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CARDIGANSHIRE COUNTY GOVERNING BODY, QUARTERLY IEETTG AT LAMPETER. Principal Roberts (Aborystwvth) presided over the quarterly meeting of the Cardiganshire Counfv Governing Bodv, held at Lampeter on Wednesday. There were present, Messrs Peter Jones, C M Williams, and D C Roberta, Aberystwytb, Rev Thos James, Lhmdvssul, Ali- J Lloyd, Tregaron, Mr Thos Lloyd, New Quay, Rev Gwilym Evans, Mr J C Jones, Llanarth, Mr F.vaiw, L, Professor R Williams, Mrs Jones, Llaudyssul, with Mr H C Fryer, clerk. A M.ATTKR OF GRAVE IMPORTANCE. The Clei k reported i he receipt of the General Repoit on the Inspection and Examination of County Schools in 1898.The Chairman Perhaps the chief question arising from a perusal of the I general report is the question of the relations be. tween the Elemental- Schools and the Intermediate Schools which I think onght to receive our careful attention. One side of the question is whether we can <18 a county g(;v.rniti body do somethiug to encourage clot-er connet-tiou between Elementary Schools and the County Schools in the matter of trainiug pnp'; teachers. In some parts of Wales now pupil teachers are sent by school boards to county schools for certain periods and they return to the Elementary Schools to complete their apprenticeship as pupil teachers. I think person- ally it would be a very ereat gain to this County if something similar could be done by us. We ha/e not iu Cardiganshire the advautages of pupil teachers' centres, so far as I know, as in other counties therefore upon one hand the ground is clear of this new depart are and upoa the other hand the need is greater. I do not propose to take any practical steps in the matter to-day but simply put it for- ward for your consideration in order that those who are members of Elementary Schools authori- ties as well as Secondary Schools authorities una' v consider whether it is not possible to provide for thi^ in i heir own locality. I feei itire ti.:tt if s,)nie- thing of the kind is nor done elementary teaching itself will be the gi-e:trest the ablest ¡ boys and girls will proceed from the .Elementary SI-LIoois to the Secondary Schools as holders of scholarships and only those of Jesser abili: y will remain to enter upon an apprenticeship as pupil teachers. I do not know of any question really more important and urgent than this question.— Mr Jenkin Lloyd (Tregaron) was not prepared to propose anything but he knew that some schooltl had suffered already and it was high time they did sor.iet,iiit,.L,Tiie Chairman said if they were agreed it might be an advantage to the local authorities if thev expressed some general opinion upon the question. lie did not think thev ought to force it upon localities. They might pass a resolution something as follows :—" That this Body is of opinion that it would be of great advantage to the county if some system were put into operation wherebv pupil teachers would have the advantage of education in county schools." — Mr J. C. Jones (Llanarth) suggested that the Chairman should draft a circular which the Clerk could send out, pointing out to school authorities the ad vantages of such a system in the way of better equipping the pupil teachers for their work.—The Chairman believed with Mr Jones that the school authorities had not realised the importance of this matter.— Mr Peter Jones (Aberystwyth) seconded Mr Jones's proposal that the Chairman drafra circular to be sent out to the different educational authorities.— The proposal was agreed to. DISTRIBUTION OF SURPLUS FUNDS. The Clerk said that the Charity Commissioners had written agreeing to the £ 1,035 19s 4d, balance of the building fund, being distributed amongst those schools which had expended upon the school buildings the sum they were required to apply to that purpose under Schedule IV of the scheme. Subsequent to the receipt of that letter he had asked the Treasurer to sell out the stock in which the money was invested, and the sum now reached XI,155 10s 7d (hear, hear). They owed a debt of gratitude to their Treasurer, because under his care and the result of the enhanced value of the stock, no less a sum than £ 511 13s was profit (laughter and bear, hear). Balance sheets had been received from all the schools, with the exception of LlandysBul, and upon their examination it was found that the schools had expended the sum of money required of them so that now came the question upon what basis distribution should be made.- Mr J. Llovi proposed, and Mrs Jones (Lland yssul) seconded, that the basis be that of popul-ation.Air C. M, Williams: What was the basis upon which the building fund grant was mad" ?—The Clerk Upon the basis of accommo- dation. In some cases the extent of the accom- modation had been considerably modified.—Rev Gwilym Evans (Aberayron) asked upon what basis the grants were made ?--The Cleik Upon the population, because it was supposed that the num- ber of children would follow.-For the informa- tion of Professor Williams (Lampeter) the Clerk explained that the money was the surplus of the building fund funded upon customs and excise con- tributions for tive financial years. It was supposed that the county would only receive £ 6,000, but rather more was received, and this surplus had been invested producing X500 and interest which was the sum for distribntion.-Profe--sor Williams asked if the money had been capitalised and the interest paid into the general fund how the interest would have been apportioned amongst the different schools.—The Clerk replied that if certain things had been done no doubt the interest would have been divided upon the basis of population.—Mr Peter Jones said that the principle upon which the money had hitherto been shared was upon the basis of accommodation, and the same principle governed the grants to the Elementary Schools where the grant was made per head. He proposed that the money be distributed according to the basis of accommodation.—Mr J C Jones seconded it. He did not think that it was right to divide it upon population because it was to him a dog in the manger policy. It was just possi- ble that in the future some of the schools would have to increase the accommodation, and if there was any more money toshs.re (a laugh) he would support, a proposal in favour of sticking to the basis of accommodation.—Rev Gwilym Evans asked if the number of pupils was equal to the accommo- dation— Mr Peter Jones You have to provide the acccmmodation. You call upon us to provide 250 pupils and we are asked to contribute according to the number of pupils.— Vfr J Lloyd o;ïd that it was well know that the larger schools were furnishing more cheaply than small ones.—-Mr Peter Jones said acoorrliug to the figuiesit was not so.Ir C M Williams supported the amendment andexpressed surprise hat Mr Lloyd should propose any basis rather than that upon which they had flcted already. After what had taken place in the psst he asked if it was fair to turn round and take whatever mean advantage one or two districts might have and. differ from the rule laid down in the scheme. He ventured to say that upon reflection Mr Lloyd would withdraw his proposal —(laughter)—and adhere to the scheme. He knew him to be always anxious to be fair and just—(laughter)—and would not initiate a basis which would be unfair. There had been no dispute up to ti e present time, the members had worked well together and done all they could to advarce education in the county, and there had been no attempt to do what was not fair and honourable. He hoped that the Committee would have some regard for honour and reputation by adhering to the basis already adopted.—Mr J. Lloyd said Mr Williams had forgotten to say that they had paid everything promised under the scheme to Aberystwyth, and this sum had accrued owing to the money belonging to Trogarou left in the hank (laugh t-ii C. M. Williams said it was nothing of the kind. If they had shared the policy of others they would have reduced their numbers, and the building fund subscriptions would be less. Having regard to this, he appealed to members to do justice.—Professor Williams sup ported the motion and described the demands of the supporters of the amount us unreasonable.— Mr D C. Roberts said there was nothing unreason- able i" dividing the money according to the wav adopted in the case of the original sum. He asked them individually why they should divide this money in a different way. He took it that none of them wish- ed for the money simply becauielof that, but because of the expense gone into over the schoolf. Aber- ystwyth had expended 900 more than provided, whilst Aberayron, Cardigan, and Tregaron reached about X60 each. He trusted they would take a reasonable view and apportion it in the same way as hitherto.—A vote was taken find six voted for the amendment, included in the number being the Rev Thomas James.—Mrs Jones I am afraid you did not understand, Mr James.—The Rev Thomas James Oh, no; I think we had better keep to the old system (much laughter).—Five voted for the motion, and the amendment was therefore declared carried.—The Clerk will at once take steps to apportion the money. TRAVELLING TEACHERS. The Chairman referred to the question of ap- pointing travelling teachers and said that the sub- jects which hud occurred to his mind were cookery, laundry work for the girls, and manual work for the boys. The three schools concerned were Aber- ayron, Tregaron and Aberystwyth, Cardigan and Llandyssul sharing the services of the travelling teacher appointed by the counties of Pembroke and Carmarthen. He estimated that they would want £ 250 with which to pay the salaries of two teachers, and for £ 103 of this sum they might look to the Technical Instruction Committee of the County Council, the various schools paying for the materia and appliances.—Mr Peter Jones said that at Aber- ystwyth they were obliged to crowd out drawing, and the boys were given home lessons which took them two hours each evening. He feared that the work already taken in hand was ample, and favoured cooking legsons being taken in the Elementary Schools, leaving the question of travel- ling teachers in abeyance for a year or two.— The Rev Gwilym Evans said Aberayron's cookery kitchen awaited the teacher.—Mr C. M. Williams moved that it be referred to the Committee to make enqniries by the next meeting.—The Chair- man said that the matter was more urgent than some of the members thought, and they could not have cookery classes in connection with every Elementary School.— Mr J. Lloyd and Mr C. Jone3 supported the suggestion for having a teacher.—Mr Lloyd seconded the proposal of Mr C. M. Williams, which was agreed to. ABERYSTWYTH SCHOOL. A letter was read from Mr Sam Evans, clerk to the Aberystwyth Local Governing Body, enclosing a resolution passed by the members requesting that some modification of the scheme should be made converting the girls' department of the Aberyst- wyth School into a separate girls I school under a responsible head mistress, who woild receive the capitation grant for each girl pupil arranging for an exchange of teachers in the two schools, who would be under the control of the local Governors. -Atr Peter Jones, in moving the resolution, said that the system was found to act very well in Montgomeryshire. He added that there was a tendency at present to place women on an equal footing with men.—The Chairman Are we going to ask that this should apply to all schools in the county?—Mr D. C. Roberts Yes.—Mr Peter Jones If they don't want the power they need not exercise it.—The Chairman suggested that it be left to a small committee.—Mr Jones and Mr Roberts said that they were agreeable to that.— Prof. Williams moved that the matter be deferred until they had a more definite proposal before them.—The Rev. Gwilym Evans seconded.—ill" I). C Roberts: ft would be interesting to know what is the: defiuite information you require.— Professor Williams To point out clause by clause. —Mr D. C. Roberts We do so in this one.—Mr Peter Jones: You can get nothing more definite than tke proposal.-Rev. Gwilym Evans Does it mean a reduction in the salary of the Head Master ?—Mr Roberts I consider such a question an insult to the Local Governors.—Rev. Gwilym Evans The reason I asked the question was be- cause we have a voice'in the salary.—Mr Roberts So you have not it is fixed by the scheme —Rev. Thos James Aberystwyth people know what they want better than we do.—Mr C. M. Williams: The local managers have worked the School for two years and ought to know what they want. A vote was at length taken and the request of the Aberystwyth Governors was acceded to. EXCISF. CONTRIBUTIONS. The Clerk reported that a sum of £ 461 was in hand and he was instructed to apportion it amongst the schools.

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