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COLWYN BAY VISITORS. rWLLi'ClliiOCilAN HOTEL. J. S. Litlewocd, Esq., ittsident. Mi'b LutLwcod, do. Miss Wright, London. E. Oliver, Esq., Manchester. II. J. (;(>iùshmidt, EBq., Manchester. Miss Heine, do. do. ilia Murgatroyd, do. ¡ Miss Mui^ait-oyd and rittrse, do. J. I'rockter, Esq., Oldham. A. Stott, Esq., do. Airs Stoit, duo Miss McU'alle, Muiieliostcr. » Mio- Marsha! d'). Miss Clark, do. E. iJiilkvard, Esq.. and valet, Aldctlry Bridge. Miss Halkyard, ùu. Mr8 Lodwurd, do. Mrs Heap, RficlidAle. W. Loe-Wood, E-ij., Manchester. Mn; Lee-Wood, liD. F. Bieelaner, Esq., Chelford. Mrs Breslaner, do. U. Lamb, Esq., J. WT. Jones, Esq., M.vnchesteS1. ti. C. iiu.woith, E j ,i A. J. Liverpool. Mrs i'etropulo, Jo. W. Esq., do. Mrs ;tralford, ijo. R. J. Holdsworfh, Esq., Bolton. Mrs HoldsworUi, d". H. Wad,rngton, ESf., do. Mra Waddington, do. R. B. Leach, Bs(j., Manchester Mrs Acratopulo, Liverpool. Mrs W. Stott, Oldham. Miss Nancy Stott, do. Mrs W. Owen and friend, Warrington. Mis 0. (joldshmidt, Manchester. F. Sykes, Esq., C'headle. Mrs :yke. do. Mrs Mould, do. METROrOLE HOTEL. Atrs Salitsburv, Weslon Super Mare. A. Linton, E*q., _Birniin^ha.m. Rev. L(:Vt,r, L,verp,,o,. Mrs Lester, do. T. B. Roberts, Esq., Carnarvon. J. Armitiige, Esq., Huddersfleld. J. Owen, Esq., Manchester. J. A. Harlcr, Esq.. Chester. I. Jones, Eh-q., Kidderminster. W. J. fiev,,itt., F-,I., Manchester. J. Knock, Esq., Birmingham. P. Gc)rleaiii, Esti., Ilortishead. J. Holt, Esq., New Brighton. Airs Holt, do. Mis D. Burden, do. W. H. Hohdy, Esij., Manchester. J. Adamoii, Esq., Barry. S. Mayman, Esq., Dewsbnrv. Mrs Mayman, do. H. Ciiatferton, E-iq., Hornsey. Mi-s Chatterton, do. J. Coleman, Esq., Southjjort. Ml's Coleman, do. W. D. Davie«, Esq., Manchester. T. Gower, E.sq., London. P. G. m'od, Esq., Birmingham. I. Lawson, Esq., London. S. Hadfield, Esq., Soinhport. Mrs Hadfield, do. R. Clegg, Miss Clfgg, dn. W. W. Me. Symon, Esq.. Liverpool. T. Hewson, Esq., Leeds. COLWYN BAY HOTEL. W. Whitehead, Estl., and chauffeur, Manchester. T. Howe, Esq., Manchester. J. Bowker, Esq., do. A. Bncidey, Esq., and diaxfft.-ur, do. Sir Everard C'ay>y, Suffolk. Lord, Esq., Middieton. Mrs Lord, do. Dr. It. Mrs rark, do. Miss Mary Park, do. Miss Tutu Park, do. Mr and Mrs Civddington, Irrtand. Mr Swinglehurst, Kendall. T. Mayor. Emj., Walsall. Mics Mayur, do. C. Joynson, £c'1-. do- H. S ore, Esq., London. t Mrs Store, do. Mrs J. Thomson and maid, Liverpool. Mrs Migginbottcm, Liverpool. Wedmi' Esq., Liverpool. Mrs Wedum, do. Dr. Clegg, Windermere. J. iavlor, Esq., Prrgton. 11. G. Taylor. Esq., London. J. Walker, Esq. Rochdale. Mrs Walker, do. L. Johnson, Esq., Liverpool. — Smith. Esq., Stalybrid^e. I-Grant, Esq., do. LOCKYER'S PRIVATE HOTEL. Ja.s. C x, E'-q., Birkenhead. Mrs C'x. ilo. •J. Heap, Esq., BhcLjool. Miss Heap, do. Mrs Franci«, do.

CORRESPONDENCE. POLICE ARRANGEMENTS AT OJ D COLWYN. (To the Editor of the "Pioneer."). Sir. While at Old Colwyn one dav last week, I had occasion to inquire for the police officer I stationed there. Though it was then after 6 p.m., I was assured by a number of reliable ac- quaintances that the officer was rarelv seen in the streets before that hour nowadays. Knowing P.O. Owen to be one of the most conscientious policemen in this district, I was curious enough to investigate matters, with the result that' I have been convinced that Old Colwyn calls for the immediate attention of the Standing Joint Committee. I was authoritatively informed that the officer's "beat" extends about six miles into the country in the direction of Llanelian and Dawn, and in- cludes a large agricultural area. From .June till about November in each year he is therefore fre- quently called away for several days in succes- Óm (a. he was last week) to supervise sheep- dipping operations. In the meantime the popu- lous urban area under his charge is of course bereft of police assistance. This is a serious matter, for it means that during the busiest period of the year there is no one to control the enormous motor-car nnd other traffic over the main road through Old Colwyn, nor to render help in any other way in the cause of law and order. It is also noteworthy that. the Old Colwyn officer has under his charge a population esti- mated at 4000, whereas in Colwyn Bav. which is obviously not over-policed, there are 2000 people to (Iffiecr. Without amplifying in anyway I think I have made out an undrr.iable r-ase for additional police assistance at Old Colwyn, and while there is a sub committee of the Police Committee now dealing with the question of providing an officer for Llvsfaen-who, be it stated, will relieve P.O. Owen only in an in- finitesimal degree-- T confidently anpeai for their consideration to the claims of Old Cokvn at the same time. Mr ITammeHey Heenan. Mr Joseph Smith, •ii P" iHia-ms, and other local magistrates will, I feel sure, use their influence in the de- sired direction over this ter. etc., r< t „ VERITAS. Colwyn Bay, November 16th, 1908.

CO.,IST EROSION AND THE UN- EMPLOYED. tro the Editor of the "Pioneer."). Sir,-It was suggested to me by a friend, the other day, that it would be a good way of giving the unemployed practical help to set them to work on building a sea-wall, to avoid further erosion which is taking place along this coasih Could this idea be developed?—Yours, etc., E. Y. WILSON JONES. Bronhaul, Prestatyn, November 15tb, 1908.

On Monday, a meeting of farmers and others interested in agriculture in the Wrexham dis- trict was held at the Wynnstay Arms Hotel, Wrexham, under the presidency of Mr John Ro- berts, Gwersyllt. It was decided to form a Far- mers' Association for East Denbighshire.

MR TENNYSON SMITH AT COLWYN BAY. LARGE AUDIENCES ATTRACTED DURING A WEEK'S MISSION. A PUBLIC WELCOME. Under the auspices of the Gospel Temperance Association, Mr Tennyson Smith, the well- known berrijieranco lecturer, opened a week's mission at Colwyn Bay to-day week. On Thursday evening' a public recopvoon was held in the Lecture iiall, when there was a large attendance. Among those pN,n[ were: Revs. IThos. Lkt d, 11. T. Cousin* Dr. Chrlsr'cn, Parry, iSila.s Jones, John Hkhvards, i'j. W. Vvade, G- B. File, Old Colwyn; ivii.-s btiiel Hovey, Penrhos College; Messrs T. Rigby, Old Col- wyn; W. Jones, Metropolitan Bank, Colwyn Bay; J. Thompson, J.P.; Kettle well, T. Lewis, Roumania House; 11. W. Jones, S. Johnston, organising secretary Y.M.C.A.- Ligiht ir?fras'hment8 were served, and after the hymn "Onward Christian Soldiers" was sung, the Hev. Thos. Lloyd offered up prayer. Mr D. O. Williams, chairman of the Cohvyn Bay and Colwyn Urban District Council, hearti- ly welcomed Mr Smith to Colwyn Bay. Per- sonally, he felt it an honour to stand shoulder to sihoulder wdth the lecturer. Thety had read so much of Mr Smith that ib made them fed interested in him. He was sure the people of Colwyn Bay would, during the next week, give him a most hearty welcome. He was proud to say he had never tasted intoxicating drink. His experience of the danger of drink was derived to a certain extent through being a member of the Board of Guardians, and he had been sor- rowfully impressed with the number that had become wrecks morally and physically through this evil. The (lizestion appealek] to him very much, and he had resolved to do his utmost to further the oaure for the welfare of the com- munity. He was proud of the i)-re.3eitt Govern- ment, and thought that every support should lie given it to push through the Licensing- Bill. As far as they were concerned in Wales they wer-a grateful for the position given them in the Bill. They had cause to be proud of their member, Sir J. Herbert Roberts, who had taken such a firm stand in that matter, and he (the speaker) admired him for the worthy speech be had made in the House in support of the r MR TENNYSON SMITH, Bell. Air Win. Jon.iis, the member for Arvon, also deserved their thanks for the work he had .rendered in that connection. In conclusion he only hoped they would stand firm and true, and support their leaders over that question, lie wished to extend to Mr Tennyson Smith a most hearty welcome (applause). Mr C. A. Adamson we loomed the lecturer on behalf of the Gospel Temperance Association. In doing so, he said there over 20 years sinoe he had heard Mr Smith in the Wesleyan &lJ()oLloorn. Colwyn Bay- Miss E. Hovey, as president of the local branch of the British. W omen's Temperance Association, in welcoming the lecturer, said the branch wished him pM.sieal strength, mental vigour, and spiritual power to conduct a most successful mission. Rev. Thcs. Parry offered a further welcome om bjlialf of the Welsh section of the local Temperance Party, and remarked that it was a quarter of a century since he had heard Mr Smith in the Old Presbyterian Church. Mr Smith, who was heartily applauded on rising, suitably acknowledged the speeches made, and remarked that the mission h;ul already made good progress, thanks to the energetic spirit of the hon. secretary, the Rev. Thos. Lloyd. They were not to rely too much on Tennyson Smith, but to concentrate their attention upon their own prayers. lie had heard the pulpit blamed a great deal for the drink curse, b-, -i he thought more blaini should be attached to the pew. In conclusion, he said lie made no charge for his services, the only mon>'e-; he .took being the proceeds of the "Trial of Alcohol." lie hoped they wciild support him well on the "trial njg,hf' so a; to() p!:t('oQ funds at his disposal to conduct mHsions in places lose aristocratic than Comyn Hay.

PUBLIC MEETINGS. Later in the evening', the first public mooting was held in the Public llall, when the building was crowded to the doors. Mr C. A. Adamson presided, and in his open- ing remarks -he said the Gospel ') emperance Association should not oifl'er any apology for bringing Mr Smith to Colwyn Bay for" they needed a man whose voice was clear to pit against one of the greatest evils of the times. (That nigUt they stood for a clean living com- munity, cJcan lips, clean language, sweet homes, and for rescuing lives which might be saved from the terrible power and influences of the drink traffic. They ihtd to face the great op- posing force of indifference, but by co-opera- tion they could do a great deal to remove the evil from their midst (applause). Mr Hugh Con way-Jones, of Conway, who had undertaken the duties of "counsel'' for the "trial," at thi, urged that six moderate drinker: should lv* chosen on the jury, so that the "defencC"- might be g'iven t.he opportunity to make a good fight. Rev. Thos. LJoyJ said the "trade" had been appea-leal to to provide their oetence, but could not see their way clear to do so. 'The Ca-airman then introduced the lecturer to the meeting. On rising, M,r Smith was given a very hearty reception. He outlined his programme for the week, and in the course of a comparatively brief address he promise-d the "tr.a.dt"" that 'he would be fairly warm on the following evening', warm on Saturday, hot on Sunday evening, red hot on Monday evening, at white heat on 'J. ueeday evening, while there was no telling what the climax would be at the close of the week- There was some spirited singing, the leading part being taken by a special ehoir and orches- tra, conduced by Mr E. A. Wrig'ht. In fact tho whole proceedings were characterised by much enthusiasm. WELSH INFLUENCES. Mr Smith said it was always a very great pleasure to him to speak to an audience in Wales, for 'he was deeply interested in Wales- Although rear.nl in a Christian home, it was at I'i simp-It) children's meeting held on the sands at Llandudno that he first gave his heart to Gcd. It \va$at Carnarvon in 1879, and to a Sunday School, that he gave his first address. It was in 18S1 that he gave his first public tem- perance address, giving one of Gough's ora- tions at the Presbyterian Church, Yale-street, Denbigh. He was a lover of Welsh, and had been able for years to worship in a Welsh chapel, although he understood nothing at all of what wa'; going forward. Continuing, he said some people called him a.n extremist, and he had come to Colwyn Bay to justify that name. Some people deprecated extremists, but personally he never thought much of moderate people, moderate teetotallers, or moderate re- former.?. The object of the mission was not only to save drunkards, but also to strike a blow at the liquor traffic in the town, and they cou.ld not fight the traffic withou t. fighting' the men/ engaged in it. An Birmingham he had re- ferred to the liquor sellers as the servants of the devil. Vigorous protests had been made against the sentence, on the ground that pub- licans were not all alike, with which he agreed, because there we,re the liquor sellers of high class, low class, and no class (laughter). He had further compared them to the Birmingham burglars, but again on being remonstrated with he agreed that he had been a bit too harish, and apologised to the burglars (applause and laughter). The burglar could and did ta;ke their jewels, etc., but even he left them their priceless children unharmed. During the week he would make statements which he could prove, and he challeng<ed the liquor sellers to come out and defend their trade. Before the evening meeting on Friday, Mr Smith addressed a large audience of children, presided over by Mr S. Glynne Jones, B.A. Mr Smith is never more happy than when addressing the oiiildren, and he gave point to his lesson 11: means of a story which he titled "Killing a snake in Australia," which he related in a most graphic manner. In the evening- there was another crowded gathering, over wiuch the Rev. Canon li. Ro- berts presided.

lHE VICAR'S VIENI-S. Canon Roberts, in the course of a few re- marks, sa.id he had not come to speak, but to listen and try and learn. He wish.I God's bkvssing' would rest upon the lecturer's efforts on behalf of temperance. Work was becoming year by year more refined, more delicate, and men of steady nerve were wanted. With so much driking men could not undertake such work, and this had a great deal to do with the amount of unemployment in the COn1l1ry. There was much talk about Protection as a panacea, but whilst men bothered with drink, nothing would do much good. The saddest phase of the whoie question was the increase in drinking amongst women. Of the drunkards in this country 38 per cent, were women. When women commenced to bother with the drink men were bound to go to. it. He had known men tx, be reclaimed, and in this respect he had done something himself, but he had never suc- ceeded in reclaiming a woman. He did not be- lieve that legislation could do nothing to mend matters. In liver pool from 1890 to 1894 the pubke-houses were reduced by more than 400, and the cases that came up for drunkenness had been reduced from. 14,000 to 7000. A good deal could bo done by legislation, but there was still a danger to rely too much upon the Government; they should rely more upon themselves. On this ocoasion Air* T. Smith dealt with his j subject under the heading of "The Drink De- mon," and in the course of a sweeping criticism I of "the tirade, he spoke of it as "a mean, vile, despicable, unscrupulous, devilish, dainnable trade. He proved hi.s words from letters in hia possession which only told of the misery wrought by this evil. There were letters from fathers and mothers, and some relating to friends who had fallen. People laughed when they saw and listened to an intoxicated man, they could not help it, but that was only the comedy of the question. Then thcr was the tragedy. "UP WITH THE DRUNKARD." Mr J. Crormpton presided on Saturday even- ing, the attendance being' larger than ever. Mr Smith took for his subject "Up with the drunkard, down with the drink." Over 500 men attended a special meeting on Sunday afternoon, when Mr J. T. Taylor, who presided, related some of his ex(>eriei<e of the trade at has father's house. Mr Smith spoke upon "The Curse and the Ollore." SundnJ evening's meeting was the most im- pressive of the woe-k. The hall was crowded in every corner, hundreds finding it difficult to find standing room. Mr Kettlewe.il presided, and the audience sang a number of hymns with such feeling that before the close the meeting resolved itself almost into a revival meeting. The lecturer took for his subject "A clarion call to a holv crusade."

A DOCTOR S VIEWS. On MOinday evening' the haJ1 was once more packed. Dr. Harold Nuttall presided, and he dealt at some length with the use of alcohol in modera- tion, which, he said, was not necessary for robust health. He could go further and say that the moderate use of alcohol was actually injurious to health. One insurance company had given him a reduction of 5 per cent. on a prem- iunn btxauso he war a total abstainer, and from inquiries he found that fou-r-ntth-i of the coun- try's insurance corporations made reductions of from 5 per cent, to 10 per cent. What did this mean, but that the moderate drinker was courting from 5 per cent., to 10 per cent. more accident or sickness than the total abstainer. He would go .'(ill further and say alcohol in moderation shortened one's life. It was a fact based on the mortality returns that the ab- stainer lived eleven years longer than the moderate drinker. He warned t.em of the dan- based on the mortality returns that the ab- stainer lived eleven years longer than the moderate drinker. He warned tiem of the dan- ger of placing too hcigh a value on benefits to temperance which would come through Act of Parliament, which would not. banish alcohol, but oniV, control the liquor traffic and the trade, which it, should and must. do. "The Great St.ug'gle" was the lecturer's sub- ject. On Tuesoay evening, there was again a crowded attendance, over which the Rev. Thos. Parry presided. Mr Smith delivered an inte- resting address, his subject being, "The >earjh- light flashed upon the Liquor Traffic." Yesterday evening, the subject, was, "The Peo- ple versus the Liquor Traffic." Mr H. W. Jones presided. During- the week vocal numbers have been sung by the Misses G. Iloskins, Bamford, Cromp- ton, and May Owen, Mr J. O. Davies, and the Greenfield Quartette. <

COLWYN BAY Y. M. C. A. BUILDING CAMPAIGN. NOT MERE SORDID MONEY-GETTING. A correspondent writes:—The first meeting dir tily in connection with the ab-.j\e campaign I held on Wednesday last week at the tem- porary headquarters, Herman House, I'enriiyn- road, i'ho gathering was characterised througn- out by enthusiasm in the highest and best sense (Hf t.ne word. Considering me unfavourable j weather prevailing, a really g'ood company turned up. The room on tn-c ground floor was artistically decorated with photos oi Y.M-C.A. artistically decorated with photos oi Y.M-C.A. work effective draperies adorned the sides, and the general impression conveyed was that, of a cosy drawing-room meeting. light icfreshments were fir: t of all served, followed by hymn and prayer. Then a five minutes' address was given by Mr Charka W. Bates, one of the three campaign secretaries who are temporarily staying in -ol- wyn Bay to sec the scheme through. In the course of his remarks, Mr Bates informed the assembly that the see notaries had not come to Wales tor mere sordid money-getting. Their purpose was to help the young men of the place to help themselves, and extend a welcoming hand to others not so comfortably situated. lie referred to himself and his colleagues as pion- eers of all enterprise that would have a lasting effect, if only backed up by sympathetic and enthusiastic supporters. The Chairman of the meeting, Mr C. E. Elocek, then invited questions bearing on the subject of the campaign itself, and for three minutes nearly everyone present voiced some query. Mr Kkock proceeded to deal with each ques- tion m turn, skilfully handling the various knotty points raised. One of the most persis- tent objections raised war,: "Will not this scheme mean a serious falling off in the receipts of the IxtHrdinghou.e keepers, and those who let apartments in the town?" The Chairman pointed out that far from this being' the case it would leave considerable bene- fit to the people of Colwyn Ba,y generally. It had been proved elsewhere t'hat as soon as a holiday home was opened, a certain class of young men who always spent their vacation at Y M.C.A. hotels began coming into the town in ever-increasing member' In many cases they brought, friends who could not stay at the hotel, e.g., sisters, mothers, and other relations, and consequently, whilst the young man went to the "Y.M." the others had to find accommo- dation elsewhere in the town. Mr Elcoek in- stanced a case clearly proving that one hundred and fifty person.> took lodging's in a popular re- sort solely because gentlemen friends si.ir.edat the Y.M.C.A. Mr Stanley Golden, formerly of Madras and Rangoon, the next speaker, at once took up Hue higher side of the work by pointing out that unlcA. men viewed this effort as a work for God, it would be an utter failure. He pointed his remarks with telling incidents from the lives of men who had accomplished great tasks through having the work thoroughly at heart before iJiey commenced. The other secretary, Mr S. Hyde Coleman, spoke of the hig'h ideal which each worker should set before himielf, and urged the workers to strive to attain for that point. He said the prayer meeting should be the hub of this cam- paign, and mentioned that already the secre- taries had proved the value of prayer in con- nection with the movement. This was followed up by Mr W. H. Prichard, t.he vice-chairman, and hon. secret a rfy of the Association, who instanced Father Dolling and George Muller, who had both oarried on splen- did work on the sheer strength of their belief in prayer. The Chairman, in his closing remarks, said he hardly hked to begin talking about the cam- paign, because he became so enthused that he didn't know what to leave out. For the benefit of any who desired to learn about the work and its needs, the campaign secretaries would be willing) to interview enquirers at Herman House on Friday, 20th inst., from 7 till 10 p.m. On Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, 23rd, 25th, and 27th inst., they would be in attend- ance to instruct the workers, of whom about a hundred wore needed. For the benefit of ihc general public, lantern lectures in Welsh and English would be delivered during the next fortnight. With regard to campaign work generally, he instanced several cases in which the effort had been*a distinct) means of blessing to individuals, churches and townships. The Chairman was heartily thanked for his kind provision for the evening and for presiding'- YESTERDAY'S PUBLIC MEETING. LODGING-HOUSE KEEPERS REASSURED. A public meeting was convened at the Metro- pole Hotoi, Colwyn Bay, yesterday afternoon, with the object of giving the townspeople an op- portunity of discussing the scheme. In the unavoidable absence of the chairman of the Council (Mr D. O. Williams), Mr Joseph Dicken presided over a somewhat small, though very representative, gathering. Mr Dicken said that, although he had not studied the question with that care which might be expected from the chairman, he felt sure the scheme, which would be explained by Mr Adamson, would prove very advantageous to Colwyn Bay. Mr O. A. Adamson, chairman of the Executive Committee of the local branch of the Y.M.C.A., then delivered a long, thoughtful and most con- vincing address explanatory of the Y.M.C.A. movement in general, and the Colwyn Bay for- ward movement in particular. The Y.M.C.A., as ome of us know, said he, is a Christian insti- tution whose object is the complete investment of the young manhood of the country with the necessary equipment to become capable and worthy citizens of the empire. There were at present upwards of 800,000 members of the brotherhood in all parts of the King's dominions. The movement had been initiated by a Welsh- man (Sir George Williams) in London, but though much excellent work had been done and was now done by the Association in England the principle of the scheme had not been applied to the national life of the country as had been the case in America, where it had attained so influential, useful and beneficial a position that the large railway companies, owners of the large engineering works, and the wealthy men of the country subsidised it to carry on its great work among the young manhood of the country (hear, hear). President Roosevelt and ex-President McKinley had given the movement their bless- ing, and there could be no gainsaying the, splendid help rendered by it to the nation. The, same principles should be carried out in this country, and especially with regard to the new hostel at Colwyn Bay (hear. hear). The speaker traced the progress of the local branch of the, Y.M.C.A., which has now a membership of about one hundred, and remarked that it was, practically the only movement of the kind that. had lived to see its fifth birthday in Colwyn Bay, The present buildings were. however, altogether inadequate, and it was while seeking better ac- commodation that the committee—who realise4 that they must "shut up or go forward"-struck; upon the idea of acquiring the property now sug- gested, with the object not only of providing suitable premises for the branch members, but to forward the work in a more ertensive and prac- tical manner. He was glad to say that Dr., Brooks, the owner of the property, had promised Mr Johnson, the secretary of the branch, and himself, not only to sell the property at a les4 sum than had been offered for it at a public; auction, but to give JElOO back in aid of tho funds (hear. hear). LODGING-HOUSE KEEPERS REASSURED. Mr Adamson proceeded to describe the plan for the reconstruction of the building, and re- marked .that it was proposed to provide accom- modation in the hostel for between 40 and 50 beds, and it had been estimated that if 500 young men took rooms there every year the hostel would enjoy a sufficient income to keep itself going without recourse to a further appeal to the townspeople. It had been suggested that by catering lor young men in that way the hostel would be robbing the Colwyn Bay lodging-house keeper of her livelihood. To that his emphatic reply was that .the hostel would enter into com- petition with no people. The Association had 100,000 members in various parts of the country, and by means of advertisements in the if.M.C.A. journals the attention of between 10,000 and 20,000 holiday-makers, who in all probability had rarely if ever heard of Colwyn Bay so far, would be directed to the hostel and the town. Their experience was that members flocked to the As- sociation's hostels in Blackpool, Margate, the Isle of Man, and elsewhere in preference to any other places where there were no hostels, be- cause they found a special atmosphere prepared for them in their own hostels, and they went to them with the certain assurance of comfort and satisfaction, and of meeting there a certain set of friends. By advertising in that manner they [would be able to attract to the hostel at least 500 young men every year, who would acquire a liking for the town, and who would in due course be followed by their parents, brothers, sisters, or sweethearts, all oi whom would, 01 course, engage rooms in the town. An instance of what I mean, said Mr Adamson, was experi- enced just recently' at Porthcawl, in South Wales. The Y.M.C.A. had a holiday camp there last September, and anyone who knows the place would tell you that practically the ordinary holi- day-makers would have left by that time, but as a matter of fact the lodging-houses ot the town were fairly full of visitors—the friends of the Y.M.C.A. men in camp (hear, hear). Far from detracting from the lodging-house keeper's income, he emphatically contended that the hostel would serne to increase it materially, because it would open up a now field from which they and the town in general would dr8,w (applause). The Chairman said he was of the opinion that the project would not interfere with lodging- house in Colwyn Bay, but rather it would do good. Mr Golden, one of the campaign secretaries, said he wanted it to be clearly understood that they were not running a rival institute with lodging-houses. He then outlined the case of Ryde, Isle of Wight, showing how it had bene- fited that place by the erection of a hostel. A list of boarding-houses to which young men could be recommended was kept there, as they could not always themselves accommodate all the. applicants. They were of opinion L, the move- ment would be good for Colwyn Bay. To make it a success they must have the town behind them. The scheme formulated would cost £8500, but they did not expect Colwyn Bay to find the whole of this. An appeal was to be made to the merchants of Liverpool. Manchester and Birmingham, whose young men they were going to benefit. Already they had about cne- third of the amount required promised. Councillor Geo. Bevan said he was of opinion that the scheme would be beneficial. The Y.M.C.A.had done remarkably well in comparison with other associations in the town. It seemed rather a pity that they had to move into larger quarters before the old ones were overflowing. At the same time, he thought the larger scheme would be more successful than anything previ- ously tried. It would do good, and if it realised anything- the expectations ;t. would bring fami- lies, who would stay "at the various boarding- houses. Their own experience sufficiently justi- fed them in saying that, for it had been strongly evidenced by the large numbers of people who came down when the boys were in camp. Mr Elcock appealed strongly for co-operation to establish the project, and proposed a vote of thanks to Mr Dicken for presiding. The Chairman, in thanking them for the vote of thanks, said he trusted the scheme would come to a successful issue. It would benefit Colwyn Bay, and he would do his utmost to support it. At the close, Mr Adamson said that if they did not carry out, the scheme another likely place would be Llandudno, and he could inform them that Lord Mostvn had been indirectly approached arid had promised to give a site. Llandudno people were thoroughly alive to the advantages of such an institution. In conclusion he pointed out that the present members had promised £ 500, working men who were only earning 308 a week having promised t 2.

HOLYWELL ASSESSMENT COMMITTEE. A COMPLAINT FROM CONNAMIS QUAY. At Holywell Board of Guardians, on Friday, the Clerk, on the instruction of the Assessment Committee of the Holywell Union, applied for sanction to appear as respondents in appeal cases against the rateable value of properties at Con- nah's Quay, at a special session on the 26th inst. Mr Reney (Connah's Quay) opposed any repre- sentation other than by the Clerk. The inhabi- tants of Connah's Quay felt the imposition of rates very heavily; they were 50 per cent higher now than a few years ago. Three years ago trade was booming, now the men of Connah's Quay were looking for work elsewhere, and it was difficult to get a tenant when a shop became empty. Only the other day some 60 ratepayers were summoned for rates-they had no money to buy bread let alone pay rent and rates. He hoped that some arrangement would be made to settle the valuations which were being appealed against. The Clerk explained that the Assessment Com- mittee had considered the matter, and it was probable some cases might be settled. If the parties were not satisfied the appeals might be carried further. After further discussion the necessary sanction was given to the application of the Assessment Committee

ABERGELE & PENSARN URBAN DISTRICT COUNCIL. SUGGESTED RE-APPORTIONMENT OF REPRESENTATION. COUNTY COUNCIL AND ROAD REPAIRING. The monthly meeting of the above Council was held on Monday evening, Mr John Hannah, J.P., presiding, and Mr Ed. Williams occupy- ing the vioe-chair. There were also present: Messrs H. E. Pritchard, J. Pierce, W. H. Jones, 1. Morris, W. P. Morrs, 1. Roberts, John Ed- wards, and Thomas Davies, with Mr E. A. Crabbe (clerk), and Mr M. R. Jones (surveyor and inspector). VOTE OF CONDOLENCE. The Vice-Chairman referred to the death of Mrs Lloyd Roberto, wife of Dr. Lloyd Roberta, tho medical officcr of health, and proposed that a letter of condolenc.e be sent to him. The Chairman seconded the vote of condo- lence, which was also supported by Mr and carried. THE GAS QUESTION. The Surveyor said he had been asked to pro- pare a return showing the number of mantlea used on the gas la.mps in the district. On the small Kirn burners, they had used 132, but b. did not thnk that it was a fair oomparison, see- ing that some of the burners were of old pat- terns, and used more mantles. The Larger burn- ers, with the self-intensifying apparatus, had used 168 mantles. There were eight of these lamps, which, on a basis of twelve months' use, worked out at lOa per lamp per annum for mantles alone. Mr Pritchard said the question as to the man- tles had been raised by Mr Judson, who had argued that there would be a saving of about in 95 per cent. on the improved system. ALLEGED INEQUALITY OF THE WARDS. Mr W. P. Morris brought forward his motion to &ik the County Council to take steps to re- medy the present anomaly of tho Pensarn Ward returning six members to that Council, whereas Abergele only returned a like number, notwith- standing the fact that there was no comparison on the basis of population. He beieved the- were about 74 electors in the Pensarn Ward to some 378 or 380 in Aberg-ole-tigures which showed what inequality of representation xist. eci. He asked the Council to now move in the matter, as he had reason to know that unless they did something, the ratepayers of Abergele would, of their own accord, petition the Countv Council to deal with the subject, and it would be far better that it should come from the Urban Council. The proportion of representatives was, in his opinion, absolutely unfair, and he con- tended that the present state of things could not be justified. Mr John Edwards moved that no steps be taken in the matter. Mr W. H. Jones seconded Mr W. P. Morris, and said he considered it was most unfair that both parts of the town should have equal repre- sentation when there was such a wide difference in population. A discussion followed" in the course of which it was pointed out that it might happen that when a Pensarn member occupied the chair that the ward with the smaller population had the majority in voting power, the Chairman having a casting vote. Mr Pritchard asked what gain there would be to Abergele if there was an alteration. He was not aware that the Pensarn members had ever voted against anything that would tend t,) the improvement of Abergele, and the Abergele members had never voted against Pensarn pro- jects. They were there as one body, and not as two separate bodies. The intercsf13 of both wards were identical: then why change the representa- tion? It had been admitted that Pensarn was the pioneer of the movement in that district for obtaining urban powers,and at that time Abergele were not at all anxious to join them. It, was only when Pensarn w-ent in for a drainage scheme that Abergele'people a?ked to be allowed to join in. Now, when Abergele had grown, they wanted to take away the fair sharing of the powers, which were arranged for at the time. He considered that, the proposal was a very un- fair one. The Chairman said those who favoured the proposed change forgot the circumstances und which the arrangement was made. He was in the district when the Pensarn people first ob- tained governing powers. They were deter- mined to go on, but as regards Abergele there were obstacles in tho way as at that time they were governed by the St. Asaph Rural Sanitaiy Authority, and had to pay enormously for the privilege. Pensarn people, however, stuck to their guns, and undertook, at great expenv to themselves, the drainage schame. They had had the courage of their convictions. When Abergele asked to be permitted to join them they were treated very fairly, and he did not think that the Abergele people should now go back on their bargain. He did not agree that the number of inhabitants aloflc should be the predominant factor in the case, and thought that the ques- tion of rateable value sho lid also operate. They, would find that as regards rateable value Pen- sarn was almost equal to Abergele. Mr J. Pierce did not see why the question should be raised at that time. Mr W. P. Morris pointed out that Abergele had paid a rate of 6d in the JB, as a special sewerage rate. Mr Pierce said he would object to the pro- posal, as he did not thiuk there was anything to bo gained by dividing the district on such a question. They were one Council, and the ques- tion of one ward agaiwit the other did not arise. He considered that. the people of Pensarn had shown great, magnanimity towards Abergele, as several of the councillors elected to represent Pensarn Ward were residents in Abergele. Mr W. P. Morns said that he was not seeking votes. The Vice-Chairman supported the motion, on the ground that it was right and just. It wagg not with him a matter of sentiment. The rate- able value of Abergele had steadily increased* but that of Pensarn had not. The Chairman: It is nearly as high. The Vice-Chairman replied that that was ow- ing ) an accidental cause- Pensarn had the railway station. Mr Isaac Morris moved that a public meeting be called to consider the question, but this was not seocuided. In reply to a question, Mr W. P. Morris said he did not ai,k for a reduction in the number of member's for Pensarn; that would be a utatiex for the County Council when they drafted their scheme. It was here pointed out that if Abergele re- presentation increased it was bound to mean less voting power for Pens-i-rn. On a division, Mr W. P. Morris' motion was lost by 5 to 4. THE CHAPEL-STREET IMPROVEMENT. A letter was r,a4i from the County Council asking why it was that certain land in Chapel- st-rect had not bc:.J1 purchased for widening and improving the road, as was provided for in the original scheme. The Clerk explained that everything had been prepared for tine purchase of the additional land. but in view of the increased price the Council did not think it advisable to go on witib tho matter. Mr Pierce pointed out that the County Coun- cil had not paid anything' for the additional land, so that it was not the sa.ms as if the money had been obtained and not used. OOr OF MAIN ROADS. It was reported that the County (kv.incil had refused to sanction the estimate of the Council far the repair., to the main roads, and would not advance from their original offer of £ 210 for what the Council wanted £ 270. The Clerk .said that the only way out of the difficulty was for the Council to go on with their work, and to do it as cheaph as posrible, mak- ing a claim in duo course for the amount actu- ally spent. The County Council oouid not say, that they had not had notice. The matter was left in the hands of the offi- cials to deal with. NORTH WALES UNIVERSITY COLLEGE, Mr Judson wai re-appointed to represent tihe Council on the Court, of Governors of the North Walca University College.

PENMAENRHOS. PREACHING MEETINGS.—The annual preaching mec<iLngs in connection with Bethel Chapel v, ere beld during Tuesday and yesterday afternoon. Yesterday- evening the services were held at Hernion (o..v.} Chapel, Old Cohvyn. The special preachers were Rev J. J. Williams, Pent re, Rhondda, and Rev Job MileSc Aberystwyth.

LLANDDULAS. RETURNED TO DUTY.—The Rector (Rev Canon C. F. Roberts) has so far recovered from his recent illness that he was able to take charge of both the morning and evening services on Sunday last.

According to the present mentions of the Government (the Central Newi nays) Parliament will be prorogued on or before Wednesday, 23rd December, and will reassemble in the second week of Febcu&ry,. ;«J