North Wales Gazette

THE (Extract from the Fifth Report of the Society for the Improvement of Prhon bhcqjUne, Sfe.) THE merits of the tread-wheel, as an instru- ment of prison-labour, have, during the past year, excited considerable interest. Objections of a very serious nature have been urged against it by a Magistrate, whose labours for the im- provement of prison discipline, during a long and honourable life, entitles his sentiments to great attention. Highly as the Committee appreciate the motives which animate the benevolent author, they do not concur with the reason contained in a recent work on prison labour he object of which publication is to show that the ordinary discipline of the tread-wheel is an unsafe, unhealthy, and degrading punishment. The Committee believe that they were the first to recognise the excel- lence. and advocate the introduction, of thb tip- scription of prison labour and, after mature con- sideration. they can discover nothing in the pro- per w$v and moderate application of this punish- merit, that is irreconcileahle with the feeling' of hutua: i. y.and those principles of prison discipline which it is the object of this society to recom- mend. From documents which have been laid before Parliament, the healthiness of the tread-wheel exerc'se is satisfactorily proved. The opinions of the medical officers in attendance at the various prisons, concur in declaring that the general health ofthe prisoners has in no degree suffered injury by the exercise but that, on the contrary, the labour has in this respect been productive of con- sideiable benefit. Recent inquiries which the Committee have instituted, commit these testi- lIIonies; and asrainst evidence so conclusive, a judgment, formed principally from abstract rea- soning, and unsupported by that peculiar expe- rience which the daily observations of a prison- surgeon affords, can have but little weight. The mischievous consequences of which it is stated that the tread-wheel is the source, attach not so much to the nature of the labour, as to the degree in which it may be enforced. There is nothing painful in the simple position of the body on the wheel; and the machinery may be made to revolve so slowly, as scarcely to form a punish- ment while, on the other hand, it cannot be de- nied, that by excessive application it may be ren- dered an instrument of unjustifiable rigour. -The main question, then, on which the safety and expediency ofthe tread-wheel depends,is simply this—can the degree of labour be so regulated as to be ascertained" without difficulty,and restrained, at alt times within safe limits. This consider- ation has occupied the particular attention ot the Committee: and they have the pleasure to state that these very desirable objects can be accom- ir plished. it occurred to the Committee, on pursuing their inquiries upon this subject, that as the se- veral details in the management ofthe tread-wheel afe proportionate in their variations, they might conveniently be laid down upon a slicing Scale. The idea has been carried into execution in a very ingenious maimer by Mr. Bate, mathematical in- strument maker to the Board of Excise, who has constructed an instrument, by the simple inspec- tion of which the rate of labour can at ail times be asci rtained. The utility of this invention is ob- vious it at once enables the Magistrate, or the governor of a prison at which the tread-wheel is in operation, to secure precision of management, and by affording an accurate measure, applicable in all cases, may prevent the inadvertent excess, or intentional abuse, of this species of punish- ment. It is perfectly true that the labour of the tread- wheel, unless it be regulated with great care, may, to use the language of an able and experienced governor of a prison (in a recent communication t,o with the Committee,) become, in the fautfta ot' some, d pnghie of terrible oppression." In or- der to show the importance of further attention to this subject, and the great confusion that at pre- sent prevails in the manner of enforcing the la- bour. the Committee refer to the table in the Ap- pendix, founded on returns recently received, showing the great varieties of punishment inflicted: a bare reference to which will prove the necessity for adopting some uniformity of practice, m or- der to equalize the administration of prison (lIs- cipline. The present inequality, it will be per- ceived, arises not only from the varied degrees of velocity, and the fluctuating- proportions ot work- ing and re, ring prisoners at each wheel, but also from the difference in the working hours ot sum- mer and winter: a (iiiyerelice wliit-lv amounts in the daily rate of labour at some prisons to at least 50 per cent. By an adherence, however, to the allowing regulations, and with the aid of the scale to which the Committee have referred, the tread-mills in various prisons, even those ou the most diversified principles of construction, may be conducted upon one uniform and certain system of operation throughout the kingdom. "1. Every tread-wheel should be provided with a regulator,' bv which its rate of revolution may at all times be restrained within sate limits. 2. To the tread-wheel should also be affixed a 'dial-register,' on reference to which the rate of labour may at any time be ascertained. 14 3. The (taily rate of labour should in no case exceed 12,000 feet in ascent. 4. Care should be taken to apportion the diet to the degree of labour enforced. The Committee are aware that the observance of these rules will not remove the objections whicn many respectable persons entertain against tne use of the tread-wheel: they regard the punish- ment, under any circumstances, as too rigoious.- In the opinion, however, of the Committee, the primary feature in the character of hard labour' should be severity not equal, indeed, to every description of criminals not irreconcileahle with the feelings of humanity, nor one degree beyond that which the public interests justify, and the criminal demands yet a severity I hat shall make those who have violated justice feel the penalties of law, and the consequences Of The Com- mittee believe that for a certain class of offenders the tread-wheel is, under proper regulation, a punishment of this description, and that no House of Correction should be without it. The great proportion of offenders committed to such places of confinement are sentenced to hard labour,' and but for short periods ofiinprisonment, during which the tread-wheel is an appropr ate punishment.— But in bearing this testimony in its favour, they feel no hesitation in declaring their opinion that its value may be over-rated, and its discipline misapplied. Notwithstanding the acknowledged excellcneies of the tread-wheel, it, ought not to form the punishment of those whom the law sen- tences to imprisonment only. To infiict it on thiv description of prisoners would be to change the character of their sentence. To subject, also, convicts committed for long peiiods of imprison- ment, day after day, to this discipline, is incon- sistent with the views of the best writers on the penitentiary system, and at variance with those principles of prison management which Howard never ceased to inculcate, and to realize which the enlightened exertions of Sir George Paul and other eminent Magistrates have been zealously directed. The practice of employing females at the tread-wheel is, in the opinion of many benevolent persons, in no case justifiable. In this sentiment the Committee do not concur. Upon hardened offenders committed to Houses of Correction- such as the law has truly designated' idle and dis- orderly'-the labour is productive of excellent effects, and, if superintended by a careful matron may he safely administered but the general em- ployment of females at the tread-wheel is liable to serious obj ections and as there are, even in the absence of prison trades, other kinds of labour for, women, in a gaol that are congenial to the habits of their sex, the practice of thus employing this class of offenders is not justified by necessity. But let the punishment of tread wheel labour be ever so carefully regulated, there is one con- sideration which ought not to be forgotten, and to which the Committee cannot too earnestly en- treat attention. Punishments, however salutary, cannot alone be expected to reclaim nor do they, under any form, diminish the necessity for those moral and religious services, without which all plans of prison discipline will prove inefficient, and the formation and recovery of good charac- ter become alike utterly hopeless. The Com- mittee have been led to offer these remarks, be- cause it has appeared to them that in spme prisons by far too much dependence has been placed on the deterring influence of tread-wheel labour, while but little earnestness has beea evinced to t advantage of that subjection of mind which the punishment has a tendency to produce, and which might be available for the purposes of re- ligious impressions and permanent improvement. Tiieie i; nothing in the character of tread-wheel labour that may not be made to strengthen the power of religion, and extend the influence of her Ministers over the mind and feelings of a prisoner; and it would be indeed to be deplored, were the introduction of hard labour to be con- sidered as superseding or weakening the necessity for their labours, without which the great objects of prison discipline can never be attained."

EFFECT OF THE HIGH DUTY ON TOBACCO. OF all the articles affected by taxation, there appears to be not one which so much deserves the attention of his Majesty's Ministers as tobacco.— The additions which have been made, at different periods, in the duty of this article, have at last raised it to such an enormous and unparalleled height,that it has become a bonus to the smuggler, so tempting, so profitable, that no expence to which the Government can go for its protection can prevent, him from carrying on his trade and so extensively has this trade been carried on, that a large share of the consumption of the I united is supplied by illicit means, while the sum which goes into the Treasury decreases annually. It appears from Parliamentary documents, that the quantity on which the duty was paid, in the united kingdom, a few years ago, was about twenty-two millions of pounds weight in the year and that seized by the Revenue Officers, about 4'0,0001hs. but since the duty has been raised to its present amount, the quantity on which it has been paid is about, fifteen millions of pounds weight, and that -which has been seized nearly one million of pounds weight in the year. Now, as the quantity seized, in the different periods, may be supposed to bear some relative proportion to that which escaped, it will be seen that a great proportion of the difference between the amounts of duty-paid, tobacco is now smug- gled into consumption. It will also appear, that ids Majesty's Treasury received nearly as much from a duty of 2s. Sd. per Ih. which was the rate of 'he first period, as it, now receives from a duty ( f 4s. per lb. which is the rate of the present ] ei iod Formerly, the smuggling trade in tobacco was conducted on a small and insignificant scale; but now, so alluring is the profit, and so great is the reward, that whole cargoes are constantly being dis -vorged upon the coasts of these islands. Thus the revenue of the country is defrauded, and consequently the great bulk of the people ittjdrevl; whilst that part of the population en- gaged ill this nefarious traffic becomes demoral- ized, by habits naturally induced by sueli a vo- cation and the fair trader is ruined, by being placed in competition with an unprincipled smug- gler, who purchases the article he sells at one- tenth the price which the former is obliged to £ >h e.

In the village of Larbert, where lies intered the celebrated Abyssinian traveller, there is placed at the end of a house fronting the road, a large figure of the lion, cut from stone, by some country mason, and which may rank among the most un- lion looking of the many characters of the noble beast. The traveller could not fail to be offended with the unnatural thing, and used to recommend to the man who kept the house to have it re- moved. When Mr. Bruce was riding through the village one day, the owner, having got the animal newly painted a bright red, was standing at the door, the travellers horse naturally took fright at the grinning monster, and reared and pranced with every symptom of fear. A Mr. Bruce," cried the pleased owner, although you have been in Africa, your horse knows best when it sees a lion." The following curious circumstance took place a few weeks ago at MarseillesA gentleman of the highest respectability, who has seveial years carried on business in that town as a merchant with probity and honour, was a few weeks ago arrested upon a charge of house-breaking, under the following circumstances. His next dooi neighbour, a choleric old gentleman of-12, coming home between nine and ten o'clock in the evening discovered some person in the act of scaling his premises, and entering at the first-floor window. He immediately hailed the police, who happened fortunately to be passing at the moment,, and had the depredator (who in the event turned out to be the above-mentioned merchant, his next door neighbour) secured, and conveyed to the guard- house. lie immediately commenced proceedings against him for intent of robbery the unfortu- nate o-enideman filled the court, with witnesses, who °p.otested to his unblemished character; but all of no avaIl, the prosecutor had brought his wile, an interesting young woman, some 10 or 20 years younger than himself, together with his female servants, to prove that there was no connection between himself and the prisoner, nor the slightest intimacy between the parties; but the Jury were decided, and the Jiuhe was about to condemn the unfortunate culprit to the gallies. when he produced a iii.-ii.b,-r of letters, couched in the most tender terms, v\ hich he had received fora the wife of the pros cutor, wherein she in- vited him to bnakfast, &c. with her at different times, when her husband was absent. The my- stery bring thus unravelled, the gentleman went into an explanation of the suspicious situation in -which he had been discovered, and from which it turned out that he was in the habit of passing the nights with the lady in question whenever her husband was absent: that his mode of entrance was by the unfortunate window, that no servants might be privy to his interviews with Madame that on the night in question the husbwi being- out, he had beea in vited as usual, and wa';tI the act ( f entering, when Monsieur's unexpected re- turn t'lrew him into the dilemma in which he found himself the next morning. Learning that Monsieur had determined to arrest him for robbery (not hav ing the slightest idea of the real object of his visit), lie suffered the case to proceed to the utmost; when, perceivirg the matter to be on the point of turning out mere seriously than he at first imagined, he saw himself under the neces- sity of shielding himself from the threatened pu- nishment for the supposed crime of theft. LORD MANSFIELD AND JOSKTH JACOBS, nicknamed JOE WANT-MONEY.—" During the above able lawyer presiding as Chief Justice of the King's Bench, this same JOSEPH JACOBS was in the con- stant habit of justifying bail for considerable sums before him and one day, when he went up to justify for a very heavy sum, he was opposed by Sergeant DAVY, who had a mortal Hatred to him and questioned him as usual about his property but JOE was dressed according to the costume of time and covered all over with gold lace, upon which Lord MANSFIELD archly replied, I (,)It take him, he'll burn for the money.' At another time, Sergeant DAVY was again opposed to him and JOE coming to the Imowlèdge that there was a D U ot the Sergeant s lying overdue in CornhiH tookit up, and when the Counsel, as he thought' was cutting JOE up without mercy, upon his BEIMR tsked, whpre's you I' property, JOE. l' he answerecf, • V I 5 f"R he had been previously FUR* "'FRY,*)" TL,E A,NOUNT HE was to bail for in notes *irE EXC.EPTIOU Of the Sergeant's bill: and tillAREIN NO,IT>SIN PAI'T; an.lifvoii „ M UP DAI BIL1' Oianding it to the Ser- de MNNICLC!>1 'S, 'S° IOI1! OYEI'-due, it vil make UP de iuoiiisli., laugh ensued, and lÙ bdl was raider wVi YI' A LITT.LE CASHED EM* life of hk threatened the! that h„hL"»n TS"'„:if8 Mrs. M'Crthy fu. ™ Mr'. Scroggms, their landlord and Mr DEN^ M* Carthy repelled it very indignantly, DECLARING it was all a basely trick of Tim Scroggins TO'-ET him out of the place. The Magistrate asked What is Mr. Timothy Scroggins the tailor overhead, yer Honour," replied MR Dennis M'Carthy, and little's the truth there is in him. Here, Mary, love, and little Dennis, come forrut Mary M'Carthy, and little Dennis, her son, came forward from among- thf* crowd at the lower end of the office I:-cording]V' and having done their manners to his WOISHI' Mr. Dennis M'Carthy proceeded to question his beloved Mary. love, did I pnt a knife to YH at all, last nightfaith, didn't ye, Den- nis," replied Mrs. MCCARTHY. Did I put any thing else to you? Nothing at all Dennis— nothing of any I)i,l I EV-r bale ye, out No, indeeJ, Dennis didn't ye-ounly ye was a bit fracrious with me last night. But ye didn't bate me at all a" 1 renumber Very well, then!" said M- Dennis M'Carthy, ti- YPR HONOUR sees the rights of it and Tim Scroggins is a great blackguard to be sending me to the could watch-house out of m- oitn warm place." Dis; Worship asked Mrs. M-Carthv whether Denni* was a good husband in general ?->' indeed ami PNRILS'- YE: T°RTC,LII)'" Mrs. M'CCTRFHV. cuitsymg to the ground—" as nine a husbun I a* WIS!> FOR~^RI'N the Ucler. it oftet he it ¡hi", shpwi:lg: Dennis was gins was told, that if he wished to -EUI L ofa- troublesome lodger, ho must do it by legal means. S PAR SING AT THE ROYAL TENNLS COURT -J Langan, the Insh champion, had a beniit on Friday at this Court, which was crowded to ex- cess. An unfortunate accident had OCCURRED "to Langan, who was very lame, from having run a nail into the joint ol his toe through his boot — He, however, addressed his patrons after he mounted the stage with Belcher. He regretted that it was not in his power to entertain the com- pany as he wished, but he would DO his best.- After the set-to with Belcher, which was M ex- cellent one, and in which there was much equa- lity in respect to science, unbounded applause a.id shouts of bravo I" followed.—Langan next said, the honour conferred upon him was an HO- nour he should ever feel proud XP deserve and should he again appear in the iilii> lie nle'DU-erl himself as an Irishman that his humble E^RU shouhl not be wanting to produce a more a ree- able mill than that on the last 7th of JANUARY 1 (Shouts of applame.) JFE had merely to'S ate, W Ja l l; tad°P^'d the ProfeMionJf a pugi^ 1st foi a short time, he was always ready to ac- commodate any man called the Champion of Eng- land froni £ 300 to £ 1000 on a similar sta^e to that on which Cribb and Molineaux fought their last battle. (Loud cheers.) He had no animo- sity against any man, but a strong desire to dis- pute the Championship with any man in the world. HATTON.G ARDEN .-Eccentric; Lunatic.- Friday a most respectable-looking man, about 40 years of age, named Joseph Watson, was brought up from Clerkenwell watch-house,charged with (lis- orderly conduct on the preceding night, assault- ing watchmen, &c. &c.—The watchmen stated, that about twelve o'clock, the prisoner created great alarm throughout the whole of Middlesex- J™' '^rkenweli, by knocking at the different doors AMI nng-mg the bells, cryino-out "Fire'" -••Ksi r so alarmed, that windows were thrown'"up Tnd the most pressing calls were made for the'fire- engines ladders, and other means of escape 1 Several females were sn i I that with ililflcuTlv ,rv T ™ throwing themSelv«„tf";re Pref™,ed others F OT ,,LE windows, whilst MANV OF TH U?D<'R THE E&CTS OF terror; an.i shirts S RAN INTO THE streets in thrir leirn THO approach of every watchman to DIII-PLV I CAU,SE FHE disturbance, he was i.nme- „ Y knocked down by the prisoner, llow- 'ER MUCH resistance, he vvas secured and aKen to the watch-house. When the prisoner WAS placed at the bar, he was immediately r-cog- nized by Read, sen. the head officer, as having BEEN frequently there before upon similar^charges- Owing to some eccentricity of mind, he is at pre- sent under bail at this Office, as also at Marlbo- rough-street, Guildhall, and the Mansion Houses for various freaks, such as slipping a handful ef mud into ladies' reticules as they walked the streets-thrusting the heads of intent gazers at caricature shops through the windows—and pur- chasing cat's meat and putting it into the POCKETS of the passengers—pulling women's caps and bon- nets, and lifting up their clothes.—This statement of Read's was corroborated by numerous witnes- ses.—He was sent to a private mad-house.

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THE NEGRO'S COMPLAINT. WIDE over the tremulous sea The moon spread her mantle of light, And the gale, gently dying away, Breath'd soft on the bosom of night. On the forecastle Maratan stood, And pour'd forth his sorrowful tale His tears fell unseen in the flood, His sighs pass'd unheard on the gale. Ah, wretch! in wild anguish, he cry'd, From country and liberty torn All! Maratan, wouidst thou had died, Ere o'er the salt waves thou wert borne! Through the groves of Angola I stray'd, T.ove and hope made my bosom their home, T'fiert- I talk'(i witti itty favourite maid, Nor dream'tl of tit.. ';OITOW to come. From the thicket the man-hunter sprung, My cries edlO'd loud through the air; Til -re was fury and wrath on his tongue, I He was dead to the shrieks of despair. Aceurs'd be the merciless h ind Who his love could from Maratan teer; And blasted this impotent hand, That was sever'd from all I held dear. Flow, ye tears, down my cheeks ever flow, Still let sleep from my eyelids depart, And still may the arrows of woe Drink deep of the stream of my heart! But hark! on the silence of night My Adila's accents I hear, AmI. mournful beneath the wan light 1 see her lov'd image appear. Slow o'r the smooth ocean she glides. As the mist that hangs light on the wave And fondly her lover she chides, That lingers so long from the grave. > £ Oh, Maratan, haste thee!" she cries, Here the reign of oppression is o'er, The tyrant is robb'd of his prize, And Adila-sorrows no more." Now, sinking amidst the dim ray, Her form seems to fade on my view; .0 stay then, my Adila, stay- She beckons, and [ must pursue. To-morrow, the white man in vain Shall proudly account me his slave les I Plunge ill the main, And rush to the realms of the brave.

THE APPROACH OF DEATH. -Hope is nothing but a false decay, The sick man's lightning half an hour ere death, When Faintness, the last mortal birth of Pain, And apathy of limb, the dull beginning Of the cold staggering race which Deaih is win- ning, Steals vein by vein and pulse by pulse away; Yet so relieving the o'er tortured clay, To him appears renewal of his breath, And freedom the mere numbness of his chain ;— And hen tie talks of life, and how again He i. cis his spirits soaring-allwit weal;, And of the fresher air, which he would seek And as he whispers, knows not th tt he gasps, That his thin finger feels not what it clasps. j And so the film comes o'er ill"-aud the dizzy Chamber swims round and round—and shadows busy, I At which lie vainly catches, flit and gleam. Till the last rattle choaks the strangled scream, j And ail is ice and blackness—and tlie ear.h I That which it was t.ie moment ere our birth.

HUNT'S CONFESSION. (Concludedfrom the Weekly Dispatch.) THE next morning (Saturday), assoonasitwas sufficiently light, I went with John Thurteil to the lane to look for the pistol and penknife but we were unable to make any very particular search, because some labourers were near the spot, employed in repairing the road. We, how- ever, saw a great quantity of blood at the place where John Thurteil said he had cut Mr. Weare's th/oat. Thurteil, in order to account for our be- ing there, and also for the blood, if they should discover it, pretended to the labourers that we were upset there overnight in the gig. About eight o'clock Prober! came down stairs, and we told hi.n we had been looking in the lane lor the lost things, but could not find them and he pro- mised, after breakfast, to take the dogs, and go to look after than. In the course of the morning he took us round to the siirtibbei v, and pointed out a spot where he thought it would be best to bury the body because, as he said, it was very much hid by the shrubs and tret s and desired us to bring down a new spade f onitown, as he had not one that was fit for use and he said, that he would assist at digging in the night-time, because he understood it better than us and lie said, 11 [ will not leave here until every thing is safely stowed away." After we had breakfasted, Probert put the bag, the box, and the gun, into the chaise, and John Thurteil and I went to London. On reaching Oxford-street, J. Thurteil got down, saying he would go through the back streets to Tetsall's, for fear he should meet Upson, who had the warrant against him for the Fire-office prosecution and he desired me to take all the things home to my lodgings, and return the horse and chaise, and then join him at Tetsall's. According to these directions, I called at my lodging's, and left the articles I have described and [ also secreted under the bed the drap great coat which Thurteil wore when he committed the murder, and which was a good deal stained with blood and after taking home the hoise, and chaise I went to Tetsall's, where I found the two Thurtells. From the conversation that pas- sed I found that John had communicated every thing to his brother and in my presence he told him that we were going down again for the pur- pose of burying the body. After a little time John gave me a duplicate, and one of the ol. notes, which he had retained, to go to Mr. Gray's, a pawnbroker, in Fleet- street, to redeem a suit of clothes which he had in pawn there and I paid the same note in the name of Price, to the pawnbroker, who wrote that name on the back of the note. The things came to SI. 8s. and I took them and the change to Thurteil. Some time after my return with the clothes, John took Mr. Weare's watch out of his pocket, and Thomas said to John You ought to make me a present of the watch, because you got those clothes by means of one of my bills and he se- veral times afterwards proposed to buy the watch. In the course of the afternoon I went with John Thurteil to an ironmonger's, in Warwick- street, Golden-square, to buy a spade. Weboth went into a warehouse up stairs John Thurteil ¡ selected and paid for one, and I took it by his de- sire to my lodgings until next morning, when we I were to take it down to Gill's Hill. cl, On the Sunday morning I again got the horse and chaise for John Thurteil and me, to go down to the cottage, and the spade was put into the chaise. On the road we overtook Thomas Thur- teil, and John got out of the gig to let his bro- ther ride. On arriving at the cottage Thomas threw the spade over the hedge into the held, and Probert afterwards went and fetched it from thence, and again pointed out the place where the bodv should be buried and in the course of the morinna-, while walking in the garden, John ThurteYl told his brother Thomas, in my presence, where the body was secreted. He po nted to the place In the pond, and said, There lays the b——y thief, safe enough, who robbed me of and would not lend me oL that's the way all such b s should be served and it will not be long before we have Holding there." Thos. Thurteil laughed, and said it was a famous place for thepurpose, because there was no other house near. While we were near the pond, John Phurtell said to Probert, If you do the thing that is right, Bill, this is how I will serve the man you want out of the way. Bankruptcy, I mean. You know Holding, don't you. Bill ?" Yes," said Probert, too well," Then," said John Thurtell, you understand what I intend doing." Yes, yes," said Probert, I know well enough: we will have him for another turn." In the course of the afternoon, Probert wentto Mr. Nicholls, and was absent about two hours. On his return he appeared greatly agitated. He called me into the garden, and told me he had been much alarmed, in consequence of his having seen two or three gentlemen at Mr. Nicholls's, one of whom told him that he had heard the re- port of a pistol about eight o'clock on Friday night that another mail had said he heard two pistols and Mr. Nieholls said a report was raised that dreadful groans had been heard, and some one calling forlhelp, and saving, "Oh, John, for God's sake spare me, and I'll give you all the money I've robbed you of!"—Unit at the tiiiie this was mentioned, he, Probert, had a glass of gin and water in his hand, which, with his great fright and trembling, shook very much, and he was so agitated, that he should have dropped it, and no doubt he should actually have fallen if he had not sat down and he was much afraid lest his agitation should have been discovered. While Probert was relating this to me, John Thurtell came out, and Probert repeated it to him, and added that Mr. Nicholls had talked about drag- ging the pond for large fish, and said, Of course if this is done the body will be found." John Thurteil appeared alarmed at this information, and said, Then I'm done." We consulted on the best steps to be taken and in the course of conversation John said, as he had brought down a spade, he would, in the couise (;f the night, endeavour to dig a hole to bury the body. The next morning J. Thurteil shewed me, Probert, & his brothcrThomas, where lie had commenced digging the hole, but said he had found he had not sufficient strength to com- plete it, and had therefore filled it up again and it was arranged that the body should be re- moveJ that same night to some spot where it could be concealed. After what had passed at Mr. Nicholls's we all became very much afraid that SOllie sti:" would be made in tlltl business and in order to prevent the boy from being qiu>stioned, or giving any information as to what he had seen or observed, it was determined to take him to Loudon. And on the Sunday night it was settled, that the boy should go up in the chaise with nie and Thomas Thai ieii, in order tint one of the Thurtells might get him a place in Lon ion. Severa! plans were then talked of for disposing of the body. Thomas Thurteil suggested, that it would be a safe way to get I i(I of it, to cutolr i the head and bury it, and bring the body to the house in ani secrete it there until a convenient opportunity occurred of throwing it into the Thames and then, if it floated, no one would be. ;j.b!e to recognise it and this pJad, i undeisoed, was to be Accordingly to the arrangement which had been the boy came up to London on the Monday morning, with Thomas Tiuuie 1 and me, in Piobeit'sgig and us the lad was with us, nothing particular passed, except, when we were passing over a small bridge, near Edgeware, r. Thurtell, pointing to the water, said, This would not be a bad place." At another time ne said, we might find some difficulty to get rid of the job but it was well planned to leavcthe big one (meaning Probert) at home." Thomas ThurteU quitted the chaise at the cor- lwr of Maddox-street, and seut me on to his at- sc torney, in Clement's Inn, to inquire if the bail had been accepted. I went there, but the attor- ney was not within; and, on my going to Tet- sall's, I found Thomas Thurteil there reading the newspaper. He then sent me to my mother s, whose name had been given as one of their bail, to ask if any inquiries had been made there. On seeing my mother, she wasuispleased ather name being used, because she knew nothing of the Thurtells, and said she would decline becoming bail. Just after [ came out my mother's, I met John Thurteil, Miss Ann Noyes, and Thomas Noyes, in the gig I ltad hired at Charing-closs and John Thmtdl left the gig he was ill, and joined me and we rode together as far as Ox- ford-street, when he got out to go to 1 evsall s. [ took the chaise to the end of Conduit-sheet, where Tetsall's man took it from iiil, and Mr. Noves having come up with the hired chaise and horse, 1 received it from him, and took it home. I at the same time ordered. another horse and chaise to be ready for me the same afternoon, at three o'clock, and then returned to Tetsall's. The two Thurtells, Noyes, Ennison, and my- self, dined at Tetsall's and at three o'clock Thomas said to his brother, Joint, you had better go down and tell Probert that Hunt's mo- ther has declined being bail, so that he may get another." John, who understood what was meant, replied, Very well; Hunt, you go and get the horse and chaise again, and we will ride down." And he directed me to drive to Tyburn Gate, and there wait for him. It was nearly six o'clock before John Thurteil joined me he was dressed in a great coat, and trowsers over his breeches, which I had never be- fore seen him wear. On reaching Elstree we stop- ped at Field's for nearly an hour, and then went on to the cottage. On seeing Probert, he expressed considerable fear of a discovery, and begged that the body might be removed as early as possible that night from his premises and he stated his determina- tion, in consequence of the reports in the neigh- bourhood, to leave the cottage entirely, with his family, on the following Tuesday. Probert sug- gested the propriety of cutting all the clothes off the deceased, so as to prevent his being identifi- ed and he undertook to rend or cut them into small shreds, and distr bute them in such a man- a ner as that they could never be put together again or be known. Between twelve and one o'clock Probert and John Thurtell left me with the females, while they, under pretence of getting the horse harnes- sed and chaise ready, took the body from the pond, and cut off the cloihes. Probert took out with him a white-handled knife for the purpose. After they had been out some time, Probert came in and told me the chaise was all ready, and that Thurteil was waiting for me. I then took leavt. of Probert and his family, and on joining John Thurteil, perceived the dead body, enclosed in a sack, laying in front of the gig. We went on with it to the pond near ],Is tr e(, and there threw it in. The pond t understood was selected be. cause it contained several feet in depth of soft mud, into which the body would sink, and there I was therefore no danger of its being discovered, We then came together to Coventry-street, where I put him down, and after returning the horse and chaise to the place from whence it was hired. I went to my own lodgings. On Tuesday forenoon I joined the Thurtells at Tetsall's and about three o'clock Probert's chaise was brought there, and Thomas Thurteil desired me to go down to Probert to arrange about bringing up his children the next morning. [ ac- cordingly went, but happening to stop at Field's in my way down, I heard some people talking about a woman having been found drowned in n pond; and suspecting it might be Wear's body Z, that had been discovered, I became greatly alarm- ed, and instead of goingon to Gill's Hill Cottage, I returned directly to town to the Thurtells, and told them what I had heard, and my fears that something was wrong on which John was as much frightened as myself, and he said to his brother, You had better go down, Tom, and inquire the particulars, and you can do it with safety, because no one kuows you." Thomas Thurtell accordingly went down almost directly, with same horse and gig, and that was the way lie happened to be at Probert's when the officers went there that night and apprehended him. All the things belonging to Mr. Weare had been taken to my lodgings, until John Thurteil should have an opportunity of taking them to some man in the city whom he said he knew would buy them but as there was some danger of suspicion falling on us, and a probability of a search being made at our lodgings, it was deter- mined to get rid of any thing that w^as likely to be identified, and also to remove the marks of blood from the great coat which had been worn bv John Thurteil when he committed the murder, and which was still under my bed. We accord- ingly went to my lodgings, and sent my wife out on an errand, to redeem a coat of mine that was in pledge at a pawnbroker's in St. Martin-lane, while we did what was necessary. We tried, by washing the sleeves of the coat, to remove the stains of blood, but could not succeed, and it was therefore determined to cut the sleeves off, and throw them separately away. and secrete or other- wise dispose of the body of the coat. 1 he sleeves were left with me to get rid of, and I threw them down the privv ofthe house where I lodged, and the other part without the sleeves was dropped in Marv-le-bone. Thurtell cut Mr. Weare's hat in small pieces, and threw the pieces in a street near Maddox-street. He also threw a white-handled razor and strap on the pavement in a street facing Maddox-street and Bond-street, which were di- rectly after picked up by a man accidentally pas- sin°- by. Mr. Weare's tortoise-shell comb and hair-brush he dropped in the middle of the same street, and a housewife filled with thread and needles belonging to the deceased was thrown be- hind the railngs of a house in Maddox-street. The next morning I was apprehended, and John Thurtell also, when, after undergoing a short examination at Bow-street, we were con- veyed to Watford and there, in consequence of the solicitation and promise, made to me, I dis- closed where the body was concealed, and con- fessed many of the leading particulars of the horrid transaction. I also told the officers what articles they would still find belonging to Mr. Woare, at my lodgings. The reason for marking out Mr. Graham, who is as I understand related to Mr. Clutterbuck, was, to get rid of a prosecution he was carrying on against someparties who had won a large sum of money from him and Weare and others were supposed to be urging on the prosecution, be- cause the party, who won the money, refused to let him share with them. JOSEPH HUNT. An honest, jovial priest, formerly residing in Carlow, having been asked by a Protestant gen- tleman whether he believed in such a place as t, Purgatory, he replied, "My dear friend, don't press the'question, but I can tell you thus far, s that it is the fire blazing in Purgatory that makes the priests' pot boil in Carlow."