge of fife's possibilities on the part of the clas.j of pa.rentri whose children attend the Welsh County SohooJs which makes tho cstahilsirin-ent of an empkryment and advisory biarearu a matter of such special necessity in Wales. A CENTRE ADVISORY COUNCIL. How can such a bureau be established ? The strain of administration upon the Central Weifeh Boand is already too great to permit of. r bur- dening that body with the duty of giving tho ineseseary advice and assistanae to the pupils leaving its schools. A few county eahooimaBters do undertake that duty, but generally speaking their time ia so fuSy ocewpiod in trying to pkskie the Central Wolah Beaard, and there-by I afraid diepleffliag tbb Boe,d of FAkioatioLup that mash canaofc be expected1 f,im iacferiduai efforts of thijj kind. These sporadic (,Amts sheukl be superseded by an uniform and well organised- •E/at-ural system. Otherwise there wiH be a tenssiaaey for agencies to be duplicated, or to overisup, thus involving needless expenditure of tirae sad money, bolides rnterfering with the efficiency of the work. I would therefore uug- gest as a first step the formation of a. Central Advisory Council, in which the educational ele- ment would predominate, but which at the game time would- ineJude a. good representation of Web-h buainesis men in ciose touch with the Lateur Exch&iige(> and the comxwercial world, all of whoso. I hope, imbued with tho patriotic de- sire to bmJg Wales to the front in the Empire andjaEXioas to-oSifet for the ioo of the Empire at "hegcae and abroad ali the gploudid matarial no-w munvdd in the Welsh County Suoh an Advisory C&tmcil might be made up oh such linæ aB foJiowsc— (a) The chairman, of each County and Borsngh Edacatiwn Authority in Wales, -d M<^H»QB £ b!^iire. (b) Welsh County Schools Association (2 Headmasters and one Headmistress^). (cj CemtmJ Wefeh Boand (2 representa- tives). í Wm Department of the Board of Eduoatkm (2 roprtiv. W-clsh University CoS-ages (3 ropm- ooo fromjûach Oo. (f) CSvfl Service (2 titi (g, Board of Trade (2 representatives from Labour Exohangeu in Waiesi). (h) Basineas and C..i)ramercial Men (6 re- pi»6sentativ-ee oo.-outed by the above). Sooh a. body wvuid. conunand- the confidence of all seotk>DB—edijcation authorities, teachers, paxeots, and employers. Its fuuctionl3 would be to prepare a proper deed of trust or oonstitution oontainnig all such provisions as the Advisory Council shou~d iliink appropriate for the further- ance of the scheme for oolbeeting information, giving advice, for securing empioynsent, mtd to generally siiq>ervM& and direct the policy of the proposed bureau. COST AND DUTIES OF THE BUREAU. The bureau might be staffed with say, a di- rector, a isecretary, a clerk, ai*t an cpLut)D boy, at a ocr3t of £ 700 a year. Add JB150 for travel- ling expeit&efc, £ 50 for rent, making £ 900. The printing bill and cost of oorrespoiMlenee wouEd neceasamr> be very heavy, and provision should ba made w pay Ute travailing expenses in cer- tain caäC.3, ol -pupils (seeking i-nterviews with pro&- pective ers. The combined: expanses un- der these rhr-ee heads I osfciiwato at JCllOO a year, niifckirig a total expendvtuae for the bureau of £ 2000. '■line bureau woukl be the central organisation to which ail lk-1IJ.a'!tde. from enapioyers, and all informatKHi cainceming tlie quaiificiwiiona and training of County Sahooi pupils and University College .students seeking employment would come, and from which aSi tb, infocmation oon- eeruing the prospects and require-meaois of various trades, bustnehs, airi pTofeesions would be circu- lated to the schools. It would get into ocan- njunJcalioii with aU aaeocialicms of tirades and other commercial enterprises, Dock BcardE,
MR EVAN'S PAPER.
Chambers of Comiiierce, railway coiiipanieii. shipfiig oftioea, batrkj, and practically every conoern that is eoiid.'uctod on a large scale and iniorm »iiiooima«tieffe of what all tiieee want from the schools. The director of the bureau would interview pcr.iO-iiaJ.ly and oobst the of as m-any VVaishjnen as jxjeaibki who aire at the hand of important trading amd mariufacturing concerns in ,Lo.OOOLl, Li:v-e1i:'pO¡),1, Manchester, and ether large towns in Engiiud and Wales with the view of geouring suitable emp^bymexit for the boys and gir ia the County Scbooie and the students at Cardiff, Bangor, and Aberystwyth. He wouid also get into touch with prospercuis Welshmen abroad and in the Colonies, with the same end in view. Sir Vinocrrt Evans, speaking at New borough a i-hcrt time ago at a rcoept-ion given to Sir Pricha-rd Jomes, said that the spirit of love of country animat-ed London WeMime-n in a greater degree than in any other part uf the country. T.ix- .iterations cf the bureaiu and the reception given by Jjandon Wetstrmen to its director would put their patriotism to the test. The Bureau wotaJkl convey information to the Sdhools and Uxsivciyit-y Colleges of all ap- proaching examinations which might result in the scouring of suitable outlets for Welsh youths. A "parents day" dhould be instituted at each County School once every year when tho Diree- itor of the Boireiaiu would atietnd a.d deliver a-n. addrew. to the paresnts, ohildiren, and teachers on desirable occupations and their prospects, and whm he would be at their service for personal coneukation. His expetrience will speedily make him a. specialist in careers, ana :to will be in possession of iniarmatioa. dealing with the now aveiBues of employment which are constantly opening up W'Ï>th the march of progress and adience, The common ground of interest be- tween: parents and teachers should be the well are of thee, boys and girls, and am opportunity would est these ooeja«csns, be given to pareEris of discus- sing tho edweafcon audi futazra of their children with thosa who share the joinit resposasdbilaty. In 1i1Í9 way, the oo-opera&ioa befcweem parents and teaeheas, m order ftihat the ends of ediueation, apart feom actuai sohoohng, might sarva the would-be secunad. In Additaon to tJtis, the Dareasi wowd be at the servim of any paremt or teacher wbemever ncoosaaay. In oixUer to facilitate the workkw of the Bureau, I would suggest that eaon child on em- fjaring County School ahould, aiter ocxnsulfcing his paseat, fill a. card specifying hie own choice of oooupatkm and: other neoassary partioulacs. rl nood not of BeDesasty be a final choice, but it would express the child's natural leanings, alA the ireaudmaster, after ocanaultatLon with his. assistant teadhers, wouki be able to say at the eetd of a yesur or at nsoet two years, whotlier the chaw had a natural apt-tads lor fibs work and- whether iso siood a fair chaebce of being- abie to quahdy for Jhis ohcwam vacat-km. If his first choice should torn out am unscritablo one, then the pupil wouidl ba advised to prepare far another caliang for which he would bo mare filled. The Bureau would in this way 00 prepared well in adtaaxtao and woukl koow exactly in which ddi-ocfaaa to soak fcrr the req-uired1 open- in ga. The tyocaimulatea iriorrnaikm as to the ocetmafexms whicih pupils desire to enter would be ornse to the School Governors and! Education Authorities in arranging as to the courses aad subjeots of instruction most useful for any par- teouiar district. It would also. be of help to the Central Welsh. Board in drafting their examirta- tksn syllabus and 'Lo a.U oanoerned with the dif- fe«3nit;iat.kai, of schools. Notwithstanding cortaidorable improvement it is still nxogriiseii kl;iiat far too largo a propor- ticot of pupils leave 'withorui competing even thrar FJeoortd: or thirdi years' of regular atten- Tlie rewulie obtainable from les3 thau fJrroe year,3, cccntizHueus instruction at a County School are comparatively of little vaiue. I would, ftihezietfore, eaggest that the Bureau shoicJdi only be allcwved to fLid cmpktment for tlapee who 'have beetct Cbunty School pupils for a rarHKmaa pearled, oi three years. TOO idcsj: to ba attained, I -fijaok, is thai the pupJs shouki leave the elersoxtajy ooa-ools far the County Schools at th9 age of 12. The iasttruotkan for the first three yeaas at a Count-y Sdhael, that is to say, until <the dhild is 15 \»?a,-s of age, and has passed the J octior Certificalc Ex animation of the Central WOO::1:r1 Board, vvtnild bo the same for all pupIls. After t, speaial work in preparatioa. for ern- ployHimt aniiglit be undertaken by those desirous of entering1 the fowsr gradies of business and oomiaeree, wiiiie those whose ambitioos and abiiiiaej weafe of higher ajcftdieifpa ordei- would follow the ordinary secondary school course for a loo-er period. In ardbr to enomrage parents to exceed the mizrismm qualifying period of three Y-re instruction at a County School for their children, I would suggest that a bsxrearship of £ 10 sSsotild: be oRepcd to cacth pupil for every yeaa* ho reamins in attendaaiee beyondl the mini- mum-period of tSfcree years. COUNTY SCHOOLS TO BE ACAJDiEMIOAL AND PRACTICAL. It i3 frequently urged! that tiio Welsh County Schools are to academicai and! marely nurseries for the Uiaivaisi+ies. I am nofc quite sure whether those, who make these charges are in all oases awaits of the extent to which? what are called' practical subjects are taught. But it is well to reuiciiiber that the Intormediata Schools of Wales were primarily intended: by their found-ars to supply ediucation kctca-mediaiei be- tween that of the elementary school and thait of the Universities. At leasr; 65 per cent, of the studietnte at our Uniiversity Colloges 1a.s.t session bad been through the County Schools. These schools are thus serving their original purpose in this direction and I hope that what- ever is dome to give a more specrialisedl and prac- tical course of inatruetLoci to the! boys and girls will not bo allowed; to disturb in any way the full and legitimate cowrse of secondary education now provided. We must retain -Ehe ideals of the pionoers of the Welsh Intermediate System, and maintain the character of tlie schools as tha best of bridgtee between the elementary schools arid the Universitiesj and tlrus make it possible for the powrest boya in every district to acquire to Cabinet Mmistersfljaps, judlgedhips and all other disffiiastioais thai .wiaetimos follow. What is wonted is to raak-e the schools of more all rouad value; to die-vekm side by side with existing de- parfcmcaits other qje-^iail courses of study arranged n to suit è.;JiQ needs, of pupil-s intended for different callings. We wiacii to mako our County Schools pactical as well as academical, so t'tiat they may not only bridge the guS betv,ee2i the el em an- tary schools and the Universities, but aLso between the elemenU.ry echcol and life in all its departments. If we are agreed that an uniform threa years' course for all pupils between, the agesi of 12 n and! 15 at a County School in order to ensure that their iaielligence should be fully developed, is the be&fc fofunda-tion for future suc- cess set life of any department, then. I would respectfully maiiatain thai tho y com- mercial, teohoical, agricultural, civil service, or any other J:iaa could be given in any district by the additbn-of just one specialist to the existing f"IT of ea-dh Cck-Iy S&oL. Tlie problem would -m1¡ boooorte a purcly financial one. Where is the maaey to oome L-om is, after all, the supreme, teefc of any acheoae. The income of our 9& Ceuni-y Sahools from public lasit year a to over £ 141,000. If we add to this an avarage school fee of £ 5 for each of the 13,7tt) pajpila, we arrive at a. sum well over £ 200,000 as,the amcu-lt, W. juesant spemt annually Uili= the education of the boys and girig in Wefcfli witeme^iste sdhwb, Ihe sum which I /*• have estimated as neresaary for the purposes of the Bureau is £ 2r€KX), or less than one par oent. of the money spent on working the schools. Money spent ia equipping boys Had girls for tioo art of life is conceded to be reproduc- tive eocpoetn-d.í, and it would be a poor business man who would not spend 1 per cent. in finding a market ire his ware a,;id I am anxious that the Bureau should not be- regarded as some new form of charity, and that it c. should do nothing to sacrifice the personal independence of character of parcrot or child. It is often urged that mea- sures designed to benefit the children irres}x;euiv0 of their parents tend to "pauperise" the elder generation, aaid that it is not good that, persona should rerxsive benefits from the community with- out proposing to offer anything in return. I i-utaerefore propose* to make tihe parents the main- contr.'buting iactor to the schema. I would sug- gest that each pupil in atiijemiacnee should con- tribute 6d per term, or Is 6d a year, towards the expensea-of ithe Bureau during the time ne is in attendanoe at a County School. On the basis of preseart utten-damm tleis would pr)dlice about 21,000 a year. By the time the child had been in atteiadanca for 3 years, and when the Bureau- would be at his service, the parent would have paid 4s 6d, which might be regarded as a cheap rate of employsBjeafc jisuranc >. when we take inio acwuBt the vast ibiities which the Bureau wøudd opesi out for the c1h.:1d. The Board1 of Education have ia tho past sanction the pa.Y1 mailt of Is per tesrm, (X LWlce the amount wtllan I am now proposing, for games and library e» pemx-.s in r-espoct. oi eacii pupil in attemdaoce 1m the secondary schools, and the iaserticai of o» sentence in tfee regulations lor aeooaadary sohoob itsguod by tho W cl. Department of the Board: of Ed&anafcaosn. woukl ciaaSe fee Clerk of Governors of each County School to collect dU% 6d per term with tea foes and to forward Wi) 'total in one sum to thse Burean each term- if would bo reasonable that the Treasury should be asked to contribute aa amount equal to at icast one half the amouaii oeaitribuied by the pait-nw- thiie would bring in £ 500, and would be a very, small sum to e-xpoct from, the ChanoaQctr of tlie Exchequer in view of tíhe substantial increase ia Excbequor returns jugfc now. Too University ot Walee seem to have abeuadoned their intention of establishiiig a. B-uraau for University s-ructm" The present proposal w-oulcl moot their require- ments. I have talready directed attention to the iaot that two-thirds of the studtents at CardSifi, BaiBgo-r and x\beaystwyih aire old County School pupils. These would have the use of the Bureau Ei virtue of the payments made by them wneIL they were pupife at the Coucf-iy Sobools. -rho remaining one-tOiipd could aJbo benefit from the Bureau and for this privilege 1 would a&k for a oottrtributioii of E-50 a year from each of the Uiaavwrsiuy CoSeges. nis would produce anothsir £ 150 and wooidi bring the total to £1.650, thus lea ving a. flam of £35() only to be providied by the County and Borough Education Au^diccnties ki Wa.J.æ, or an average of about £ 25 each. The Board of Trade might later he asked to contribute, soeiietihing towards the scheme, but for the p-ressarfj, I think, iNv,- ahoald be satisfied with, their co-operation and with the assistance they oouki give us iJhwmgh tho Labour Excliango officsals cAa the Central Advisory Cousor oil of tho Baireau. THE WORLD FOR THE WELSH Whatever oritimay bo inspired by thia odwqn4 it must ba adsaisted tlbat SOIIle solution of tlie difficulty is needed, and that immediatc?- ly. Every gocd WefcskrnajQ will desire to roaiaml for the staias all the potemiaJities of tlie boya and girls who after a course of secondary ed a- estion in the Gouoty Schools wml ba made bet- beir and locee &Mcimt artizsesns. «The discovery o«f nafcoral talent in whatever rank of it masy appear. its fTm amd umieuvred, deveiop- mtait to the highest ed-uaattoc-al leTOi which it is capable of afeaiaing', anci its t in the service of the nation, andi oif the race," is an ideal worth, striving for. A ciy thing whicli we can do to realise thia ideal will exalt us as a. naiaoii. WaIab. toys and gins are wacting neither m braina ffror in appli- catafln, and a natienal ac^d weli-organised scheme to give thesn am opperbuaity csf proving' their qualiK<os would QQSSFStoae tho sceptics t^tna± oven the "destructive Celt" has idioatj aaid adminietra fci ve ab^cties of a *hagh older. Our watch-word shouid not "Walm for the Welsh," but "The World Lor the Welsh." A WEUS+i-EWCLiSH EDUCATIONIST'S VIEWS, Mr Edward T. John, of ugh, Tejs, in optatttjg discusaoo, aaid he wae one of tboae ajecpoiaaHiEi. for i2ie eduoiriaosa of 20,000 chdkircn a,t the Soo-sido town from which be canae aavl the iaat Aity he had to perform be- fore ieeving for haa Aiuasal vacation: waa to take partin cotasitutuig a cecainittee for looking after the subsequent- eoapioyaauejst of boys In the cie- meaitacy aoboab. The ocanmitSee w«a«d. oon- ioi, in the main of r^HeseutittiYeQ of the educa- tion aiitiionty, and utilising the Laixxur Ex- change for its inXonnation. aa to too requiremcnia for juveaiile iabeur. He weut to the North forty yvaim ago wiwin. tho iron and steel' trade theca was very largely in. chaigo of WoUmenL The two laagest concerns were captained by two CX- oetd.tngiy able m«n from South. Wake, and; he aiao f&u-od that the non-oommitKiarsed! cfficerB of commerce in that pa rticuki.r district were largely WeMi, who ,díf!Cl¡,;¡rg¡ed' their duty admirably. Ncrtwithstanding the great advance in the odu- cational m of Waies sanos them the position to-day WÙ1i iltai were two or three young men ioiloaing atinnrabiy in the foocKtej-e of their more giftedi powerful and. graoedoi' fore- fathers, but the proportion of Weill peqple in cliarge of the great iron and steel industry of the North to-day was very much Jess than it waa forty ,3. ago. That, he submitted, was not at all a satisfactory cuteom-e of the very great labours and the very great enthusiasm, and patriotism which hid been directed to the do- velopment of education in Wales. He hoped the suggestion made in -the paper wouid, be referred to 00 the Council of the Cya iunivxlorioni Society. Until a Weish National -O&cencti wag eetahliahed he knew of no bodv more fitted to do all the various duties required to be done for Walea tha.n the Council of tjie Cymmrodarkm Society, which was an exceedingly useful! maid-of-au wca-k., in these matters, and Sir Vincent Ey;.¡, made a very exeeiSeat secretary for home ailaira (laLighter). The ^eaker urged that the cduca- tHJll in. Welsh Cc-uniy B-c-ll should not be too acadamical, and remarked L4i4t he believed that the unrest in Indiia wag vciy largely the result of the iinglLah system of education there. Tns educated Ilindocs wen" of little use to those who were more or ices interested in the oommerciat developiaent of India; and be rather dreaded a similar condition of things arising in Wajea (hear, hear). He urged that Wssh education ga>e a vory much larger place to theiscientifi^, technical and particularly the commercial side ot life fappiauie). On tlie north-east coaat the ii-oh and steel trade wae the creation of Welshmen, and the same might bo said of Russia and the U nited States tu a. largo extent. Ho hoped the national orgai?isie Lions of Wales would not consider the care anti development of the commercial possibilities of the country as beyond their scope. Dirnn-igua m, Manchester, and Liverpool had their faculties of education, and he did not know that there was anything oi the kind in connection with tho University of Waies, though in the powerful and wealthy district connected particularly with tha Cardiff University College such a faculty would be of .the greatest possible use. He was satisfied that tho capacity of the Welsh people was ex- ceedingly versatile, and there was in every direc- tion the greatest encouragement for the young (applause). The Chairman suggested that a resolution bo proposed to the effcct that tho paper read by Mr Evans should be referred to the Council of the Cymmrodorion with an earnest request that if. after they had further considered the sugges- tions made, they found it practical thev should CALL A CONFERENCE" in some central place in Wales for the purpose of discussing the question, and bringing about somo practical issue to the movement. Mr Ed. T. John moved that that be done. Mr Thomas Matthews, M.A., who seconded, said there was no question, but that the Welsh County School instruction was too academic. A training given properly in English and Welsh would very nearly approach a training in Greek, and was certainly equal to a training iu Latin. He congratulated Mr upon his wise deci- sion to include the University Colleges in tho scheme. Mr John's suggestion concerning a commercial faculty in the Welsh Universities was also an excellent one. As there were some County School headmasters present they would agree with him that the present system of ap- pointing teachers was unfair. No teacher could at present obtain an appointment without pay- ing about 15 per cent, commission to his London agent, a state of affairs which was a great in- justice to a public school (applause). He hoped the time would ..come when under the regulations of the Board of Education it would be impos- sible for any teacher to secure an appointment according to that method which, he thought ap- proached corruption (hear, hear.). He strongly supported Mr Evans's views. Mr Hancock apd Mr R. B. Searell, Llanrhaiadl^ continued tho discussion. ^OojvtJ-njied on 7th. pago.) J