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MONTGOMERY COUNTY COUNCIL. The quarterly meeting of the Montgomery County Council was held at the Police Station, Newtown, on Friday. Mr Humphreys-Ow^n presided, and there were also present Ald. J. Jenkins (vice-chairman), the Earl of Powis, Captains Edward Pryce-Jones and D. H. Alyt, on, Messrs W. Forrester Addie, W. Scott- Owen, 11. O. Perrott, Nathaniel W-tkin, Thomas Watkin, Dr Morris, Dr Edwards (Cemmes), Wm. Cooke, Riohard Rees, W. Theodore, John Jones, Wm. Jehu, John Shuker, Edward Davies (Dolcaradog), Richard Morgan, David Hamer, Martin Woosnaui, Richard Lloyd, Edward Bowen, Edwd. Jones, Edwd Lewis, J. E. Poundley, Hugh Lewis. David Evans, Joseph Richards, Jno. Edwards, Edwd. Roberts, with Messrs G. D. Harrison (clerk), G. A Hutchins (sur- veyor), and R. W. Hutjbts (chief-constable). CANAL TRAFFIC. The Clerk read a long circular from the Board of Trade, in which it was stated that the Board of Tritde would open an enquiry in London on October 10th, and hear objections against the schedules of maximum chargts, rates and tolls, and classifications of merchandise traffic by canal companies. The Chairman said the Council did not now contri- bute towards the Mansion House Committee Funds, and practically that meant that the Council left the other objectors to fitht its battles. At the same time it would be desirable, especially as they had one difficulty with reference to the carrying of road mtsinl with the Shropshire Canal Company to watch the proceedings. He suggested that the Clerk be in- structed to write to the Board of Trade to send a copy cf their schedule to him, and also appoint a com- mittee to consider the list when it arrived, the com- mittee to have power to act. He moved accordingly. Mr J. Shuker seconded, and the motion was car- riea, the committee to consist of Messrs Addie, Scott- Owen, R. Morgan, Shuker, Mytton, and W. Jehu. THREATENED CLOSURE OF WELSHPOOL MAJRKET. A coiniruuicatiou was read from the Board of Agriculture in reference to Welshpool Market. They objtc.ed to the abandonment of washing the stalls, which was an essential part of the process of disin- fection, and they intimated that unless the market was put into a position as would permit of its-being washed properly, the Board would have to consider the advisability of closing the market. The Clerk taid he had sent a copy of that letter to the Town Clerk of Welshpool, and he understood that a committee of that council had had the matter under consideration, and some of the stalls had been attended to. The Chairman paid what has passed was this. In womp Stance with the request of the Board.of Agricul- ture the County Council had issued a set of regula- tions, which were based upon rules which were sup- plied to them by the Board of Agriculture. They contained a clause which empowered them to dispose of some of the conditions in which a. market should ba held, and m the case of Welshpool market, they decided to dispeute with the order which required that stalls should be washed. The Board of Agricul. ture objected to that, and said that the washing pro- cess was an essential part of cleansing, and. in answer the Welshpool Town Council state that they were going to wash some of the swine stalls. Apparently the Board of Agriculture did not think that was suf- ficient, and intimate that they will have to consider the advisability of closing the market altogether. It was not so much a matter for the County Council to de-il with as Welshpool Town Council, and he thought their plan would be to send a copy of the letter to the Town Council, and wait their further communi- cation. On the motion of Mr R. Lloyd this suggestion was agreed to. ANTHRAX. A circular letter was read by the Clerk- from the Board of Agriculture referring to the serious out break of auttuax in various parts of the country, and on the motion of Messrs R. Lloyd and J. Shuker, the letter was referred to the Contagious Diseases Com- mittee. WELSH INTEKMKDIATE EDUCATION. The Secretey of the Cha. ity Commissioners wrote enolosiug a scheme for the establishment of a Central Welsh Board, aud asking the Couucil, if the tcheme were approved, to appoint one representative to the Central Board; and to make any objections they might wish, before October 21st. The Chairman said everyone in the Council was awaru that their object was to provide a Central body in Wales, which would have the organization of Welsh Intermediate Education. The. funds would be provided from contributions from the county governing bodies, from the Treasury and from two charities, and would be administered by a large body which would be elected-the majority of members- from the County Councils, and the other members would be elected by masters antl visitors to the schools. The work of the Board would be to provide certain scholarships party out of the merit fund, to aid in training teachers, and to examine aud inspect schools so as to enable them to comply with the Treasury regulations, and receive the Government grant, equal to a halfpenny rate. They would also organise pension schemes for teachors, and aid ni purchasing materials. The body would consist of 60 members, and they could elect an executive commit- tee to make the iiecei-sary arrangements for inspec- tions and examinations of schools,, and? would dismiss officers subject to the approval of the Board. To this body they wrote and asked the Council to elect one representative, providing the scheme was ap- proved. He moved that they write to the Commis- sioners expressing their willingness to appoint a re- presentative on the Council. Mr John Jenkins seconded, and the motion was carried. NKWTOWN BOUNDARY QUESTION. The Clerk reported there was no report from the committee of inquiry upon the Newtown and Llan- 11 wchaiarn Boundary Question. Mr David Hamer said the committee appointed had thought fit to place their resignation in the hands of the Council. At the last meeting of the Council the matter was adjourned, and for the same reason he asked the Council to adjourn the subject again for another three months. For a committee to carry weight he should like the Chairman to-be appointed, but under the present circumstances he- thought it would be verv difficult indeed for him to accept the position to which he would be appointed. In the course of another three montha the bill for the establishment of Parish Councils would be passad, at least, he hoped it would, when it would be the duty of the Council to appoint a committee to put that Act into operation. Its work would be very much like the work of the present committee, and he should like for the whole question of boundaries to be gone into and have a larger committee, and for the Chairman to be on that committee, for there would not be the difficulty in sitting upon a large committee as upon a sm-Lll one. Mr Bowen seoonded. Mr Lloyd: Do the committee resign P The Chairman: Yes, and ask that the question may be adjourned until the appointment of a new committee. Agreed to. ARBITRATION. The Main Roadq Committee reported the receipt of a letter from Mr W. A. Pughe, town clerk of Llanfy- llin, in which he stated that the Town Council had decided to refer the question of the amount payable by the County Council for the year 1892-3 to the arbitr ition of the Local Government Board. He was also directed to inform the County Council that theic offer iu respect of the current year was declined. Mr Woosnam asked what \US the procedure in the case where arbitration was decided (81. The Chairman They have declined our offer, and will take whatever steps they are advised to in order to get the money. Is not that so? The Clerk Yes, vir. A SATISFACTORY REPORT. The County Surveyor, amongotlierthings, reported. that the preparation of the material for metalling the main roads is proceeding satisfactorily, and that the rate of progress in this work has been greater than in either of the three previous seasons. Up to the middle of last month about 11,784 tonsof stone have been brought to the roadsidef, of which 8,450 tons are already broken, and 3,334 tons are in process of preparation at the present time. Thp estimated quantity now required to be delivered is 3,016 tons, making up a total estimate of 14,800 tons as at present required for the five new districts." LAKE VTRNWY ROADS. The 'Surveyor further reported that he had in- spected the grids and cross drains placed under the main roads reconstructed by the Liverpool Corpora- tion, from the Old Weigh Bridge site, near Pont- lleohar, to Pontoedig. He found the loadway near the Weigh Bridge hollow in the centre. and showing traces of a large quantity of water having lowed over it in wet weather. If four croas drains were placed between Nantllechar and the dam, he recom- mended the Council to aocept it as satisfactory. The roadway was certainly not in first rate order, and he could not consider its condition now, or on the 23rd January, 1893. as baing at all satisfactory. On the date of his inspection the waves of the lake had washed away a portion of the slope of the road embankment near the dam, within three feet of the road, and the Corporation ought. am stated in his report of the 12th November, 1891, to make a per- manent provision against this erosion of the slopes of the roadway, both here and also on either side of the Water Tower. With reference to the bridges Pont- cynon, Pontoedig, and the others on the district highways, which have been reconstructed on new sites by the Corporation, he should be glad if the County Council would consider whether the oontr weald beooeie responsible far their »aint»nanoe until they should have been inspected, certified, and adopted by the County Council in the- ordinary manner. The Clerk was ordered to forward a copy of the County Surveyor's report to the Town Clerk of Liverpool, asking his Corporation to carry e«t the County Surveyor's report to the Town Clerk of Liverpool, asking his Corporation to carry ..t the works recommended. THE PRINCIPLE OF LAW. The Clerk said in respect to the till presented by Mr James Baker, of Welshpool, who was under con- tract to supply stone, and whose bill has been refawed t) be passed as the Surveyor refused to certify that the atone supplied was up to the proper standard, t:lat he had examined the contract, and he found i did not provide for the supply of any distinct quality of stone, neither did. the Surveyor's order provide that the stone should be of any particular quality. The Surveyor, however, informed him that on, June 12th, owinll to the delivery of inferior stone, that he wrote to Mr Baker telling him that his supply of stone must be of hard rock, and from that date he (the clerk) should eay that the Council could indist upon Mr Baker supplying good material. Alderman Jenkins said if they required material for a certain object, that material should be suitable for the object. He believed that was a universal principle of law. If the stone were too poor for the roads it was not proper material, aud they might un<ier the principle of law reject it. Ultimately the question was left to the Clerk and County Surveyor. CLERICAL ASSISTANCE FOR COUNTY SURVEYOR. The Mains Road Committee recommended that the Committee appointed by the Council to report upon this question be re-appointed, and direoted to report upon the most effectual and economical means of providing office room and clerical assistance for the County Surveyor. Mr R. Lloyd said that a great deal of additional work had been placed on the shoulders of the Sur- veyor, and to do that he could not attend to his other duties-the min roads. Would it not be ad- visable to allow him at the rate of X50 per year for the time being to provide any clerical assistance he might require. The responsibility would then be on his own shoulders. He moved it be allowed. Captain Pryce-Jones seconded. Captain Mytton rose to a point of order. Could a motion of that class be made before it had been be- fore the Finance Committee P (hear, hear). The Chairman Yes, it does not incur a liability of more than £ 50. Mr Theodore: I do not think the Council has arranged to pay X50. They decided to allow the surveyor clerioal assistance at the rate of £ 1 per week, but there was no decision for the provision of that assistance throughout the year. Mr Woosnam pointed out that the matter was thoroughly thrashed out in committee, when it was distinctly understood and distinctly stated that, although they would allow iJl per week for clerical assistance, the clerk was to be provided by the Council. If the amendment were carried it would be practically advancing the salary of the county surveyor by .£50 per year. Whilst he had every con- fidence in the surveyor that he would provide sin efficient clerk, he thought the Council should have some supervision over the appointment, and for that reason he opposed the amendment. Mr David Hamer said that the Council should have an office where any member of the Council could go and inspect the booka-an arrangement which would be far preferable to having them located at the county surveyor's residence. The amendment was then put and lost. IMPORTANT QUESTION OF PUBLIC RIGHTS. The Main ltoidg Committee reported in respect to Naotycerig-cbchdy Quarry that they recommended the question to be referred to the next meeting of the Council. Mr Rees said the majority of the Committee was of opinion that the County Council bad a right to take stone to the roads in the parish of Machynlletb, but were in doubt as to the right of takinz metal to any other parish. They wrote to the Clerk, and his opinion was that the Highway Act, empowering the surveyor to take stoue for repairing roads was limited to the parish in which the quar.y was situated, but under section 54 the surveyor was empowered to ob- tain ii. justices'license to take stone for the repair. ing of roads in an adjoining parish. The Chairman said there was a strong belief in tie neighbourhood that the quarry was one that could he drawn upon without limit, whether for the parish in which the quarry was situated, or for adjoining parishes without payment. So far as the informa- tion was laid before the committee there was noth- ing to support that claim beyond popular belief, and under these circumstances they would not give up a public right, although he did not believe that Sir Watkin Wynn would insist upon a right he was not justifying in maintaining. The matter was referred to the Council, but from what Mr. Rees bad stated it appeared they were now in the same portion as before. It was not a satisfactory one', and it wouict, be well if they could get information which woulu enable them to decide satisfactorily, whether the 'Council was entitled to take the atone from the quarry or not. The burden of showing that was upou thv person who made the statement. He suggested that the matter be referred to the Main Roads Committee, and unless they had some defiuite evidence brought before them which would justify the Council in de. ciding otherwise, they must take the law as stateo by the Clark, that the stone could be taken for the purposes of the parish, but not for adjoining parishes. C-tptain Pryoe-Jones seconded. Mr Jenkins said the question bristled with legal difficulties. Dr. Edwards Would it not b better to take some steps to get some additional information ? Other- wise we tihail be in the same position aa before. Mr Rees How does the Surveyor get on with get-- ting the stone from the quarry. now. The Surveyor said the quarry was being used. Mr Lester Smith allowed them to get stone irom tbe qUILr". subject to any rights which might be pub- lished. The Chairman said this was one of those unfortu- nate oases in which it was scarcely able to avoid having a legal decision on the matter.. There was n feelin* in the district Uttt Sir Watkin was making claim he had no right to, whether it was right or wrong they could not say. The Council: ought to back up ita representatives, but the simple plai. would be to decide a friendly a-ise in the County Court. For the sake of the district as well as their own it should be cleared up. Mr Scott 0-veu suggested that the dispute should be referred to friendly arbitration to save expense. Mr John Jones: Should we not before we go to law have some feits put before us by the repreterita- tives of the upper district, which would afford some clear ground for their suggestion ? Mr Wbosnatn said- it would be eisier to defend an action than to bring one. The prevailing opinion was that the landowner had no right, to demand pay for taking stone. He suggested that the Council should let him bring an action, an,& they would defend it. Captain Pfyoe-Jones: We are not in a. position to go into the details of the case to-day, and it should be referred to the Main Roads Committee, when th-i Clerk will lay further information before them. If it is considered necessary to go into further details I have no doubt m Mr WoosnamIs it. in order for a member to muke a t-eooud speech ? The Chairman r I should have called you to order before. Captain Pryce-Jones t Mr Woosnam is perfectly oorrect. but be should have allowed me to make this explanation. it The Chairman: Do you olaiui under the Highway Act? Councillor Rees: Yes. Dr Edwards said the question was not contested abonttaking atone to other parishes, but only applied to Machynlleth. The motion "A" then put and carried. WELSH LAND COMMISSION, The Committee appointed to consider this subject recommended that it confiue its duties to see that the whole of the county was tully represented before the Commission with regard to landlords, tenants, labourers, and occupiers generally. Mr Shaker regretted the action the Committee had thought fit to take. The farmers outside who would be specially interested would not be represented, but, would be left out in the cold He unrterstoo-1 there were two association* actively at work preparing for the Commis-ion-the Welsh (liberal Association and the Land Defence League. The forme" would put forward questions and grievances, but not very ex- tensive. and the other would naturally defend their own nrooertv. anti neither would benefit very much. Mr R E. Jones asked what was the meaning of ihe [ teoommendatiou of the Committee. The Chairman: Iu the absenoe of the Chairman of the oommittee, Dr. Roger Edwards, I cannot tell you. I have received a telegram from him stating that be had been unoxp otidly called sway from home, and wbuU) not be abie to attend the Conceil. Mr Jenkins thought different rnen should be sent to represent oertain interests, prejudices, and grievances, other than delegates. Mr John Jones said he understood there were several geotlwaeu pr pawl to com;, forward brt re the Commi-sion wb" thd silting took ptace in the county, both agents »ni tenant farmers. He thoug ht it would be weil if their friend Mr Shaker presented himself before the Commission (iaaghtoi). He was sure his evidence would be of greater value than if he l repreMnted a body like this (renewed laughter). The committee thought it would be most difficult for Mr Shnker or any other gentleman to represent the views of the County Council. They differed on the question of land reforoi, which would be brought, prominently before the Commission. It would be difficult to fix upon witnesses to represent the *ie#a of the Council. It would be more effectual if they allowed evideaoe to Qom« forward from individuals i allowed evideaoe to 4J089 forward from individuals who might feel agrieved. He was against the appoint meat of the committee from the beginning for that very reason, but he had no doubt that when the com- mission -at in the county, there would be a lot of valuable evidence forthcoming. Mr Addie thought if evidence were given on behalf of the County Council everybody should be repre- aented. Mr T. Watkins said iu discussing the matter in committee, it was found to be quite impossible to chose people to represent landlord, tenant, and labourer. Captain Mytton: I move that the committee be dissolved (lood iausfhter). Another mtmber seconded, and the motion was carried. STEAM ROLLER. The Finance Committee reported that they had I been in negotiations with Messrs Aveling and Porter with refeience to the manufacture of a steam roller, the cost of which woald be .£612 10s, and the com- mittee recommend that the Council obtain the roller at that cost. FINANCIAL. The Finance Committee recommended that precepts be issued for the second half-year in accordance with the estimates approved by the Council on the 17th March last. 'Che same Committee recommended that twelve montha' notice begiven to Messrs John James, Roger Edwards, and Thomas Phillips, that the Couucil intended to pay up on the 26th September, 1394, the principal sum of Y.2,500 advanced by them on account of Asylum Buildings. The state of the Liquidation Fund would then be as follows :—Balance in baud 31st day March, 18113-, .£145 3a 4d instalment for the current year, XJ,481 six m ,nrhs' instalment to 806h September, 1895; total, £ 2.36613s 41.-Adopted. WEIGH.TS AND MEASURES. Mr A.. Breeze, inspector of weights and measures, reported that during the quarter ended June 30th, be had inspected 2SJ shops. III public houses, and fifteen mills. He had examined and found coi-rtcs 3.,793 weights, 647 scales, 13U machines, 2,243 I measures. Tuirteon persons were proceeded against aud convicted for having in their possession illegal weights tmd weighing instruments. He had sold the ola county cart for tne sum of X4, and paid the same to the ciiinty treasurer. Amounts received in fiues imposed, .01 17s; stamping scales and weights, -02 12s 6id J67 9d 6id. 3 THE CAMBRIAN RAILWAYS. Mr John Jenkins moved "That a reduction of the mixed trains occasion much local inconvenience." He said that during the coming winter the passenger trains and the passengers themselves would be fewer, and it was very necessary to the people living in a district accommodated by the Cambrian Railways tbat Lhey should be able to reach their homes by mixed trains of goods and passenger carriages. In large and populous districts mixed trams were not so much required, but they were almost indispensable in aspareely populated district, such as that through which the Cambrian Railway Company ran. He thought it would be well to join with other Boards and Urger rail way companies in negotiating with the Uoard of Trade to get them to agree to the Cambrian Railways Company supplying the district by allowing them to run mixed trains. Mr J. Snuker seconded, and the motion was put and carried unauimou-ly. THE PARISH COUNCILS BILL. There was upon the agenda the consideration of a commutiicanon frem tne County Councils Associa- tiod with proposad amendments to the Parish Coun- cils Bill," and tha Council nad commenced to discuss the variuus po.nts raised, when Mr Woos uam..sug gestod that the matter should be referred to a committee, who should report to a special meeting of tue Council. Captain Pryce-Jones seconded, and it was agreed to. The committee was composed as follows:-The Coairman and Vice-chairman, Messrs Mytton, R. Morgan, G. bukt ii. Lewis, David Hamer, W. Theodore, John Jones, Ricnard Rees, and Martin Woosnitm. This concluded the business of the Council, which then rose.