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CONWAY BOARD OF GUARDIANS. V (COLWYN RAY OVERSEERS' PROTEST AGAINST COUNTY EXPENDITURE. AN INVALID WIFE'S HARD LOT. Mr P. H. McClemcnt presided over tho gjjonthly meeting of this authority on Friday- Jphere were also present: Mrs A. J. Oldman, JMrs Lloyd, Mrs Barrow Williams, Miss Champ xieys, Miss Williams, Rev. Canon D. Jones, Rev. J Raymond, Rev. Phillips Jones, Messrs J- VV fUvnes, Ed. Williams, llu«fh Hughes, R. fcliis, &• J. Oldman, John Williams, Rd. Jones, Evan Evans, Aneurin Jonee, W. Wilkinson, R. Wil- liams, J. T. Taylor, W. F. Jones, David Jones, Owen Hughes, R. Roberts, \V atkin Darbishire, Ed. Jones, with the clerk (Mr T. E. Parry), the deputy clerk (Mr A. J. Post), and other ofli- O0XS NEGLECTED FORMALITIES. Mr W. F. Jones, referring to a letter from the of one erf the parishes, asked whether on assistant overseer had been appointed for the parish- The Clerk replied that there were several par- ishes in the Union which had no assistant over- rs, so far as he was officially aware. In fact Uandudno, Llanelian, and Gyttin were the only parishes throughout the Union which had for- mally complied with the regulations on that Blatter. Mr W. F. Jones: Why? fEhe Olerk said that it was the duty of the Various Parish Council Oo formally notify hiin (bf the appointment of assistant o\'or-x:v>rs. Mr Hugh Hughes (Colwyn Bay) inquired Whether a formal notification had boon made in the case of the parish of Llandnllo- fTho Clerk: Oh, yea; I left that out of the Slumber by mistake. Llandrillo have their assis- tant oveit-ePT. Mr Parry added that it was of importance that the appointments be officially feportod, because unlegg that -vexe done the Board had not the slightest proof to bring be- fore tihe magistrates in case of defaulting par- ishes. It was decided, on the motion of Mr 0. W. Roberts, seconded by Mr Edward Jones, that the various parish authorities oonoernod be ask- bd to formally notify the Board of the appoint- tnent of assistant overseers. CONTRACTOR BOUND TO HIS CONURAOT. Mr J. P. Griffiths, of Regent House, Con- yay, wrote that "for obvious reasons," he with- dronv his tender to supply certain articles to the Board. In reply to a member, rrhe Assistant Clerk said that the only con- tract reoontly decided in favour of Mr Griffiths Sras that to supply a number of trifling articles. It was proposed that the matter be referred fcack to committee- Mr 0. W. Robeirts said that the principle of allowing a contractor to withdraw in that man- ner was a wrong one, and he moved as an Amendment that the oontractor be held respon- goble for his contract. trhis was seconded, and on a division eleven Jfotes were cast on either side. The Chairman The voting1 ia therefore even. I feel I must give my casting vote in favour of fcho amendment that the contractor be bound to iiis contract. COUNTY COUNCILS- EXTRAORDINARY EXPENDITURE. A PROTEST FROM OOLWYN BAY. The overseers of the parish of Llandrilloyn- felios (Colvvfcn Bay) wrote acknowledging the Jteooipt of the Board's order with res{>oot to Jfnaking provision in the parish for contributing 5059 to the common fund of the union, and adding that as the Board were the levying authority they (the overseers) desired to point previous call. Under the circumstances they out that that amounb was E1889 in excess of the desired to enter their most emphatic protest against "the continued increase in the demands upon the parish which were becoming unbear- able." Mr Hugh Hughes (Colwyn Bay) spoke in support of the letter, and said the increase was altogether unreasonable, and he thought it was the duty of the Board to p-rpvct against the expenditure by the County Council of Denbigh. The Assistant Clerk, in reply to the Chair- man, said that, though the expenditure on poor law administration had go-ne down rather than increased during' the same period, the demands upon the Llandrillo-yn-Rhos parish had gone up of recent years as Ioll<),w :-Year ending Ladv Day, 1903, £ 726; 1904, E2128 -1 1905, £ 3604; 1906" £ 4972; 1907, £ 5666; 1908, J66142, c-arrezit year, J66428 ("shame"). Mr J. T. l\iylor pointed out that to the gene- ral public Lh3 position was very misleading. Ratepayers were continually making complaints of the increase in the rates, but that; was not the fault of the Board, but of the County Coun- oil (hoar, hear). The statement made by the Assistant Clerk should bo published broadcast, so that tho ratepayers should oorae to a proper understanding as to why the expenditure went up. There should be a strong protest against the actions of the County- Council, especially considering the present state of affairs in the count.ry. Mr Aneurin Jones mmarked that Mr Raynes had uixsuooeasfully sought to ventilate a matter of the same nature at the previous Board meet- ing'- The Board could not regulate the work- ings of the County Council, but they could let the public know what proportion of the money was spent by the County Council. He thought the Board's own aooount and that of the Coun- ty Council should be kept separately and dis- tinctly apart so that the true position could be revealed (hoar, hear). The poor rate was ex- cessive, but the poor did not get the monet). Canon Jones (Ponmaonmawr) said it was not their duty to rnak" representations to the Coun- ty Council, who were quite as much guardians of the public purse as the Board were, but he agreed that it should 00 made perfectly clear how much of the expenditure went towards poor law administration and to County Council work respectively (hear. hear). Mr A. J. Old man asked whether the rate- payors were not provided with the necessary explanation on the back of their demand notes? The Chairman: Not, in all coses. Tho facts are printed on the back of the demand1 notes in some cases, but not in others. Mr Oldman: Then, that is the fault of the overseers. Mr Hugh Hughes pointed out that that would be impossible in some cases. At Colwyn Bay, for instance, they collected the rate only once a year, but the Board's calls came in twice a year. Mr Raynes said that the Denbighshire Council was not the only offender in that matter. Their contributions to the Carnarvonshire Council in 1894-95 amounted to E3230, whereas for the year 1905-06 the amount was £ 15,096. The Chairman observtHl that they were going over the same ground year after year in that connection. The Board had endeavoured pre- viously to make the position quite clear, but the Llandrillo overseers appeared still to be under the impression that the Board wore responsible for the increased expenditure. Mr Hugh Hughes: No, no; we know the position, but we feel that a protest from this Board would be much stronger than one from the overseers of Llandrillo only. We know well where the money is going to. Rev. Peter Jones urged that the Board made the protest as well as the overseers. The Chairman said the word lavish" was made use of in connection with the County Council's expenditure, and he suggested that that, should not be used until they could prove that the money was spent lavishly. Mr E. Williams said there was no doubt but that there was lavish expenditure somewhere. For instance, according to report of the last -1. -h_- County Council meeting at Colwyn Bay about E7000 had been spent upon road-making con- sequent upon motor car traffic, whilst in return they had only received E114 from the motorists in return. Mr Hugh Owen reminded the Board that the County Council's expenditure must necessarily have increased of late years in consequence of the expense on education. There were schools in the county unfit for habitation some years ago, and upon their improve ment a large sum of money had been spent. Moreover, he did not think they should be satisfied to build schools to-day on the lines, in point of sanitation, ventila- tion and lighting, of the old schools. They should look at the matter in the liuht of the improvements effected in the school life of their children. He could assure them that the Car- narvonshire Council were very careful over their expenditure, and if the demands made for new schools and improvements were acceded to the amount of their bill would be vastly increased. He thought they should encourage rather than condemn the county bodies in their efforts to do good, in any event they would reveal a good deal of ignorance if they protested against the in- creased expenditure in the manner suggested by some of the speakers. Mr Raynes said that whatever Mr Owen might say of the expenditure by the Carnarvonshire Council it was a fact that the schools in some of the districts were in a very good condition when they were taken over, and if the Carnar- vonshire authority spent upon the teaching of ,3 scholars what was paid to the secretaries the former would be much better off (laughter). He a^ketl that a protest be also sent to the Carnar- yonshire Council. Mr Oldm an: But we have had no letter from a Carnarvonshire narish making complaints, so that the care is different. The Chairman agreed, and ruled that it would be out of order to adopt Mr Rt vn(, suggestion. On the motion of Mr Oldman the clerk was directed to write the Denbighshire Council call- ing their attention to the matter indicated by the Llandrillo overseers. A HARD CASE FROM COLWYN BAY. Irii Llovd called attention to the case of a Colwyn Bay wom¡Tl who had been admitted to the workhouse, because she was suffering from an incurable disease. The speaker explained that she had boen prevailed upon to take up the case, and from inquiries made she found it was a very hard one. The woman's husband was alive, and when at work earned 18s per week, but as the woman was so helpless he was unable to leave his home except for very brief intervals with the result that he and the invalid wife were in a very serious plight. Under the cir- cumstances the woman had been removed to the workhouse infirmary, but she (Mrs Lloyd) was surprised to find that the woman had been re- cently discharged from the house by order of the committee. The speaker complained that Mr 0. W. Roberts and Miss Champneys, the mover and seconder of the resolution in com- mittee, should have taken such a step. In reply to Mrs Lloyd, The Clerk said it was illegal to keep a woman in the workhouse whose husband was physically able to earn a living. Mr O. W. Roberta and Miss Champneys re- plied to Mrs Lloyd at some length, Miss Champneys jwinting out that the oommittee had merely acted on the ground that to do otherwise would be illegal, and that two cases of a pre- cisely similar character from Llandudno had been similarly dealt with. The matter subsequently dropped.
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The Secretary for War, at Glasgow on Saturday, said that Great Briton was never so well prepared foi emergencies as at the present moment. He said that after a careful survey of the situation, and at a time when all indications were for a period of peace. Gwennie Boseombe, of Rejermh, Cornwall, who has just left school, had, rot mis3cd a single attendance in seven years, and had never been late. She had to walk five miles each day, and her journeys to and from schoul amounted to 7,677 miles.
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CONWAY I RlTRAL I)ISTRICT COUNCIL. WORKMEN'S HOURS OF Ef.5Pi.QYWS EST. FOCTPATH PRESCRVATSON: COUNCIL'S DUTIES LLANDUDNO JUNCTION LIGHTiNG SYSTEM. Mr U. Ellis presided over the monthly meeting of this authority on Friday. There were also present: — Messrs J. W. Raynes, J.P., Aneurin Jones, E. J. Evans, Ed. Williams, Hugh Owen, Be-Il Fisher, Kvan Evans, R. Jones, R. WilLam, an 1 W. F. J lies, with the clerk (Mr T. K 1'arry), the surveyors (Mesoia Levi John and John Davies). WORKMEN'rf HOURS OF EMPLOYMENT. At the previous Council meeting tho Finance Com- mittee re*011:111 .nded that the working h urs oi the Council's ruad bu" ers be as fallows :—Monday to Friday, morning, Z to 12 a.m.; attenvjon, fioni 1 till "0 p.m. Saturdny, from 7 a.m. till 1 p.m. It was further rc-e jmmeuded that when a workman was called upon to assist in loading cart., with metalling his hours ho the same as those oi the carter (8 hours); that "when a workman be called upon to work over- time the pay for llw first quarter (2 hours) will be according h tlu r:tte for another quarter of the day, the second q .^rter wiil be pay and a half, and also "that aii men be allowed two days' leave of absence annually, namely Christmas Day and Whil-Monday." After some discussion this report was referred back to the oommittee, who now "recommended that the Ciii'.icil bo asked to defer this question for a month, an,l that in the meantime (he Clerk obtain par- ticulars fr. in other rural district councils a3 to the workillg hours and lh duties of their workmen gen- erally." Mr Raynes proposed that the first recommendation of the committee be adopted. Mr Ed. Williams explained that the committee felt this to be "a very delicate ruattn," and that under the circumstances they should ascertain what was done by other rural authorities. The committee had also been pressed for time to give the matter due consideration. Mr liezi Fisher seconded Mr Raynes' motion. Mr Hugh Owen said he saw no harm in adjourn- ing that matter for another month -0 as to get the desired information from other Councils. They should ac; with due regard for justice to lie raie;>ayeis' and the working men. Mr Aneurin Jones said he thought some regsrd should be had to the invest Rations made ly the Finance Committee previous to the conclusions ar rived a in the first place. To Jefer tl null': in that manner month after month ww SLrly jirJtrir- ahle. and he saw nothing unreasonable in the origiiii proj'.os»als of the commit t o. He did not know why they should be governed by outside authorities; they were there to conduct th ir business in a manner that seetned to them fair and proper to ratepayers and workmen. The committee merely proposed to give their workmen privileges enjoyed by those em- ployed by private people. The Council should be ideal employers, forming an example that other emplnyprs should follow. The gained nothing by meting out unfair treatment to their workmen it would, in fact, be to the benefit of the Council generally to treat them at least as well as they were treated by private employers. Mr Hugh Owen paid he did not think Mr Jones had any right to suppose that the committee intended to do anything unjustly by their workmen. All they wanted to do was to assure themselves on certain matters rather than rush into an action which they might .,uLsPiuentJy regre* Tiis Chairman I understand that fr Jones thinks )he workmen would be suffering to a certain extent by our delaying this matter any further. Mr Aneurin Jones Ye"" an 1 I consider the dignity of the Council will a1:o smrcr. Mr Raynes pointed out that before submitting their first recommendation the Finance Cbnimittre lu l had information with reference to the treatment of men similarly engaged HIder the County Council. On a division, it was decided by six votes to three that the matter be deferred for a month as recommended on this occasion by the committee. The majority were: Messrs Evan Evans, E. J. Ev me Ed. Williams, H. Owen, Rd. Jones and R. Willia I ihe minority Me?srs Raynes, Aneurin Jones and B Fisher. NEW PROPERTY. Plans were approved of a proposed new road at Old Colwyn to be called Bodelwydtlen Avenue; an addition to Flas-yn-Rce, Rocwen four cottages at Didgarrog for the Aluminium Corpur3tion, Ltd. aJ- terations to Brvn Hyfrvtl, Penrhynside, and a pair of cottages for Mr W. F. Jonas, of Bodidda. FINANCE. The Finance Committee reported a balance in the Conway district's favour at the banJ, oi 121 -:> iij., and the Glan Conway district of iCI89 165 9d. EXTRAORDINARY TRAFFIC. Mr Ben Fisher called attention to the condition of the road leading from Ta.lyca.fn to Ty'nygroes, it1 consequence, he alleged, of extraordinary triffic carried out in connection wish the Aluminium Cor- poration's Works at Dolgarrog, and remarked that the County Council were receiving large cheques from the Company for damage done to their roads, but the Conway authority received none because tli.-y did not press their claims against the Company, lie proposed that the Company be asked to com- pensate the Council for the use of the road. Mr Raynes seconded, and this was unanimously agreed to. LLYSFAEN WATER SUPPLY., The surveyor (Mr John) reported that the com- mittee appointed to enquire into this matter had met and iiispec-ted the portions of Llysfaen pari?li which are not satisfactorily supplied with water by gravitation, and they recommended that the pipes supplying water from the reservoir be extended from Pe\1lw,I's-road through the proposed new road and join the existing pipe in :\or.iri:¡d:;g.road, from Plas (iwilym to Pcndytfryn, and from Boddehvyddan Avenue through the propose 1 Watkin Avenue, at an ostimated cost of about £220, that the work be com- menced forth.with, and that the Local Government Board he asked to sanction a loan to cover the cost. The report was adopted. OLD COLWY STREET LIGIITING. Mr John rpp"r(.c<1 meeting Mr Pennington, tho gas manager to the Colwyn Bay Urban District C,t'i1, in reference to the fixing of a gas lamp in Wellington- load, Old Colwyn. Mr Pennington promised that the work would be put in hand immediately. PENRHYN WATER SUPPLY AGAIN. The water supply to the higher levels of Penrhyn is still very bad, reported Mr Jdw, and very seldom miehes the tanks of the top houses. I don't think they have had a night's simply for a considerable time. As the Coulyd Board found means to improve the supply to a portion of Colwyn Bay, is it not ;*>ssil>le that they can do something in this case, such an arranging the valves at Sarn Mynach or any other place, so as to keep the pressure up to ISOibs., eity for two nights a week. Mr Raynes: How can the Cowlyd Beard arrange t11in ? Mr John They can close the valve just a little one or twice a week so as to allow the pressure to keep up for about ten hours at a time. Of course, if it is not kept up for fen hours the water will not reach renrhynside. but if it is, it will, and their tanks there can be filled. I think this could be done once or twice a week at least to give the place a supply. Mr Raynes: This is very much lilie referring the question of workmen's duties to the Finance Com- mittee. Mr E. Evans emphasised the importance of the Surveyor's suggestion, and remarked that the position w:\ now so sarious at Penrhvndde that unless some- thing was done soon the place would be ruined. He thought it was very unfair that Penrhynside should be bereft of a drop of water whilst Llysfaen was reported to be wasting 32,000 gallons of water every month. He hoped the srggesfion would be adoptea Mr Raynes What Mr Evans has said to the cff< ct that Llysfaen has been wasting 33,000 gallons of water every month is totally untrue. May we know what is his authority fur stating that V Mr L. John What Mr Evans has said is quite incorrect. Mr Raynes I must ask Mr Evans to prove his state- ment or to withdraw it. Mr Evans: It was in a report of the Cowlyd Board meeting that I saw it. Mr Rayn" And it was denied there, too. Mr Anourin Jones: It was a eharge which was never proved. With due respect to the gentlemen of the press, all that appears in print is not to be reliod upon. The Board went so far as to engage a special inspector to go round the Llysfaen district and that gentleman's report did not substantiate one single word as to Llysfaen wasting water. Mr Jones proceeded to say it was not because they did not sympathise with the Penrhynside residents—nobody would more readily assist them than the members for Llysfaen,—but when Mr Evans made a sweeping charge against Llysfaen, he should at least give his authority. Mr Raynes repeated his request that Mr Evans withdrew his assertion. Mr Evans: I am very pleased to ao 110 as long as I am wrong. I was under the Impression that it was right because I saw it in the papers. Mr John I don't think Llysfaen or Colwyn Bay can help Penrhynside in the least. It is for the Cowlyd Board to see that the pressure is kept up to 1;:0ll;. for a certain relied; IVnrliynside will get water then. On the motion of Mr Hugh Owen, seconded by !,Ir W. F. Jones, it was decided that the Cowlyd Board be asked to do as >uggesfed by til2 Surveyor. PRESERVATION OF COMMONS AND FOOTPATHS. Mr Ben Fi.-her, rderriflg to another part of the Surveyor's report, said thut from what transpired at the last meeting of the C mndl it was evident that some of the members were under a misappre- hension as to the duties and powers of the Council with regard to public footpaths and common rights. Since the meeting he had received the following let- ter from the Prescivalioii of Footpaths' Society:—"I gather that the District Council came to tho con- clu ion that the matter of the protection of foot- paths has nothing to do with District Councils, but should be dealt with by I'urlsii Councils. If the re- port. which I saw in the 'Manchester Guarii-iii, is correct, there can be 110 doubt that the District Council fails to appreciate its duties under the Local Government Act, IS9t. Tou will observe that Section 26 of that Act places upon District Councils tho obligation of protecting public paths within their area., and that for the purpose of preventing ob- structions all that a Parish ('1I!H'il can do is to re- present the facts to the Disiiict Council and collect evidence for that body's consideration, and if the District Council should fail to move, the Parish COUll. cil has power to petition Ili CO!lIIty Council. If the path has been overgrown in su -h a way that it has been obstructed, it is obvious that the District Coun- eil should remove the obstructions. The Perish I Council has power to keep in repa;r any public foot- paths not being paths situate at the side of a car- riage road. The society wiD be happy to give you any further information if you should need it." The Clerk pointed out that the Council had carried out the instructions of the writers to the letter. Mr Fisher: The reason why I read the letter was on account of the little friction that occurred at the last meeting between myself and a member, who, I am sorry, is not present here to-day. Continuing, Mr Fisher said he thought the Council had been very 8hek in the matter of safeguarding common r glits, and it was time they appreciated their duties thereon. In reply to Mr Raynes, The Clerk said a Parish Council kept footpaths in repair, and if i h':re were any obstructions they were to report them to the Rural District Council so that proceedings could he taken by them. If the rural authority did not take action the Parish Council cer- tainly had the power to to the County Coun- cil for help. The Rural District C;iiii(-il had been very particular about safeguarding the public rights, and in two or three instances they had compelled those who had encroached npon common land to pay for the privilege to the Parish Councils. Mr Fisher referred to a case at Glanoonwav, and added that, there had b-ei a Lwk of interest or ini- tative in the matter on the part of some person or body. Mr Raynes I take it it is the duty of the Parish Council to report such matters to us? The Clerk: Certainly. I may pay we have drawn the attention of the Glane >nway Farish Council to all encroachment upon common land there. Mr E. Williams proposed that the Surveyor pre- pare a report upon all cases of encroachments through, out the district, and this was agreed to. It was also decided fo subscribe a guinea a year towards the Sot iety's funds. LLANDUDNO JUNCTION LIGHTING. Messrs Iriam, Johnston and Grey appeared as a deputation 011 behalf of the Llandudno Junction Rate- jiayers' Association with all application that the Coun- cil provide tire appliances in their part- of the Junc- tion district, and furl her (hat the Council did not oppo>e, but on the contrary supported the steps to be taken to ensure Mr the district a gas lighting gyst em. The Clerk after reading th" letters from the Asso. ciation touching the two requests, explained that the ()d!1l1,'il had no power to deal with either, because ¡' iii- only Ix)wer for fire appliances was from Lian- gwstenin Parish Council while the Rural District Coun- cil had no power cither to oppose or support, the gas lighting Bill. lighting Bill. It was here pointed out that the Bill referred to was that to be promoted in Parliament giving the Con- way Corporation power to supply gas outside the borough. Mr Johnson: Do you charge for highway lighting? The Clerk Yes. Mr Johnson: Then why don't they get it? The Clerk: They get it as far as the estimates of this committee go. The Chairman: If the Council could assist you they would do their bpt. but as you see, both ques- tions are beyond our Jurisdiction. Mr Irlam expressed the sincere hope that, the Coun- cil would not oppose the Bill, and remarked that he had numbers of applications f,,r houses at the Junc- tion, but when people heard there was no gas a,- commodation they invariably proceeded ei.her to Col- wyn Bay or Llandudno to live. wyn Bay or Llandudno to live. Several speakers assured him that the Council had neither power nor desire to oppose the Bill, but that on the contrary they would be g!ad to help the Association if they could. Mr Irlam and Mr Johnson cordially thanked the Council for their sympathy and kind consideration.
FREEMASONRY AT COLWYN BAY
FREEMASONRY AT COLWYN BAY INSTALLATION OF BRO. F. HADLEY. The Festival of St. Juhn and Installation of the St. Trillo Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons (No. 2,o69) was held on Friday evening at the Freemason's Hall, Colwyn Bay. There was a large gathering of the members and visitors, including the Provincial Grand Master (W. Bro. Henry Platt, C.B.) and the Deputy Provincial Grand Master (W. Bro. Edward RoberJ). Bro. Felix Hadley, S.W., of Conway, was installed in the chair, the I.P.M., W. Ero. W. A. Tuxford, being the Installing Master, assisted by W. Bro. J. G. Tux. ford. P.M., G. P., Tieas.. P.P.G.S.W., P. Asst. D. of C. (Eng.), W. Bro. James Porter, P.M., P.P.G.J.W., W. Bro. T. E.V-,irdy, P.M., and W. Bro. Dr. Marriot, T.M. The new W.M., appointed and invested the follow- ing as his officers for the ensuing vear :—Bro. S. j Homer, S. W., Bro. II. J. Wright, J. W. W. Bro. Owen Rowland. P.P.G.J.. treasurer; W. Bro. C. M. Lees, P.M. P.P.G.O., secretary; Bro J. F. Francis, S.D. Bro, A. C. Meyer, J.D. W. Bro. J. Ct. Tuxford, D. of C. Bro. T. J. Linekar, Org. Bro. J. C. Pennington. I.G. Bro J. E. Conway Jones, S.S. Bro. William Jones, M.I.C.E., J.S. and Bro. W. Wrench, Tyler. The banquet was afterwards held at the Imperial Hotel.
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