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BOARD OF GUARDIANS. MONDAY. Present Mr D. Lloyd (vice-chairman) presiding, Mr Bireham (Inspector for Wales), Messrs R. Rowland, David Jones, Hugh Hughes, B. E. Morgan, J. P. Thomas, John Jenkins, T. E. Salmon, Thomas Jones, Lewis Richards, T. R. Morgan, Hugh James, J. B. Morgan, W. A Miller, Evan Richards, James Jones, William Mason, Thos. Powell, David Davies, E. J. Evans, John Jones, with Mr Hugh Hughes, clerk, Mr David Davies, assistant clerk. VISITOR'S REPORT. Mr Bireham reported that he had inspected the Wc- house on Saturday, June 6th, and he found it clea.i and in good order. Some improvements in ventilating the labour cells should be provided now that the vagrants work in them all day. MASTER'S ITEPORT. The Master reported that there were 36 in the House as compared with 47 during the correspond- ing period of last year. Vagrants relieved during the past fortnight 43 as against 54 during the same period of last year. OL'T-RELIEF. The following amounts have been paid in out- relief during the past fortnight: Per Mr. John Jones, £ 40 Is Od to 145 recipients per Mr J. J. 3 Hnghes. 142 6s 6d to 210 recipients; per Mr J. Morgan, X44 3s Od to 146 recipients. A RUSSIAN OUT-CAST. The Master reported that Amelia Ventre, a young Russian woman, was admitted into the House upon the order of Mr John Jones, relieving officer.-The officer said that she was quite destitute, and the owners of the Countess of Lisburne steamer had promised her a free passage to Bristol, where she had some friends to whom she could go.—The Master said that she was a vagrant, and had been staying at Tregaron. Machynlleth, and Aberyst- wyth.Mr B. E. Morgan asked if the fact that she was a Russian—a foreigner—made a difference.— Mr Bircham: Oh, no, if they are destitute. The usual course is to communicate with the relations. THE LABOUR CELLS. Mr. Bircham said that in hot weather the labour cells were almost unfit to put people in for the whole day and some means of ventilation should be made. A sliding door could be put in the door and it should be so provided that it would not be a source of annoyance in the winter. There was no ventilation of the cells and the stone dnst lingered in them and with a little trouble an improvement could be made.—Mr. Salmon believed that those cells had been constructed many years and it was singular that the recommendation should be made after so many years. He had visited the cells and found that there was plenty of ventilation in the place where the stones were put, and the tramps were not in them all day.—Mr. Jenkins ob- jected to any ventilation being put in the top of the door because it would have the tendency to cause the stone dust to rise and fill the lungs of the vagrants.—Mr. Bircham said that be wanted some- thing to be practicable, and it would cost but little. The tramps used to be kept in the cells for three hours at a time. Mr. B. E. Morgan asked Mr. Jenkins to attend the meeting of the com- mittees and give them his advice (laughter.) THE PAST YEAR'S WORK. Mr. Bircham said he must apologise for not being able to come around and visit them more frequently. It was always a very pleasant place to come to, but he had no time to attend those places where his presence was not actually required, and where things went on fairly well. He was now making his annual visit, and the Guardians would be glad to hear that they still retained a place in front of the other Boards. He had not been able to issue his returns of pauperism for Wales, but he might tell them that they maintained a very high place in the 53 Unions of Wales and Monmoutbshire-in the first 10 he hoped they would turn out when the returns were issued. The pauperism of the Union, taking the population of 1891, was 2'7 per cent., and the indoor was going down, there being only 36 inmates in the House, and he must say that the ont-relief was not creeping up. If the in-door relief was going down and the out-door relief was increasing, he would have something to say about emptying the House in the way it was now being done. He was disarmed in commenting upon the small numbers in that union workhouse when he found that it did not entail a correspond- ing increase in the list of out-door poor (hear, hear). This workhouse was one of those places from which they could banish all ideas of cruelty in putting people there (hear, hear.) There were comfortable rooms and they bad every kind of reasonable appliance in the workhouse to make people comfortable, at all events considering the class from which they came. Therefore they did not want to deter from ordering the workhouse when they thought they ought to do so. There was a great dislike to come into any institution, good, bad, or indifferent, where there was anything like confinement, and it was this sort of dislike that they had to come into the workhouse. It was all very well to talk about homes but there were some homes that were miserable places existing in filth and destitution. He did not mean to say that they had any of them of course. The House should be offered to those persons who applied for out- relief whose houses were not fit to live in; but he should like to see houses made that were fit for the people to live in instead of providing palaces for people to live in at the cost of the ratepayers (hear, hear). Of course they had no power to insist upon these improvements in the dwellings of the poor but they must not allow places utterly devoid of sanitary requirements to be subsidised by a miserable dole of out door releif. The decrease of the numbers in the House made it all the more difficult for the master to carry on the work of the House and he hoped they would look upon the list of out-door paupers and say conscien- tiously if there were any upon the list that ought not to be in the House. He meant paupers who were destitute through their own folly and indul- gence. From his abstract he found that there were 393 paupers under the heading of old and infirm and that meant anything. Out of these there were 42 widows and 113 children are all those 42 widows bringing up their families in the way they ought to do. If they were not being brought" up as they ought to be it became a ques- tion whether they could not be brought into the House. The children were out of the House altogether and there were only four little boys there and they bad consequently abolished the office of industrial trainer. He did not want to see the number of children increasing in the Workhouse, but he thought that the life of children in the House was considerably better than the life of I those children who played about the gutter and were neglecoed by their parents. He did not tirnk that there would be any difficulty in ordering that the children of badly managed families should come into the VVorkhouse and be under the supervision of the Guardians. There was also a decrease in the vagrants, and whilst other Unions reckoned their thousands in the year, they at Aberystwyth did not get any increase, and the system they had adopted he had quoted to other Unions in Wates.and no doubt they had bad many appli- cations from other Unions upon the matter. He did not want to be unduly complimentary, but he thought that they could be fairly well satisfied with their situation with regard to relief and relief administration generally. He noticed that they had 21 orphans receiving out-relief. In a Poor Law report upon Wales it was stated that there were no boarded-out children in Wales; but if they were not boarded out they were receiving out-door relief, and the Guardians were responsible for them, and they were the legal parents of the children. He hoped that some little interest was taken in the children beyond the official visits of the doctor and the relieving officer, and that they were visited by the neighbouring guardians. When out-relief was given in cases of this character a written agreement should be given that the child would not be transferred from one house to another without the consent of the Board (hear, hear). Protwbly they ■>?.»•« ;varp *hn <L 11 if mottev collected under the Poor Law rate was rot all spent on the poor. The latest local taxation return showed the amount of rates collected in one one year under the poor race for the Aberystwyth Union. The amount collected reached X12,700, and from the county fund they received £ 1,300, « hich brought up the total to £ 14,000 collected or paid into the rate funds for purposes nominally called poor rate, but of that £ 14,000 only zC6,460 was spent upon poor relief. This zE6,400 included salaries, the keep of lunatics, &c. The rest of the £ 14,000 went to other purpose. the chief of which was county rate £ 2,000, highways CI,500, School Boards X2,500, and other purposes £ 1,500, which meant all sorts of purposes, registration, legal expenses, Union Assessment Committee, parochial officers, salary of collection of rates. This £ 14,000 was equal to a rate of 13s 4d per head of the population. Of this sum 6s Id went to the poor, and the remainder, 7s. 3d., went Lo ùLhe: purposes. Speaking upon the rates that the towns- people had to bear iu addition to the oouutry people, he pointed out that residents in town had to pay such rates as district rates and borough rates -Mr Salmon said that lie was very pleased with Mr Bircham's remarks. A rntp of 2" had just been made in the town, and there was a great cry that they were increasing the rates owing to the keep of the poor, buf In- <"v,s phid that Mr Bircba m had explained otherw i&e.Mr B. E. Morgan supported Mr Salmon's remarks. WORKHOUSE MARRIAGES. On the motion of Mr B. E. Morgan, seconded by Mr J. B. Morgan, it was decided to support the Guardians of St. John's, Hampstead, in their efforts to obtain an alteration in the law relating to persons marrying after admission into the House, whereby each case would be taken on its merits.




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