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THE GROSVENOR FAMILY. To the Editor of the RHYL ADVERTISER. SrR,-It is known the Duke of Westminster is a considerable land and mineral owner in Flintshire, and the following extract, cut out of the columns of a contemporary, will be interesting to most of youi readers I found pasted within the cover of an old book the following account of the Grosvenors of Eaton, which I think might be printed with some advantage, now that so many local writers are employed in rooting up the old histories of our cities and towns:—'In the third year of Henry V., Richard, parson of Eccleston, and Richard de Lymme, chaplain to the Eaton family had granted to them by John de Eton the manor of Eaton and other properties in trust; and in the same year they re-grant to John de Eton and Johanna his wife the same premises, with remainder to their law- ful issue then to Ellen wife of John de Manlegh, and the heirs of her body then to Robert and Hermon, two sons of Richard de Eton and the heirs male of their bodies, with similar remainder to John, son of William de Hawarden, and Henry son of Ralph Salisbury. In the first year of Henry VI., John, son of Richard de Eton, and Robert de Eyton joined in conveying the same premises to certain trustees, the survivor of whom, Gilbert de Salusbury, in the 22nd year of the same king settled the same upon Ralph Grosvenor and Johanna his wife, with remainder to the heirs of the body of the same Jo. hanna then to Robert de Eton and the heirs male of his body, and then to the heirs male of Henry de Salisbury. I am inclined to think the Ralph Grosvenor men- tioned above was the second son of Sir Thomas Grosvenor, of Hulme, in Cheshire, and as the 22nd of Henry VI. would be 1444, the Grosvenors have prob- ably been at Eaton since that time. The paper I am quoting from goes on thus:—"James Grosvenor third son of Ralph and Joan married Margaret, daughter of Piers Stanley, of Ewloe, in Flintshire, which Stanley had descended from the Lord Audley and a descendant of Henry de Salusbury afterwards married a daughter of the Grosvenors of Eaton and he was also a nephew to Thomas Salusbury, of Lead- brook, in Flintshire, and kindred to the Stanleys of Ewloe, descendants of the Piers Stanley above men- tioned. Gibbon Salusbury, who was appointed on the 5th of Sept., 1488, to collect the subsidy of the town of Flint, was grandson to Gilbert de Salusbury who conveyed the Eaton premises in the 22nd of Henry the VI., to Ralph Grosvenor and Johanna, his wife, and the Henry Salusbury mentioned in the deed of the 3rd of Henry the V. was son of Ralph of Lleweni, and whom ho succeeded on his death." I see on reference to Burke that the Henry Salus- bury son of Ralph mentioned in the above quotation was the fatherjof Thomas Salusbury hen of Lleweni, who by his marriage with Ellen daughter of Sir John Donne, ot Uttcinton in Cheshire, had a family of four sons, and four daughters viz :-Thomas, Henry, John, Robert, Elizabeth, Jane, Catherine and Cons- tance and seeing how so many of our Welsh families have descended from their children, it is interesting, as a piece of local news that the above paragraph should be supplemented by the following additional I statement. 1. Thomas Salusbury, married Janet sister of Sir William Griffith of Pe married Sir j -it Combermere, when the property passea into the possession of the Cottons, and continued so for several generations. 2. Henry Salusbury, married Margaret, daughter of Griffith ap Rhys of Gloddaetli, and became the founder of the family of his name which settled at Llanriader Hall near Denbigh. Lord Mostyn is a descendant of his, and I think that most of the pro- perty once held by him vested eventually in the Mostyns. 3. John Salusbury, married Lowry daughter of Robert ap Meredith ap Tudor of Bachymbyd near Ruthin, and got the estate with her and Rug near Corwen, subsequently came to his eldest son Piers by marriage to a descendant of Owen Brogyntyn. Lord Bagot eventually came into possession of the Bachym- byd estates through the marriage of one of his ances- tors to the direct heiress of John Salusbury; and Rfig passed to the Vaughans of Nannau, and is now the property of the Hon. Charles Wynne under the pro- visions of Sir Robert Vaughan's will. 4. Robert Salisbury, married Gwenhwyfer daughter of Rees Vychan, of Plas Issa, Llanrwst, and got that immense property with her. He was grandfather to the celebrated William Salisbury who published the Welsh Testament in 1567 and ancestor to the many known descendants of his name who trace their lineage back to the Llanrwst branch of the family. The estates passed by marriages, partly to the Wynns of Gwidir, and partly to the Mostyns. 5. Elizabeth Salusbury, married Hugh Conway of Brynwyrin, and numerous Welsh houses which have descended from that match. 6. Jane Salusbury, married John Conwy, of Bod- rhyddan, and our neighbour of that old place, can trace his descent from that match. 7. Catherine Salusbury, married Richard ap Howel of Mostyn, and the Mostyns of Mostyn, and of Talacre, proceed from them, as the Grosvenors of Eaton and of Halkin also do. 8. Constance Salusbury, married Pyers Stanley of Ewloe, son of the famous Sir William Stanley, who helped to set our countryman Henry the Seventh upon the throne, and the Flintshire offshoots from the match are far too numerous to be mentioned. Time the freaks of fortune the ever changing ups and downs of life's fitful chapter, have combined their forces to scatter this family, so that you may look in vain through the pages of our modern Domesday for the possessors of lands iunder the old name, throughout the whole of North Wales and I think I may say that among the descendants of the Henry alluded to in the para- graph I have quoted, the Grosvenors of Eaton probably stand alone as holding in linial succession in the male line any part of the properties which their ancestors held in the year 1444. It is a curious bit of history that, and your readers will not think the less kindly of your county member when they know he has a very fair share of Cambrian blood in his veins. My chief object however in writing this letter is to answer a question put by another writer How did the Grosvenors acquire their mineral rights in Flint- shire Mr. Pennant-no mean authority-says Almost contiguous (to Halkin) is Halkin Moun- tain a vast tract in the parish of the same manor, and in those of J Xorthop, Skciviog, and Holywell. The surface is common the mineral the property of Lord Grosvenor by virtue of a grant, made in 1634, to his ancestor Sir Richard Grosvenor knight, by Charles I. of all mines of lead, within the hundreds of Coleshill and Rhuddlan. These tracts were before set on leases for a certain term of years. A new (grant) was (made) in 1629 by a warrant from Lord Treasurer Weston, to Richard Grosvenor, Esq., Roger Grosvenor his son, and Mr. Thomas Gamul, for their joint lives, paying the usual rent, and a fine of ten pounds." The writer alluded to says—"That is how the Stuarts gave away our National treasure to their favourites," and this charge I fear is too true as a rule; but so far as Richard Grosvenor is concerned this should be said to his credit Few men suffered more for his attachment to the King than did Sir Richard; his property was sequestered, and for a time he and his family were in actual want, so bitterly had the republican party resented his services to the crown." It cannot be justly said therefore that, the Grasvenors took all they could get, and gave nothing to their benefactors in return and although the rising tide of disaffection with the past is flowing in upon us pretty strongly just now, we should try to remember that vested interests in property cannot be disposed of by the stroke of a pen and that this old shield though but" a grant has two sides to it, both of which in fairness should be looked at, however much we may be disposed to pocket other people's money for our owu gaiu. R.W.P.





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