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ABERGELE PETTY SESSIONS. A RECORD DAY: 24 CASES. PECULIAR MOTOR CASE DIVIDES THE BENCH. SERIOUS CHARGES AGAINST PUBLICANS DISMISSED. WELL-KNOWN GENTLEMAN FINED FOR DRUNKENNESS. There was a record list before the Abergele Bench on Saturday, no less than 24 cases being down for hearing, and the sitting lasted from 11 a.m. until 6 p.m. Mr G. R. Griffiths presided, and there with him on the Bench Dr Wolsten- holme, Dr Peter Jones, and Mr J. Hannah. TRANSFER OF LICENCE. The Bench granted a temporary transfer of the licence of the Penybont Inn, Abergele, from Mr Charles Knight to Mr W. Grey Jones, late of Prestat vn. MOTOR CASE DIVIDES THE BENCH. William Taylor, Hollinwood, Coed Pella Road, Colwyn Bay, and Woodland, Plasbury, Hereford, was charged by Inspector Tippett with recklessly driving a motor car in Abergele at 4 p.m. on July 21st.. Mr Arnphlett defended. Inspector Tippett said he was standing by the top of Sea Road, Abel-gele, on the day in ques- tion, when he saw a motor car coming at a great speed from the direction of Gwrvch Castle grounds. The car raised a cloud of dust, and the defendant, who had admitted that he was the driver, reduced the speed to about 20 miles an hour as he reached Sea Road. Even that speed was dangerous in view of the fact that there was a school close by,from which children would be leaving. In cross-examination by Mr Arnphlett, the witness said that he had measured the distance the defendant covered at the high rate of speed. lie found that it was 348 yards, and that was covered at the rate of 35a miles an hour. Mr Kvffin, veterinary surgeon, held a watch at the time. He was aware that the defendant was a major in the Shropshire Yeomanry, and that he also was a Justice of the Peace for Shropshire and Radnorshire. He was also aware that the defendant had a clean record so far as his licences showed, but there was a conviction which was not recorded, viz., for exceeding the speed limit in Bucks. He had written to the defendant, asking for particulars, but he only stated that the road was between Llanddulas and Abergele; he could not be more definite than that. Defendant did not conceal anything, but said he wa3 driving the car but whether by accident or design the defendant, held his hand to his face as he passed him. Mr Amphlett closely questioned the witness as to why he did not stop the car if he considered that the speed was dangerous, and the Inspector replied that he might have done so, but he did not consider it necessary, and he preferred the charge of reckless driving to that of exceeding the speed limit, as he considered it the more serious of the two. He was aware that had he charged the defendant with exceeding the limit that he would have either have had to stop him or given him notice within so many days that there was a charge, and thfit the place" would have had to be sx^ecified. He considered. that the defendant was an intelligent gentleman, and knew what he had done. In fact a man must be intelligent before he could drive a motor car. He had not seen defendant driving previously. He was not watching for cars that day nor had he on certain days taken the number of every car passing through Abergele. Mr Kyffin said that the car, in his opinion, was travelling at a reckless and dangerous speed over the distance to Sea Road. lie held his watch, and the Inspector watched the car. If any perso had been coming out of the houses into the road they could not have got out of the way. It was an unreasonable speed to travel, and it was found that he covered 348 yards in 20 seconds. Mr Arnphlett questioned the witness as to how he timed the speed, and he said that ho did not use a stop watch, but counted the seconds, and the Inspector took the distance, afterwards step- ping it, and then measuring with a tape. By Inspector Tippett: There was danger after the defendant's car passed Sea Road, afl the road is narrow and there is a school close by. He considered that all cars should reduce speed through Abergele, as there had been several very narrow escapes. The defendant was called to give evidence, and said that he had lived in Colwyn Bay since June 1st, and prior to that, from April, he had lived in Rhyl. He almost lived in his car, and travelled a great deal. He had been taught motor driving, and held efficiency certificates for the United Kingdom and France. It was true that he had been fined 10s in Bucks for exceeding the speed limit by one mile, but that was in a police trap over a road where there was not a person to be seen. His licence was not endorsed. He left Colwyn Bay at 3.15, being about 15 minutes late, and lie arrived at Market Drayton at about 8.30 the same day. Even when lie had the Inspector's letter he had no idea that he had transgressed, and the only particular given was on the road between Llanddulas and Abergele." He was a very careful driver, and had never had an acci- dent. He passed through Abergele two or three times each week. The outside limit of his car on a track was 38 miles per hour, but taking a run such as he had that day it would not be more than 20 miles all round. lie considered that it would be impossible to drive the car at 35 miles an hour up-hill or round a corner. He denied that he ever travelled at 35 miles an hour, and was always very careful to slow down when passing a school. Inspector Tippett: Is it not always the careful and expert drivers who get into the police courts ? Defendant: I do not know. In further cross-examination, the defendant said that he believed that the police in every place where he had stayed would give him a good character for driving carefully. He did not agree that the stretch of road by Gwrvch Castle was "one of the most beautiful pieces for high speed in the country." It was a fine straight road, but it was too" bumpy" for high speed. It was not truo that he went at a high rate of speed as he was a quarter of an hour late in starting. He did not suggest that Mr Kyffin was influenced by the Inspector at all. Mr Arnphlett said he could not call any other witness, but he would point out that the proper course for the Inspector to have taken would have been to have stopped the car, and told the defendant that he would be summoned. Nothing was known as to where the alleged offence oc- curred until they came into court. He had also to complain that Mr Kyffin had used an ordinary watch, and it was impossible to time a car with it, a second or two making a tremendous differ- ence in calculating the speed per hour over 348 yards. Was it likely that a smart officer like Inspector Tippett would permit a car going at 35i miles an hour to pass through Abergele without attempting to stop it? In fact, had there been an accident he would have been guilty of culpable negligence for not stopping it. He asked the Bench not to convict the defendant, and endorse his licence, on such evidence. The Bench retired, and after a lengthy consul, tation in private, the Chairman said the magis- trates were divided, and so the case would be adjourned. Mr Arnphlett urged that the Bench could dis- miss the case, but the Clerk said the decision was to adjourn it. DRUNK ON THE ROADWAY. Robert Thoma-s, of Tyddyn y Vron, Bettws, pleaded guilty to being drunk at Llanfair on August 7th. P.C. Evan Williams said he found the defen- dant lying on the roadway helplessly drunk, and had to send him home. Fined 5s and costs. SHOULD NOT BE SERVED. Edward Hughes, Peel-street, Abergele, also pleaded guilty to being drunk in Market-street on August 10th. Inspector Tippett said the man was very drunk, and was singing and reciting in his own way Residents took very little notice of defen- dant's peculiar ways, but he attracted the atten- tion of visitors, and was a perfect nuisance. It was not right for publicans to serve him, as he had been blaek-listed once. Mr Hannah suggested that publicans did not serve defendant, but that other people bought drink and gave it to him. Inspector' Tippett said he had different informa- tion to that. Fined 103 and 5s 6d cost;, A PECULIAR CASE FROM St-. GEORGE. There were on the list three cases arising out of a visit by the police to St. George, and several hours were occupied in dealing with them. William Wynne, Gofer Farm, Abergele, was summoned for being drunk at the Kinmel Arms Inn, St. George, on August 10th; David Wil- liams, licensee of the Kinmel Arms, was sum- moned for permitting drunkenness, and also for keeping his house open after hours. Mr Arnphlett, for the defendants aslced that the three etises should be taken togc?ther, but to "'L;s -ivj-Lr ?iose,!eY, for thq Y)olice, objected, and the cares were beard ?.-?.,)a?ately, although much of the evidence was the same in the case against William Wynne as in the other cases. In laying the facts before the court, Mr Mose- ley said that P.C. W. H. Williams and P.C. Davies were on point duty at St. George at about 10 p.m. on August 10th. After standing outeide the Kinmel Arms Inn for a few minutes P.C. Davies entered the house. Shortly afterwards William Wynne came out with two other men. He was very drunk, and had to lean against the porch, after falling down on a seat, being unable to get through the door, He staggered away in a different direction to where he worked, and was soon afterwards found by the officers leaning against a wltll. He was spoken to, and then went towards Gofer Farm. The officers followed him for a mile, and during that time he had to creep by the side of a wall. At length he fell down, and the policemen took hold of him and led him home, another mile away. It stood to reason, said Mr Moseley, that a man was not sober who required the assistance of two police- men to take him two miles. P.C. Williams gave evidence bearing out the solicitor's statement and added that when the defendant got to the farm a man who slept in the same room said that he would not let him come in that night as he was always coming home drunk. Mr Arnphlett strongly objected to this evi- dence, saying that the other man was not in court to be cross-examined. In cross-examination, the witness said that he did not hear the Kinmel Hall clock strike 10, although he had heard it previously in St. George. It was in consequence of hearing voices in the Kinmel Arms that P.C. Davies went in- side to warn the licensee that it was past closing time. lie was sure that it was the defendant who fell in the porch on the seat, as he knew him by his hat. Mr Amphlett: Then it is a case of "Where did you get that hat?" (laughter). The witness further said tha.t the defendant did not sit down in the porch, but fell down. The other men passed the defendant, walking arm in arm, but they did not speak to, nor take any notice of, Wynne. Dr Wolstenholme: They passed him like the Levito (laughter). In further cross-examination, the witness said that the licensee of the Kinmel Arms came out and was spoken to by P.C. Davies, who on call- ing his attention to the condition of Wynne said that he was too drunk to stand. Mr Williams replied: "It is only wind," but P.C. Davies re- torter: "It is some of your strong ale" (laughter). P.C. Davies corroborated, and said that when he served defendant with a summons the man asked, Why did you not leave me alone, and I would have gone home." Witness replied: "Why did you fall down?" to which defendant answered: "It got into my head" (laughter). The licensee of the Kinmel Arms on being told that the defendant was drunk said: "It is only wind," but witness replied that it wa.3 good ale. On the Friday following the alleged offence Mr Williams asked him what he was going to do about the case, and on being told that the defen- dant was helplessly drunk, he said that he would give anything to square it, as the defendant was only in the house half-an-hour. He was sure that the landlord served beer after 10 p.m., as when he entered the house at 10.8 he was serving a man with a bottle of beer. The landlord did clear the house when spoken to. In cross-examination by Mr Amphlett the wit- ness said he had not summoned the man for re- ceiving the beer. Defendant had a staggering gait, but he had often seen him drunk, although he was very quiet. Defendant told him that he had Is when he went to the Kinmel Arms at 4.30, that he had paid for two pints of beer and two whiskies, but another man gave him more. For the defence, David Williams, landlord of the Kinmel Arms, was called, and said lie had conducted the house for five years without a complaint. Defendant first went into the house between 5 and 6 o'clock, and he soon left, re- turning between 8 and 9. Defendant had three glasses of beer in all, and was perfectly sober. At 10 o'clock witness called "Time," and the men left, but he was not warned by the police. In cross-examination, the witness said that he did not tell P.C. Davies that it was "the wind" that was the matter with defendant. The police could not have taken the defendant two miles home, as the distance was under 1 miles. He denied tolling- P.C. Davies that he would like to square" it. William Bolster, labourer, said he left with de- fendant after talking with him, and was sure he was sober. He was behind defendant as he went out, and he swore that neither of them fell. Mr Amphlett: He is bad on his feet. Witness: Yes, he is drunk when he is sober (loud laughter). Mr Amphlett: What made you go out at 10 o'clock?—Because it was shutting-up time (laughter). I asked Mr Williams for a pint of beer as I was leaving and he refused to serve me as it was 10 o'clock. Mr Moseley: How many pints of beer did you have?—I don't think that is a fair question to put to me (laughter). Well, how many did the defendant have?- None, he had glasses—three. Wrilliam Davies, gamekeeper, corroborated, and said the Kinmel clock struck. 10 after they left. He was sure of that, as he turned to his com- panion and said that they were getting very strict, as it was only then ten o'clock. John Evans, labourer, said he met the defen- dant at 10.10 walking along the road perfectly sober. Thomas Hughes, John Hughes, and Michael -Branson were also called and swore defendant was sober, and that some of them spoke wiih him for three quarters of an hour before lie left. He did not fall going out. The Bench said they considered it a proper case to bring forward, but on the evidence they could not convict the defendant and the case would be dismissed. CHARGE AGAINST A PUBLICAN. David Williams, licensee of the Kinmel Arms, St. George, was tlipii oharetod with permitting drunkenness, and t'ho evidence' in the previous rc, -N Mos(, -ed for oas(3 NN 1)<,ated. i -Ic-y al)l)czt., t<he prosecution, and Mr Amuhlett. for the de- fence. The Chair ma.n said the Bench had given the case their serious oonfidora-t.on, and felt that the police were oerfectlv iuttific-d in bringing it forward, but they were not saiisfictl that Wynne was dru.uk, and so the case would be dismissed. With regard to the charge against David Wil '.iams for keeping htis houee open after time, the evidenoc was that the house was found to bo be own at, 10-8 u.m.. but the defendant contend- ed that the Kinmel Hall clock struck ten after the Dolice entered. The Chairin:i.Ti said the BencTi thought there was the r>ot«ibiIitv oif the clocks being different, and, speaking from hi.9 own experience, he could siav that (hat was so with the clocks in Abergele, a.nd the Bench would rive t.he defendant the benefit of the donht. The decision was receinvd with applause in court, which was at once tiUIJprcffied, the Chair- man observing' that h was sorry to see such behaviour in a court, of instice. If that sort of thing- occurred aerain the court would have to be cleai ad WANTON DAMAGE BY BOYS. Robert Hughes, Bryn-v-Grces, Bcit-ws; Thee. Roberts. Tv Crocs, Bcttws; Daniel Porry, Glanvwern. Beitws: and Evan Jones. Pcny- Hordd. Deer. Betlws. werei eaeth charged with doing- wilfuii dimae'c to the windows of cottages be-lone-inc to Mr :r. E. O'-dfkJd. J.P. Mr A. E. Oldfield ;]1,ca.r0d for the prosecu- tion. and «lc,)¡ of the defendants were fined 6sl, and ordered to nay 3e each to replace the broken glass. FURIOUS BICYCLE RIDING. Cecil Blake,, a lad who had been staying with his pa.rents on a visit to A Iter ere le, but who re- sides in Sheffield, was fini 26 6d and C((;t, for furiously riding' a bicycle through AfcergeJe Oin the 5th cf August. Mr T. H. Morgan appeared for the -defend,f i DRUNKENNESS. For being drunk and disorderly at Abergele, Ed-ward of Jcnkin-street, was fined 2s 6d and cos>l<? Robert Griffith, Tabulia,rn Farm, Llanfair, was summoned for bcir.cr drunk while in charge cf a horse a.nd e-wrt. The defendant, for whom M-r Joseph Lloyd appeared, was fined 5" and costs. For bentr drunk. Wni. Noedham, Ghapel- Bit roe.c,t was fined 5t- and oo&ts. Buckley Wynne Yorke, Bryn Aled, Lla.nsan- nan. was ohairtred with beintr drunk and disor- derly in Abertrele oai the occasion of the August fair. Mr Amuhlett defended. Durincr the heavinnr of this case tihe defend- ant :interix>isie>d. and said that a man had in- sulted him. and all he did was to ask the police —for whc.m he- had to nay-to help him, with the result tliat lie was summoned for being1 drunk. Insrxotov Tinnett said that, the defendant came to him while he was on duty in the street, and wanted him to come to eomebne who, he I said, had been roachrosr on hia estate. De fendant. was in drink at the time, and hus con- duct was such ihat. witness resented it. De- fendant kept shouting, "Won't you come in?'' and when witness refused he caught him by the oca.t several times until lie had to fling him ac rot-s the road Mr AmoMett. for the defence, denied the charfrc, and said that the defendant wa.nted the assistance of the officer to a man who he aJ- leged had been taking rabbits. VV. E. Jones, ironmoin«er, Abergele, was oalled., And said that defendant was sober, while Herbert Rookes. a coachman, elated tha-t de- fendant rodo a bicvole behind his ooach that day home- The Be,noh imnofrd a. fine of £1 and emte. NO LIGHT .ON A BICYCLE. For ridine- a. bicvole without a light, WaJter Bertlltn. Gwrvch Castle, WM fined 2a 6d aod ooeta. ANIMALS STRAYING. Eliaft Davies, Mynvdd, Bettws, was fined 2s 6d and costs for allowing three pigs to stray. For permitting her dog- to be out after dark Marv Williams, Brv,n Hvfrvd, Abergele, was fi llc ft 2 _s W CHARGE AGAINST A LICENSEE DIE- MISSED. Woi. Featherstone, Bee Hotel, Abergele, was cihartred with liaviiiv served a drunken person, and with uerniittmsr drunkenness on the 17th cf August. Mr Moselev orc&ecuied, and M-r Airnphlett dofendcl. Inspector Tippett said he went to the Bee Hotel on the day in question, and there found a man leaning against the counter, and he called the barmaid's attention to the man, and also questioned her as to why she served Rim. The man cave his address a.s Thomas Smith, labourer., of no fixed abode. Witness alleged tihat the man was drunk. Mr Amphlett ra.ised the question as to why the inspector did not arrest 'the man under the circumstances, but he reulied that he had no power to do so, and so let him go. For the defence, E.sie Leighton, barmaid, said that Mr Featiherstbnc was away that day, and she wa*» in chartre of the hotel. She did s2-rye the ma.n wifih beer, but she did so as he apueared to be quite sober, and his conversa- tion was sensible. He was not drunk, and he said he was coinf to have something to eat with his beer. He did ea.t fcod with it, and s'ie fa,'Icd to detect wrong w*t,h hi I'M' Lucy Featherstone, aged 12 years, said she was with Mi-s Leitrhton that day, and did .not think the man wtas drunk. Defendant said that he had hed a licence for 30 vears, and that was the first charge which had been brousrht against him. The Bench dismissed the case, upon the ground that there was an element of doubt in it.
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ST. ASAPII (Flint) RURAL DISTRICT COUNCIL. THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOARD'S REPORT CRITICISED. STRONG REMARKS BY COUNCILLORS. THE CHAIRMAN COULD WRITE AS GOOD HIMSELF. This Council held their monthly meeting on Friday at St. Asaph, Mr Ed. William, J.P., Dyserth, being in the chair. GAME DEALER'S LICENCE. An application by Messrs Roberts and Sons, High-street, St. Asaph, for a renewal of their gamedealer's licence was granted. HARD ON THE WASHERWOMAN. At a previous meeting complaints had been made as to the discharge of water from a washer- woman's cottage at Dyserth, on to the high road, and notice to abate the nuisance had been served, wjth the result that the landlord now wrote to say that notice would be given to the tenant to leave, and that failing thei securing of a tenant who did not do washing the premises would be closed. It was observed that it would be very hard to take her living from the woman, and Mr W. S. Roberts said he hoped that something would be done to prevent that. The Chairman said he did not think she would have to leave as she would find means of dis- posing of the water. She could pour it out over her garden as other people did, but the nuisance could not continue as at present. If they had a sewerage system for Dvserth the water could be dealt with. It was decided to leave matters in the hands of the officials. RHUDDLAN LOWER SCHOOL. A committee reported having inspected these schools, and they suggested that ventilating shafts be erected in Gwyndy and Church-streets. Mr Morris said that the Vicar had told him that the work would have been carried out some time ago but for the want of funds. The committee's recommendations were ap- proved. ST. ASAPH DRAINS. It was reported that Mr Chas. Mansbridge, St. Asaph, had complained that certain premises had not been connected with the main drains at St. Asaph as promised, but the Surveyor said the work had now been done. The Clerk said that Mr Mansbridge told him at ten o'clock that day that it had not been done. Mr Lothian said that was not so. His men had done the work. The matter then dropped. FOOTPATHS TO THE SHORE NEAR PRESTATYN. Mr John Davies, Penyffrith, Dyserth, wrote to the Council alleging that certain footpaths to the shore between Rhyl and Prestatyn were being obstructed by Mr Brookes, and that he had re- ceived a letter from Mr Gamlin, acting on be- half of Mr Brooices, asking if he (Mr Davies) or his visitors continued to pass through the corn and other lieldj. He (Mr Davies) con- tended that there had been footpaths through the fields for generations, and he asked the Council to protect the public rights. Mr Geo. Williams said he knew that each of the houses on the Towyn had footpaths to the shore, and that for many years they* had been so used. He could remember them as long as he had lived (laughter). As regards Mr cfamlin's letter it seemed strange that while he was acting for the Council in the footpath dispute between Rhyl and Prestatyn he should also act for another party in a footpath which crossed, the main path. It seemed to him, what with the medical officer of health siding with the Local Government Board and this letter now, that the best thing for the Councillors to do was to strike and let the officials do all the business (laughter). Mr Morris said no doubt farmers had the risrht to sow footpaths with corn, but it did not pre- vent the public, if they had a right of wav, going through the growing crops. The Clerk said he could not advise the Coun- cil without having further information before him. He did not know whether the path was claimed as aright of way from a house or as a 1)ublic fooi,)7,tli. I', cert.,tin teiiant-s' had tl, ght t? ?ll up f,)(iti)a tlis. It was decided to refer t.he matter to a com- mittee, Mr Llew. B. Evans remarking that the question of rights of way was becoming a very serious matter. FFORDDLAS-ROAD, RHYL. At the previous meeting the Council had, on the motion of Mr LJcw, B. Evans, nassed a re- solution calling the attention of the Rhyl Council to the fact that a road between the parish of Rhuddlan and Rhyl had been stopped for vehicular traffic, the bridge being narrowed so that it could only be used by foot passengers, which it was contended was interfering with public rights. Mr Conwv Bel! said he did not) consider that this Council had anything to do with it, as tho place was within the Rhvl urban district. The matter had not been put on the agenda, and he was not present at the last meeting. It was a dispute between the Bodrhyddan Estate and one of the members, and he thought that the Council had better have nothing to do with it. Mr Lie". B. Evans persisted that it was a matter for d'L'3CUSS' W,V Bell c)slal':d it a i,c-r,.on,.] -natter' Mr Con I between Mr Evans and tha Bodrhvddan Estate, and it was going to cost somebody something, as an action in the High Court would be com- menced for trespass, and he did not want to see the Council drawn into litigation in a matter with which they had nothing to do. Mr Evans replied that it was a verv important road leading to a large district, and he was the only councillor from that end of the parish who could take the matter up. Some of the Bod- rhydda.n Estate tenants were complaining, and the Council had passed a resolution on the matter. Mr Conwy Bell said the Bodrhvddan Estate could look after its own tenants. The matter then dropped. SANITATION IN THE BOARD'S DISTRICT. THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOARD'S REPORT. The Council then considered a letter from the Local Government Board enclosing a copy of the 'nc rc,.port of the Board's 'pector (Dr. Fletcher) on the sanitary administration of the district, and asking to be informed of the steps proposed to be taken to carry into effect the recommendations contained therein. This report, which has created a considerable stir in the district, has already been published in extenso. It will be recollected that Dr. Fletcher upholds the position taken up by Dr. Lloyd Roberts, the medical officer of health for the district. The Chairmaii said that as regarded Dyserth, they desired that the matter be gone into fully to see what could be done. He would give notice of motion that the Council consider the question of draining Dyserth as soon as possible. With reference to Towyn and Meliden, the Clerk called attention to that part of the report where it was said that a sewage scheme for Meliden and Towyn would cost £ 10,000, and said that as the rateable value of the district was only L3200 it would appear that a scheme is out of the question. The Clerk added that he had been told it was not possible to deal with the sewage from Towyn by way of Prestatyn, because there was not sufficient fall. The Chairman elicited the statement that a builder had told the inspector that the cost of a sewage scheme for Meliden would be ten thousand pound-, and remarked thab it was not a matter for a builder so much as an engineer. He would like to know how that fig-ure had been arrived at. He objected to such vague state- ments being put in a report of that important character, and considered that only matters of which the inspector was quite sure should have been inserted. The Clerk then read the recommendation that the Council should increase the medical officer's safai-v and that an isolation hos-,):?tal be prc,- idea.' v Mr Conwy Ball said he had referred to previous reports made by the Local Government- Board inspectors, and it appeared to him that Dr. Fletcher had had these reports before him and those of the local medical officer of health and had founded his own report upon them. There was a certain amount of freemasonry amongst the medical profession, and naturally they would not give each other away. Personally he expected the report would have been blacker than it was owing to the strong attitude he had taken to- wards the doctor. The report was not so bad considering that the medical officer had gone be- hind their backs in writing letters to the Local Government Board. The suggestion that Bod- fari might be able to get water from the Bir- kenhead supply showed that that had been taken from another report, for it was known by those in the district that the Birkenhead supply would o nowhere near Bodfari. As regards the salary of Dr. Lloyd Roberts the latter did not chose to live in St. Asaph, and that was his own look out. He (Mr Bell) endorsed what the chairman of the St. Asaph (Denbigh) Council had said on this matter. Moreover he did not think that the Council had been given due credit for all they had done. At Rhuddlan, for instance, they had spent hundreds of pounds on improvements; indeed thousands of pounds had been spent there in the last ten years. Credit should have been given for this in the report instead of blackballing, blackmailing, and hold- ing them up all the time. They should try and pull together, and it would be better if a little encouragement were given to them. Thcv could work very well together. The Chairman said they knew what must be done at Dyserth. Mr Edwin Morgan said there were many things in the report which he did nob understand, and he strongly objected to sarcastic remarks. The Chairman said the inspector only spent three weeks in the whole district, and but ten minutes at Dyserth. The Clerk replied that he was with the in- spector for two days. Some of the farms they went to were very well kept in his opinion. It was not true to say that they only spent ten minutes at Dyserth. A great deal more time than that had been spent there. Mr Conwy Bell said that St. Asaph appeare to be the dirtiest place (laughter). The Chairman asked why the doctor had spent three weeks' holiday at St. Asaph if he thought that was the case (laughter). Mr Lothian said there was nothing wrong with the sanitation at St. Asaph, nor with Rhuddlan. The Chairman said he placed very little value on the report. Mr Conwy Bell said that in 1882 Dr. Parsons gave the city a clean bill of health, and said the place was alright. Yet, despite the fact that so much money had been spent since, Dr. Fletcher took a different view. Dr. Lloyd Roberts said St. Asaph wanted a public scavenging scheme. Mr Lothian: Who wants it? Dr. Roberts: The town. Mr Lothian But who wants it? Dr. Roberts: I cannot name any individual, but the town.' wants such a thing. Mr Conwy Bell asked who wanted It at Rhudd- Ian? Mr W. S. Roberts wanted to know where the cowsheds complained of at Bodfari were ? He had been all round the district, but could not find any shed.?; in a dirty cond*t' I lc)r The Sanitary Stirvevor neptioned a fanii, whereupon Mr Roberts denied that things were not all right there. The sheds, he said, were paved and built on the latest principles. Mr Conwy Bell said that both medical gentle- men were looting trouble, which was very easy to find. They had practically ignored the good farm houses. It was decided to inform the Local Government Board that while the Council did not agree with the report, they would defer it for further con- sideration. Mr Conwy Bell said it was not a fair report of what was going on. The Chairman said he could have written as good a report himself, and he thought the opinion of members of the whole Council far out-weighed that of the two doctors.
THEFT OF POTATOES NEAB LLANDUDNO.
THEFT OF POTATOES NEAB LLANDUDNO. AN EX-SOLDIER SENT TO PRISON* At Llandudno Police Court on Saturday, be- fore Dr. Dalton and Mr J. Adey Wells, an ex- soldier named David Hughes, of Brynymor, Penrhynside, was charged with stealing half a sack of potatoe; from a field belonging to Bryneuryn Farm, near Colwyn Bay, on August 20th last. Elizabeth Jones, shopkeeper, Penrhynside. stated that the accused came to her shop on the day in question, and asked her to buy some potatoes, which he had in a sack. She told him that she did not want them, but he stated that he was wet through, and as it was getting late he would sell very cheap. She then bought the potatoes from him for ninepen-ce. The accused told her that he was selling the potatoes for Bryneuryn Farm. When P.C. Williams called she handed the sack and the potatoes to him. P.C. Williams (41) said that, on investigating the matter he found that the potatoes had been taken from a field belonging to Bryneuryn Farm by David Hughes and another man (not yet in custody). lie arrested David Hughes on Fri- day evening, ab»ut 8 o'clock, and charged him with stealing the poi-atocs, to which he replied that he went with the other man, the latter going to the field after the potatoes, and that he (defendant) sold them to Mrs Jones for nincpenee. William Cragg, Bryneuryn Farm, stat d that the necasod had worked for him on the farm in October last year. He did not give him or tibe other man permission to sell notatoes on his behalf. He identified the potatoes produced i,n court as "British Queens," which were the same as ho had planted in the field, and lie valued them at half a crown. Defendant, who pleaded guilty to the charge, said that it was the other man who got tihe potatoes from the field, and got him to sell them for him when he was drunk. The magistrates sentenced Huehes to a month, s imprisonment with hard labour.
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THISTLES AXD BARBED-IRON FEXCES, (To the Editor of the "Pioneer.") Kindly allow me to refer to a letter which ap- peared on tHe 13,h of August-cúudemniug the use of barbeJ-iron, Hd complaining about thistles not bein?y cut in t.ic time. Tiie iii*st iiiiiig iii?u Sl,r?icK P-te wiieti I I., our +i?enti was 'a-i it wa? not 4 farni,-i-; and l?ad no with titen. To liar(I an! fast rules upon far?ier!? siicti .1.? .-our coi-r(-I),)lideiit w.ull b,? ii?,tliiiig less than I"ii li)ld lati(I close to a t(mii, and my experience is that there arc- two classes of people that even barbed-wire will not prevent from going over hedges and making gaps in ihem. The consequence is the expense to repair damage thus caused, and the straying of cattle and sheep, the latter being very often altogether. The two elat ses I refer to are the high-way uamps, and those to whom, 1 pin afraid, our friend belongs. As a matter of fact, those who object to the use of barbed- wire mostly are ihotse who are the worst for making izaps in liedg,?. I wizh I cotild convince m?7 friend ti!a, lie 11 1 't c-(-d I,, hi-e trc)k ,blfd to virite tf, the i,re,s, fc-,r?r., bf,d)- ?zh,?uld know that tli?, farni?r l?inirelf is the heaviest sufferer on account of barb-wire and thistles. Surely if lie thought it were possible to do without the former he would by all means do so. I would advise our friend to teach the people that the land is not to be a play-ground for visitors, nor to be encroached upon. but for the livelihood and maintenance of the people. As for the thistles, the iariner knows well enough that it would be to his own advantage to krep or cut them down before thev seed, and I believe every farmer doeis his hest to do so, but I should like to know to what extent our friend would cut them down during harm t pres- sure, if he himself were a farmer.—J am, pt< R. HUGHES. St. Asaph.
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