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N EWTOWN AND:LLANLLWCHAIARN i OCAL BOARD- ADJOURNED MEETING.—Friday.—Present: Capt. Edward Pryce-Jones (chairman), Messrs G. H, Ellison, Cornelius Morgan, David Lewie, Evan Ashton, David Owen, W. Francis, H. Lewie, T. Jones and A. S. Cooke; with Mr Wm. Cooke (clerk), and Mr R. W. Davies (surveyor.) SANITARY COMMITTEE'S REPORT. The Surveyor read the report of the above commit- tee which stated that they hai considered the circular from the Local Governmenb Board in refer- ence to the Kivera Pollution Prevention Act, but the committee did not think it applied to Newtown. They were anxious to prevent deposits being made on the banks of the Severn, and for that purpose suggested that posts should be put down to prevent carts entering upon the bank. The committee stated they had given instructions to the Surveyor to report the full particulars as to the number and the depth of shallow pump wells there were in the town, and :n respect to the last report of the Medical Officer of i Health, the Surveyor was directed to place veniiiating) shafts in various parts of the town The Chairman proposed its adopticn. He said there was scarcely anything in the report which any member could take exception to, bat there might be one or two matters which needed a little explanation, lhe first pait of the r-poi t dealt with the Rivers Pol- lution Prevention Act of 1893, which the committee did not think appiied to Newtown, but more to towns that did not po-sess sewoiage works. Referring to the deposits made on the hanks of the Severn, he isaid he thought the beat means to take to perma- nantly prevent the carting of refuse was to erect posts at intervals of a few feet from one another, and oy that means the committee thought they would effectually prevent a recurrence of the nuisance, by making it imposeible for carts to go on the banks of the river at all. They all knew it had been a nui- sance in the past, and there was a great outcry against these deposits, but the committee hoped in tixe the banks of the river might become a pleasure- able resort, although at the present time they were unable to make any recommendations in that direc- tion. With regard to the letter from the Local Government Board anent the Medical Officer's an. nual report, ventilating shafta had been ordered to be erected in certain parts of the town, and the COlO. mittee had reminded the Surveyor to report. They recommended the Boird to adopt the Public Health Amendment Act, 1890, and the Chairman of the sani- tary committee reminded him that for the reason that the Act had not been adopted, the bands of the committee were tied with regard to remedying cer- taiu evils which existed. Mr Ellison seconded. He referred to the erection of the posts on the banks of the Severn, which the committee considered the only means to prevent de- posits being made on the banks in the future. He thought it was a disgrace to Newtown for the nui- sance to have been allowed to exist so long (hear, hear). All manner of refuse was placed there. When he was Chairman of the Board he went aloug the banks of the river accompanied by the Medical Officer of Health, and he saw then stagnant pools of water, re- tuae of every description, and filth, which was in- jurious to good health. It was quite true that a oiiower of rain would remove the nuisance, but the% were continually arising, and the only effectual m-eans of putting an end to them was to erect the posts. A similar idea was carried out in regard to evern Green, and it proved successful in preventing the recurrence of nuisances. <. o Mr Francis: What will they do with the retueer I suupose it i their look oat. Mr Ellison: Certainly. Mr David Owen How about our stones? Mr Ellison: The Committee will make arrange- ments, Mr Owen failed to see eye to eye with the com- mittee upon the recommendation to put down posts, in order that it might become a pleasurable resort. It struck him betore it could become anything of that sort there would have to be many thousands ot tons of stuff put there to form it into any shape. With that view he was of opinion that it should remain open for 20 or 50 years so that everj body 0-juld cart as much as they liked to form the bank n< z(.,we degree a pleasurable resort. f Mr Morgan supported the committee a report, tie tnew the river banks for mauy years had been a perpetual nuisance. It was now, and Dr Pa.ler nail no hesitation in certifying it dangerous to ieatth. He was astonished tbat, the ovmers of tM property had not taken action against the offendtre, aud tie was sorry to say the Local Buard had -been the greatest transgressors. an, t! thing to exist, and he thought the Board should take •teps to make the entrance to the town as attractive and clean as was: possible. 'y- The Chairman When we speak of the place am a pleasurable resort we do not speak of anything iteeiv to take place in the immediate future. Mr Morgan We do not tpeak of a football ground of course (laughter). j, /■ The Chairman: At the present moment it is a standing nuisance and a standing disgrace to the town, on account of the rubbish which is tipped on the banks. The spot reached the eye of the visitor to the town within a few minutes ot his arrival, and those who lived at Newtown had to bear the brunt ot the odour fr.m there. He did not see how Mr Davi\. Owen could prevent the nuisance better than by put- ting down tne pot-ta, exoept by erecting a Wall or woolen fence. They hoped in time that grass would grow on the banks, and that Mr Owen would present to the town some of his iron seats (laughter). The motion was then put and t;.rried. ar Davio Owen dissenting.. Mr FranciB Odd man out (loud laughter). Mr D. Owen Is a man to vote contrary to h,.s win and understanding? Mr Morgan All right. He only said odd man out" (renewed laughter). STREET COMMITTEE'S REPORT. The Surveyor next read the report of the above committee, which was to the effect that a letter be written to the Newtown Gas Company, asking tu«m to inform the Board under what Act or Provisional Order tney were acting in lajing down mams «na breaking up the streets, and tbo committee recom- mended that they be empowered by the Board to consult a solicitor, if necessary, after receiving tone Gas Company's letter.. M VA In moving its adoption, m the absence of Mr HM. Jones, the Chairman said that one part 10 the electric light. A very lengthy report had been received from the electricians upon the cost ot up- plying the town with the IIlectric light. The cost was something lets than what the bouro paid t-r gas BY adopting the electric light the town would gain many advantages, which, of course, gas could no* claim It was healthier and there was leas danger, wiiile it gave forth very little heat, which was a great boon. The committee, however, did not recommend any action. At the present time they regarded electricity in its infancy, and that ere long great strides would be made, and the electric light would probably be able to be taken advantage of at a cheaper coi-t that, at present. The committee were hopeful as to com- ing to better terms with the Gas Company, both as regards the price the B,)ard paid and the price charged to small cor. sumers. The paragraph Nita-, ed the subject be adjourned for six month?. He turned up at the committee meeting rather late, and he was i, formed that the matter was adjourned ludthnitet*. Mr Morgan That was rotourintoiution. The Chairman said the other part of the report made ft recommendation to the Cambrian Railway Company, requesting thorn to keep alight their gas lamp in Station-road. The speaker next referred to the Act under which the Gas Company named on their work. and said the Coinmitt-e recommend that t'ae Clerk be requested t,) write, asking the Company under what powers they at preset carried on their undertaking, and Oil receipt of a reply they asked to be allowed to consult a solicitor upon the subject. By receiviug the reply from the Gas Company tirll. and epinw to a solicitor afterwards, the Commit.tee hoped to°set eucb knowledgo from the legal gentle- man by oue visit as would enable them to ma*« a re- nort to the Board which would be beneficial to the Jone^ complained that the gas at present had got no illuminating power at all. He never saw such gas before in his life. He seconded the report. Mr Morgan The Committee have noticed the point vou have raised. Mr D Owen did not like the cluuse for the Oom- mittee to have power to apply to a solicitor. They had worked for a gre»t number of years without a Solicitor, and it struck him very forcibly that tbey damaged themselves in the potion they now held m moving to report to a solictor. If the Chairmen of past Boards had carried on their work effectually, why could not the Chairman of the present B ard du it. Let them, however, see that it was au absolute necessity to resort to a solicitor, and th-t there was no other possible way out of the difficulty, tho-Ti nothin* else would bj left them bnt 10 run into. trouble—trouble he called it. Mr Morgan said the Comm'ttee only asked for per- mission to go to a solicitor, if necessary, and turely all Boards, or Corporations, or societies had some little confidence in their committees. they were not going to foolishly rush to consult a lawyer. I here were various Acts of Parliament to read, and the Chairman, whom ha cor.gra'uiated upon bei'.g • member of the Bar of England, had saiu they cj.uld not proceed an 1 would come to a standstill, and tho Committea found it was so. He di. Rot ask to oon- suit a solicitor any time and at all I l".y a difficult question to deal wi'li, uud he thought the Beard should have some confidence in lhe vu.ws ot the gentlemen on the committee appointed to con- 81 Mr Davixfowen I should like tbe Committee to explain the difficulty they are ia, and let the whole Board know what is the matter. Mr Morgan: When you fight a batt'e, it is not well I to let the enemy see your hand. ) Mr D. Ow-n Well, we are in the dark, that is all I have got to say. I Mr W. Lewis said that at the last meeting of the Board the permission asked for was refused, and he thought it rather unfair for the committee to ask to be empowered to consult a solicitor without bringing the matter before the Board again. He thought, unless he misunderstood the report, that there should be some communication received from the Gas Com- pany before power was given to consult a solicitor. The Chairman: There is a great diffi ulty in ascer- taining the Board's position. You will remember that at the last meeting of the Brard 1 took a strong view, and now after a special committee has bet-n appointed to go into tiie matter, there still remains members of thu Boar 1 who will nut support au inde- pendent committee. By continually writiug letters to first one body and theu ancthir, what does it mean? Our water question has b» eu before us for 18 months or two years, and we are doing exactly the sami with this, taking a poerastiuaiing course over ttie In 1; the gas works. The nights are becoming long and dark, tho gas is burning to the satisfaction of some and the dissatisfaction of others, and will you be content to put this matter off in order to save six and eightpence? Gentlemen, will you all. w me to pay tiie six and eightpence ? Mr D. Oweu I say No." Y"W?" .L1_- -& i ne utiairinaii, wnatever may ue we iri'm the Gas Company you will have to con-ult a solicitor before you can give a definite answer. It is very discouraging, exceedingly discouraging to members of the committee—the Chairman has to meet with many dideourag,iig things—to tin t that they attend the committee regularly an i other iiiembers do not, and then at the Board meetings they finei their labour is not appreciated. Now, cm I in any way prevail upon you to give us your confidence? Mr C,)oke said there seemed to be a little misunder- standing. He supposed that the cowmittee, had met and found there were points which they could not settle of course. At the laat meeting of the Board he strongly objected to consulting a solic.tor before the committee had met, but he had said tbeu that if the committee met and found there were points upon which it was necessary to consult a solicitor, he had 1,0 doubt but that the Board would sa:;ction the com- mittee to go to a solicitor. He understood the com- mi .tee had met and found there were difficult matters to settle, and he really thought the Board should support the committee and give them power to confer wita a legal gentleman. He was personally opposed to consulting a solicitor until it was absolutely necessary to do so. Mr W. Lewis said the Chairman had misunderstood his remarks, and that upon the knotty points in the matter, after the committee bad met and found out what they were, they should have power to consult a solicitor. The motion was then put and carried nem. con. PENNING SHEEP. Mr David Lewis had given noti3e of the following mor.ion Tha.t the Board allow sheep pens to be erected on the slope. High-street, for the next 3 fairs." In moving the motion, he said he thought the Board should have some better provision made for penning shet-p in Newtown. He did not think the penning had ever been extra good, but he considered that since the paving had been put down that it was worse than what it used to be. Formerly sheep were penned on the slope of ground inhiiih-street, but stnee the street had been paved farmers had been oompdlled to send their sheep up the Back Lane. When the sheep were penned on the slope of ground in High-street they looked a pretty regular lot, but now they had to take them down the Lane the farmers could not sell them to such un advantage, for some were standing on the path and others in the watercourses. Mr Ellison had been talking of having an alteration in the pens in the Back Lane, and he had been waiting for it to come foiward. A great many of the farmers complained about the bad way in which the pens were put up, and they had asked him to bring the m-tter forward. There was a lot of waste ground in High street, not used for anything particular, alJd on to which the cattle went on fair days, and if farmers were adnwd to put their sheep there, it would be a great benefit to them and no harm to anybody else. It was a good place to show the sheep, and as they useo to allow the pens to be put down in High-street, he moved that the Brard allow the farmers the privilege of i putting pens there for the next three fairs. It would b? an Mperimant, and no damage would be done, provide^the place was cleaned as soon as the sheep were ouii Mr Evan Ashton seconded. MR-JD. Owen supported. If there was any benefit for the poor oppreesod farmer it w»» h gCi time he should have it. It would ba a considerable advantage t the farmers to tthow their sheep on that side of High-street, where they used to be. It could be tried as aa experiment for the next three fairs, and it would be no detriment or inconvenience to anybody. ?i(f',¡Coolí:. afd every member ot the Hoard was willing to do anything in tht:ir power to ass st the farmers in every possible way. He thought, however, it would be a great pity if the sheep werM brought again itrw the High-street. He would rather see the traffic in the Back-lane stopped, and the whole of the road ntilised for penning sheep. Mr Ellison agreed with Mr Cooke that the Board W&tI witifng to help the farmers, especially in these times of depression, If High-street were big enough to pen aH the sheep he should be favourable to the mo ion. but he thought if it were a-N-psed there would be a certain amount of favouiiti-m, if some laheep- were, ikilowed to be penned there and not others. • U:>• ler the circumstances it wou'd be better to at liae the whole of the Back-lane, whicli was one of his former schemes. Mr Francis contended that the sheep would not do Iny more harm to High-stieet than did the cattle. There w-tk no question that the sheep showed up to better advantage in High-street than B ck-lane. Messrs. W. Lewis, C. Morgan, and T. es also supported Mr Ellison's suggestion, Fine, ultimately Mr Oavid Lewis accepted the amendment, it being open to him, if the experiment did not work satis- factorily, to bring the matter up again at the next meeting. Mr A. S. Cooke then brought up the question of clearing, away the di,t consequent upon holding the sheep fair. At the Victoria Hall meeting, he said, it was stated that the Board aniic pated earning fr,,rn the sheep pens .£70 or .£80 ner year. Did not the Board think they might purchase the pens and take the profit that would accrue with the tolls? If the Board had to e'ean the stieets after each fair, and a few tradesmen of High-st-eet got ail the profit, what sense c()uld there be ? Itse&med a most nufair thing. He did not see why the Local Board should not. become owners of the pens, iind then they could, while making a profit, make a reduction in the tolls. Mr Francis: If we place the p*rs down the centre of the Back Lane who is going to rec ive the tolls ? f'he Chairman I ought to be entitled to half. Mr Fcfcreis And you would hand it over to the Local Board? The Onwirman With pleasure. Mr T. Jones said theie were plenty r,f persons who would tak» the pens from the Local B. a-d and give them a good sum for the privilege of put ting them down. The Chairman pointed out that before the Board eanld buy the penf, or levy tolls, there would have to be a tneeting of ratepayers. It wis decided to allot spaces f r the sfceop pena in the Bank Lltne. the work being left in the r ands of I the Street Committee and the Surveyor; F, nd it was also ordered that the pen-holder* ba tsaed to clean the streets after thy fair was over.