Skip to main content
Hide Articles List

4 articles on this Page

University College of Wales,…


University College of Wales, Aberystwyth. DEVELOPMENT OF TECHNICAL EDUCATION. AN IMPORTANT DEPARTURE. THE NEW FACULTY OF LAW. The half-yearly meeting of the Court of Govern- ors of the University College of Wales,Aberystwyth, was held on Friday, March 29th, at the Shire Hall, Llandilo. Lieutenant General Sir J. Hills-Johnes was voted to the chair in the absence of both the president and vice-president, and there were also present Principal T. F. Roberts, Miss Catherine Davies, Llanelly; Mr D. J. Saer, Aberystwyth; Mr R. E. Hughes, H.M.I.S., Swansea; Mr Owen Price, Nantyrharn, Brecon Prof. Walter J. Evaus, Pres byterian College, Carmarthen; Mr John Lewis, Car- marthen; Mr J. Lloyd, Penybank, Carmarthen Mr W. N.Jones, Ammanford Mr John A. Doyle, M.A., Crickhowell Mr W. S. Miller, Brecon Prof. J. W. Marshall, Aberystwyth; Mr Owen Owen, M.A., Chief Inspector, Central Welsh Board; J. Lloyd Morgan, M.P. Rev J. Bowen Jones, M.A., Ll.D., Brecon; Mr Charles E. Howell, Welsbpool; Sir Marteine Lloyd, Bronwydd Mr Hugh Lewis. M.A., and Mrs Lewis, M.A., Newtown Rev Lewis James, Narberth; Mr L. J. Roberts, H.M.I.S., Rhyl; Dr A. Emrys Jones, Manchester; Mr D. E. Jones, B.Sc Cardiff; Mr Edgar Jones, M.A., Barry and Mr Mortimer Green (registrar). A FRIVOLOUS OBJECTION. The Registrar read letters from the Clerk of the Privy Council objecting on technical grounds to the special statute for-giving effect to the alterations in the Charter agreed upon by the Court. The objection raised was that clause 46 had not been complied with, which required one year to elapse between the passing and confirming of any alteration in the Charter. Unfortunately, the meetings of the Court were held on the same date every year, and thus only 364 dayk had elapsed, which the Privy Council considlredMid not fulfil the requirements of the Charter. The alterations would, therefore, have to be postponed for two years, and the same process again gone through. The Registrar ex- plained that the alterations were intended to give County Governing Bodies, District Councils, etc., representation on the Court, these bodies having been formed since the Charter was first drawn out. TECHNICAL EDUCATION. Copies of the printed proceedings of the confer- ence on technical education between represent- atives of the Council of the University and repres- entatives of the County Councils of Cardigan, Carmarthen, Merioneth, and Montgomery were sub- mitted to the Governors. Therein it was stated that the committee appointed to consider modification of the Principal's scheme for establishing a school of dyeing, weaving, and textile design having pres- ented their eport, wherein by the omission of the provision for practical instruction in weaving, the total estimated cost of the scheme was reduced to E300 per annnm, it was resolved that the scheme as modified be warmly recommended to the County Councils for a trial of at least three years, and that copies of the scheme be circulated among members of the County Councils of the affiliated counties. Also that an appeal be made to the counties of Radnor, Brecon, Merioneth, and Pembroke, to co- operate with the counties included in the scheme. The Principal in the course of a statement said one of the' objects of the conference was that of trying to make some provision for the application of science to the wool- len industry in Wales With the sum of E300, contributed'by the joint counties, it was estimated that the College would be in a position to appoint an expert instructor in dyeing,whowould spend the bulk of his time in giving extension instruction in the centres where the industry was carried on in those three counties. Ten weeks of his time would, however, be spent in a short course on lines similar to those now given in agriculture, to be given in the College, probably in the months of May, June, and July. The students who would thus attend the short course in dyeing and textile design would have the advantage of being able to work in the chemical department of the College, and of actually handling the special apparatus for dyeing, which would be obtained for the laboratory. During the whole of the rest of the year he would be engaged in going from centre to centre, giving instruction, demonstrations, and holding classes for periods of a fortnight. Of course, the same district might engage his services more than a fortnight, and he might be within reach of the same group of villages for six weeks. The plan would be very much the same as that adopted with the travelling dairy school, and the iustructor would give instruc- tion in dyeing, such as could be given, and as was already given by such instructors, who travelled from place to place without the aid of a laboratory. He could not go into details, but lie believed that profitable instruction of that kind was given in dyeing by experts of that kind. He believed one attended in Glamorgan some time ago under the Glamorgan County Council for a period of about a month in the summer of the year before last. By means, therefore, of the com- bination of the extension instruction and the short course given to the best students from the different localities they thought the young Welsh weavers would have an elementary instruction in the prac- tice of dyeing which would be very valuable to them The twelve weeks College instruction would not be given merely to chemistry, but also to the elements of drawing and textile design. They had already a qualified art instructor at the College, and he, with theassistance of a practical weaver engaged for a short period for the purpose, would be able to give instruction first of all com- mencing with the elements of drawing, and apply- ing them gradually to the actual work ot tfte weaver. The financial part of the scheme had been considered with the view to the strictest economy, and the sum of P,300 mentioned was estimated to cover the entire cost, not only of the instruction—the payment of the stipends o ^e expert and the instructor in drawing and design- but also to cover the expense of the maintenance of the scholarships which were to be given to the students who attended the short course of twelve weeks at the College. It would be at the option or a County Council whether to give the bulk of its contribution to the iocal extension work or whether to give it to the short course at the College. Their suggestion was that while the bulk of the grant should be given to extension instruc- tion tney should be given in each case also a similar provision toward the sending of the puplls to this short course. Their hope was that in this way, by co-operation between the three counties— and he thought it was practically hopeless to beable to do much without such co-operation—to be able to give an impetus to the woollen industries in Wales. He was glad to think already in some districts there was considerable activity in the woollen industry. The purely characteristic Welsh industry was one that scientific methods ..J were very applicable to. No sound progress COUlU be made without a knowledge of the elements of art and chemical science, and, therefore, it seemed their bounden duty, as far as they could, to help it. He would suggest that if the Court approved of the proposal, a resolution might be passed commending it in the strongest manner to the County tCouncils. The representatives present at the confer- ence expressed their agreement in it, and they would ihave the duty of commending it to their respective County Councils and Technical Instruction Com- ,mittees. But there was no doubt that the opinion .of this Court as a representative body would carry weight with the separate County Councils and Technical Instruction Committees, and therefore, help them to carry the scheme into execution. He -metitione(i particularly the County of Carmarthen, because it was the most important of the counties to which they looked for help in this matter. He believed it was quite within the means of the County of Carmarthen, without reducing any of its present contributions to any other branch of technical education, to make the contribution they had asked for as its pari m juim suneme. ne was glad to say a good deal of interest in the pro- posal bad been shown by a number of people, particularly by some prominent members of the Welsh Industries Association. He thought members of that Association would be able to render further services by bringing the need for such instruction before the notice of individual members of the I county authorities. They did a great neai, ana ne believed,, intended to do a great deal for the distri- bution of these goods, but the Welsh Industries Association, owing to the necessities of the case could not do very much towards the educational basis of progress in thisjmatter. This was a matter -for the public authorities, and also for Aberystwyth as the seat of the University College, whicn wa 1 placed in the most central position as regards the distribution of the smaller industries in ales. Proceeding, Principal Roberts said they were -several other matters touched upon at the confer- ence. but he did not intend to dwell upon those, although they were each important in their way. But he enipliasize(I this because he thought it was a matter that came home particularly to the county of Carmarthen, and he would regard it as a happy ■oonsequuiice of their first meeting in that (list riet if the school of dyeing and weaving on the modest lines they were prepared to start it could be started. THE FACULTY OF LAW. The Principal proceeded to deal with the lishment of the Faculty of Law at the Collie. The er which he lia(i already spoken of ll:i,l I do with the help the College was able to render by co-operation with the County Councils and lechiv.- cal Instruction Committees, lhis 'alter hi-.d vital bearing on the development of the College ë.'o a place of higher and University en neat1, on. Ilie--e two si,les of their work had to be earned on sioe by side and it was the opinion of the College Council that the kstudy of law was one for which Welsh students had considerable fitness, and also one which came into touch with several other studies pursued at the College, in fact, was a subject of study which could be most faithfully pursued in places where the arts subjects of education were prominently studied as at Aberystwyth. They also thought that it bad a vital bearing on the future public life of Wales. The members of the legal profession had practically in their hands the organised detailed carrying out of the various parts of the public life of the country, whether in connection with education or with the poor-law or other parts of their organised life. It seemed to him, therefore, essential to the progress of the country in the broader sense that those who were to engage in that profession should receive the broadest training possible. Already in the Con- tinental countries it was the general practice, he believed, that lawyers must first pursue a three years' course of study in a University and pass their doctorate before they were able to practice either as solicitor or counsel in those countries. It was the rule in several countries on the Continent. In England and Wales it was the exception, but he thought, having regard to the excellent system of education which they now enjoyed in Wales, that they ought to make it the rule in Wales that those who were to be solicitors and those who were to be barristers of every grade should obtain a broad, humane education. In the dratt prospectus Wlllcn had been printed in a preliminary way to be circulated to the public there was a second aim that the school would have before it. And it was prominently stated that it would be the aim of. the school to give a practical training in law. It might be thought that the theological parts would predominate, but he believed it was the opinion of the two professors-and he was glad to say the Council had been extremely fortunate in their selection of the two professors who were the first occupants of the chair of law in this University—it was their opinion that the scheme of study they had outlined was of the highest practical utility for those who wished to become. Hristers or solicitors in Wales. That had been their aim, and in carry- ing out that aim they had been able to introduce a very large amount of instruction in jurisprudence, Roman law, and in constitutional law, which provided a broad basis of theory-that broad basis, which was essential for any real practical skill in legal matters. He spoke on this question by no means as an expert, but he wished to em- phasize that it was the aim of the College in this matter not by any means to "provide a rough and z, ready access to the various tests of entrance to the professions of solicitor or of the Bar, but to approach the matter in as high and educational a spirit as they possibly could ( Hear, hear). They had, un- doubtedly, got to do with slender materials, and it had to be emphasized that this School of Law was not to be carried out without their being able to rely on the continued support of Wales in this matter. They were taking the departure for the first time in the history of Wales. It was a departure which they thought they could carry into success, but at the same time they recognised the difficulty and responsibility of it. He thought throughout all the proceedings-which had so far been successful, and they bad appointed their professors and would commence the work of the School in October-there had been a very genuine desire to contribute something towards the higher life of Wales, towards the fitting of Welshmen to engage in those difficult and responsible callings which hitherto thry had entered upon and succeeded in, but very largely without any great measure of the help that a University training was able to give them. Considering the success they hadjobtained in the circumstances of the past, considering what in England they had obtained when they were able to secure two such accom- plished teachers as they had, and considering what young Welshmen had it in to them achieve when the very best knowledge was at their disposal to equip them in these studies that were helpful towards the aim they had in view. They bad still to complete the fund for the sustentation of the school during the five years. The fund'was already something between Z400 and £ 500 per annum, and be saw no reason for anxiety as to the fund being obtained before the school began its work. There was another matter, viz., the provision of a law library. Professors Jethro Brown and Levi had in- formed him that E200 or £ 300 would be necessary to form the nucleus of such a library. He was very glad to state that Mr. Howell that morning made a generous gift to the school of a collection of law reports he bad accumulated for many years. (Hear, hear.) It would be a very valuable element in the law reading and be cf the greattst help to them. He referred to this matter in order that if any member of the Court should so desire he might know there was this need, and that they should like to be able to provide something for the library without trenching on the sustentation fund and the other resources of the College. Because they lecuguiscd it as a principle that both ia the technical development he had referred to already and also in any new departure they might venture upon such as this law school, was. that they ought not to trench on the actual resources of the College itself. Whatever help the College could give by means of its laboratories and libraries, and all that was accumulated there, the College was, of course, proud to render, but they had always to remember that the resources of the College were very limited indeed, and that the remuneration of the' professors, in consequence, was also limited. While, therefore, they did venture, and thought it their duty to venture, upon such a great development, as this school of Law, yet at. the same time in doing so they must remember that the new de- velopment. must, not be allowed to take away from what was already only barely sufficient to enable the College to carry on the very widely diversified work it was engaged in (hear, hear). The Chairman, referring to the instruction in dyeing; and weaving, said it was a 'very important matter to take up, and one which the members of the Welsh Industries Association had been trying to work out, but it was rather slack "-talk. He thought if the scheme could be brought into work- ing order it would assist Welsh weavers very much, and be a great benefit to those counties where the industry was carried on. The amount asked for to provide this instruction had been reduced to the smallest amount possible, and he hoped the Car- marthen County Council would take it up heartily. Mr "Hugh Lewis, Newtown, then proposed a resolution to the effect that the Court cordially approved of the scheme agreed upon at the joint conference held at Aberystwyth on the 7th and 8th February, and commending the scheme to the favourable consideration of the affiliated counties. Mr Lewis said since this con- ference he had mentioned the matter to several of his friends engaged in the weaving industry, and all had heartily approved of it. He felt sure they would have the support of the manufacturers in sending pupils to the school if it was established. It only remained for the County Council to vote the sum of money required in order to make the scheme a success. Several people to whom he had also spoken bad gone so far as to promise him personally some scholarships, in order that they might be able to nominate pupils to attend the school, and derive the advantages which they anticipated would be derived from this course. Rev Lewis James, Narberth, seconded the resolu- tion, and said he would like to explain why the county (f Pembroke was not represented at the conference. He had brought the matter before the Technical Instruction Committee, but they could not think of men whom they could nominate to send up to the conference, and who would take an interest in the work. He was glad to say that on the new Council there were new men, who were very likely to take a deep interest in this matter. They had in Pembrokeshire several woollen manu- factories, and there were some men—scientific men—who would be a great aid to them on this committee, and now, if they appealed to the Pem- broke County Council, they would be able to send representatives. He was glad that the College was widening the sphere of its usefulness in this and other directions. It was a very good sign of life and growth in the College. Mr Lloyd Morgan, M.P., asked whether the various County Councils of Carmarthen, Cardigan, and Montgomery had been applied to with regard to the financial aspect of the question. Principal Roberts explained that these County Councils were requested to appoint repre- sentatives upon this Conference, each of them appointed six representatives nnri prm oil nf the College appointed six representatives. The conference met, and the report submitted to the governors contained the result of its deliberation. So the proposals with regard to dyeing and weaving were proposals made bv a conference consisting as regards three- fourths of its number, of representatives actually appointed for the purpose of devising a scheme of co-operation between the County Councils and the College on this matter. These representatives, of course, could not pledge their County Councils in any way. The scheme, as drafted by the conference, was to come before the County Council, and, no doubt, would be supported by the representatives. Mr R. E Hughes asked whether, if the County Councils made these grants out of the total amount devoted for technical instruction, which was already limited, they would cripple the work in some other direction. The Principal said he doubted whether that would be so to any serious extent. They would regret it very much, because they recognised that the monies at present given towards technical education bv the County Councils were given toward:- thoroughly good objects. The great (, t industry of agriculture could not be ;i',lowed to suffer, although at the same time it should be pointed out that the woollen industrv was an adjunct of agriculture. And upon the development of the woollen industry to a great extent- the development of •toric\i!ure. because it ha.d the of bringing the people back to the land. In addition to that, he would point out that they had distributed the burden between three counties. That was the only way by which it could be carried out. They had not been able to name more than three coun- ties, because these were counties upon whose co- operation they thought there was the most claim If the scheme developed, the other counties could enter, and the burden become correspondingly less. Mr W. N. Jones enquired the amount it was in- tended to give the lecturer. The Principal replied £150, or it might be some- what more. Mr R. E. Hughes asked whether the question of applying to the City Companies had been con- sidered in this matter. These companies had funds at their disposal, and possibly they might make a grant for this purpose. The Principal agreed that the point ]ust men- tioned was one which should be clearly kept in view. It would be within the knowledge of some members of the Court that they made a few years ago an application to some of the City Companies in London, which was not successful at the time. The application, however, was backed up by as strong a concensus of opinion in Wales as ever supported any petition. Their present object was to make a start in this matter from their own slen- der resources in the hope that once having been able to make a start they would be able to secure help from these external sources. Mr John Lewis, who is a well-known woollen manufacturer at Johnstown, near Carmarthen, supported the resolution, believing the time had come when something should be done. If they followed on the lines laid down by Principal Roberts he thought the Welsh people would be ready to compete with either the English people or the Scotch and Irish people. If they wanted in- struction now it was not so much in spinning or weaving as in dyeing. If these schools were estab- lished in connection with the University he thought the time would come by-and-bye when, instead of sending their goods to Bradford, the North of England, and Scotland, they would be able to do them in their own counties. No doubt, these lectures would be attended largely by the young people, especially in the upper part of Carmarthen- shire and Cardiganshire. The resolution was then put to the meeting and carried unanimously. The Principal invited Mr Lloyd Morgan, M.P., to speak on the new Faculty of Law. Mr Morgan, responding to the request, said he rose really for the purpose of asking for a little more information on the subject than for the purpose of making a speech. Ile- would like to know whether the Principal could give them any information as to the number of students who were likely to join this Law School. He did not know whether any estimate had been made or whether it had been possible up to the present timejto make any estimate. If he understood his statement correctly, the pro- fessors—two in number—had already been appointed. He did not wish to pass any criticism at all, except to say that he thought the appoint- ment .of one to commemce would have been sufficient. He quite agreed with what the Principal bad said that it was a very important thing that young men who were going to become lawyers should start with a thorough appreciation of the principles of law. In order to get a sound lawyer it was not only necessary that a man should know the law, but it was quite as necessary that he should know the reasons for the law. It seemed to him they could never get that unless they had a thorough grounding in legal proceedings without having a knowledge of Roman law and jurispru- dence? It was open to this observation also, that it was quite as important for young men who were going to take to the study of the law that thev should have a good sound knowledge on general educational subjects as well. He proposed a resolution in the terms of Principal Roberts' obser- vations. Principal Roberts thought it woul.1 be well if a resolution were passed commending the claims of the library to the public. Mr. Lloyd Morgan said since Mr. Howell had already made a present of the Law Reports, that would considerably diminish the sum that would be required in order to establish the law library, because a set of the law reports cost a very con- siderable sum of money, and the present was really an extremely valuable one. (Hear, hear.) The Principal said the gift Mr. Howell had made did not contain the whole of the law reports, but contained them for a large number of years. He might add further that if they obtained gifts for the extent of the whole grant of £200, they would easily expend another P,500 in equipping the law library. They had already received some other gifts besides towards the library. Mr. Egerton Lane, formerly M.P. for Pembroke Boroughs, had given them a number of law books, and it was hoped others would do the same. As to the pros- pect of, the number of students, they were not. situated in a centre whe e there was a large num- ber of articled clerks undergoing the term of their apprenticeship. Therefore the school-ralthough it would do its best to help any in the Aberystwyth district—would have to rely mainly upon the number of fully-equipped University students of law. No students would be admitted into the degree course in law who had not passed the matriculation examination of the University before entering it. It would be very difficult for him to estimate in any way what the number of students would be. There were a small number of students in the College already who intended to avail them- selves of the curriculum to be commenced next October. They had had to appoint professors a considerable time beforehand because there was a great deal of work to be done by way of drawing up the curriculum of study to be presented to the College Council and finally to the University Court for their approval. Mr Lloyd Morgan now proposed that the appeal for funds now being made on behalf of the library for the Faculty of Law be commended to the sup- port of the general public. Dr Emrys Jones, Manchester, in seconding, said he was rather surprised at the lemark of Mr Lloyd Morgan that one professor would be sufficient for this great work. He thought it was the feeling of those who had to do with it that if they were going to establish a Faculty of Law at all they must do it properly, so as to be able to attract students He did nor profess to know anything about law, but he knew it was absolutely impossible to find one man to compass the whole of medicine and surgery, and no doubt quite as impossible to find one man able to do justice to the whole question of what Mr Lloyd Morgan and others found difficulty to master one particular part of, and it was absolutely neces- sary that they should make the very best possible appointments they could, and he thought they had been exceedingly fortunate in getting men, and if it must succeed at all, it would succeed with the men they had appointed. He thought this Faculty of Law should be made known in the different schools throughout the Principality, so that those young Welshman who had aspirations for certain branches of law might feel that the proper thing for them to do was to come to Aberyst- wyt b. He thought it was their duty to try and make this Faculty as successful as possible, and he hoped at no distant date that even his own profes- sion might have a look in at the different colleges of Wales. He hoped the School of Law would so succeed at Aberystwyth that they would be able to have a branch of medicine taken up as a subject of study at no distant date. (Hear, hear.) The resolution was then put to the meeting, and carried with unanimity. POWERS OF TECHNICAL INSTRUCTION COMMITTEES. The next business on the agenda was to consider, in view of prospective legislation, and with special reference to Wales-(l) The relation of science and art grants to Elementary and Continuation Schools; (2) the constitution of a Central County authority with powers to supervise over primary, secondary, and technical education within its area. The Principal said these matters were placed on the agenda as being matters of very great importance in connection with the organisation of education, more with the view that they should be discussed by the Court because it was necessary that they should arrive at any cut and dried conclusion with regard to them. As regarded the first of them, he might mention that it came before the considera- tion of the conference on Technical Instruction already referred to. In the report they would find that the conference strongly urged upon the County Councils and Technical Instruction Committees the importance ot obtaining recognition of the Tech- nical Instruction Committees as the authorities undert Art. VII of the Directory of the Board of Education. This clause provided that the Board of Education could approve of any educational county authority for the purpose of oeing the medium for the distribution of the science and art grants for technical instruction within its area. No doubt the Court knew that as regards the Intermediate Schools of Wales a provision had already been made by negotiations between the Central Welsh Board and the Board of Education which, he hoped, would be carried into effect very shortly, and would enable the science and art grants earned bv the County Schools of Wales to be distributed i by the Central Welsh Board. But the science and art grants were not limited to those grants that .Ile could be earned by the County Schools of JWales. As a matter of tact, at the present time the bulk of these grants were earned for work done in Wales with which the County Schools had nothing to do, viz.fhe work that was done in continuation schools. And it was with regard to this part of the technical instruction of Wales that the powers given under Art. VII were likely to be of impor- tance if adopted in Wajes. For instance, if the Technical Instruction Committee of the County of Carmarthen were to secure recognition under Art VII of the Directory, then the whole of the grants l earned for all continuation classes in science and art subjects would be placed in the hands of that committee for distribution. This would give the committee great power, and constitute it more or less the authority for technical instruction under the Board of Education for the County of Car- marthen. Again, if this power were obtained by the County Council of Carmarthen, then the Coun- cil would be able to encourage the formation of local committees that would organise science and art classes in villages and towns throughout the whole county. He was not certain about the County of Carmarthen, but he knew about the counties of North and Central Wales very well that the amount of grants earned from South Kensing- ton was extremely small. Out of about £ 9,000 per year earned by Wales from those grants, about Z5,000 or £6,000 was earned by the Counties of Glamorgan and Monmouth, leaving only P.2,000 or Z3,000 for the whole of the rest of Wales. It was his belief that if the county authorities of Wales responsible for technical education devoted their attention to this source of income that a fun; of P,1,000 per annum would be available in each Welsh county, whereas at the present time only a trifling amount was obtained. The fund was really one of the most important educational provisions that the United Kingdom possessed, and comparing the work done in this respect with the work done by other counties he thought it ought to be set down very highly to the credit of Great Britain that they had the provision of the Science and Art Department and the grants they made. The advance made in applied arts for the last ten years was remarkable, and was due to the help and im- pulse given by the South Kensington grants. He did not mean for a moment to defend the method by which those grants had been distributed in the past (Hear, hear). But in the fund itself he thought they had an invaluable help for the de- velopment of technical education in the towns and villages of Wales. He was not aware that there was a single authority in Wales that had applied for the power under Art. VII. The importance of it would be that then they would have an authority which had as its duty to consider the means of technical education throughout the whole area of the county as a unit. There might be no great result at the moment, but would be a far-reaching departure with regard to :the development of the future. It was time they had a Technical Instruction Com- mittee in a certain sense, but. the difference would be that it would then have at its disposal not only the amount derivable from the technical instruction rate of the residue fund, but also the fund of the Science and Art Department, which could be made a very large fund. The Principal proceeded to say that tbi& brought him to touch for one moment upon the question so much discussed for the last few weeks in consequence of what was called the Cockerton liudg-ent. That had not been decided finally from what he could see, but it was very clear that for the sake of the villages and the small towns of Wales it was extremely important that the elementary schools should be recognised as places where continuation schools were held in the evening not only under the Continuation Schools Code but also under special circumstances as to be able to earn grants from the South Kensington Department of the Board of Education. The conditions had been made so liberal and so reasonable by recent changes in the Directory that it was not now held neceSsary for every candidate to pass an examina- tion in orderthatthegrantmightbeearned. And it was because he believed there were dozensof villages even in Wales that would be able to do admirable work under this scheme that he thought it was a matter of importance. He believed it would be possible even now, whatever might be the decision with regard to this matter, if the accounts were all kept separate, for there to be a committee in con- nection with each Continuation School in Wales that could constitute itself into a committee under the South Kensington Department of the Board of Education, and that the grants from which could beavailablein connection with continuation schools. There might be a doubt on that point, but he bad no doubt or hesitation on this point that the grants ought to be available for continuation schools carried on within the premises of elementary schools in Wales. Nor could there be any doubt also that the continuation schools should be open and available not only for those under 16 but those who were also called adults He was much sur- prised and disappointed in Sii John Gorst's speech the other day, in which he made a declaration of intention that the continuation schools under the code should not be available in future for adults. He thought it of vital importance that adults I should be permitted to attend continuation schools and benefit by the instruction there afforded. After some discussion, Mr W. N. Jones proposed the following resolution:—" That this Court is con- vinced that it would greatly aid in the development of technical instruction in Wales if each county Technical Instruction Committee were recognised an authority under Art 7 of the Science and Art Directory, and strongly recommend the County Councils to apply for this recognition without delay." Mr Owen Trice seconded, and the resolution was carried without a dissentient. The other matter respecting the constitution of a Central County Authority was deferred until the next meeting. A vote of thanks to the Chairman concluded the meeting. APPOINTMENT OF CHEMISTRY PROFESSOR. At a meeting of the Council of the University held previous to the meeting of the Court of Govern- ors, Sir J. Hills-Johnes in the chair, the appointment of a successor to Dr Lloyd Snape, professor in chemistry, who has been appointed director of education for the county of Lancashire, was con- sidered. The five candidates selected to appear before the Council were present, and eventually Mr J. J. Sudborough, Ph.D., D.Sc., F.I.C., was appointed to the position. Mr Sudborough at present is senior lecturer and demonstrator in chemistry at the University College, Nottingham formerly non- fellow of Owen's College, and exhibition scholar of the Mason University College, Birmingham. AGRICULTURAL COMMITTEE. At a meeting of the Agricultural Committee on Thursday last at Llandilo, Sir J. Hills-Johnes presiding, Mr Alan Murray presented an interim report of a committee appointed to report on the various methods of co-operation in the distribution of agricultural produce. The report was exceeding- ly interesting, and it was decided that it be printed in Welsh and English for distribution amongst the farmers of the affiliated counties, and further con- sidered at the next meeting. —t —

Aberystwyth Town Council.

--- —'————_-_— MACHYNLLETH.