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CAERSWS RURAL COUNCIL. Mr Joseph Davies presided over the monthly meeting of this Authority at the Workhouse on Wednesday after the Guardians had completed their business. PROPOSAL TO SEPARATE OFFICES OF SURVEYOR AND INSPECTOR. Mr Thomas Jones, according to notice of the motion, proposed that the minutes of the Council of the 17th and 23rd 'May, 1905, dividing the dis- trict into two divisions and combining offices of Surveyor and Inspector for each division and fix- ing of salaries be rescinded, and he had also given notice to move a further resolution on the matter. Mr Jones referred to the amalgamation of the orticea fi va years ago, and said that this was only an experiment, and the seriousness of the question of the Caorsws water supply and the insanitary conditions of many of their dwellings made it necessary that they should change the system under which they were operating at the present time. After the amalgamation of the offices five years ago they had lost a sum of .£60 a year, as the Local Government Board had not sanctioned the appointments of the Inspector, and therefore did not refund to them half of the salaries. The Local Government Board had all along emphasized the importance of appointing one man to discharge the duties of Sanitary Inspector. If they did this it would mean that they would pay say X140 to the Jnspector and X140 to the Surveyor for the district that would total X280, but they would get back .£70, reducing the amount to .£210, which would be .£10 to the good as the total salary was now X220, It was di ult for one man to occupy both positions, as thefjurveyor had to secure the help of the tenants ana landlords to assist in haulage, etc., and in the capacity of Inspector he would have to send in notices threat- ening those very same gentlemen. It was placing the officer in a very embarassing position. One man could not possibly have his mind concen- trated upon totally different duties at the same time, consequently one of them must suffer. Is might be said that one man could not cover the whole district. In answer to that he would say that it was done by nne man who could not cycle. The late Mr Edmunds, father of Mr Vaughan Edmunds did the main roads as well, and did them as well as they were done to-day. The offices were now carried on under great difficulties and he was sure the dwellings of their villages and the pollutions that were allowed to go into the water supply of the villages would be much improved if they put more authority in the hands the Surveyor. The Local Government Board, who was the ultimate authority in public health administration, refused to sanction the present arrangements, and the sooner the better they realised the futility of carrying on under the present condition. If they appointed one man to the office of Inspector he would be more powerful, and have more authority behind him. At the present time the office was merely a farce. Mr J. P. Francis suggested that the matter, being an important one, should be referred to a committee. Mr T. Jones You have had the matter under consideration since the issue of the agenda. Mr Price Pugh, after some waiting, said that be was on the Board when it was altered some four or five years since. The Chairman: Are you going to second Mr Jones ? AS PRACTICAL FARMERS. Mr Pagh Yes, I am seconding the motion. He always felt that the change was not for the benefit of the Council. He was convinced that it was not beneficial for the ratepayers, nor for the thorough discharge of the different offices, combined as they were at present. When a man's mind was set on two things it could never set so well as if set on one. and he believed it was not as it should be, that one man should be Surveyor and Inspector. It had been said that the surveyor had a good deal more mileage to cover now, bnt he would be able to see. whether the work had been done by going over the roads. They, as practical farmers, could not follow their men every day, but when they passed over the ground and saw what they had done, they were able to judge whether the men had done a day's work or not. Their surveyors could not follow the men every day; he did not know that they saw the surveyor in his parish any oftener now than under the old system, but he could see on his rounds whether the work had been attended to. He thought it would be better for them as ratepayers and officers and the whole district at large to do away with the present system, and adopt again the old one. Mr Edmunds did the whole of the roads under the old system. He thought it would be a decided improvement to change in the way suggested. They should have a sum of money to divide between the officers or the ratepayers as they thought fit. The Chairman said that Mr Davies was paid £ 80 as sanitary inspector, and Mr Edmuuds paid .£160 as surveyor. That made £ 24:0. Mr David Lloyd asked if the Clerk could tell them how high a salary they could give the inspector and get the half allowed by the Ex- chequer ? The Clerk referred to the legal books arranged on the table, and said that in an urban area the Act said that no less a salary than .£20 should be paid to a sanitary inspector. There was no refer- ence to rural areas as to the amount th3y could pay. The Chairman: They sanctioned Mr Davies' appointment at .£80. I do not know whether they were prepared to do it to-day. Mr David Lloyd: This is an important change, and they should get all the information they could as to the matters concerned. Possibly their officers would be asking for an increase apart from this thing, and they must prepate to meet these emergencies. The Chairman said that he was in the minority when the change was made, bat the seconder of the motion now, voted for the amalgamation then (laughter). Mr Pugh: I was in favour then of retaining Mr Davies. Mr Whitticase suggested that the matter should be deferred for a month. A SERIOUS POSITION AT CAERSWS. Mr Thomas Jones said that the seriousness of the Caersws water supply and the pollution of the wells, and so on, were urgent matters. There bad nothing been done in the way of sanitation or hygiene of any kind, and it was incumbent upon them as councillors to move in the matter. Mr Whitticase: It will not be very long delayed by postponing it for a month. I Mr Jones: This is the critical time with the water supply. Mr Whitticase moved that the matter be deferred for three months. Mr Richard Evans said that he was in favour of the rejection of the motion or the postpone- ment of the matter. Mr Jones advanced several reasons for the change. One reason was that they should by getting a grant for the sanitary inspector, raise the salaries to .£280. Mr Jones That is only a suggestion. Mr Evans said that he believed if they got a grant it would come practically from the pocket of the same ratepayers. The grants were given by the County Council. The Clerk, on being asked, said that the grant came out of the county fund, and debited to the exchequer contribution. Therefore they got it from the National Exchequer. After the County Council Act the amount was paid through the County Council. He believed the amount came from the licenses of the county. Mr Evans, continuing, said that another argu- ment for the change was that if the work of the Surveyor could be done effectually by Mr Edmunds, the late surveyor, surely it could be done now. Everyone of them could say that it was not done effectually. That was one of the reasons why they wanted the change. Mr Edmunds was under a disability, and an active man could not superintend the whole district adequately, and they could not expect one man to do the work effectually. Under present arrange- ments, even, their Surveyors were not able to visit places often enough, and surely if they covered the whole district they would not be able to do so. He seconded the amendment to post- pone the question for three months. On a vote being asked it was found that Mr Price Pugh, who seconded the motion, voted for the amend- ment. The Clerk: Didn't you second the motion, Mr Pugh ? Mr Pugh: Yes. The Clerk: If you withdraw your seconding the motion falls through. Mr PughVI do not withdraw my seconding, but I agree to it being postponed for three months. Mr Pugh then dropped his hand, and the voting counted as follows: For the amendment 13. for for the motion three. The Chairman declared the -amendment carried. A QUESTION OF BYE-LAWS. Mr Thomas Jones then further moved that bye- laws be adopted for the district for scavenging r and cleaning, and t're prevention of nuisances. | There was no doubt, he said, that they needed to strengthen the hands of their Inspectors, and, unless they supported them, there was no possi- 1 bility of their insisting on the cleansing of any < premises. He moved that they adopt bye-laws. Mr Lloyd seconded. Mr Richard Evans objected to the motion, as they could not make bye-laws that could apply to all the district. Bye-laws required in Caersws and other villages would press unduly hard on the rural districts. Mr Price Pugh also opposed the motion. He said that they on the top of the hills had plenty of air, and didn't require such stringent bye-laws as in the more populous places. He was always careful to keep the powers of the inspectors limited. It was decided to form a set of bye-laws by 13 votes to two. A committee, consisting of the Chairman and Vice-Chairman, Messrs T. Jones, David Lloyd, Richard Evans, Thomas Whitticase, and J. T. Francis, was then appointed to consider the matter, and the Clerk was instructed to write the Local Government Board asking their sanc- tion to the adoption of the bye-laws and a copy of draft bye-laws. FINANCES. The Clerk reported that the balance in the treasurer's hands was .£513 Is 8d and that the total of the arrears from the various parishes was .£299. Bills and accounts were presented and the report was adopted. EXTRAORDINARY TRAFFIC— WHAT IS IT ? The Clerk reported that he had had some correspondence in regard to the extraordinary traffic on the Glynbrochan Road, Llangurig, Mr Hickman had written agreeing to pay X3 without prejudice. The Council's claim of .£11 was really 25 per. cent. of what the timber hauled over the roid was worth. It was also stated in the corres- pondence that the hauling bad been done by a timber waggon with five inch wheels and three horses, and that the loads were no heavier than 37 cwt. each. Mr David Lloyd What constitutes extraordin- ary traffic ? The Clerk said it was hard to say. It depended on the district to a great extent. It was stated that Messrs P. Thomas Parry and Co., the buyers of the timber, would fight the case, as they had a son who was a barrister and they could fight it for nothing (loud laughter). The matter was adjourned until the next meeting.







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