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INCREASING COUNTY EXPENDITURE.
INCREASING COUNTY EXPENDITURE. COLWYN BAY AND THE BATING BASIS. MAINTENANCE OF MAIN ROADS. (From Our Own Reporter.) The quarterly meeting of the Denbighshire County Cuuncil was held on Friday at Iiuthin. There were pre.ent :-Mr A. 0. Evans (chair- fnan), Mr W. E. Samuel (vice-chairman), Messrs Go. Cromar, Edward Roberts, Griffith Jones, (Christmas Jones, J. Wiicoxon, Ed. Allen, T. Rogers Jones, Evan Roberts, J. M. Porter, Godfrey Fitzhugh, J. T. Millward, J. Stephen iJones, Bennett Jones, Robert Jones, E. Sey- mour Jones, D. Mac. Niooll, Geo. Bevan, J. D. STones (Bodoryn), D. Owain Williams, J. D. priffitih, Boaz Jones, John Roberts, Thos. Jonea, JIenry Williams, Gomer Roberts, E. W. Tho- mas, J. D. Jonea (Dinmael), R. A. Jones, J. W. Evans, Edward Hughes, Hugh Hughes, W. J. (Williams, J. R. Williams, E. Lloyd Jones, R. iW. Parry, Trevor Lloyd Jones, R. Myddleton (Chirk Castle), W. G. Dodd, Robert Ellis, E. W. Roberts, John Hughes, Col. Cornwallis West, Col. Mainwaring, Dr. J. ftledwyn Hughes, Dr Dd. Lloyd, with the clerk (Mr W. R. Evans), the deputy-clerk (Mr John Roberts), the county accountant (Mr R. Hum- phreys Roberts), the county architect (Mr W. D. Wiles), the treasurer (Mr Guy Conran), the Jroad surveyors (Messrs R. B. Adams and Ellis SV- Jones), the inspectors of weights and mea- sures (Messrs J. Clarke Jones and Noah Price), and the Chief Constable (Major Leadbetter). OLD-AGE PENSIONS. Prior to the meeting of the CounOy council tihe members dealt with the report of the Old- Age Pension Committee, and in reply to Mr Ed. Roberts, the Clerk stated that the salaries of the clerks to Che sub-committees would be paid !Age Pension Committee, and in reply to Mr Ed. Roberts, the Clerk stated that the salaries of the clerks to the sub-committees would be paid direct from -the Treasury. He had also to re- I port that he had been asked whether pensioners were bound to attend before a pension ofiiosr for the purposes of giving information, and "whether it was right for such official to require pensioners to attend at public houses in order to g'ive informabioil Or to receive their pension books. His reply was that a pension officer was supposed to wait on the pensioners at their re- sidence, and that it was not right to ask them to attend at public houses. THE WORDING OF A MINUTE. Mr J. M. Porter raised a question as to whether it was correct to insert in the minutes a remark to the effect that "eight only voted for the amend- ment'' in a matter before the last meeting. His idea was that if any figures were given they should be without comment. The Clork explained that in the case of a division where there was a large majority it was pot usual to give the larger number. s Mr Porter said he objected to the word "only," as there was nothing- to indicate how many were present, and it might be that the eight were the only wise men, or else that they were very foolish. It was agreed to strike out; the word "only." MAINTENANCE OF MAIN ROADS. INCREASING EXPENDITURE. THE MERIONETHSHIRE ROADS PRAISED. Mr Samuels moved the adoption of the report Ji the Wrexham Main Roads Committee. Mr Porter asked that there should be an uni- form charge made for telephone poles, which .were a great obstruction and nothing else. The Clerk said there was a unform rental throughout the county. Mr Gomer Roberts said he was very interested in the report which the Wrexham Surveyor had prepared as to the cost of the main roads. It was as follows:—"I thought it would interest the committee to know what the cost of main road maintenance throughout England and Wales was for the year ending the 31st March, 1906 (this being the last return issued). The total amount spent for the year was £2,529,137 on 27,556 miles of main roads; 4100 miles were %irban roads, and 23,456 rural roads. The aver- age cost of rural roads was J675 per mile, and t"n(- average DO at of urban main roads amounted to £ 226 per mile. The most costly roads were those of Middlesex, viz., J5556 per mile; and the least costly those of Merionethshire, viz., JE18 per mile. The. cost to the Welsh County Coun- cils for road maintenance per mile is as fol- lows :(x'larnorgan, 2202; Carmarthen, £ 56; Anglesey, £ 55; Pembroke, 253; Flintshire, £ 53; Denbigh, £ 53; Carnarvon, £ 42; Brecon, £ 37; Montgomery, £ 37; Cardigan, £ 28; Radnor, £ 27; Merioneth, £ 18; Monmouth, £104. The aver- age cost in Wales amounts to 259. The Shropshire roads cost E47 per mile, and Cheshire roads, £107. The average width of main roads in different counties varies very considerably, consequently, a comparison of the cost per mile is somewhat misleading. It would be a much fairer comparison, should the figures be avail- able, to give the cost per square yard- The cost of main roads in the Denbigh district amounts to 247 per mile, and the cost in the Wrexham district amounts to 259 per mile. The average width of main roads in the Denbigh dis- trict is considerably narrower than those in the iWrexham district. Mr Roberts eaid he could accept much that was in the report, but he did not agree with the latter port-ion (laughter)- They all realised that the cost of the upkeep of main roads was in- creasing year by year, and it would be seen by the report that the cost differed in several counties. What struck him as being singular was that. there should be such a vast difference between the cost of repairing the roads in Den- bighshire. and the cost in Merionethshire, where the work was done by contract. He (lid not say tlat it would be possible to bring the cost down from £ 53 to E13, but he did think it was a mat- ter to which they should give serious considera- tion. The report was worth considering. He was bound to say that he considered that the roads in Merionetb&bire were in very good order, and it was evident that the contract work was satisfactory, as the county had now entered into a three years' contract for the third time. As to their say that the roads were more nar- row, he would point out that a large portion of the Holyhead main road pas.9ed through Mer- ionethshire. He asked the Council to go into jBbe matter to see whether anything could be done to reduoe the cost of the Denbighshire roads. Mr J. S. Jones said he would like to know bow many yards of the Merionethshire roads Were steam rolled. Mr Gomer Roberts replied that every yard Was steam rolled. Mr J. S. Jones said that in that case the fluestion of con la-acting- was worth considering. Mr Cromar replied tihat he did not think there (Was really any comparison between the traffic oyer the Merionethshire roads and those of either Denbighshire or Flintshire- In fact there svaa scarcely a mile of main roads in those two counties which did not carry a great deal of beavy traffic. Mr Seymour Jones added that there were miles of roads in Merionethshire which had not been repaired for years, and were practioally Misused roads- Mr J. S. Jones: Then what Mr Gomer Ro- berts said as to every yard being steam-rolled is pot accurate (laughter). Mr Thomas complained that the Wrexham Committee had added £ 10 to the salary of tihe purveyor, and he protested against it. Mr Samls said it was to cover out-of-pocket expenses on work which was said to be worth I-,000, and it had been carried out by their own staff. It was money well earned (hear, hear). The report was then adopted. THE DEE BRIDGE AT LLANGOLLEN. Replies were received from the G.W.R. and the Llangollen Council as to their contributing to the cost of improving this bridge. The G.W.R. said they could not contribute other than through the rates, while Llangollen Coun- cil said they were now paying a fair share of the county expense. It was sudge-ited that there should be a new bridge built so that the old bridge might be pre- served, but the whole matter was referred to the Wrexham Main Roads Committee. INCREASE IN MOTOR TRAFFIC. It was reported that during the past three years the increases in the motor traffic in the North Wales counties was as followsVehicles registered: Anglesey, 51; Carnarvon, 106; Den- bigh, 155; Flintshire, 117; Merionethshire, 89. DECREASE OF SHEEP SCAB IN WESTERN DENBIGHSHIRE. Mr Jno. Roberta said he was pleased to say Vi&t h.re WM only scab on three farms, as 44 against 25 farms last quarter, and for the firit time they had less scab in the WVstern portion than in the Eastern part. While the Western district was getting' rid of the scab, it was in- creasing in the other part. POLICING OF LLYSFAEN AND M AEN AN- It was explained that the Standing Joint Com- I mittee had refused to agree to police Llysfaen and M ae n an for Carnarvonshire unless those parishes were transferred to Denbighshire for the purposes of the Diseases of Animals Act. A reply had been reeeivd from Carnarvonshire to the effect that the matter -,vould oriie be- fore their committee next month. The tempo- rary arrangement ended on January 31st, but the Chief Constable had undertaken to carry out the police arrangements until that meeting. Mr Gomer Roberts said it was essential that they should take a firm stand in the matter, and I the only way they could compel Carnarvonshire to take a sensible view was to bring matters to a deadlock. He understood that unless the mat- ter was settled at once they would no longer ponce those places. 0 It was decided to support the recommendation of the committee, and unless their terms are agreed to, Denbighshire will not police the places named. SALE OF FOOD AND DRUGS ACT. The Chief Constable having asked for the police to be relieved of their duties under this Act it was suggested that the matter be referred to tho Weights and Measure-s Committee. This was agreed to, Colonel Cornwallis West urging that someone should take up the matter at once, as it was of great importance. WESTERN DENBIGHSHIRE ROADS. Mr Gomer Roberts presented the report of the Main Roads Committee for the Denbigh (Western) District. He sad he was sorry to say that there was increased expenditure, but it was satisfactory to note that it was only JE166 as against J3689 in the Wrexham district (laughter and applause). That was not a very favourable comparison—for Wrexham (laughter). He would also point out that while they were able to steam roll at about 4,5d. per superficial yard in Wrexham the cost had been 5d 6-8th. All along the line they in Western Denbighshire had been able to do the work for about Id per yard less. Mr Samuels: Are your measurements correct (laughter)? Mr Gomer Roberts said he was sure they were. He wished also to point out that the committee had not been appointed to go into the tenders for carting, and he moved that the report be adopted, and also that the committee be ap- pointed. Mr Porter seconded- Mr Samuels pointed out that in Western Den- bighshire the Council owned the quarries, where- as in the Eastern end they had to buy all their stone. Mr Seymour Jones added that in some cases in West Denbighshire one-third of a cwt. less stone per yard was laid down than in East Den- bighshire (laughter). Mr Johtp Roberts said it was not true they owned the quarries. They had to buy a large quantity of stone. Mr Samuejs: We have none. Mr Boaz Jones was delighted to find there were critics on the Council who could take into account the minutest details. It was well for the ratepayers (laughter). Mr Dodd said the explanation of the increased cost was that labour was dearer in Wrexharry than in Denbigh. Mr Cromar suggested that the only way to settle the matter was to have the roads inde- pendently measured. It was decided to appoint a sub-committee to tro into the tenders for carting, and Mr J. D. Jons (Bodoryn) was added to the existing com- mittee. A CLAIM BY COLWYN BAY COUNCIL. SUGGESTED ARUITRAliON. The following appeared in the report of the Denbigh Mam iloaus Comimu-ee:—'Read—The following letter from the Urban Council, dated tne 6th January:—1 trust you will be able to ob- tain for us from the county the cheque for tlie balance of amount due on the main roads ac- count for the year ended March, 19Utf. The Coun- cil feel that it is a very great hardship that* this Council should be compeued to wait all this time for a settlement i this account, and they venture to hope, in view of the large contribu- tion from this district, that some stops will be taken to close these accounts before they are twelve months overdue. As you know full and careful investigation has been made on behalf I of the County Council, and, if I may so respect- fully, it appears to me that the Council might now close the matter.' Mr George Bevan moved, Mr Edward Allen seconded, that the County Council be recommended to offer L320 in fui4 satisfaction and. discharge of the balance of the claim for the year ended 31st March last, but this was defeated by eight votes against four. Mr Evan Roberts then moved, Mr VV. J. Wil- liams seconded, that the sum of £ 273 14s 9d be offered, without prejudice, in satisfaction of the claim- Seven members voting for and seven members voting against this proposal, and the Chairman having given his casting vote in favour of proposal, it was resolved that the County Council be recommended to offer to the Urban District Council of Colwyn Bay, without pre- judice, the sum of J6275 143 9d, in full satisfac- tion and discharge of the balance of their claim for the maintenance, etc., of the main roads for the year ended 31st March, 1908, such sum, to- gether with £1000 already paid on account being the amount allowed by the county accountant. Resolved also that the committee appointed be dissolved, and the resolution appointing it rescinded." Mr Edward Roberts said he noticed that al- though Colwyn Bay had but 4 miles of roads the sum of JB500 per mile was allowed, while Wrex- ham only had J6175 per mile. Already £1000 had been paid to Colwyn Bay on account, and yet it was propoaed to pay another £ 320 in full satis- faction of all claims. The amendment proposed was to pay £273, and the Chairman of the Committee (Mr Gomer Roberts) gave his cast- ing vote for it. Mr Gomer Roberts: Yes, for the £ 273 without prejudice. He added that he was glad the mat- ter had been brought forward, as it had been before them for a long time, and they had tried to come to terms.The view taken by the com- mittee was that JM50 would be ample for Colwyn Bay as regards their bill of £1900, but this Colwyn Bay refused to aooept, although they came down to 91330. It seemed that he, as chairman of the committee, was between the devil and the deep sea (laughter). Mr John Roberts: And who was the devil (laughter) ? (laughter) ? Mr Wilcoxson: Colwyn Bay, of course (laugh. ter), Mr Porter: And who was the deep eea (laugh- ter)? Mr Gomer Roberts: You know who the deep sea is, as you asked for B1900 for repairing 41 miles of road (laughter). Mr Porter: Well, then, let us know who the others are (laughter)? Mr Gomer Roberts said he hoped they would have pity on a poor chairman of a committee, as- he tried to do his best, and he thought it better to settle for 91200 than to go to arbitration, which Colwyn Bay was determined to do. Ho thought they had better divide the difference, but he would point out that he did not Agree with paying Colwyn Bay so much, as Llangollen had reduced their bill from JE;528 one year to £407, and he congratulated them (applause). Let them remember that Colwyn Bay had not all the traffic of the county, as Llangollen had a great deal. Mr Parry: And we have a bridge. Mr Gomer Roberts said it was a great thing to find one district reducing its expenditure on. main roads by £121. Mr Seymour Jones: Don't forget it is the Wrex- ham end (inlighter). Mr John Roberts proposed, a.mid cries of "It's carried," to delete the recommendation, as he thought they had paid Colwyn Bay quite enough, and surely £1000 for four miles was ample- Sr-me time ago Mr Gomer Roberts was II deputation with others to try and do something to settle the dispute with Col- wyn Bay, and with the full knowledge of the fact that £ 900 was considered to boo sufficient for the claim of £ im it was a pu?zle to him to know how Mr Go Roberts could give a casting vote for £ 1273. Mr Gomer Roberts said he had explained the matter, and he gave his casting vote as the lesser of two evils, as Colwyn Bay would certainly go to arbitration on the matter if they did not settle. He agreed with Mr Roberts that it was hard to pay such A. sumbut be did it for the best. Mr .John Roberts ftij he felt that sooner or later they would have to go to arbitration on the matter, and he would call attention to the pub- lic statement, of accounts from Colwyn- Bay. In that town, in 1906 they were paid £ 1326 for 4g miles of main roads, and yet their own 55 miles of district roads only coat the town 913,2. Thet case was similar last year when the main roads were put down at £ 1549- 3"!1d the district roads £ 1821. It was a question of what was fair. He believed that they could maintain 4 mile? for a great d?al less than they proposed to pay now. He moved to strike out the reference to Colwyn Bay.
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THE MAN OF THE WEEK. I "EDWARD TH PEACEMAKER." King Edward's visit to Berlin is being paid at a time when many circumstances have combined to create an uneasy feeling between Germany and this country. Commenting upon the visit, the Press of Paris calls His Majesty, Edward the Peacemaker," and, as all the world knows, no other monarch has such a powerful influence in international affairs. He is a model of tact, and one of the most accom* plished and successful diplomatists of the day. Although it is officially stated that no special political significance is to be attached to the Berlin visit, there can be little doubt that the presence of the King in the German capital will go far to smooth over any difficulties, and to place the relations of the two countries on a per- manent basis of mutual respect and goodwill. Mr Samuels asked if the amount was only for maintenance. Mr Gomer Roberts replied in the affirmative- Mr Seymour Jones seconded Mr John Roberts. He did not think that they should pay JB1275 for work which was only valued at JE900. They should be frank in the matter, and be fair to all districts. Replying to questions, the Clerk stated that the Local Government Board would have to arbitrate in the matter, and he pointed out that they had already paid 21000 on account, and that showed that there was something else due. Mr Porter said it seemed to him that there had been a sort of triangular due!. There was the representative of the deep sea, then there was the representative of the other party- (laughter)—and the third one was the representa- tive of the ratepayers (laughter). The fact of the matter was there had never been any agree- ment come to, and there never would be until the work was assessed on a practical basis. In the past it was simply a matter of bartering-the sur- veyor for the Colwyn Bay people on the one side and the surveyor and the accountant for the County Council on the other. He did not agree with what had been said as to the traffic at Llangollen being equal to that at Colwyn Bay. Colwyn Bay was a progressing town, while Llan- gollen was a very interesting old village (laugh- ter and cries of dissent). If they wanted to arrive at the real value of places let them compare the assessments and the growth of those assessments. He did not think that the ratepayers of Colwyn Bay-which was the backbone of the county- received their full value for what they paid, and the Council had to remember that in Colwyn Bay a town had been built around a very narrow road. He hoped the committee's recommendation would be passed, as the Council would be stulify- ing itself if it did not do so. Mr Mac. Nicoll said it had been arranged that there should be a meeting of the committee to go thoroughly into the accounts, but that committee had not met. Mr Bevan pointed out that the E950 had nothing to do with the present account. That was a suia which Colwyn Bay was asked to con- tract for flie repairing of the roads. The claim was in respect to the year ending March last. The county accountant had gone thoroughly into the claim, and surely the Council would not go against the recommendation of their own official that JE1273 should be paid. They in Colwyn Bay said it was not enough, as he had cut down the scavenging by two-thirds, but he believed the sum would be accepted, but if'they went to arbi- tration they would start on the basis of E1900, and he was sure from the way they kept their accounts that they were more likely to get nearer E1900 than £ 1200. In Colwyn Bay the only roads over which the heavy building traffic went was the one main road. Mr Gomer Roberts: It is the same in Llan- gollen. Mr B.">van said he would like to have a census of the motor traffic in tho two plaoes. Mr Gomer Roberts: I will accept it. Mr Bevan said he was sure that there was more motor traffic in Colwyn Bay, and he would point out that the road had no foundation, so that until they thoroughly made the road they could not hope to get the expense of maintenance reduced- Colonel Cornwallis West urged that the opinion of the committee should be taken on such a, matter. The Chairman considered that their hands were to a certain extent tied by the fact that their accountant had put the figure down at 21273. Mr John Roberts asked if the Council were bound by the acts of their offioers? The Chairman said they would have to call their officers if they went to arbitration, and the accountant would have to admit that he arrived at £1273. Mr Christmas Jones urged Mr Roberts to with- draw his amendment. Mr John Roberts said he was prepared to do so, but he would move that in future all claims from urban districts be referred to a sub-com- mittee to report thereon to the County Council,and M, that the reports of the officials be treated as con- fidential by the sub-committee. He also asked whether they were bound by the report of their accountant as to Colwyn Bay's claim? The Clerk said they were not bound, but his report would prejudice them if there was arbi- tration. Mr G. Thomas said he would like to move another amendment, that they ask the Local Gov- ernment Board to amend the law as to County Councils paying for urban main roads. Mr Bevan pointed out that Mr Roberts' amend- ment would be impracticable unless it meant that none but rural councillors should sit on the sub- committee, as the urban councillors would natu- rally have access to the reports. It would be a very unfair position to take up. Mr Roberts then withdrew his amendment, and the report was adopted, the Council passing a resolution for the sub-committee to continue to act, and that they in future consider all urban claims without asking their officers to first re- port on them. LAND FOR ALLOTMENTS. Mr John Roberts submitted the report of the Allotments Committee, and said the committee had to thank some of the landowners for their hearty co-operation. On the other hand, some landlords had only given lip sympathy, finding excuses from one meeting to the other and asking prohibitive prices. The County Council were bound to supply the applicants with land, and if they could not get it voluntarily they must use tho strong hand. He hoped they would not need to do that, of course. He noticed that it had recently been 5:,id at.-a public meeting in the county that they spent 2300 a year out of the rates to employ people to explain the Small Hold- ings Act. That was not true. They had to find the money in the first instance, but it would al- most all be refunded by the Government, and the a.mount would not be a third or a fourth of E300 (hear, hear). RUTHIN COUNTY OFFICES. "AS CLANNISH AS SCOTLAND." It was recommended to advertise for a care- taker for the new county offices at Rutliin, the advertisement to appear in two county papers- "The Welsh Coast Pioneer" and the "Wrex- ham Advertiser." Mr Gomer Roberts said he considered that they should also advertise in a Welsh newspaper, and he moved that the advertisement be inserted in "The Baner." He also moved that a clause be inserted in the advertisement that a knowledge of Welsh was essential. Mr H. Williams seconded. The Chairman asked if Welsh was necessary for cleaning purposes (laughter). Mr Gomer Roberts: It is a public building. The Clerk: It is not a public building in the sense that people will have to be shown over it. Mr Gomer Roberts: People will attend there in a public capacity. Mr Porter: Insert also that a knowledge of English is essential (laughter). Colonel W. Cornwallis West moved that it be stated that a knowledge of Welsh is desirable. Mr G. Cromar seconded. Mr Roberts' motion was carried by 19 votes to 11. Mr G. Cromar: I must express my regret that you are all so clannish that when you have an appointment in your own hands you will paaa a resolution such as this. Really, I thought that in Scotland they were more clannish than in any other part of the world, but here in Denbighshire you are as clannish as they are in Scotland. Mr Gomer Roberts: I hone you will withdraw that- There is no cianm'shness n.t. all. Is it reasonable that we should appoint a man to take care of a public building that cannot speak •the language spoken in the town4 (hear, hear). The Chairman said he would now put Colonel Cornwallis West's amendment to substitute the word "desirable" for the word "essential," in Mr Gomer Roberts's resolution. On the amendment 12 voted on each side. .The Chairman gave his casting vote in lit favour, and the applicants for the post will oonwqeiintly he told that a knowledge of Welsh is "desirable." COUNTY RATING BASIS. AN OBJECTION BY COLWYN BAY DISTRICT COUNCIL. The Assessment Committee reported that they had reoeived the following letter from the clerk of the Colwyn Bay and Colwyn Urban. District Council, which comprises the parishes of Llan- drillo-yn-Rhos and Eirias, viz.:—"I am directed by the above Council to give you notice that they object to the proposed basis and standard of the county rate on the grounds (inter alia) that the valuation list contains assessments which are be- ing appealed against, and which may possibly be considerably reduced before the end of the cur- rent year, and, further, that the said list ia based upon assessments which have already been reduced since the return was made by the clerk to the guardians." Mr George Bevan had attended before the com- mittee to support the objection of the Urban Dis- trict Council, and stated that the London a.nd North-Western Railway Company, the Urban Dis- trict Council, and other owners of property in the parishes of Llandrillo-yn-Rhos and Eirias, were appealing against the aasessmantis of their properties, which were included in the return made to the clerk of the County Council in November last by the clerk of the Union, and that it was understood that the Assessment Com- mittee of the Union were prepared to reduce the assessments by considerable amounts, though not to the extent that the owners of that property think they are entitled. After full consideration of the matter, the committee recommended that the gross estimated I rentals of hereditaments not being agricultural land in the parish of Llandrillo-yn-Rhos in the new county rate basis be reduced by the sum of £2250, and that of Eirias by 2250, provided the clerk to the Conway Guardians stated that in his opinion such reductions would not be unreason- able, taking all the circumstances into considera- tion. It waa also decided that in the event of the clerk to the guardians expressing m opinion that he did not think that the proposed reductions J were reasonable, or in the event of his being un- willing to express an opinion on the matter, that the committee meet for a short time on the morning of the meeting of the County Council on February 5th. The Clerk stated that the committee had met that day, and decided that the figures should be based on the gross estimated rental and not on the assessable value. INCREASING COUNTY EXPENDITURE. MR G. BEVAN SUGGESTS A REMEDY. The Finance Committee reported the receipt of a copy of a letter addressed by the overseers of the parishes of Llandrillo-yn-Rhos to the guard- ians of the Conway Union on November 5th, 1908, and copy of the guardians' reply of the 12th of that month, but no proposal was made on the subject. The overseers acknowledged receipt of the or- der for contribution, signed October 2nd. 1908, claiming £ 5059 as their contribution to the com- mon fund of the Union. They pointed out that this amount showed an increase of JS1189 on the corresponding half-year of last year, or £ 1761 more this financial year than last year, and de- sired to enter their most emphatic protest against the constant increase in the demands on the parish, which were becoming unbearable. In his reply, the Clerk to the guardians stated that the latter had every sympathy with the ratepayers of the Union, and they are doing their best to keep down the ordinary common fund expenditure. To substantiate this statement figures were given, from which, the Clerk stated, it would be seen that the Union expenditure had a tendency to come down, and it was actually a penny less for the current year than it was seven years ago, although the population had consider- ably increased. On the other hand, the payments to the county of Denbigh from the parish of Llandrillo-yn-Rhos during the same periods, from 1903 to 1909. bad increased from C872 to £ 6697. Mr G. Bevan said he was eorry he had not heard any referenoe to the fact that there had been great extravagance in the spending of the ratepayers' money. He thought the chairman of the committee would have alluded to it when the Finanoe Committee's report was presented. Conway guardians complained of the growing ex- penditure of the County Council, and there was only one remedy for the extravagance, that was to support candidates at the next election who would go in for "efficiency, economy, and reform" (laughter). Mr Bennett Jones: Then Mr Bevan will be out of it (loud laughter). Mr Bevan added that the increase in the rates was irritating the ratepayers, and some check would have to be put to the extravagances. Mr G. Cromar (chairman of the Finance Com- mittee) said they were all anxious for efficiency with economy, and he trusted tba-t Mr Bevan would go home to his own Urban District Council
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and use his influence in that direction there (ap- plause). The County Council had spent a con- siderable amount of time that day in considering the extravagant claims for the making of roads and so forth in that district. The expenditure was going up it was true, but he failed to hear of any practical proposition to reduce it. There was no proposal to go back to tho old method of road-making. At Ruthin he found a, most mag- nificent building (the county offices) fit for the leading street ri- the city of London (laughter). (Mr Bevan: Quite so.). One gentleman at the last meeting cried shame upon them for their extravagance, but he had not said A word about the extravagance at Ruthin. It had improved his property and that of his friends around him at the expense of other people. People in glass houses should not cast stones (applause). SOLICITING INFORMATION. COMPLAINT BY MR MAC. NICOLL. Mr Mac. Nicoll said he noticed in the report of a committee that a motion in his name had been withdrawn. He did not think it was correct. The Clerk and several members expressed the opinion that Mr Mac. Nicoll had withdrawn on being told that he could get the information he required from the clerk's office. Mr Mac. Niooll said he had been misunderstood It was ridiculous to be told that the officials were not to answer questions addressed to them with- out the authority of the Council. He had asked for particulars regarding an item of C1573 in respect of registration, legal and election ex- penses in 1907, and he was told that he could get the information by oalling at the offices. But was it right to ask a member to undertake a journey to Ruthin in order to examine the books? It was a great hardship, and he intended moving in the matter at the next meeting- Mr Seymour Jones suggested the publishing of the accounts in a more convenient form in future. ROAD REPAIRING AT SARNYMYNACH AND MOCHDRE. The Main Roads Surveyor reported that the sur- face of the road from Sarnymynach, through Glan Conway, also from Furnaoe Bridge to the Car- narvonshire boundary, was in a most unsatisfactory state. He thought it would be well to pass a resolution calling upon the Cowlyd Water Board to put this roa into the same condition as they found it before their contractors began to open it for laying down the water main. It was decided to send a copy of the surveyor's report to the oontractnrs and to the Cowlyd Water Board, and that they be requested to take the necessary stops forthwith to reinstate the road into the same good condition as it was ad- mitted to be prior to the commencement of the laying of the 15-inch main. It was also reported by the Surveyor that Mr Wm. Jones, surveyor to the Colwyn Bay and Colwyn Urban Council, reported to him that a part of the main road between Colwyn Bay and Mochdre had becoma dangerous, and that a slip might occur at a.ny moment, and that the Urban Council had instructed him to protect the plaoe by. building a small retaining wall at a cost of about £ 14 53. The Surveyor said he inspected the road on the same date, and found that a retaining wall was required. The Council agreed to do the work. LLANRWST BRIDGE. CLAIM AGAINST THE ALUMINIUM COM- PANY. The Surveyor reported that the Llanrwst Urban I Council complained that in consequence of recent repairs to the Llanrwst Bridge, the approaches to, as well as the roadway passing over the same, had been raised to such an extent as to render additional fencing absolutely necessary. The Urban Council advised that iron railings or wtre fencing be fixed on the top of the parapet walls- To do that would, in his (the surveyor's) opinion, be a great mistake, especially to an ancient bridge of this character. The roadway on the approach to the bridge was raised some time back by the Urban Council, and the walls on the approaches were also raised at the same time. The roadway at the entrance to the bridge on the Denbigh- shire side was reoently raised a little, so as to im- prove the gradient, but the parapet w^lls were also raised higher to correspond. The parapet walla on the Denbighshire portion of the bridge were about six inches higher than the walls on the Carnarvonshire portion. The Clerk informed the Council that he had written to the clerk of the Carnarvonshire County Council enclosing copy of the resolution relating to the cost of repairing the Denbighshire portion of the Llanrwst bridge. He had reoeived a reply from the clerk of the Carnarvonshire County Council, stating that he had sent in a claim for the amount expended by his county in strengthening and repairing their portion of the bridge as part of a claim in respect of extraordi- nary traffic. It was resolved to apply to the county main roads surveyor for the Denbigh district for in- formation as to when the damage by extraordi- nary traffic was done, and the amount that the Aluminium Corporation Ltd. should be required to pay, and that application be made to the Cor- poration for the immediate payment of the amount, and that tha negotiations with them be left in the hands of the three members of the committee, with the clerk, and that in the event of the Corporation declining to pay the amount claimed, prooepdmefs be taken. MOTOR SIGN POSTS. The St. Asaph (Denbigh) Rural District Council wrote that they were still of opinion that it is the duty of the County Council to provide the nooeasary sign posts at Clipterfyn, near Llan- dduJ.33. The County Main Road Surveyor reported that he believed tha.t both the County Council and the Rural District Council had power under the Motor Car Act, 1903, to erect danger sign posts on rural district roads, but that there waa no compulsion for either body to do so, and also that no danger sign posts had been erected on district roads at the expense of the County Council- No action was taken in the matter. PROPOSED WIDENING OF MAIN ROAD NEAR TALYCAFN. Regarding the abeve, the Surveyor reported that the length which required widening was
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120 lineal .yards, by placing the fence back fo^l yards or 12 feet at the narrowest part of the r°j*» and running out at each end to the width of the road. This would bo approximate* 250 square yards of road making. He e.stirnaWj.- that the cost of widening this length of l'O8". would be from £ 68 15s to £ 75. t; As to the proposed widening near Dolwyd and Sarnymynach, he saw no reason for alteriM his estimate of £ 525 4s, which was submitted the Special Committee in October, 1906. j If they decided to widen the road at either these points, the work could not be until after the end of the financial year, inasm'^J as no provision wa3 made for this work in estimate for the year. It was resolved -that a copy of the report forwarded to Lady McLaren's agent, Mr J- LLnnell, Prestatyn, with the object of from him upon what terms, if any, the Cpu^ Council could acquire-the necessary quantity land, estimated at 250 square yards, for the posad widening of the main road near Talyca' The Clork stated that he had a letter on p*? subject, and the same was referred to the DenbiS Committee, as was also a letter from Mr M**j Nicoll as to the proposed widening of the T° near Dohvyd Bach and Sarnymynach. ALLEGED DAMAGE BY TRACTION ENGINE. J The County Main Roads Surveyor report*! that on November 7th, 1S03, the Abergele Co wrote complaining that damage was being dp to urban main roads by the traction enolfl^ which was then hauling stones from the station to the Llanddulas-road, but that he of opinion that no damage whatever had done to the road in question. CHAPEL-STREET, ABERGELE. i It was decided to adhere to a resolution ready passed, and that no contribution be rn^ towards improvements to Chapel-street, until land on both sides of the road was conveyed the Council. MOTOR CAR SPEED LIMIT ON TIIO COLWYN BAY-LLANRWST ROAD. The Main Roads Committee reported considered the resolution passed by the Cou&L Council on the 7th November referring back the committee a recommendation in favour of application for an order limiting the speedy motor cars on the main road from Colwyn B-* to Llanrwst. to ten miles an hour. It was resolved that the same be referred b» > to the Rural District Council with an intimate that the Main Roads Committee, on further sideration, could not recommend the Cou^j Council to entertain the application in its Pre8fj form, but that the committee would be prepa^J to favourably entertain an application if the sa" were limited to the village of Glan Conway. APPROACHES TO RAILWAY BRIDGES- A letter was read from the London and Western Railway Company stating that the co* pany were advised they were not liable to 9jj{ struct road approaches in order that they sustain heavier traffic than they were built carry when the railway was constructed. COLWYN BAY MAIN ROADS. The Clerk submitted the estimate of the Ojjj wyn Bay Urban Council for the maintenance &?*2 repair of the main roads within the urban diatrj, for the year 1909-10, amounting to ceived from the Urban Council on the 15th It was decided to refer the same to the bigh District Main Ronds Committee. ABERGELE BURIAL GROUND. With regard to the proposed alterations to t. | approach to the Abergele burial ground, J J plans had been approved by a sub-oommittee, it was decided that the work be completed i the entire satisfaction of the county architect, y at the sole expense of the Abergele Burial Boa** A PROTEST FROM LLANFAIRTALHAI-AS* RATEPAYERS. l A resolution, stated to have been passed una* mously by 200 ratepayers at a meeting at Ll*y fairtalhaiarn on November 26th, 1908, was mitbed to the Finanoe Committee, protest1' against the continued increase in the rates, calling upon the County Council to carefully vise their administrative charges, and demand*, the exercise of drastic economy in all branch of expenditure. No proposal was made on the subject.. SHOP HOURS' ACT AT COLWYN BA* AND OLD COLWYN- « The Clerk reported that he expected that Order under the Shop Hours' Act would be force before the end of the month, he havinff oeived confirmation of it. As regards the Shop Hours' Act for Old wyn, the committee had reoeived a petition grooerfi, bakers and provision dealers in Col^jJJ district asking the Council to apply the proV^ of the Act to their district, and that from 0° ber 1st to April 30th each year the hours „ closing the shops be 7 p.m. on Mondays, days and Thursdays, 8 p.m. on Fridays, 1 Wednesdays, and 10 p.m. on Saturdays. It was decided to publish, and also to ad^ tise, in the "Welsh Coast Pioneer" the reqU^V^ notioe of the Council's intention to make order asked for. The Clerk si red that the Carnarvonshire Co^ ty Council had made a like order. INCREASED REPRESENTATION FOR ABERGELE. The Boundary Committee reported having' oeived a. petition asking the Council to hold inquiry with the view of increasing the number urban District Councillors for the Abergele ^arja The committee were satisfied that a prima fajT. case for an increase in the number of urban trict councillors for the Abergele Ward of l,g Abergele and Pensarn urban district watt out, and recommended the County Council appoint the following members to hold a k>e*l' quiry, namely, Messrs J. Wiicoxon, D. ™ Nicoli, George Cromar, and J- M. Porter. It was stated that the inquiry would be held the 15th inst. DENBIGH BLUE COAT CHARITY- Mr Pierce Da vies was appointed a reprefi*>n?^ tive trustee under the scheme dealing with t foundation known as the Denbigh Blue School. LAID ON THE TABLE. A copy of a resolution received from the C?rn.\4 vonshire County Council in favour of appoiid'Qj a "Minister responsible to Parliament for affairs" was ordered to be laid on the table. THE COST OF EDUCATION. A A resolution passed at the conference of I'Bs education authorities, held on December lvS 1908, was read and agreed to. The resold1 ( was in favour of a larger share of the cost education being borne by the Imperial Lxchcq11^ THE UNEMPLOYED. The Clerk read a letter from the Local Go^e^\j ment Board, dated December 12th, enquii'11" what action has been taken by the County Co1* cil to give effect to the provisions of thei UQ° ployed Workmen's Act. It was decided to appoint a committee to 50^ eider the eame, Mr J. M- Porter asking if it not a fact that the Local Government Board not met for 30 years (laughter). TALYCAFN BRIDGE. £ A letter, dater January 16th, from Messrs T* Jones and Sons, engineers and surveyors, minster, on the subject of the sale of Tab'0? p Bridge to Denbighshire and Carnarvonshire j°in ly, was referred to the Main Roads Committ^fl THE TEACHERS AND THE EDUCATION AUTHORITY. The Clerk read the following resolutions by the Denbighshire County Association of ers, but the same were ordered to be laJa 120 lineal .yards, by placing the fence back fo^l yards or 12 feet at the narrowest part of the r°j*» and running out at each end to the width of the road. This would bo approximate* 250 square yards of road making. He e.stirnaWj.- that the cost of widening this length of l'O8". would be from £ 68 15s to £ 75. t; As to the proposed widening near Dolwyd and Sarnymynach, he saw no reason for alteriM his estimate of £ 525 4s, which was submitted the Special Committee in October, 1906. j If they decided to widen the road at either these points, the work could not be until after the end of the financial year, inasm'^J as no provision wa3 made for this work in estimate for the year. It was resolved -that a copy of the report forwarded to Lady McLaren's agent, Mr J- LLnnell, Prestatyn, with the object of from him upon what terms, if any, the Cpu^ Council could acquire-the necessary quantity land, estimated at 250 square yards, for the posad widening of the main road near Talyca' The Clork stated that he had a letter on p*? subject, and the same was referred to the DenbiS Committee, as was also a letter from Mr M**j Nicoll as to the proposed widening of the T° near Dohvyd Bach and Sarnymynach. ALLEGED DAMAGE BY TRACTION ENGINE. J The County Main Roads Surveyor report*! that on November 7th, 1S03, the Abergele Co wrote complaining that damage was being dp to urban main roads by the traction enolfl^ which was then hauling stones from the station to the Llanddulas-road, but that he of opinion that no damage whatever had doue to the road in question. CHAPEL-STREET, ABERGELE. i It was decided to adhere to a resolution ready passed, and that no contribution be rn^ towards improvements to Chapel-street, until land on both sides of the road was conveyed the Council. MOTOR CAR SPEED LIMIT ON TH$ COLWYN BAY—LLANRWST ROAD. The Main Roads Committee reported considered the resolution passed by the Cou&L Council on the 7th November referring back the committee a recommendation in favour of application for an order limiting the speedy motor cars on the main road from Colwyn B-* to Llanrwst. to ten miles an hour. It was resolved that the same be referred b» > to the Rural District Council with an intimate that the Main Roads Committee, on further sideration, could not recommend the Cou^j Council to entertain the application in its Pre8fj form, but that the committee would be prepa^J to favourably entertain an application if the sa" were limited to the village of Glan Conway. APPROACHES TO RAILWAY BRIDGES- A letter was read from the London and Western Railway Company stating that the co* pany were advised they were not liable to 9jj{ struct road approaches in order that they sustain heavier traffic than they were built carry when the railway was constructed. COLWYN BAY MAIN ROADS. The Clerk submitted the estimate of the Ojjj wyn Bay Urban Council for the maintenance &?*2 repair of the main roads within the urban diatrj, for the year 1909-10, amounting to ceived from the Urban Council on the 15th It was decided to refer the same to the bigh District Main Ronds Committee. ABERGELE BURIAL GROUND. j With regard to the proposed alterations to t. | approach to the Abergele burial ground, J J plans had been approved by a sub-oommitteet aIJj it was decided that the work be completed i the entire satisfaction of the county architect, y at the sole expense of the Abergele Burial Boa** A PROTEST FROM LLANFAIRTALHAI-AS* RATEPAYERS. l A resolution, stated to have been passed una* mously by 200 ratepayers at a meeting at Ll*y fairtalhaiarn on November 26th, 1908, was mitbed to the Finanoe Committee, protest1' against the continued increase in the rates, calling upon the County Council to carefully vise their administrative charges, and demand*, the exercise of drastic economy in all branch of exj>enditure. No proposal was made on the subject.. SHOP HOURS' ACT AT COLWYN BA* AND OLD COLWYN- « The Clerk reported that he expected that Order under the Shop Hours' Act would be force before the end of the month, he havinff oeived confirmation of it. As regards the Shop Hours' Act for Old wyn, the committee had reoeived a petition grooerfi, bakers and provision dealers in Col^jJJ district asking the Council to apply the proV^ of the Act to their district, and that from 0° ber 1st to April 30th each year the hours „ closing the shops be 7 p.m. on Mondays, days and Thursdays, 8 p.m. on Fridays, 1 Wednesdays, and 10 p.m. on Saturdays. It was decided to publish, and also to ad^ tise, in the "Welsh Coast Pioneer" the reqU^V^ notioe of the Council's intention to make order asked for. The Clerk si red that the Carnarvonshire Co^ ty Council had made a like order. INCREASED REPRESENTATION FOB ABERGELE. The Boundary Committee reported having' oeived a. petition asking the Council to hold inquiry with the view of increasing the number urban District Councillors for the Abergele ^arja The committee were satisfied that a prima fajT. case for an increase in the number of urban trict councillors for the Abergele Ward of l,g Abergele and Pensarn urban district watt out, and recommended the County Council appoint the following members to hold a k>e*l' quiry, namely, Messrs J. Wiicoxon, D. ™ Nicoli, George Cromar, and J- M. Porter. It was stated that the inquiry would be held the 15th inst. DENBIGH BLUE COAT CHARITY- Mr Pierce Da vies was appointed a reprefi*>n?^ tive trustee under the scheme dealing with t foundation known as the Denbigh Blue School. LAID ON THE TABLE. A copy of a resolution received from the C?rn.\4 vonshire County Council in favour of appoiid'Qj a "Minister responsible to Parliament for affairs" was ordered to be laid on the table. THE COST OF EDUCATION. A A resolution passed at the conference of education authorities, held on December lvS 1908, was read and agreed to. The resold1 ( was in favour of a larger share of the cost education being borne by the Imperial Lxchcq11^ THE UNEMPLOYED. The Clerk read a letter from the Local Go^e^\j ment Board, dated December 12th, enquii'11" what action has been taken by the County Co1* cil to give effect to the provisions of thei UQ° ployed Workmen's Act. It was decided to appoint a committee to 50^ eider the eame, Mr J. M- Porter asking if it not a fact that the Local Government Board not mot for 30 years (laughter). TALYCAFN BRIDGE. £ A letter, dater January 16th, from Messrs T* Jones and Sons, engineers and surveyors, minster, on the subject of the sale of Tab'0? p Bridge to Denbighshire and Carnarvonshire j°in ly, was referred to the Main Roads Committ^fl THE TEACHERS AND THE EDUCATION AUTHORITY. The Clerk read the following resolutions by the Denbighshire County Association of ers, but the same were ordered to bo IaJa the table:— (a) That this meeting of the Denbighshire ere urges upon the Denbighshire Education £ thority the necessity for a representation teachers on the Educational Committee; an" the formation of a Consultative Committee, 0 posed of representatives of the local education thority arid of the teachers of the county, to periodically to discuss matters bearing- upon, tfork of education ia the eohooLs of the couo*