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LLANDUDNO URBAN DISTRICT COUNCIL.

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LLANDUDNO URBAN DISTRICT COUNCIL. EXPENSIVE SCHEMES CONTEMPLATED. LOANS FOR OVER £10,000 TO BE APPLIED FOR. PROTECTION OF STREET TREES. In the abetauto of Mr E. E. Bone (the chair- man) who wrote- expressing regret at his inabili- ty to attend, the ex-chairman. (Mr J. McMaster) p resided over tibo monthly meeting of this autho- rity on Friday. There were -o present:— Messrn S. Chantrey, W. H. JoVuea, T. W. Grif- fith, A. E. Vol lam, H. Ixhvards*, Pie-roo Jones, Wm. Thoaias M. Davies, F. J. Sarson, R. Ro- berts. \». w-tn the Clerk (Mr Co.ol y), th j .As Ktant Clerk (Mr Lcngshaw), the ^•cvouiaiant (Mr Wood), (tie Engineer (Mr t'&z&y b.ephunson;, the Jiloctrical Jilngineer plr liaroid Morton), and the Gas ^Manager (Mr Shadoolt). A HOTEL VERANDAH. With regard to an awning placeo at the end of <1. voraiiidiih iUlt the Marine tl-otel, concerning •v.h»ch there was a cisouiwion at Wie pnlDUS Council meeting, the WorK.i (Jomnntxee re ported that they h-ai g'iven inutrucaons that a iinal notice be ixirvea upon Mr Gaunbhstt to remove tho awning, the Cwrk Lo take legal proceedings in the eveirb of non compliance with the order. Air it. Roberts now inquired what i^d been subeequently done in the mother. 'i he Cleric: Perhaps this matter may be al- lowed to stand over, i wall brntg it up before the It meeungi of the Works Uoinmttce. Mr Roberts iepiod, that the season was slip- ping through, ana the house affected was a lodging ihousj it was important that no time be "Wasted m removing- tho a'.vning if it was to be r,en)ovod at all. Let the work be done with the best grace possible (hear, hear). Mr Chantrey: Mr Roberts may rest assured that- what can be done is being done, but it is llOt the WWI of the comrruitee to rush into legal .^spense to obtain satisfaction if it can be avoideij. Mr T. W. Griffith warned 'the committee to be V"-r.Y guarded' m their action, because there was 41-ther instance who to oonaent bad, boo, &n.ned with respect to property on the Pro- nieiiacie though the two caecs were not quite on a par. Mr W. O. Williams proposed that the minute be TO amended that the Clerk should take legal fcction I I ii" The Clerk remarked that it was ahv-ays under- 11-o was 3iDt t,,r, a,?A un?--&s 1:,& was satistied th-c-re wa6 oau&e f-or a,?ti<),n. All, P' me Jouw ,;iLd ho uaa-"or.toc)d that when tlbe plal' i came bei,>ro the C?oancil iio o.Twn .able at all was shown—only an open space. He vr°uyht tho minute should be allowed to stand th-at was the case. On a di vision, Mr Williams' amendment was r6 lila Clerk: Then I take it I am to take legal ill any eral me-mb,?,,z-s tliat Mr C,.urolly id act :Lii tlat oa& as lio- li??d done in: other us,.ng his ov,-ni 11. ,-0 WAJITNG-ROOM AS SHOP. The Works Conxmittoo reported! thai) the tem- porary premises used for a waiting-room by the r^tor and Garage Co. weui baing used as a shop the sale of motor-car accessories* and that •ey had instructed the Surveyor to give the fapany notice to delist from using the pre- sses for trading purposes. At a subsequent meeting of the commit toe, it. ?? -,t-at.?--d thtt compamy ba-cl w-rttf-'n inquir- big NN,.hat obj,2,3,ioii th.- coiqiiilLtK?o liad W the ?'r4eltio3, but it was ?ic,idt-d, to r(-.p?y sayin,,=?, the ied n<)tl 'ng further to ad-d, bu4? to r?l?t requo3tu A,'r a-jk-cd ivii-eth, fL,,e Stir-?-y- C,r ?,oin- to 'Lnsi's: ul>ri -?c)zzipL,n<3e t??c, ?o noticed- that tji-o %vla'ltin-g- rt?oul s-,iil coil-taiwd a disxlay cd itrticjes for Tila i?lerk r-er.?!?c,,i, that h-e was in td'a" Nvl,'h the coii)pamy, and th-o uiatter iT,-o-,dd be br"u ,,ht befort? tlle oo.,rimittc,.o at t:n caleeting. (,-ir next SliELTER PAI-NTING CONTRACT. The S-urreyor reported that the painting of ^va'iJS sdelDci's was cft'mated a.t £ 40, the actual cost waa £ 62 Gs 7d. Mr Pjeroe Jones a-.kod what the contract price ^f-'h oa'r'> ^S0- Ch aii man: Whatever it was the work I10w;a,e'v'er been carried1 out in the same way as v Purveyor said the contract price two <?arf ago waa £ 38 lis 9d, but it was the quality ij. work dKxr;e tihit nude ihe difference. ere was no question at all but tJiat the present ^k would last at l.ea^tj three years. Chairman said he claimed to know some- about painting, and he was well eatisfiod V h tihe value the Ooomcil were obtaining under present contract. W- Tleoinas: Surely, the Surveyor would i it was proiperly done two years ago before granted his oertiGcate. T'he ChaiTnian: But you can make pa?nting ell thl'Ug'll it W(YTL'? laA -six na?u-?ths, Nvliilo if differc, nt materials are ilied t.,Io Nvork is, of qo'ur??c, iriudh nior-o r 11. 1,awarcis sa?.cl, t?bat tlioii,h the %vcric more '-I-.ere iras i;o d<>ubt but that it better dore. LEVEL CROSSING BRIDGE. A letter was read frorti th-e RaiiNvay Clomp=y that approximate oost of providing th-- h?)vel ercfsi,n, ard al)p-?x>c-lie3 -do wus L3300, and th,& est'analted of ipt,u%-i,iin g ,footbridge 2220. 11, a furtli-r k-tt,,r tl-,o com!-ALny stated they 0041d 'lot gee t?i-ei ir -y to oo-istxuct a brid,D for e'?,i-ular t-r?ifhc, but if the C,?ounc;l offeredi PO-Y' tibe CoGt uf tlio work (lesa ti-o Lula" Cow, of the footbridge as proposed b?v etah,? oom- tl?e matta--r would be carefully oonsi<kmd. (?ouncil dled not to Prooood in the fliatt-?--r furt?-er, beuo'tdto roqumt the coml),ary to a footb-idge. LADY FORESTER'S iiCME. iho Surveyor reminded^ the Council of the st ations that took plaoe some time, ago in iTo *1j>have the drains of the Lady itof ? and he sugge;te-d' that tha Council ife'nt now be disposed to re-open negotiations. *•' was decided to again write to the Trustees t^e lie me in tiie matter. ( CONSIDERABLE LOANS. i-io Works Committed reported having under wia-sration "tlllt 1Krtioll of the Surveror's Poit on rhe IJandu-dno sewerage wh.tii relates tho outfalls and surface water sowers on the r^vvay shore and tip to the agricultural diteslv," rf^1, that the Surveyor "was instructed to pro- With the preparation of plans, saciiors and drawings, in order that application may made to the Local Government Board for a so that the work may be started in Octo- l>r nest." Tho work indudod in the reoommendation is tai r vs:—^6-inch diameter outfail, a main da water drain flOKI !«>w outfall to Gloil- ^Wi-strect old surface water outfall, and a • ,ln surface water dra:n from Gloddaetii-street JJ outiail to the agricultural ditcli. tin'11 °r<^er tl;at complete plans and specifica- may be prepared with as little delav as the Surveyor v. as authorised bv the ^iamtteo to engago tlie services of his assist- in the evenings, and to pay them for the vertune worked. The nnpu to agreed to Cha-t-Y t?-I moved t-hu-t ?,1,i,Icat),Dn be tD tlll Local Board for oo-'Ob?On to borrow for ti.?e %v-ork, Tbia -duly secxx?. blr W. 0. V?IIIA?a.IIIS Saiti The --N-as rvt Pria,,d t,o spend all tjia? MaUeY WitilO?Ut kn4L)xvinic soin(,- ta)in" trior<) about it' Wlxui the iniiiuto oarr,,i Lhe C-our)-c" be biti r!o id--?a titit I;asLzirlg '%VOUW :,nv-olvo'?O 1-90 all exp--udi-t-ure. The 6--I)enchtur,3 iijl,?ht I)t? necessm.-y, but he wanted t,O L', in a. lyo&,tien to explai-A to b'- COristitL"nts ,V,ilat it -SPent UPOII; the miirnittk?o "lavo th'o'-rl illsuUik?Olit inforillation on that PO''t.. ),I r D'Davl'er, -i-d Mr Will-ia.-Is ,121QIAI Pk- a! vop un ti SeLe Of !o r,- LIS to s'?udy the Ny?wio Allyle. r it. Roberts: When the matter came blifore OriginAy we were told ti?c' coniiiitte,- should tic 6. 'at with it first, and that the question would be t??tu-'sed wholi it caine bael, from the coinzn*t- 'iau who han-c the control of the C,), tho Works Committee-(laugh!,or)—should see that thit promiae is carried out. I don't want tO lunder the work, but I don't want the Ccun- cll to net before we have an opportunity of dis- cussinrr the scheme in detail. Tho Clerk pointed out that the Council h.^d ready adopted that paragraph in the cominit- n*u r0P01' deciding to proceed with tho work. C-»iairman added that that was merely Part of the original scheme which had boen bo- toro the Council for some months. The who;o !i:>g had been debated moro or less several wmes. Of course, they rotrd postpone it by vot- against the application suggested. Mr Pierce Jones SJid Mr R. Roberts was quile Correct because Mr Roberta had been given an undertaking from the Chairman of the Counril r that before the scheme went through an oppor- tunity would be given the Council of discussing it in detail. There would be no harm in delay- ing the application two or three days, and lIe moved that the matter bo referred to a meeting of the Council in committee, with power to act, so that full opportunity could be given to discuss it. Mr W. 0. Williams said ho would accept air Jones' suggestion, which was thereupon agreed to. DAMAGED STREET TREES. The Works Committee reported that the clerk had been instructed to take legal proceedings against a certain person on account of damage done to a street tree belonging to the Council. Mr Chantrey explained that that step had been taken because trees in various parts of the town were badly damaged from time to time. In that I _,o had been done b a hors,! instatice the damag y carelessly left by the man to do as it liked. Drivers frequently pulled up their horses under trees, and leit them to maul the foliage and the branches unchecked. The tree in question had been so badly damaged that the committee de- ided to ? 'gli'?Nirav (hear, ',icar). c ct stral The Chairman said the summons had been al- ready delivered, and the man referred to and two or three others would appear at the next magis- trates' court. Mr T. W. Griffith said it was very premature to institute legal proceedings before the step was sanctioned by the Council. The case in question appeared to him—he did not know the facts-to be very trivial, and a word of caution seemed to be all that was necessary. They generally cau- tioned every defaulter, but the committee had apparently gone headlong into an action against a poor working man, who earned probably 18s or 20s per week. H:, questioned the legality of the committee's action. The Chairman: For many years we have re- ceived complaints about damage committed in tins way by horses left without supervision. It is all right to talk about harshness to poor work- ing men, but let us not forget that we have a duty to do to the ratepayers in general. We have spent some hundreds of pounds upon trees, etc., to beautify our streets, and they should be adequately protected from damage (hear, hear). Mr W. 0. Williams said that if the Council placed wire-netting round all the trees there would be no complaints. He moved that the action be withdrawn, and that notices be sent out warning people that they would prosecute in future. Mr D. Davies remarked that that would be of no use, as there were notices to that effect on almost every tree at present. If it was worth the Council's while to plant the trees it was worth while taking action against individuals who did not care a rap whether the trees grow or not. Mr W. H. Jones agreed, and added that one prosecution would prove more efficacious than a cartload of notices. By nine votes to fdur it was eventually de- cided to approve the committee's action. WEST SHORE IMPROVEMENT. The committee recommended the adoption if Messrs Evan Hughes and Son's tender at €929 for the erection of public lavatories on the West Shore. The total cost was estimated at S1053 12s 6d, but as the Council had S316 already in hand for the work. Only £718 would be wanted to meet the account. Mr R. Roberts said he protested against that sort of procedure. They could not possibly got the lavatories ready for this season, and the Jom- mittee should surely give the Council an oppor- tunity to consider the scheme proposed. People talked about signing blank cheques, and it wes a very serious thing to sign a blank cheque f'r £7000, as was suggested by the committee. They were becoming more and more unconstitutional every month, and it was time they improved upon their present business methods. Mr T. W. Gritnth agreed, and argued that that was surely a matter of sufficient importance to be referred to the Council in committee. Some members were that day in a mood to dfwl with thousands of pounds aa though they wc re so many hundreds. They had been already ashed to sanction the expenditure of £ 8000, and now they were asked to allow the spending of a fur- ther JE1003 without reasonable consideration. He did not know what the ratepayers of Llandudno would think about it in view of the expenditure on other schemes looming in the distance. Mr W. H. Jones said they were repeatedly tolc! that the Works Committee were not acting in good time, and now that the committee tried to proceed with that scheme in sufficient time to have the work carried out by next season they were again criticised. There had been abundant chances to consider the scheme. Mr R. Roberts was with the committee when they went down to see the site, and his recommendation then had had as much weight in determining the committee's action as that of anyone else. The scheme had been before the Council and ti < committee for a long time, and there was nothing new about the committee's proposals. If those ,,s were to be prov-ided for the (,ra,igyl-)n thing district there would be no objection whatever to them (cries of "Withdraw" and "Order"). No, said the speaker, I won't withdraw (cries of "Withdraw"). There is no doubt about it. Every facility would be given to carry them out at Craigydon, but all Borti( of objections are raised because they are for the West Shore. Mr Sarson remarked that the plans wore not signed by any member outside the committee. Mr Wm. Thomas said the Council had decided upon the site for lavatories. It appeared to hiin as though there were a serious attempt to dish all the work of the Works Committee in its pre- sent form, for everything it attempted to do was taken out of its bands and placed in charge of another committeo. Mr D. Davies: I am very much surprised that Mr Roberts should raise this matter now. Mr Roberts was on the committee at one time, It.Jd he said he would like to have a word to say about the site Mr R. Roberts On a point of order, if the committee told ua this was the aaine scheme as WAS before us twelve months ago it would modify the vi-ews of some of us. Mr D. Davies added that Mr Roberts was one of those who selcet-ed the spot where the lavatory was to be-. The Chairman said there were more than two years since he was commissioned to see l'or that site from the Ecclesiastical Com- missioners. Mr Chantrey And I can assure Mr Roberts that. there has been no scheme before the Council for the laf-t two years other than this one. I propos-e that the Council be empowered to proceed with it ct onoe. Mr Sarson seconded, and this W3 agreed to, it being- further resolved to apply to tho LocaJ Government Board for sanction to borrow the neoeasary money. A STREET NAME. The question of changing the name "North Madoe-street to that of Arfon-avenue" was deferred for further consideration. PREPARATIONS FOR FOOTBALL. A letter was read from the secretary to the Amateurs Football Club agreeing to pay the prOjX>sed increased rent for the football pitch m the field, and asking that the propoaedi levelling work may be done forthwith. For- inal application was also made for the use of the pitcll on Good Friday. It was decided that the clubs arrange amoiigst themselves as to play on Good Fri- day and Easter Monday. NEW ROAD AT CRAIGYDON. The Works Committee reported meeting at Sylva Gardens, Craigydon, and discussing with Mr Hill, en amended plan submitted by him of the proposed new road at the north side of the new houses recently erected by him, facing Carmen Sylva-road, and after thorough consideration and inspection of the site it was resolved "That the plan originally submitted be approved of so far as the same r<lla.tca to the line of the ro,%d abii,.tin,?, on Mr Hill's propertv, a plan sho-ing tlio'pre- &?it proposal to he del s;tEd." 'Me t a,, adop?-i. pl?IN ?YW NSIDE? WATER 'UPPLY. The Water and Gas Committee reported that at a special meeting th-c Chairman (Mr W. Thomas) reported that on the 18th ult. rep -t cotr he h. -eiv-e -munication from tll,3 Penvhvn Parisli Council appealing for a water supply for Penrhynside. He, with Mr W. O. Williams and Mr J. McMaster, met at tho Town Hall to discuss the situation, and owing to the urgent nature of the application he had instructed the engineer to make a temporary connection to the Penrhynside main with the Llandudno water main. I'hA, Parish Cloitucil, by rc- ',on on tile -,oluti 21st, undertook to pay for the supply until the next meeting of their Council. Tho committee approved of the action taken by the Chairman, and it was decided that should application be made to the committee for a permanent supply of water they would, subject to tho Council's legal ability; to do

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