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The Town Clerk of Rhyl and the ex-Councillor. Claim for a Son's Labour. Remarkable Statements. Alleged Sweating A CASE in which the Clerk of the Rhyl Urban District Council figured as defendant, and an ex-town councillor as plaintiff, occupied the at- tention of his Honour Judge Sir Horatio Lloyd last Friday at the Rhyl County Court. The defendant, Mr Arthur Rowlands, holds a number of .offices including the assistant over- seership for the Rhyl parish, and it was in respect of clerical services rendered to defend- ant in that office by the plaintiff's son, Caradoc Williams, that he sued him for the recovery of £21, balance of salary at the rate of 6d per hour. Mr J. Roberts-Jones appeared for plaintiff, and Mr F. J. Gamlin represented the defend- ant. In opening plaintiff's case, Mr Jones ex- 1 plained that Mr Caradoc Williams was engaged for a term of 28 weeks. During, that period he received 15s a week, but it was claimed that he was entitled to £ 42, whereas the payments he received amounted to £21. Plaintiff said his son told him that defendant had approached him with regard to an engage- ment, and had offered him 15s a week. Wit- ness went to see defendant, and complained that the offer was absurd, because his son was an educated man, and had received a good training. Mr Rowlands replied that he only required his services for a few hours daily, and that he would be at liberty at any time he (plaintiff) wanted him. As defendant would only want him. for a short time each week, it would work out at about 6d per hour. To ac- commodate Mr Rowlands, he permitted his son to work for him at the rate of 6d per hour for whatever time he was engaged; and to this, de- fendant agreed. His work consisted of the pre- paration of the valuation list, for which the overseers had voted Mr Rowlands a special payment of five guineas, in addition to his sal- ary of 6ioo a year, and £ 96 10s for the registra- tion of voters. When his son left the employ- ment, he wrote to defendant for the balance of the money, but he took no notice of the letter. Not Influenced by Jealousy. Witness, in course, of cross-examination, said his son had received the £ 21 in sums of 15s a week, paid him every Saturday. He had not protested against this weekly payment, because he regarded the engagement as a temporary one, and thought that, when it concluded, there would be a settling up. He regarded the 15s a week as payment on account. He did not re- collect telling Mr Rowlands that his son was a scientific man, though, as a matter of fact, he was. Witness provided his son with board and lodgings, and consideredthat he paid him more than 30s a week for his services as assistant. As he received no reply from defendant in answer to his first letter, plaintiff sent a second letter, in the course of which he said, "I shall make my demand in full, and your little game will be exposed to the full light of public ex- posure." He denied that he was influenced in the action 'by any jealousy of Mr Rowlands be- cause of the appointments he held, and he did not think defendant was overpaid for the work, providing he did it. But everybody knew he did not do it himself, but employed others to do it on the sweating system. Mr Gamlin Is that the exposure you wanted to subject him. to by bringing this case? Witness It would simply be a statement of facts. Mr Gamlin After that observation I will not pursue the matter further with you. I will wait until your scientific son is put into the box. Mr Caradoc Williams,son of the plaintiff, then described the work which he had done during the 28 weeks he was employed with Mr Row- lands. The work had to be done in a given time, and to do it he had to work 5° hours a week for the first 14 weeks, and an averag of 70 hours a week the last 14 weeks, after working from nine o'clock in the morning until mid- night. Witness said he had been educated at the Liverpool Institute, and subsequently at the Royal College of Science and the Royal School of Mines in London. He had acted as profes- sional analyst and lecturer, but he came to Rhyl to assist his father at 30s a week, plus what engagements he got as a lecturer and sci- entist. He took the 15s a week without any demur, because he thought the balance would be paid to his father. When he had finished the extraordinary work for which he was en- gaged, the defendant offered him a permanent engagement at 25s a week, simply to do the rate- book and the rate collecting work, but he re- fused it. A Few Mistakes. Questioned as to his competence to do the work, witness admitted that he had made a few mistakes. "Are you competent, sir," said the advocate sternly, "to number a book in consecutive num- bers?" "We are all liable to make mistakes," retor- ted the witness. "Your totals were quite wrong, though. You were ZiSo out of your reckoning,?" "Yes, but in a sum of ^70,000." "But that does not matter. If it was a mil- lion, every figure should be correct." Re-examined by his advocate, witness said that in spite of his alleged incompetency, Mr Rowlands offered him a permanent engage- ment, a remark greeted with laughter. Mr Arthur Rowlands said he was the assist- ant overseer for the Rhyl parish. In February of this year, he engaged Mr Caradoc Williams to assist him temporarily, at the rate of 15s per week. Defendant did not engage his services exclusively. He said he could come and go when he liked as long as he did defendant's work. He had no idea he was dealing with the plaintiff, Mr Mostyn Williams, at all. At the close of a certain committee meeting, plaintiff said, "You are not paying my son labourer's wages. He is a' scientific man, and should have more than you give him." He (defendant) replied, "He may be worth Zi,ooo a year as a scientific man, but I only want his services as an assistant." Plaintiff commenced to say that defendant got this sum and that sum, and he (defendant) remonstrated with him, saying, that he was touching upon matters which did not concern him. Plaintiff replied, "Don't be arbi- trary," and he (defendant) said he was not arbi- trary at all, and that it was simply a matter of whether his son was satisfied or not. If ho was not, then the engagement could terminate at once. Plaintiff then asked, could they not come to some arrangement, and mentioned so many hours a day at 6d, which would not have come to what defendant was then paying his son. He replied, "But I am willing to pay your son 15s a week regularly, and he can do the work in his own time." Plaintiff then ac- quiesced, and nothing more was said. As to the quality of Mr Caradoc Williams's work, de- fendant said it was quite impossible for the young man to g;o on without the strictest super- vision on his (Mr Rowlands') part, though he admitted that the work was new to him. When it came to making a new rate book, he could not get the figures to tally with the old ones, and consequently defendant had to engage pro- fessional assistance to put the work right. It was a long time before they could discover where the errors lay, and it occupied several days of his time. After his interview with the plaintiff, he paid the latter's son 15s a week, ? and no complaint was made until he received the astonishing demand from Mr Mostyn Wil- liams after his son had left. He did not reply to it because he thought it a most monstrous demand. Exirasrdiaxry Cbaliesjge. The defendant had held the office of overseer for some years, and at every registra- tion court plaintiff lingered behind, and was the last man to go out, so that he might see the barrister giving him his allowance, and he had challenged him to hand over some of it to him. Every year he played the same game of trying, to extract money out of him that he was entitled to. Mr Gamlin: But he has not succeeded? Defendant: Oh, no, he has not succeeded. (Laughter.) Mr Roberts-Jones You don't seriously ask his Honour to believe that he was trying to ex- tract money out of you? He was simply chaff- ing you. Defendant: Oh, no; I know him too well. It was no chaff. (Laughter.) ¡ You seriously think he wanted some of your money?—Yes. Defendant ,admitted that although he knew of the inaccuracies, he had offered Mr Caradoc Williams a permanent engagement at 25s par week. His Honour, in giving judgment, said he would do both parties the justice of thinking that they were perfectly honest in the matter, and that there was 'a genuine misunderstanding. Undoubtedly the original offer was 155 a week, and for 28 weeks 15s a week was paid, and not a word was said about it. Another strong point was that no account was kept by either plaintiff or defendant of the number of hours worked, and if the arrangement was by the hour that would certainly have been done. He came to the conclusion that plaintiff had not made out his case. Under the circumstances, and having regard to the misunderstanding, he considered it would be a graceful action on defendant's part not to ask for costs. Mr Gamlin said his client would comply with his Honour's suggestion, and not ask for costs. o

Vegoline Instead of Butter. A Fr^ssatyn Confectioner's Experiences. AT the Rhyl County Court, on Friday, before Sir Horatio Lloyd, the British Dairy Produce Company, Ltd., St. Swithin's-lane, London, sued Mrs C. E. Williams, confectioner and gro- cer, Prestatyn, to recover the sum of 62 15 7d for a cask of vegoline which was described as a substitute for butter. The case was partly heard at the last court. Mr Lewis (from the office of Messrs Bromley, Jones and Co.) appeared for plaintiffs, and'Mr Moseley (from. Mr Foulkes Roberts's office, Den- bigh) for the defendant. Plaintiffs' manager, Archibald MacPherson, said the order for a cask was sent on by one of their representatives who lived at Rhyl. He had since left their employ. The cask was sent from their Dublin factory. They received a complaint from the defendant, and they asked her to make a cake from the vegoline, and to use one-third in accordance with the receipt. The cakes was examined and found to be good. They had never received the vegoline back. Mrs Williams, the defendant, said a traveller called upon her, and showed her a cake which he said was composed entirely of vegoline, and had been made by a Rhyl confectioner. The cake tasted good, and she gave the man an order for a cask, which arrived ten days after- wards. Her assistant opened it, and called her attention to its condition. The smell was very offensive. The following day, a cake was made, which smelt and o tasted abominable. Defendant thereupon wrote a letter to the traveller at Rhyl, saying, the vegoline was not fit for use, but she received no reply. In answer to a second letter, the traveller said he would see the managing director of the company about the matter at Chester, and would com- municate with her later. In response to a third letter, the traveller called at the shop and asked her to make another cake, and send it to the firm. She did so, and wrote them that she could not use the vegoline, as it would ruin her trade if she did. She received a reply, in which the company said they could not endorse all she said about the product, and requested her to make another cake according to their instruc- tions. She again did so, but the smell was still noticeable. It was not, by any means, up to the sample shown her by the traveller, and the confectioner who made it denied having made it as a sample. She refused to pay the ac- count, as she had sent the vegoline back. Miss Jones, assistant to the defendant, de- posed to opening the cask. The smell was very strong, and the stuff was not fit for human food. In the cake it tasted rancid, and when she opened the oven door she had to stand back. Mr Moseley: Why? Witness: The smell was beyond description. Rotten eggs were not in it. (Laughter.) She used half butter and half vegoline, but it still tasted mouldy. (Laughter.) The Judge: I'm afraid I cannot ask defend- ant to pay for the cask. (Laughter.) There will be judgment for defendant with costs.

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Motion of Attachment Against a Rhyl Auctioneer. Sequel to a RhutldSan Deed of Assignment. ON the loth of October, his Honour Judge Sir Horatio Lloyd made an order requiring Mr Fred Wallis, auctioneer and valuer, Rhyl, to deliver up all documents, accounts, and monies in his possession as trustee of the estate of Mr Roger Hughes, chemist, late of Rhuddlan, to Mr Hubert Holbeche, auctioneer, Market-street, Rhyl, who had been appointed trustee in his place. On Friday last, at the Rhyl County Court, Mr John Marston, solicitor, Mold, applied to his Honour for a writ of attachment (in other words, a warrant for contempt of court) against Mr Wallis for not having obeyed the order of the court. The only thing Mr Wallis had done -and with that he was highly pleased—was to pay the costs, £ 10 185 4d. (Laughter.) The Judge: Was the time limited? Mr Marston Yes, a month on or before the 7th of November. The Judge: And he has not delivered any- thing up yet? Mr Marston No, sir; and all the necessary notices have been served upon him. Mr Edward Jones, a clerk in the employ of Mr F. J. Gamlin, solicitor, deposed to serving Mr WTallis with the notice that a writ of attach- ment would be applied for. The Judge No accounts have been put in? Mr Marston: Nothing, sir. All the docu- ments ought to be in the possession of the new trustee, Mr Holbeche. Witness: He promised to send in the ac- counts when I served him with the notice so aa to prevent the application being made. I also saw him this (Friday) morning, and he said he would send the accounts in before eleven o'clock. The Judge: 'Now, you must prove the ser- vice of the original order. Mr Darlaston, a County Court clerk, said he served a copy of the order on Mr Wallis per- sonally on the 22nd of October. The Judge said there would be an order, but it would not be drawn out for a week. Costs of the application would be allowed.

Llandudno Petty Sessions. MONDAY: Before Mr H. Kneeshaw (chairman), Dr Dalton, Captain Darbishire, and Mr J. Adey Wells, with the clerk (Mr James Porter). Alleged Falsification of Accounts. Mr R. S. Chamberlain (Messrs Chamberlain and Johnson) applied for summonses, on the in- formation laid by Mr John Batc'helor, of 46, Southwark Bridge, London, general secretary, of the Operative Bricklayers' Society, against William Roberts, treasurer of the Llandudno branch of the society, and Robert Owen Wil- liams, secretary of the same branch, for alleged falsification, of accounts and conspiracy to de- fraud.—The summonses were granted. The Drink List. O. Edwards, of Withry-terrace, Llandudno, a boatman, for being drunk was fined 2s 6d and costs.—-John. Williams, of 1, William's Yard, Llandudno, charged with being drunk and dis- orderly, was fined 15s and costs.—Elizabeth A. Williams, wife of the previous defendant, for a similar offence was mulcted in the sum of 5s and costs.—A similar charge was made against William Edwards, of Toll Gate, Lower Penrhyn, and a fine of 5s and costs was imposed. Indecent Language. Maria Griffiths, of Mostyn-street, Llandudno, summoned for making use of indecent language in the public street, pleaded guilty, and was fined 5s and costs. Four previous convictions were proved against the defendant. N ü Light. For driving without a light, James Haynes, employed by Mr T. O. Owen, Nassau Buildings, Llandudno, was fined 5s and costs, the Chair- man remarking that the amount was doubled because defendant did not appear. Smart Fine for inciting. William Rowlands, of Deganwy-street, Llan- dudno, was summoned for inciting a person to commit an act of violence on the nth inst.— Defendant pleaded guilty.—P.C. 58 informed the Bench that on the day in question the de- fendant was "picking a quarrel" with another man. Witness called upon them to be of good behaviour. The other man went away, but de- fendant remained and requested to know why witness interfered, adding, "Who are you talk- ing to, you ignoramus? If you had Will Jones, you won't have me." Defendant defied wit- ness, and placed a big bulldog between himself and witness.-I-lenry D'Acre gave corroborative evidence.—Fined £1 and costs. Cruelty to a Cat. Two lads from Alexandra-road, named I -1-1- Tinsell and Herbert Rawlings, were summoned for cruelly illtreating a cat.-Chas. Vogell, of Oxford-road, gave evidence.-Fined 2S 6d and costs each. The Birch for Larceny. Tinsell was also charged with stealing a golf ball, the property of Mr C. Cummings, secretary of the Golf Clilb.-Defendant pleaded guilty.— Edward Smith, an engineer, of Blackwood Grange, Warrington, said that while playing on the links with Mr Cummings he saw a couple of lads run for the two balls with which he and his friend were playing, and make off with them.- Inspector Griffiths said he called at the defend- ant's house, and Mrs Tinsell, the lad's mother, produced the ball which was now shown. He charged the defendant with stealing it, and cau- tioned him. Defendant then made a statement to the effect that he did not go to school that morning, but, in company with another boy, went to the links to look for golf balls. They saw two balls, and they made off with one each. -The Bench ordered defendant to six strokes of the birch rod, and payment of costs. V

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