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CONSERVATIVE MEETING AT BERRIEW. SPEECHES BY COL. HARRISON AND MR. ROBERT WYNN. On Wednesday night a Conservative and Unionist meeting in support of the candidature of Mr Robert Wynn was held in the Assembly Rooms, Berriew. The chair was occupied by Col. R. J. Harrison (Caerhowell), and there were on the platform Mr R. W. Wynn and Captain Johnes. Amongst the audience, which numbered about 80, were Mrs Humphreys-Owen, Rev J. Baines, Mrs and Miss Baines, Mr Lewis Andrew, Mr A. Howell, Mr W. Howell (Rhiewport), Mr Garnett (Rhieiv Batik), Rev J. Roberta (Fron), Mr Evan Jarvis (Lion Hotei), Mr E. Langford, Mr C. Shuker, Mr P. Bullock. Mr Evan Watkin (Sad House), Mr Thomas Embrey (Keel), Mr and Mrs Lloyd (Berriew), Mr Arthur (The LJoh), Mr and Mrs Withers (Rhiew Bank Cottage), Mrs Davies (Halfway Inn), Mr JKdw<*rds (Cefuyiheboth), Mr Pritchacd (fiea House), Mr Francis (Gaer), &e. The CHAIRMAN opened the proceedings by reading a letter from Major Corbett-Winder, in which he stated that he was prevented from attending, owing to his having been at a ball the previous night and felt quite knocked up klaugtiter). He asked the Chairman to tell Mr Wynn how sorry he was he was not with him, for there was no one who wished him more success than he (the writer) did himseif (applause). The Chairman said they all knew Major Corbett-Winder enough to know that when he saiu a thing he meant it, and they might feel sure that his good wishes would be carried out and seen at the time of an election, by rendering Mr Wynn every assistance in his power. They had met that night lor the purpose of meeting Mr Wynn, who had come forward to storm what some of their friends fondly hoped to be an impregnable citadel, the seat for the county of Montgomery, on behalf of the Conservative party. He did not wish in any way to be personal, but, perhaps, Mr Wynn might not be big to look at- (laugiiter) -but they all knew the great objects which little people had achieved in the past, and if Mr Wynu were not large in stature nor great in buik, he had got THE HEART OF A LION —(cheers)—and he meant to go into the fight with the full determination to win (hear, hear). He had very little doubt that if he carried out the work he had in view, with their assistance and co-operation, Mr Wynn would find himself in the position he hoped to hold (cheers). He was fully aware of the difficulties of the battle before him, and that he had to tignt for a seat, which for the last 13 years had been held by the opposite par y. He did not mini- mise in any way tne difficulties he would have to encounter, and one of those difficulties was as to who he would have to meet as au opponent (laughter). At the present time there was a great deal of uncer- tainty. They heard that the present member, who was such a strong pillar of Radicalism and who strongly objectea to anything of a hereditary char- acter, it was whispered quietly, and perhaps not falsely, that he hoped to fiad himself within that haven cf rest-the House of Lords (loud laughter). Whether the rumour was true or not time would only prove, but at any rate that impression war, abroad of that there could be very littJo doubt. Within the last week they had seen a report in the papers in which it was stated that in the event of Mr Gladstone beu^g beaten in Midlothian be intend d to offer himself to this constituency in other words, that Montgomeryshire was to be willing to take tuat which Scotland refused to have (iaughter). For the future success of the Conservative cause, although he did not say that Mr Gladstone would not get in, he firmly believed he would at the first election, but if MB GLADSTONE CAME BEFORE THE CONSTITUENCY, it would be the last herald of the future success of the Conservative party. He based his argument on tuis fact, that wherever Mr Gladstone had sat for, he tad, after a time, been inevitabiy turned out (loud cheers). If he had not been turned cut he had considered discretion (tie better part of valonr, a:.d cleared out of th<j con- (tie better part of valonr, a:.d cleared out of th," con- stituency. He had sat tor the University of Ox rd, for-a division in Lancashir e, Greenwich, and from ihere he thought it advisable to transfer his affec- tions to Midlothian, and the result af the last eiec- Liou at tue laUei.* divhionhad showed that instead ui being returned v.itu a lar^e ajority, he had oiki), the moderate majority ot about 600 [cheers, and voice; "It was not his majority"]. If Mr Gladstone stood for Midlothian at the next election he would oertainly be turned out (cheers). Whether Mont- gomeryshire was to have the leavings of Scotland at the next election. or whether a gentleman of the county would be their opponent; a gentleman well known, and whom they all respected—[Captain Johnes: "No, no']-yes, he (the speaker) had the greatest possible respect for him. He took a great interest in the ccnnty, and he worked very hard. He (the colonel) did not agree with his principles and views, nor the modes in which he carried them out, but he had every respect for him (hear, hear). At any rate, whoever Mr Wynne had to fight, the fight would, to a certain extent, be made somewhat easier by the unpleasant and not very creditable manner 1m which a certain portion of the Liberal party within the borders of the county had behaved during the past twelve months (cheers). He was not going to stir up the MUDDY WATER OF THE ELECTION PETITION trial, but he wished to point out that that petition was tried according to the law of England, and according to the law of England Sir Pryce-Jones retained his seat. According to the law of England the judges declared that his opponents should pay his costs, and he did say that it was a most burning shame and a great discredit to the Liberal party in this county, that three men of straw should have signed that petition, and that Sir Pryoe-Jones, after winning the trial, should not have been paid the costs he had incurred during that trial (cheers). He said distinctly that it was a most discreditable proceeding, and it must to a great extent have an effect upon and would weigh in the minds of the electors in this county against the Liberal party (applause). It was not for him to enter upon a long discusaion as to the actions of the present Govern- ment. They had heard all about them during the past twelve months, and no doubt Mr Wynn would have a great deal to say upon the subject, but he thought, at any rate) that chart (pointing to a copy of the Home Rule Bill, which was adorned with fancy colourings, pointed out to them that England was in great danger, and if they did not mind they would be under what he would call A SYSTEM OF MODERN TYRANNY (cheers). There was one man, and one man only, who was so deeply wedded to Home Buie, and who bad done his best to carry into law such a bill for the better Government of Ireland in one session. In past sessions many great and important Bills had to be brought forward and discussed, and from the fact of their importance they had been dropped for the eeiision because they had not been fully discussed. The chart on the wall woul4 show them how much of the Home Rule Bill had been discussed, and they would see that they only debated a very small por- tion of it [cheers, and Captain Johnes: Shame, shame"]. He thought they had great reasons for congratulating themselves that they had a House of Lords- (cheers)-and because they had the courage of their opinions, and had refused co pass a Bill which tad never been discussed, and upon which the electors of the country had never passed their judg- ment. They had had no means of judging the merits .,f the Bill, and the House ot Lords decided to refuse to pass through their House the Bill which h id been hurried through the House of Commons in such an irregular mauner-(cheers)-agaiust one of the great glories of England, freedom of debate and freedom of the House of Commons. If it were to be witbin the power of any minister to rush a bill through the House of Commons in the way Mr Glad. stone had endeavoured to do the Home Rule Bill, he thought that they were in great danger of being gov- erned by an autrocrat and being entirely under a tyranny (hear, hear). With regard to other mea- sures, when Mr Wynn represented them in the House of Commons-(obeers)-he would make agriculture the oue topic upon which he would pay greatest attention to. This was evidently an agricultural county, and in the present UNHAPPY STATE OF AGRICULTURE, he thought it was of the greatest possible necessity that they should return to Parliament a gentleman who was brought up in the county, who waa one of the county, and who was prepared at all costa t promote the welfare of the agricultural portion o* the constituency (cheers). He thought there was one subject upon which the attention of their legis- lators should be turned, and that was the question of the railway rates. He knew it was a difficult and thorny subject. but something ought to be done so that the English farmer might be able to send his produce into the London market, and other markets ot the provincial cities on the same terms as the foreign producer. Through rates was a difficult ques- tion, but at present the foreigner could send his corn to market cheaper than the home producer, and that was having the effect of doing away with Free Trade. It was t)ro, e,eting the foreigner against the English farmer (cheers). There was one other point he would mention, and that was the burning question of Wales, the question of the Church. He hoped be would not say anything that would be offensive to their Non- conformist neighbours and friends. There was one ooint which did oeem to him to require to be cleared up. and that was he could not understand the ground upon which EARNEST AND RELIGIOUS NONCONFORMISTS wished to disestablish and disendow the Church (cheers). There was no doubt that the endowments of the Church were left in the past for the purposes of religion. As he understood it, the scheme of their opponents was to disestablish and disendow the Church, and take away from her the endowments she now possessed, and use them for purely secular purposes. That seemed to him to be entirely wrong. Money left for the purposes cf religion should be u-i, (I for religious purposes only and for no other (cheers). He did not say that it was not possible to improve the Church of England, he thought she was improv- ing and being improved every day, but to cripple her, when she was doing a great work, by taking away her fUDds which enabled her to do that work was doing great injury to the cause of religion at large (loud cheers). He quite agreed that every credit was due to the Nonconformists for having found the money to build their chapels aud maintain their mini-itera-(cheers) -but he could not see how they would improve their position if they took away the funds from h ir sister Church, I NOT FOR THEIR OWN BENEFIT, { but to use for secular objects (hear, hear ) It was said that endowments were not good things, and that it was better to have everything on a voluntary basis. He wouui like to call attention to the Intermediate Edu- cation scheme in the county. Tne first thing they were endeavouring to do was to raise an endowment fund, so that the school could be carried on in a pro- per manner. Every hospital, every infirmary, every- thing which concerned worldly affairs, they tried to rais3 an endowment fund for, and if these things were necessary to carry on efficiently worldly affairs, bow much more important and necessary were they to carry on things spiritual, which were of such greater importance (cheers.) There was another ground, though a much lbwer one, he would take up, which would show that disendowment would not benefit the districts. When the Church of Ireland was disen- dowed the money was used for building piers and im- proving seaports on the coast, but the inhabitants were not one penny piece the better off because the Church was disendowed. How would the inhabitants of the various parishes of the county be benefitted if the discndowments were taken away from the Church ? It was a low grcund to look at the question, but the majority of parsons had to live in the villages, and he spent his money in the villages, but when they took away his money how they would be benefitted h failed to see (cheers.) He contended that the men WHO were going about the country advocating the disestablishment and disendowment of the Church should put their hands in their pockets and raise a Nonconformist endowment, so that instead of endea- vouring to LEVEL DOWN THE CHURCH the Nonconformist should level up 10 the Church (cheers). He hoped no Nonconformist would be offended at what he had said, but he had simply put the matter as it occurred to him. He would call upon Mr Wynn to address them. He was a Welsh- man, brt-d and born among them. He was well aware of all that, concerned the farmers, and he took a great intcest in agricultural topics; and he was wiiiing to fight this severe battle, and whom they hopad it .vouid be their pleasure to send to represent them in Parliament (loud cheers). Mr R. W. WYNN, who was well received, at the outset of his speech, referred to the pleasan- associations which the village of Berriew brought hack. For many years he had been connected with the Montgomeryshire Yeomanry Cavalry, and had pÛrb2 ps taken a greater interest than some other officer*, an i was doing his best for the soldiers but tie laust say that the men known as the Berriew troop wire the pleasant st and sharpest lot of men that any man could wish to c)mo into contact with (app!au-e>. He hoped his connection begun with them would go 01), and that be might know them (the audience) and others, and that they might all feel there was existing between them a true bond or union (chf-ors). He was rather amused to read a criticism of a certain meeting, heid at Welshpool, in tile Montt)onw»shire Express' and Radnor Times. He believed that paper assorted that Mr Stuart Rendel would not have any cause to tremble in his seat. He thought it was very likely they (the paper) knew ;uore°than they did, and that they referred to the rumour about Mr Rendtl's seat in the House of Lords (laughter). Perhaps they were trembling for vL Gladstone—(hen r, bo-tr)-bul. whoever they '■>u:;ht, whether Mr Stuart xiendel or Mr Gladstone, or Tuy tl,;er gentleman in the county, he hoped the c-utl^r-y would be maintained bet.v^n them ought to prevail between persons who f. ught oil ,jL>litical ground-! (loud cheers). HE ENTIRELY DISAGREED WITH PERSONAL ATTACKS, and he hoped in the heat of battle that neither mmself or his supporters would ever use i..o-.« tactics (hear, hear). This county was an agricultural one, and it was as an agricultural member-he should have said candidate (laughter)—that he had come forward. They were bound up entirely with the land. Owing to foreign competition the lead mines of Montgomery- shire had dwindled down and practically disappeared, and until they saw a great improvement in the lead trade, he feared they would not have that great prosperity as once was at Llanbrynmair and ac the Van Mines. That bad gone, and they must now turn their attention to what remained. Take agriculture, the farmers themselves, the labourers, and the townspeople. Who was it that kept the townspeople going? It was the farmers and labourers who sold their wares, and unless there was prosperity in one class there would be no prosperity in the other (hear, hear). There were agitations being set up, by which it was stated that landowners were against the people. That point had been pretty well dis- proved by the evidence which had been given before the Land Commission sitting in Merionethshire and Anglesey and other places (cheers). He thought it one of the best possible advertisements for the land- owners, especially the larger class. They had been going through a very bad stage of agricultural do-, pression, and now that all classes were combining together, he thought that the agricultural members returned to the House of Commons should combine and work for the people they were supposed to re- present (cheers). Labour organisations were being formed, and were forcing their views, no matter how small or how great, on the House of Commons, but nothing had been done TO FAVOUR AGRICULTURE. Mr Gladstone devoted one line to it in the Queen's Speech, in which he expressed great sorrow and sympathy with the Welsh farmers, but beyond that he had done absolutely nothing to help them, and he (Mr Wynn) did not think he intended to do anything (cheerB) There was a great deal of talk about the Parish Councils Bill. Personally, he had no objec- I tion to it. He did not think it would alter the pre. sent arrangements, except that the clergyman would not have the power of presiding over the vestry, but so long as it was kept on true and right lines it would do no hurt in any way. There was one thing their re- presentatives should look after, and that was conveyed in the old English saying, He who pays the piper has the right to call the tune," but according to this new scheme the Parish Council would have the power of voting money, or levying a certain rate, and he feared that the persons who paid the rate would not have the spending of it (cheers). That was an important point they had to look to. Those who paid the rates ought to have the greater power in the spending of the rates (loud cheers). They had seen THE RATES GRADUALLY INCREASING and increasing, each year they groaned under the burden, although no efforts were made towards equal- ising or reducing them. A fellow farmer remarked to him, not far from Berriew, upon the question of highway rates, and he proved in certain parishes the farmer paid 19s 6d for each horse owned, while a horse kept for hire only paid a rate of 6s (Captain Johnes: Hear, hear.) That made a difference of 13s 6d against the farmer, who had to take the risks of the seasons, tilling the soil, bad harvests, and even on such a small thing as that he was handicapped to the extent of 13s 6d per horse. It was not to Parish Councils that they had to look for the reduction of the rates. Nobody was able to do that so well as the people who had to pay them (cheers.) He hoped th jy would not be cut away from old associations too quickly, unless they were perfectly confident that the new friends were really what they were represented to be (cheers). He would pass to the absorbing topic, about which they had heard so much, and that was Ireland. They had heard a great deal about IRELAND BLOCKING THE WAY and being removed out of the way. At present they were not quite sure, so far as the Government was concerned, as to where the Irish question was. The Home Rule Bill was pasted by the House of Com- mons by a majority of 34. That meant that if 17 members of Parliament were converted the majority would disappear. They had seen in the papers lately speeches by Mr Redmond, who represented the Parnellities. He (Mr Redmond) had distinctly chal- lenged the Government and declared that he would not, neither would his followers support the present Government if they hung up Home Rule; and he promised to wage war and make it as uncomfortable as possible for the Government during the next ses- sion. The Parnellites tepresented nine, and nine sub. tracted from seventeen did not leave a very large majority to carry on the present Home Rule Bill (cheers.) Mr Gladstone himself at Edinbugh was rather careful to hide his meaning, but they could draw the conclusion that he was yet of opinion that it was possible for the Home Rule Bill to be drawn from the visionary waves in which it was engulfed. If it were again brought forward there would then be a row with the Welsh and English parties, while if he did not there would be a row with Mr Redmond, who declared he would leave him. Which of these posi- tions was Mr Gladstone to choose? (laughter.) They had also seen another great member of the Govern. ment speaking, Mr Asquith, the Home Secretary, and he thought every right thinking man would perfectly agree and stand up for THE MANLY AND STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY which he had taken up towards the dynamiters and towards the rioters during the last regrettable coal strikes (cheers). He was down on them, and he thought rightly, and every Englishman would back him up. Bat then on the other hand a number of the men who support this Home Rule Bill had been supporters (f dynamite. They had pushed forward their policy by explosions. They bad openly ad. vocated, received grants of money from different associations in America, the Clan-na-gael, and other societies, and they were quite ready to receive it again if they could get it. Mr Asquith said that the more people came to see of the question and realise the character of the task in which the Government was engaged, the more they would understand how baseless were the apprehensions which formed the stock-in-trade of their political opponents. They had seen Ireland under different Governments, partly prosperous and preparing to right herself and then she went back again, but he did not think that a', any time they could find that Ireland was in a much worse btate than at present, as far as agricultural crim] was ooncerned (cheers). County Clare was as bad as it possibly could be. Aftt-r relating a personal incident the speaker referred to the loyal minority, as being told they ought to trust the other sections, which composed thiee-fiiths of the population of Ireland. But upon what ground could they base that trust in the Nationalists P Had they ever shown themselves capable of dealing with any one question ? Take the question of the management of the Freeman's Journal; what a squabble they had over that. Their ranks were divided into sections of all sorts and kinds. The PARNELLITES HATED THE ANTI-PARNELLITES, and vice-versa, and he asked how could theee people be brought together to rule a country properly ? (cheers). He also thought the fact that Englishmen and Welshmen by granting Home Rule would be paying .£1. 17a 6.1 per head, while Irishmen would only be paying 7s, should be brought home to their minds, and besides that enormous sum they would have an ever-increasing danger at thuir door (applause). They had seen a great deputation wait upon the Lord Mayor of London, when the principal speaker was Sir William Ewart, who distinctly and emphatically assured his lordship that at that time nearly every youth of 16 was enrolled in the north. The Irish Parliament would be cut down into sec- tions, tind the whole of the policy which they intended to pursue would be cut and dried. These men were ready to fight and maintain their rights ia the same way by which their fathers gained taose rights. They would have a discontented country close on their own borders, and should we ever be at war with any European nation they would have trouble in lie and (cheeis). The tiaies were not so very pacific I aa some people tried to make out. The Russian and the Frencc meeting showed which way the wind blew, and no two na ions hated England so much as the RusÜans and French. Supposing England were at I war with France, and I eland was under a separate Parliament, what power was there to prevent occur- ring what bad happened before- THE FRENCH LANDING IN IRELAND at the invitaiion of tue Itish, and wnat hid once happened could easily happen again (cheers). He was certain these remarks, it they thought over them, would appeal to every Englishman, every Welshman, and tell them that the worse thing to do was to grant Home Rule to Ireland (cheers). Promptly with the granting of Home Rule capital would fly the country, and when capital went credit would follow. Already the Scotch had reduced and with- drawn from Ireland three millions of investments, and a certain firm which employed 2,000 hands had taken an estimate of the cost of removing their factory to England, although it would mea 1 a loss of X40,000 to them. Starvation and ios., of work would follow, the labour markets would be fiooieJ, the streets would be filled with starving- workmen, ready to take any wage to earn money for bread. They would have to keep those families, and that would m? t/i increased rales. For that the only thing tbev would have to thank would be Home Rule, and regret that they had not put their loot down when they could and done their best to stick to their fellow Protest-ints in Ireland, in order to g,iiii various prcmii.es made at Newcastle, and that thev had tsirown a-ide their o;d feelings for their Cj- religionists nnd left them to be tram pied down by THEIR HEREDITARY FOES— the Roman Catholics (loud cheers). That he w.s certain no Welshma.n would do. The moment t!k electors really grasped whtt Home tiule really meant, they would say they would have none ot it (cheers). He would not detain them longer, but he asked them at the next election not to give tb-ir vote.- to_ a man because he htppened to have any peculiarities, but to vote for the policy which would do themselves good, the country good—(applau e)— and then they would find they would be on the right lines (loud cheers). Mr RICHARD LANGFORD said they would find in Mr Wynn a gentleman who was interested in the locality, who was a countryman of their own, and who would give a great deal more time and atten- tion to their business than a comparative stranger (cheers.) The county had for a number of years been misrepresented (Captain Johnes: Hear, hear, and ap- plause.) They had sent a man to Parliament under an error. He was not interested whatever in the county, he did not pay one penny in taxes, nor one penny as rent, and he cared for nothing but place, place, place (laughter and applause.) As a matter of business was it not time to think for themselves, and assert their independence? They had now an oppor- tunity of having a gentleman to represent them who had got their interest at heart (A Voice: Where's yours ?) Continuing, the speaker argued that an Eng- lish farmer had to pay 14s in taxes for every beast he sent to market, while the foreigner did not pay one halfpenny. Referring to the Home Rule Bill, he said Mr Gladstone at the commencement of the session did not know what it was, aud personally he THANKED GOD FOR THE HOUSE OF LORDS, and from experience he knew the Lords were the best and more practical and business-like than the mem- bers of the House of Commons (cheers.) The speaker suddenly changed his topic and commenced with disestablishment, where he got stranded, but ulti- mately he sailed to his chair with a little simple story about a ship in full sail. A Voice Won't Mr Mytton come out again P (loud laughter). Captain JOHNES was the next speaker. As the worthy Captain stated frankly at the outset that he was not a practised speaker, it is only charitable to leave a blank a I Mr WYNN proposed a vote of thanks to the Chair. man for presiding (cheers.) Personally he owed a great debt of gratitude to Col. Harrison for the man- ner in which he had befriended him during the last nine months, and he hoped that some day they would have Col. Harrison in Parliament (loud cheers, dur- ing which Captain Johnes got up, waved his hands, and several times shouted "Hoorah.") Mr LEWIS-ANDREW said he was sure everyone in the room would gladly confirm Mr Wynn's utterances with regard to Colonel Harrison, who had been fre- quently asked to become the candidate for the county, but he had always declined. Had he came forward Mr Andrew firmly believed he had a very good and almost positive certainty of being returned, because he was universally liked from one end of the county to the other (loud cheers.) Colonel HARRISON thanked the audience, and afterwards proposed a vote of thanks to Mr Wynn for the interest he took in politics, and he asked them all to help to fight for the party which was best cal- culated to promote the well-being and happiness and prosperity of the country they all loved so well (loud cheers.) Captain J OHNES proposed, and Mr LEWIS-ANDREW seconded, a vote of thanks to the trustees for the use schoolroom. After whioh the meeting broke up with loud cheerB for Mr Wynn, and singing the National Anthem.