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HAY HOUSING. Urban Council Censure the Vicar And Warn the Press. An extraordinary meeting of the Hay Urban Council was held on Monday evening n last, to consider the Housing Question and an article which recently appeared in the "South Wales Daily News." There were present Councillors James Cater (chairman), T. J. Stokoe (vice-chairman), James Evans, Sidney Williams, John Morgan, F. Cadinan, and E. H. Cheese, with Mr R. T. Griffiths (clerk) and Dr. T. E. Hincks (medical officer). The Chairman said that as regards con- sideration of the Housing Question, the com- mittee was arranged at the request of Coun- cillor de Winton, and as he was not there they would not be able to go on. A letter was here read from Rev. J. J. de Winton, stating that he would not be able to attend the meeting, having a previous en- gagement, but that he would be glad to sup- port any reasonable scheme that might be brought forward. Continuing, the Chairman said he hardly knew where he was when he read the vicious, inaccurate and misleading statements in the paper. Several ratepayers had suggested to him that that sort of thing should be stopped. They were being dragged before the whole of South Wales, and it was one of the worst things that could have happened for the trade of the town they would suffer in consequence of it in August. It was only a week ago that he saw Mr de Winton and begged of him to let the matter drop till their finances were better. He had hoped that he would have listened to his appeal. He (the chairman) thought the least thing Mr de Winton could have done was to have at- tended and had the matter thrashed out once and for all. He had gone through the article and there were seven or eight inaccurate statements, and others which were very mis- leading, and looked as though the Council had money at their disposal but were too dilatory to deal with the matter. Asked by the Chairman to state what be knew, Mr Evans Raid all be knew was that 'some man" went round Stanhope place and called on one of his (the speaker's) tenants named Vanghan, and questioned him. The man told Vaughan that Councillor deWinton had sent him np there. It was "Qaisty who told the man that be knew of cases of fonr or 'five families living in one bonse. He (the speaker) did not know of one house where such was OJ" easy. 10 answer to ^nations by the chairman, the Surveyor said be did not know of three families ■iviDg in one house, but knew of two. He bad never fonnd a case where there bad been three, four, or five families in one house. One oase be reported of overcrowding, but the Council gave him instructions to deal with it, and it was dealt with. On the day be went away for bis holidays he had an anonymous better saying that there was a house with 14 living in it, but when be got there be found six. The Chairman (to the Mpdical Offioer): Yoa notice the contradictions in this article of yonr report. Are they trae ? Dr. Hincks: Yes; it is incorrect. There are not 20 booses in Hay that ougbt to be con- demned. There are some four booses that I could point ont that I should advise the Council to close if there were others for the < <:oapantR to go to. The Cbairoien: If these people went into Lew hooses they would be in the same state in a abort time. To the Medical Officer Coun- cillor deWmton, in bis interview, takes oredit for having done a great deal of good in the matter of housing have not things been gradually improving for some time? Dr. Hincks: Yes, certainly; the housing in Ray is infinitely better than six years ago. The Chairman: Cou!d the Council have done any better cons-dering the finances? Dr. Hincks: I cannot go into finances, Mr Chairman. Mr Stokoe: Bot the improvement you speak of is the result of requiiements of the Local Government Board, and has been brought about with the intervention of the Council. Dr. Hitcke: That is so. Mr Cheese asked if Dr. Hincks went over houses complained of by the special direction of that Board. The Chairman was understood to say that Was before be was on the Board. The Chairman, to Surveyor How many ases of two or more distinct families have you known in one house ? The Surveyor: Really none. There may be two generations, bnt where tucb is the case there it, DO overcrowding. In the course of further discussion it was stated that the Vicar was nearly 1600 out in his reckoning for the building of 12 cottages. The Chairman: The rent was to be 3s 9d. Acoording to the article the hooseB would be a very good thing financially, which is abso. lutely wrong. Mr Cheese remarked that the Vicar said in the article that be found all the Council against him, and that be came on the Council on the bousing question, but be was there twelve months before be brought it forward. He only objected to the site the vicar put forward, as being practically oat of the town, as there were pleuty of spaces in tho town needing filling up. The Chairman: The vioar did bring forward a scheme about the second sitting of the "Council. That scheme was for each tenant to -eventually become the owner, and it was after then continuously on the agenda, but it was not dealt with as Mr deWinton was not present. As the result of giving notice a committee was appointed on the 3rd of June last year. The Scheme put forward was a porchase scheme, and the Board were unanimous. The vicar F386ys that the Council objected not only to the site, but also to the whole scheme. One Committee meeting the vicar cancelled himself. Later the Chairman said: The whole article is a tissue of inacooracy, and we shall suffer 10r it. Hay is one of the prettiest and most -attractive little towns to be found. Mr Stokoe Councillor deWinton has no -toore work to do than any of us. I wonder he saftjot find something better to do than to pat us to these inconveniences. I think he '18 guilty of a gross breach of etiquette to the Council, and I regret very much that he is not bere. Very likely he has only a few friends to entertain. Such conduct would disgrace any- one, no less the vicar cf the parish. In view 'Of the immediate cause of this meeting being held, Itbink it is a bit of cheek. He is trying to turn the tables on os. We ought to deal 1tith the matter to-night. If be wants to know anything more be must come to us. The Chairman: Are you agreed, Mr Williams? Mr Williams: I think you ought to wait and rglva him a chance of answering for himself. Mr Stokoe then read a typewritten resolution. Mr Cheese: I should not feel disposed to 'te for the whole of that. The earlier portion is quite right, but then it breaks off and goes ft»rther than I think is necessary. Mr Stokoe: Housing conditions in the town are no worse than anywhere else in Brecon- shite. The Chairman No scheme has been rejected this Council. Mr Evans wondered that the representatives did not interview the Chairman. AN EXTRAORDINARY RESOLUTION. Mr Stokoe then proposed and Mr Morgan seconded a resolution to the effect that the Council finds the said article to be grossly inaccurafp, and calculated seriously to damage the interf-htn of the town. It further finds that tbp information given by Councillor J J dpWioton, vioar of Hay (an interview with whom forms the basis of the report) is con- trbry to the official records of local bousing conditions as kept under the regulations of the Local Government Board, and that his account of the treatment of this subject by the Council is unfairly stated and inaccurate in detail, and gives an impression very much in variance with actual facts. We, therefore, in respect of the Press, give notice to whom it may concern to cease making statements in this matter which are wrong in fact and not capable of proof; and we censnre the conduct ot Coun- cillor deWinton in lending himself to an agitation which militates against the welfare of the parish of which be is vicar, and in giving information on this subject which is in part grossly exaggerated and otherwise ent:rely wrong. We add as a rider that if the Press wishes to take an interest in the housing con- ditions of Hay, its first duty is to give faithful and fair reports of the Council's discussion on thp subject, which has not been done up to the present." Finally tbere was a direction to send copies of the resolution to the Vicar and the Bishop of the diocese, amongst others. On the resolution being pat to the meeting their voted for it 6, viz., the Chairman, Vice- Chairman and Councillors Evans, Williams, and Morgan. Councillors Cheese and Cadman did not vote but expressed their approval of the first part of the reflation, and the Chair. man declared it carried. AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER FAIRS. A letter was read from Mr A J deWinton (Arosfa), to the effect that be was willing to give the Council the use of his field in Church Street for the August fair for £1 and for the September fair for 10s. If the field was not used on either occasion the charge would be 5s for each hiring, and if used in September only the charge woold be £ 1. Mr Evan Powell wrote offering the old Tompy meadow for both fairs for Xl, and if not used he woold not oharge anything. The Chairman stated that Mr Lloyd, the agent, was going to put a fence along the bottom of Coal Wharf Square and charge the same to the estate. He was also putting a pair of entrance gates. It was resolved that Mr Evan Powell's offer be accepted.

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