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CARNARVONSHIRE AND ANGLESEY…
CARNARVONSHIRE AND ANGLESEY ASSIZES. BIGAMY AND ATTEMPTED BURGLARY AT LLANDUDNO. FALSE PRETENCES AT HOLYHEAD. CAREER OF A "DOCTOR OF SCIENCE. The Joint Winter Assizos for the counties of Carnarvon&ire and Anglesey weiro held at ^'OarccU'von on Tuesday, before Mr Justice A. )T. Lawrence. t Wilh the magnificent coach, in which the '■Ttidg'J and the High-Sheriff (Mr C, G. Assheton- Bmith, of Yayiioi) rode, as the oentre of at- !ftractian, the procession which was on the same sh scale as at the previous Assize, at- tracted much attention. In front of the coach were eight stalwart quarrymen, and be- Jaind were a similar number, all wearing suit- 'able livery, with silk hat", adorned with "Cockades. As the procession, at the head of J'lWhich were two trumpeters with beautiful 'iiand worked silk banners, passed the old stle) tihe band of the Llanberis Company of )he Iloyal Welsh Fusiliers (Territorials) struck the National Anthem. The band also ;played selections outside the Sportsman Hotel Hariri g lun-ch. The TTigh Sheriff, who vroro the uniform of a Deputy Lord-Lieutenant, was accompanied on the Bench by Mrs A^sheton Smith, the Eon. Violet Vivian, Miss Morgan, Plae Oood- mor; Mr Gore Langton, Lady Lawrence, Mr EL C. Vincent (Messrs Ca.rtor, Vincent and 00.), who acted as Under Sheriff in the ab- feence through illness of Mr H. Lloyd Garter, Send tha Sherifi's Chaplain (the Rev J. T. '"janes, Portdinorwic). GRAND -TURY. The following constituted the grand jury:- Col. Sir Thomas H. Marshall, K.C.B. (fore- man) Messrs William Pughe, David Pierce [Williams, Griffith Jones Roberts, Henry Lewis. [A W. S. Williams, J, W. Wyatt, Ernest iN&eie, T. E. Roberts, Owen Jonee, W. G. Thomas, E. Norman Davies, R. B. Ellis, Bichard Thomas, Edwaird Hughes, Robert R. Roberts, Maurice T. Morris, Robert Williams, R. Newton, Dr Lloyd Williams, Dr R. H. Miil« Roberts, and Dr Robert Parry. CHARGE TO THE GiRAND JURY. In charging the grand jifry, the Judge con- gratulated them upon the state of crime in Anglesey and Carnarvonshire*. He thought Jiiat only seven prisoners was a respectably small number having regard to the length of time which had elapsed since the last Assize. rrhe cases to come before them were not of an exceptional nature, but such as they were, unfortunately, only too familiar with. Tie regretted that there wero three prisoners, and four ohargws of burglarious entering or house- breaking, which wae not a crime that ho would have expected in this part of the world, but, unfortunately, crime was committed ,where it as least expected, and he had occa- gion to recognise that fact recently himsalf. It wae, a crime which was more serious than o,ppeared at first tight; it was not only the Icet property, but the terror which was caused to the householder. Not only did the house- holder suffer by the damage to his doors and rjrindows, but the whole neighbourhood was SJarmedj and life became a burden to the in- habit i.ate. One of the prisoners was charged frrith a rather unusual offence, he being in- dicted under a Statute of Edward III., and jis far ae, he (the Judge) knew, there had been Do similar indictment for a great many years, -but it was clear that if what was alleged Against the accused waa true, it constituted a àrime. The charge was that of going armed in such a way as to terrify the people who ero present on the occasion in question. In past times it was the custom for all persons to carry aims, but that was not the kind of "going armed' that the Statute dealt with, but "going armed" ae to terrify people. The acanted in this case seemed to have met a little girl, and after some slight conversation jwith hex, he told her to go uito a glade in the wood, but she very properly declined. -Aftez,wards he produced a revolver, and threatened to shoot her father. That was going armed within tho meaning of the Statute, and was calculated to terrify even the most strong minded, and in common Itw it would be an assault. The accused did not shoot anyliody, but his conduct was highly dangerous. People with revolvers perhaps did not mean to shoot, but they had no busi- pess to toy with dangerous weapons. AN UNFORTUNATE MATRIMONIAL EXPERIENCE. .William Edward Whiteley (34), oabdriver, Llandudno, pleaded guilty to an indictment for marrying on September 25, 1907, at Llan- idudno, Margaret Eleanor, his former wife, to whom he was previously maaried on Septemoer 30th, 1895, being then alive. Mr R. O. Roberts, who appeared for the ac- Jbused, explained that after hving a short time :with his firet wife she de-serted h;m, End he <J.id not see anything of her tor seven or e,f,Íit years, and he maimed the second woman about a year ago. He met his first wife about tax or seven years after the marriage, and he 1d her that he bad been offered eanploy- knent for himself and also for herself as house- keeper, but she refused to return to him. Jt jwas rather a sad case, as '-ne accused bad offered to take his first wife Lack again. M.r Trevor Lloyd (Insttructed by Messrs Marks and Marks, Llandudno), who appeared for the prosecution, stated that the woman with whom the accused went thiough the form of marriage on Lhe second occasion did rot know that he had been married. Richard Billington, stated that hie sister married the accused in 1895, and after they had Lirsd together for four or five years they separated. The Judge How came they to be separated? Witness: I don't know the facta of the The Judge You are quite right to say so. Alice Owen, the second wife of the accused, informed the Judge that she did not know, .when she married him, that he ,was already married. She was employed at an hotel at jlhe time. Mr Roberts: Who told you that. the accused iwas married?—My mother got to know. D:d you continue to live with him?—Yes. Has he been good to you?—Yes, and we lived Jiappily. The aocmsed said that his first wife brought 6 summons against him for misconduct, and she .as granted a separation oxdm and ITs a week, but nothing had been paid. He had Sfcsked her to join him again, but she refused. Tho Judge, in sentencing the accused, re- toarked that his matrimonial life had evi- dently been an unhappy one. He might think iJlat was some excuse, but he had deceived fills young woman, and the only fact ill miti- tion of his conduct was that he had treated her well. He had apparently conducted him- pelf rn a respectable manner. Taking into oon-suierstion the fact that he had been in prison for four months already, he would te sentenced only to one calendar month's im- prisonment, iATTEMPTBD BUIK3LAR1Y AT LLANDUDNO. A DRUNKEN FREAK. George Hughes (37) pleaded guilty to a charge of attempting to commit a burglary at the dwelling house of Elizabeth Parker, Vandudno, Mr T. E. Morris (instructed by Messrs Marks and Marks) prosecuting, stated that the ac- cused WM found attempting to remove the putty from a window at the house of Elisabeth Parker, and he made a statement that be had been on the booze that day, and that he had heard there was "tons of gold" in the house (laughter). The Judge: Does the constable say that he iwas drank? Mr Morris: Yes. The Judge said the only thing in the ac- cused's favour was that the house was an empty one. That he attempted to commit the crime was perfectly clear, but it was not jpite ao terrifying to go into an kowal as it was to go into one which was inhabited. No doubt drunkenness was at the bottom of the case, but drunkenness was no excuse, and men oou'd not get drunk with impunity es- pecially when drunkenness led to the commis- sion of crime. The sentence would bo two months with hard labour. A YOUNG MAX'S LAPSE. Lemuel Pierce (18), described on the calen- dar as an iron planer, p'eaded guilty to a charge of breaking and entering a counting house at Waenfawr, the property of the North Wales Narrow Gauge Railway, and stealing £1 10s 7:td. MT T. E. Morris (instructed by Mr J. T. Ho- berts) said that the accused was arrested at Shrewsbury, he having disappeared for two yeairs after oommitting the offence. Ho v. as already committed to the Montgomeryshire# Quarter Sessions with another man, and the police suggested that the Judge should take that charge in'o consideration when sentencing the accused. Supt.. Griffith gave the accused a good character, saying that he had got into bad company, and ho was only fifteen when he committed the offence. The Judge, after stating that the accused had evidently been led away by an older man, sentenced him to one month's imprisonment. BURGLARY AT BODYEAN. Robert John Griffith (19), labourer, pleaded j guiity to a charge of burglary at B .dvean, and stealing cigarettes an<d tob'-H-co, and also wi'-h a similar offonce at Nevin. Mr Austin Jones, who appeared for the accused, said that at the time h3 committed tlhe offence he was cleJti(u t. and practically starving, otherwise he would not have oom- mitted the burglary. His mind was evidently not .j sound, for he had a curious tendency to commit burglaries and ho seemed to regard theso offancog as being of a much ni I-aer character than they really were, and those who kn<w him were of opinion iihat he would, commit burglaries to the end of his days be- cause his weakness was in that direction. Though he pi-adied guiity, he did not seem to think there was anything wrong in 'the offoncea he committed. Supt. Jones, Pwllheli, described the accused an a mn of bad character. He was brought before Judge Sit,ton at tho Assizes, and he received a lecture which should have done him some good. After leaving prison a situation, was found for him 4 the Harbour Works, Pwllheli, bat he suddenly left, and he was next accused, of robbery at Merioneth. The Judge remarked that Counsel had stated that the accused was not quite intelligent, but he appeared to understand things as well as most of them. "I must try to convince you that you have pleaded guilty -to a PTICLLS offence, and if you come again you will be sent to penal servitude for many years," said the Judge. "You wiU be ienv, to pri-on for eighteen months," REMARKABLE TALE OF FALSE PRETENV Efc>. THE CAREER OF A "DOCTOR OF SCIENCE." Alexander George Hamuli, (SOil de- scribed in the calendar as a ''d<-ctor of science" was indicted for obtaining by false pretences from Mr Edward Owen, George ±io £ <?l, Holyhead, the sum of £ 8, and also with obtaining ij-5 from Mr Samuel Thomas, Holyhead, by latse pretences. The accused who w "pt copiously during the whole 16me he was in tihe box; pleaded guilty. M,r T. K. Parry (insitruct^d by Mr T. R. 'Evans, Holyhead), prosecuting, explained Uhat the accused arrived at the George Hotel wtiithoujsi any luggage^ but he explained that his motor wt together with tho luggage would arrive on the following day. Ho further ex- plained that he was a doc Dr, but did not practise in England be«wiise his certificate would not peniut him, hut he p refuted: a card giving an address in Paris. The landlord r-ally believed that ho was a dootor, and he avowed him to stay from September 5 to the ,9th. He af-terwardu informed the landlord that. his chauffeur had b-?en arrested in Dublin and that the Dublin police had asked him to release him. He then tried to borrow J310 "to bring the motor car over," and for him to go oyer to Dublin for it. The landlord lent him L8, and when the accused returned from Dublin he alleged that he had Sii-missed his chaaiffeur, and also that his uncle was going to open an account in Holyhead, but no had been opened, and the police found that his name was really not HamUton th lte wais not a doctor of science, and that he did not own a motor car. With regard to the second charge he went to Mi Ihomas, and said that Mr Owen had lent him some ¡ money, but It was not sufficient for his purpose, and he borrowed £ 5 fiom Mr Thomas Mr TW,c h°"JYeT> /id not send him to Mr Thomas He understood that there were ()tller charges pending against the accused c«4rire, ^Me,Ther<, Me cb"«6s Superintendent Protheroe fHolvhead'- gave Sid S Wltal of the prisoner's lifø. He: that in 10^ A ™ e and found to r i ?rJvSon€r ^Pa^nted hunsetf to be a Coimt, and he married a lady in Ger- Sy' In the^ same year he was sentenced to 'e imprisonment at Hamburgh for iarceny In Novemlbea:, 1907, he came to Lon. ™ ^^t's^quare until Feb. he ow«* ^22- Later he was charged with obtaining £ 25 by false pretences. In connection wrth this charge he went. to aD agency and obtained employment as an en- gineer at a salary of £ 600 per annum, but sub- sequently it was found that the characters he gave were forgeri. He obtained £ 25 on the s^engt-h off that employment, and for that offence ne received a sentence of three months, j w€,nt to reside in another part of Lon- don, where he borrowed the sum of £ 13 from a fallow lodgeT, and also obtained' food and lodg- ings by fake pretences. Hothead was the next place he visiterf, and after staying there a day he proceeded to Liverpool. This was a? the beginning of June, and whilst he was at Liverpool he staved with a Mies M. Jackson froan whom he obtained £40 by false pretencoo as well as a gold watch, and warrant had been issued against him for that offence. Then he hired a motor car for three days, and obtained credit to the extent c- f £14. Afterwards he I hired another motor Car. again obtaining credit this time to the extent of £10. He called upon a Liverpool tailor, a Mr Bucldand, from whom he ordered seven suits of clothes and directed that they were to be sent to his ad- dress, No. 41, Toxteth-road. Five oi the suits were eent, and after thalt he left with the suits in his possession, and arrived at Holyhead, orossing over to Dublin, where he met a Air Warren, from whom he endeavoured to obtain £30 by false pretences. (Subsequently he ob- tained credit to the amount of L3 13s, and borrowed £ 2 12s ".to release his motor car at North Wall," and he also borrowed' a ba.g from his landlady to carry his books in connection with the British Association, of which he waa a member. He had made a variety of state- ments. The Judge Yes. I have read his statements. The Acoused, (eobbinig) I plead guilty. The Judge You seem to have adopted crime as a profession, and you make credulous people Your victims. I want to treat you leniently, but you are the sort of person whom it is my duty to repress. When I read your statement I wondered why you did not go back to Ger- maony, seeing you describe youoieeiif as a capa- ble engineer, but the statement made by the superintendent explains why you won't go back. It was in Germany you commenced your career of crime, and now you practice it in this unhappy ooiintry, where we cannot sub- mit to it. You must be imprisoned to twetlve months hard labour. I will also make an order for youx deportation at 'the end of your sentenoe. ALLEGED ASSAULT NEAR PORTMADOC. John Roberts (22), a carpenter, pleaded not guilty to a tfcarge of assaulting a girl named Margaret Ellen Jotus (8), near port, madoo. J$e was also changed with "going ajhffin* aj-med with, a dangerous weafon^ to witt
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iq uuf lmmkggewm I "HUMORS OF HISTORY." A LITTLE BILL, A.D. 1423. On the death of Henry V. in 1422 his son Henry VI. came to tho throne at the age of nine months. The country was governed by a Regency, with Duke Humphrey of Gloucester as Protector." A war with France now commenced, and as the Scotch were assisting the French with money and men, it was considered polite to release James I., King of Scotland, who 19 years previously had been captured and 0 subsequently imprisoned in Pevensey Castle. Freedom was offered to him on payment of 140,000 for 19 years board and lodging, and also his signature to an agreement forbidding his subjects from fighting for the French. This series of 100 pictures, entitled Humors of History," appearing weekly in this journal, is reproduced in colour on plato paper, cloth bound, gilt, at 2/6 nett, £2.000 having been spent in its production by tlia Morning Leader," London. Specimen Colored Plate on application. BIL BYCHAN, A.D. 1423. Ar farwolaeth Harri V. yn 1422, daeth ei fab Harri VI. i'r orsedd, ac efe ond naw mis oed. Llywodraethid y wlad gan Raglaw, gyda'r Due Humphrey o Gloucester fel Amddiffynydd." Yr adeg hon dechreuodd rhyfel gyda Ffrainc, a chan fod yr Ysgotiaid yn cynorthwyo y Ffrancod gydag arian a milwyr, ystyriwyd yn ddoeth rhyddhau lago I., Brenhin Ysgotland, yr hwn 19 mlynedd yn flaenorol a gymerasid yn gaeth ac a garcbsrwyd yn Nghastell Pevensey. Cynygiwyd ei ryddid iddo ar daliad o 4o,oeop. am ei fwyd a'i letty am 19 mlynedd, yn nghyda'r amod iddo arwyddo cytundeb yn gwarafun i'w ddeiliaid ymladd dros y Ffrancod.
MR J. HERBERT LEWIS, M.P.…
MR J. HERBERT LEWIS, M.P. AND DISESTABLISHMENT. PUBLIC MEETING AT PRESTATYN. A meeting convened by the Prestatyn Free Church Council was held in the Prestatyn Town Hall, on Friday, to press forward the Welsh dlaim for Disestablishment. Dr Townsend pre- sided', and was supported by Mr Herbert Lewis, M.P., Mns Herbert Lewis, Mr Fred Home, and most of the leading Liberal leaders and Nonconformist ministers. The Chairman said that during the last few months, one of the two meetings in the district had lbeen addmssed by agents of the Church Deifenoe AftocLation. and he felt it was time the other side of tie case was put before a Prestatyn audience. He was glad that they had secured two suich able advocates as Mr Herbert Lewis and Mr Fred Home to address them (applause). One thing was beyond all controvery, namely, thalt Wales demanded Dis- establishment (cheers). On "asking for Dis- establishment, they bore no animosity against the Church, but they wanted to see the Church put in proper relation to the State (hear, hear). Wales as a nation was practically unanimous in asking for Disestablishment, and all its 34 members were pledged to support Disestablish- ment. The nation could not speak more ex- plicitly. A welcome fact was that a branch off the Liberation League was to be opened' shortly to assist them in the fight for Dis- establishment (applauoo). Disestablishment was demanded a-e, a simple matter of justice. Parliament had no right to control the Ohurch. J Parliament was composed of religious men, as j well as some irreligious men. There- had never been so many Christian men returned to Par- liament as to the preisent Parliament, but if all the men in the House of Commons were Christian men, it would not be Parliament's function to govern the Church. In Wales there were half a million communicants attached to the Free Churches, but only 130,000 com- municants attended the Established Ohurch, and yet the latter Church absorbed a quarter od a mill Ion of national money. Taking St. Asaph alone, the )IHshofp received £ 4200 a year, the Dean JS700, four canons £ 350 each, and three archdeaconis at £ 200 each. This large sum of money might under Disestablish- ment be spent in a more naturaI and proper ■direction. Disestablishment would work for the cocial and moral progress of the country. The State was supposed to govern the Church andi its dootrinfls, and its principal ministers were appointed by the State,, but it did not govern properly, for there were large num- bers of clorFT in- absolute rebellion against that authority. The clergy were to-day teaching idolatrous doctrines.. e was glad that they ha-d there a leading representative of the G-a- vernment, who had promised that a bill should be introduced in the House of Gammons next session (applause). Dealing with the bishops in the House of Lordis, Dr Townsend protested against the little interest they took in social reform. When Mr Balfour's Education Bill was betfore the Lords the bishops attend-ed in Ifwll foroe for several days, but im.mediately after the committee stage of that bill there came on a street gambling b-ill-,a measure of extreme importance for the masses, which was lost, owing to the albsenee of most of the bishops. He thought that under Din- establishment, while he supposed the Ohurdh buildings would ibe retained by the Church, the Cathedrals would become national property, to be kept in order and preserved as national monuments, but he would like to see them used1 by friends m the Church. The parsonage houses could be bought back again, say for the price of the ground" which he con- sidered would be a handsome oa If the Church became disestablished, it would rise in spiritual strength, and would r.-a !y labour in tho cau&e of the people. It would also claim that respect and sympathy w llch at present it did not. He moved the folbwll: resolution —"That this meeting reaffirms the settled con- victions of the Welsh people thn/o the connec- tion between the Church and Stare :6 both un- scriptural and unjust; and! its unslitkcn de- termination to persevere in the fight for com- plete religious equality and accept with satis- faction the assurance of the Prime Minister that it is the intention of the Gover.v.njnt to introduce and .push forward a bill for the Dis- establishment and Disendowment of the Church of England in Wales; and urges the Govern- ment to gpare no effort to carry it into law during the next session of Parliament." The Rev Mostyn Jones seconded, and spoke a few words in Welsh. Milt HERBERT LEWIS ON THE POSITION. Mr Herbert Lewis, who was accorded a popular reception, said he wished he could make a speech worthy of such a reception. During the .past few years there bad not been much argument on this question, because Wales had made up her mind long ago. They could not be blind to the great irregula-rities and in-
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The vagrancy problem is becoming a Berioug matter for boards of guardians in South WaJes. At a meet- inc of the Bridgend Board it was reported that no fewer than nine hundred tramps had been relieved during the preceding fortnight, this being an increase of six hundred compared with the corresponding period of last year. The Colonial Office on Monday night issued a warn- ing to intending British emigrants that they will meet in Brazil with climate, laws, language, money, and conditions of life and work widely different from those to which they have been accustomed in this country. Wages which in England are ample ftfford but a bar-a austeaaaee in Bruil.
CARNARVONSHIRE AND ANGLESEY…
a. revolver, without lawful occasion to do so, to the terror of His Majesty's subj-ects. Mr T. E. Morris [instructed iby Messrs Geonge and George) prosecuted, and Mr AT- teimus Jones (instructed by Mr Garth Jones) de- fended. iMr Morris, in opening^ stated that the little girf was walking along the road from Port- iruadoc to Preen teg at about 7 p.m., when she met the accused on a. hill bet-ween Prenteg and Beddgelert, about 4DO yards from her parents' house, and it was alleged that he kissed her and then assaulted her. The little girl cried, and the accused gave her a penny, telling her not to cry. The little girl went straight home and told her parents what had taken, place, whereupon the father pursued on his bicycle, and found, the accused sitting on a wall. The father charged him with mo:citing his daugh- ter, whereupon the acteusecS took out his re- volver, pointed it to the father's head, and threatened to blow his brains out. The father then picked up a stone and threatened to re- turn the conrpfungnt. The accused then cleared off. When the little girl slapped into the box to give evidence, she asked for an interpreter, whereupon the Judge remarked Don't they teach children English in this port of the would?" Mr T. E. Morris; She prefers Welsh, per- haps. The Judge (to witness-) Are you not taught English as well as WelSh in the echool-,s Witness's Mother: No, only Welsh. Mr Morris That is in th^ Infants' Depart- ment. The Witness was allowed to take the oath, and she corioborat-ed counsel's statement. Inspector Roberts (Festiniog), who arrested the accused, said that he found ujpon him a six-chambered loaded revolver, twelve cart- ridges, and a leather mask. He explained to witness that he wanted to defend himsedf, and when charged he said "I know nothing." P.O. Jones (19) (-Poitmadoc) ga.ve evidence that on the way to Carnarvon Prison the ac- cused said "lii I had known this I would have blown my brains out." The accused, who said that he lived with his mother at Odborn-e-terrace, Penrhyndeudraeth, stated in evidence that he was out of work, and hadi inteded going to Sou.th Africa-, and with that object he bought a revolver, having o learnt from books that revolvers were neces- sary for one's sa/fety out there. lIe absolutely denied having eeen the girl whom he was al- leged to have assaulted. The father threaten- ed to 6triko him with a stone, whereupon he pulled the revolver out of his pocket. He loaded the revolver after the father letft him. His brother had asked him to make a leather mask for hian- and that was the one which the police found in hitupocket. Mr T. E. Morris asked the recused to put the mask on, and when counsel pointed out that it did. not fit him, accused said1: "My head has grown since I have been in prison." Cross-examined, accused said he did not know that the whole countryside were scouring for him. On behalf of the accused, Mr Artemus Jones laid stress on the absence of corroboration, and it was not right to send1 him to duranoe vile on the evidence of a little girl like that. The Judge, summing up, said he could not gee why the accused wan'ted" a leather mask. The Jury found the accused guilty on the charge of assault, and Mr Morris in timated that the other charge would not be proceeded with. Mr Artemus Jones stated that he had re- ceived a letter from Mr Osmond Williams, M.P., who said that he know the parents of the accused, who were very respectable, and he suggested that an inquiry might be made into the menital oondition of the accused1. Sn,pt. Jones: ? I know nothing aibout his mental oondition but I understand that he has ibeen under the supervision of the prison medical officer, who states that he is as brisrht as any man who has been in prison. Mr Artemus Jones described the conduct of tihe accused as silly bravado. The Judge remarked that the accused might ihave in-tended to go to South Africa, but h evidently intended to do something before he went. Anyane; in Oourt could not help being convinced 'that his evidence was simply a tissue qf the most foolish lies imaginable. His conduct had b°en ino-s. wicked and no one would credit his story. He would have to learn that the law did not allow him to rcommitifuoe acts and that it was strong en- ough to repress persons of his characLcr. The sentence would be fifteen months. Accused: I'm innocent; I'll not do it. The Judge What does he say. Mr Morris: He wants to appeal. The Judge: He can appeal but I don't give him leave to d4 so.
MR J. HERBERT LEWIS, M.P.…
iuxious anomalies otf the oslsting position. There were throughout the kingdom thousands of clergy and laity who folt them keenly. The existenoe of the Establishment had prevented their grievances from being remedied. To meet the difficulties Church reform ha-d been advoc.sted-that was always one of the answers to the demand for Dieesfcabiishmenit. The truth was that Ohurcih reform without Di&- estahlishment was iTrpco&ib!e. The party which was in favour of the Estaiblk'hment had' been in pow-or fow 16 yearns, and with the ex- ception oi email bilk of very little importance no substantial step ha<l been taken in the direc- tion ok OliuTtch reform. There was a lartge body of loyal Church men who thought it high time that those anomalies should come to an end, and that the only effective way of bringing them to an end was by Disastaib'ijshment. They ueed to be told that Nonconrformity was only a. paaeing phase in W^lsh life, and thaat "the bees would return to the hives." The sarnie prophecy had beem. made at various times during the pa&t 100 yeaxs, and yet it was as far ifrom fulfilment as ever. The position of Nonconformity in Wales was absolutely un- aesauajole. Here and there a stray Ibe-e might fly from one hive to another, but the new hives, filled with busy workers, remained (applause). Let them put their theories to the moet prac- tical of all testa-that of experience. Would anyone wish to see the Irish Church re-estaib- li.Ii,eKi ? Disestablishment was tho greatest blessing that hadi ever befallen the Church in 'Ireland. Oolonel Samideraon. one otf the most devoted and loyal eons of that Church, the leader of the Irish Unionist Party, had publicly recanted the votes he gave and the speeches he made against the Disestablishment of the Irish Ohuxch. I'f it were possifbJe to re-estab- lish the Church in Ireland wao there any Irish- man—Roenan Catholic, Breribryterian, or Epis- oopalian-who would wish to see it re-estaib- lishod ? Hie believed there was not one. At a meeting of the Ohúrch (Congress on the pre- vious day a distinguished' Scottish prelate (the Bishop of Aberdeen), 0If whom they in Flint- shire were all proudi—a native of Caerwys, and a iran for whom he (the speaker) had the deep- est personal respeot—had admitted that the Irish Churoh had gained vastly in spiritual power since its Diaeatalblishanent. But he stated that it had not brought the peace to Ireland that was expected. Ncfbody pretended that Disestablishment had settled the land ques- tion in Iredand, nor wovtldi it settle that or any questions of a similar nature in Wales. But what it had done in Ireland, it would do in Wales. It would remove a bitter grievance and injustice, and it would make co-operation far easier between memibens of different de- nominations, and, as in Irelandt it would vastly increase, the spiritual strength or the Ohurch. CO'XlFEDE.X'aK IN THE CmOHSiSIOlN REPORT. Reference had been made at the Church Con- gress to the evidence given, and, the statistics presented to the Royal Commission on the iVVelsh Church,. He looked forward with the greatp-st confidence to the publication of that evidence as a whole. The Commission was not appointed to make any pronouncement against Disestablishment—that lay entirely out-side the terms of ref.erence-but to elicit facts as to the work done by all churches in Wales. When the question was beifore IVrlia- ment previously in the form of a ill there was no authoritative standard that English, members of Parliament who were opposed to Disestablishment would' accept as to the rela- tive positions of the various churches in Wales. The evidence given before the Royal Commis- sion would show dearly the extent and naf uxe of the progress made by the Free Churches. The question was ask-e-d at the Church Congress whether there really was a majority for Dis- establishment in .Wales. Nevertheless, they had only one method oU deciding a question of that kind, namely, by the Parliamentary re- presentation of the country. Every member returned for a Welsh constituency at the last elec-tion war, pledged to Disestablishment in Wales, and the verdict of Wales given at the last general election had been confirmed with the utmost emphasis at the bye-election that had recently taken place in Pembrokeshire, when, dteapite the fact that hundreds of Tariff Reform 8Igents were scouring the octustituency, the unbroken front was splendidly maintained (hear, hear). (What they as Free Churchmen complained of was that the wishes of Wales, whether negative or positive, had been defied and trampled on. Wales did not want the [Education Ajct of 1902. Wales hated it and expressed her "objection against the Act in the most emphatic way conceivable, and yet that Act was forced upon them by the Government of the day, and) the House of Lords supported that 'Government as a matter of course. THiE (LATE GOVERNMENT took the same course with reference to the Li- censing Act of 10C4. If a Conservative Go-vernmemt exercieed its constitutional right otf forcing those laws ffcon an unwilling country, a Liberal Government had suredy the right to grant to a willing people a measure which exiperience in Irelandl, a.nd in the Colonies had shown to be fruitful in untold spiritual bleasingis to the Church which had received its freedom from. the trammels of a State connection. There could be no doubt about the willingness of the House oif Commons to pass a Welsh Disestablishment Bilil. Indeed he believed it would pass with as large a, majority as could be found for any contentious me-asure .aptplause). But they had been told that the House of Lords would not allow it to paes; that the endorsement of its principle by Wales in repeated general elections, the fact that it was now supported' by a unanimous Par- liamentary representation, wouild be nothing to them, and it was pointed out that they had al- ready thrown out clauses relating to Wales, supported by every Welsh member, and sent up to the Lords by enormous majorities. With- out making any comment on the position, con- I stitutional or otherwise, which this created, he would like to ask a question—what good would it do to the Church or Nonconformity, or, l aJOOve all, to the cause oIf rcl;gion-the su- preme, indeed the only object, which every ecclesiastical organisation professed to serve ? The Lords were neafiy iaill members of the Established Church, but whatever their nrac- tico might be their theory was that they were acting in a judicial capacity. If they rejected' the constitutionally expressed wishes of the peo- ple of Wales they would leave a deep-seated grievance unredressed, and stand convicted once more otf partisan partiality. The pro- posals of the Government might meet the fate that had already boon predicted, but he believed there was a great opportunity for a display of true statesmanship on the part of the able men who guicted the destinies of the Church in Eng- land and' Wales. They honestly believed that when Disestablishment had become an accom- plished fact and when the Church and country had had experience of its effects, the Ohureh of England would be amazed at the want of faith they had shown in the power of voluntary effort. They believed too that those feelings of rancour and bitterness, sometimes smoulder- ing, sometimes breaking out into open flame, which always co-existed with a State establish- ment of1 religion, would cease, and it would' be recognised that some of the best friends of the Church as a spiritual body had been men, not of its own fold, who had worked' for the libera- tion of the Church 'from the State (applause). Mr Fred Horne, who met with a hearty re- ception, also spoke, said that to get Dis- establishment Wales had to persuade the pre- dominant partner ^England) to pass it, and, speaking as a cold blooded' Englishman, but as one who was always ready to fight for freedom, whatever the cause might be, there could' be no more glorious fight than that for religious equality.